So people think Skyward sword actually looks that bad? (56k users beware)

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#251 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Or maybe it's the fact it doesn't look great. It might have looked great 7 years ago, but today it looks like an outdated POS.KHAndAnime
That all depends on what one prefers graphically. And all the beloved "graphics kings" of this gen are going to be "outdated POS" soon enough. The cool thing is that Skyward Sword, unlike those games, will still look good in 5, 10 and 25 years.

:roll: System Wars never ceases to stupefy me.

Why? He made a pretty valid statement.
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#252 nutcrackr
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Does SS not have normal maps? The textures are so flat. I don't like how it looks at all.
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#253 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

I messed that up. What I meant was it plays in 480i

trollop_scat

It's 480p actually.

Which is 600p too few for a modern console game and 1120p too few for a modern PC game. Thanks for helping me prove my point, I thought I was surrounded by Sheep for a second there...

That's total bee ess. Most console games don't even run in 720p...

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#254 PernicioEnigma
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] That all depends on what one prefers graphically. And all the beloved "graphics kings" of this gen are going to be "outdated POS" soon enough. The cool thing is that Skyward Sword, unlike those games, will still look good in 5, 10 and 25 years.

:roll: System Wars never ceases to stupefy me.

Why? He made a pretty valid statement.

It's kind of hard to argue because art is subjective, but I don't see what's so spectacular about Skyward swords graphics. Are bright colours all it takes to win over gamers in the artistic department?
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#255 lulmont
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I think the cel shading makes Wind Waker hold up better then Twilight Princess was playing both not to long ago and TP looks worse then WW at least on my 46inch tv.

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#256 nitekids2004
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] :roll: System Wars never ceases to stupefy me.PernicioEnigma
Why? He made a pretty valid statement.

It's kind of hard to argue because art is subjective, but I don't see what's so spectacular about Skyward swords graphics. Are bright colours all it takes to win over gamers in the artistic department?

Well, a logical explanation is cartoony-graphics and 2-D games ages better than 3-D ones. Of course, graphics in itself is improving at a diminishing returns. 10, 15, 20 years from now, I doubt Crysis, Uncharted and GeoW would look like crap.

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#257 SRTtoZ
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Yikes...it actually looks worse than I thought.

If you asked me what the picture in the clouds was, I would have said Skies of Arcadia.

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#258 dercoo
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Artistically, yeah I still think it looks bad

TP"gritty" and WW cell looked brilliant and beautiful

SS art looks like a luk warm mix of the 2:?

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#259 theuncharted34
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Firstly, The WW and TP shots are horrible quality, and the SS shots are bullshots. So...

And secondly, the character's in SS look flat out ugly. *Looks at Debbie* :|

And why do Link's lips look like he got hit by the cole train?

I think the Art style is gorgeous, like the color's and the environments, but those models are just abominations. Kinda balances out to just decent.

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#260 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Skyword Sword's graphics aren't steller but they're sure as Hell not last-gen.

trollop_scat

You're right, last gen had games like God of War and Uncharted. SS is more like two gens ago, but games like Eternal Darkness for GC still look better than SS.

Not only does SS's art style look like a Saturday morning cartoon, but its in Standard resolution! That's 4x3. I play games like Deus Ex in 25x16 on my PC.

SS looks aweful and I can't wait till it flops. The only reason to keep your Wii is to play old GC games and DL old NES games for nostalgia...

:lol: No. Eternal Darkness looks really blocky compared to Skyward Sword.

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#261 mmmwksil
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:lol: No. Eternal Darkness looks really blocky compared to Skyward Sword.

nintendoboy16

Still doesn't stop it from being one of the greatest horror games ever. ;)

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#262 goblaa
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I still think WW looks better.

TP was just vomit (graphics wise...gameplay was fine).

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#263 walkingdream
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It looks...erm horrible...

Don't take it to heart Zelda fans just saying what i see.

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#264 tubbyc
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I'm not sure if I'll be getting it but I think it looks nice. I find 3D games from last gen can still look beautiful even though they are technically dated, just like 2D 16-bit games can still look very pretty, for example Super Ghouls n Ghosts which I recently finished and had a lot of fun with. I'm so glad I'm not so hung up on the technical aspects of graphics to deprive myself of playing whatever classic I may want to play, or Xenoblade for the Wii which I'll get soon. I've been into some retro gaming recently and it's actually been a nice change. I also finished Chrono trigger recently and enjoyed it more than FFXIII. Higher tech graphics help but they're not essential.

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#265 Sgt_Crow
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First of all, neither Wind Waker nor Twilight Princess look as bad as on those screenshots. They actually both look great and Wind Waker still doesn't cease to amaze me in motion compared to current gen titles which are already boring to look at... Second, Skyward Sword will look great. Only angsty teens who are affraid of their cool friends verdict when they see they aren't playing grey and brown and bloody games think Skyward Sword's style is "ugly" or "kiddy". At least Skyward Sword looks different compared to 90% of the current gen games.
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#266 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Skyword Sword's graphics aren't steller but they're sure as Hell not last-gen.

nintendoboy16

You're right, last gen had games like God of War and Uncharted. SS is more like two gens ago, but games like Eternal Darkness for GC still look better than SS.

Not only does SS's art style look like a Saturday morning cartoon, but its in Standard resolution! That's 4x3. I play games like Deus Ex in 25x16 on my PC.

SS looks aweful and I can't wait till it flops. The only reason to keep your Wii is to play old GC games and DL old NES games for nostalgia...

