Sony block access to PSN for PSJAILBREAK users

The recently held maintainance was for a reason after all. Several reports from users the world over suggests that you can no longer access PSN if you have been foolish enough to use the PSJAILBREAK device.

Our sources can confirm that this is indeed true and Sony has blocked access to PSN for anyone with a hacked PS3. This was implemented during the recently concluded maintainance that PSN went through last night.

Do note that this will be in effect even if you DON'T update to the current firmware update. Sony has implemented a system which will detect your hacked PS3 as soon as you connect to PSN.

If you have been using the PSJ and can't access PSN yourselves, kindly let us know. You should have known better though, you got what you deserved!

http://www.psbeyond.com/news/Sony-block-access-to-PSN-for-PSJAILBREAK-users.18916.html

You mean they get to play those overpriced retail and psn games for free?

and there are alternatives for MP besides PSN.

So no harm done for people who have a Jailbreaked PS3.

UnrealDelusion

Are you trying to justify stealing someone else's work?

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

You mean they get to play those overpriced retail and psn games for free?

and there are alternatives for MP besides PSN.

So no harm done for people who have a Jailbreaked PS3.

waltefmoney

Are you trying to justify stealing someone else's work?

You're not stealing anything.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

You mean they get to play those overpriced retail and psn games for free?

and there are alternatives for MP besides PSN