:lol: No. Eternal Darkness looks really blocky compared to Skyward Sword.

Eternal Darkness is a master piece, One of the best games from the GC era. It plays better than alot of the crud which people praise this gen and lest gen. Characters look about right for the GC era so dont know why your coming out with "Looks blocky". as you are comparing a Wii game to a GC game.

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#267 tomarlyn
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It doesn't look any better than Wind Waker but I liked Wind Waker.
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#268 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

You're right, last gen had games like God of War and Uncharted. SS is more like two gens ago, but games like Eternal Darkness for GC still look better than SS.

Not only does SS's art style look like a Saturday morning cartoon, but its in Standard resolution! That's 4x3. I play games like Deus Ex in 25x16 on my PC.

SS looks aweful and I can't wait till it flops. The only reason to keep your Wii is to play old GC games and DL old NES games for nostalgia...

Dibdibdobdobo

:lol: No. Eternal Darkness looks really blocky compared to Skyward Sword.

Eternal Darkness is a master piece, One of the best games from the GC era. It plays better than alot of the crud which people praise this gen and lest gen. Characters look about right for the GC era so dont know why your coming out with "Looks blocky". as you are comparing a Wii game to a GC game.

Dude, I brought that up because the poster I quoted compared Eternal Darkness' graphics to Skyward Sword. :| And I never said Eternal Darkness didn't look good for 2002 standards, I said it looks more outdated than skyward Sword does.

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#269 hakanakumono
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I still think WW looks better.

TP was just vomit (graphics wise...gameplay was fine).

goblaa

TP was okay aside from the visual appearance looking like "American attempting to draw Anime."

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#270 drinkerofjuice
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I remember being very underwhelmed by the visuals when SS was first shown. It looks fine. But that's just it. Fine.
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#271 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Yet they still look dated. If a game doesn't both look great and play great chances are I won't be interested. Hard to miss something you have no interest in.mmmwksil

Why not keep an open mind instead?

While it is ideal to have an open mind, Haz, some people just won't ever be interested in everything offered. All we can do is agree to disagree and respect their preferences.

What if I don't do that?
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#272 LastRambo341
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Graphics definitely suck, but i am not getting it cause of the horrible Wiimote. Graphics suck on 360 and PS3 aswell.

Fizzman
*yawn* That is a pitiful excuse. Oh well, you go ahead and penalize yourself
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#273 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]He's right though, you made this thread all about how SS "looks". Why bother caring if SW posters think it "looks bad" or not?

Skreltch

Because when you start seeing posts comparing it to first gen ps2 and GC games, there really is something amiss :|

But it is a fact that Ninja Gaiden and Splinter cell had much much better graphics and that was last gen on the xbox.....facts are just facts.

Your facts are wrong. Its the complete opposite
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#274 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

And you have an avatar of a series that's been dead for years.

trollop_scat

RE 5 got the same score as Twilight Princess. RE 4 is considered a top 5 all-time console game. And the funniest part is that REmake, a GC game, looks better than Zelda SS, and scored higher than TP. Go look at some old screenshots if you think I'm lying.

When Skyward Sword scores another 10 for Wii, I'll be too busy playing it to come comment on these forums. When your series finally gets a decent game, please come back and see me.

ChubbyGuy40

The rumor is that RE 6 is going back to its horror beginings, so... late 2012? Hope so. And BTW, I've got you down as officially hyping Zelda SS at 10. Good luck with that...

Woah woah, don't think about it. Just because he is hyping it 10, doesn't mean its official
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#275 Chutebox
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Don't care. It's Zelda and I'm going to buy it and it's going to be awesome.

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#276 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

and fyi, the game runs at 16:9, not 4:3

trollop_scat

I messed that up. What I meant was it plays in 480i, or 704x480, or 7x4 for short. The important number is the 4. Todays PC games are made in 2560x1600, or 25x16 for short. The important number again being the 16. Modern games are thus 4 times sharper than last gen games that play at 7x4.

Long story short, Zelda SS is last gen. And it looks like a cartoon. And it has bad music...

The game is released this gen, therefore its current-gen ;) Yes, its cartoony. Better than your brown and grey shooters Music is awesome
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#277 zassimick  Moderator
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I need to get component cables or something for my Wii before Skyward Sword comes out, because as great as I think the game looks it will never be as sharp on my TV as it is in the screenshots you posted Shinobishyguy. :(

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#278 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

And you have an avatar of a series that's been dead for years.

trollop_scat

RE 5 got the same score as Twilight Princess. RE 4 is considered a top 5 all-time console game. And the funniest part is that REmake, a GC game, looks better than Zelda SS, and scored higher than TP. Go look at some old screenshots if you think I'm lying.

No it didn't. RE5 got 8.5 on all versions. Twilight Princess got 8.8 (Wii) and 8.9 (Gamecube).

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#279 Mr_BillGates
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I looks heavily downgraded from Twilight Princess and that one is done on the Gamecube.

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#280 El_Zo1212o
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First time I say it in action was the intro to the pre-tgs 3ds conference. I hated it the instant I saw Link was cel-shaded again. And I kept hating it all the way until he jumped. After seeing it in action with all the vibrant colors and watching how it moved, I was sold. Not sold enough to actually buy a Wii, but if I found myself in possession of one, I'd definately get my hands on the game.
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#281 parkurtommo
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Wow Twilight Princess looks a lot worse than I remember! :o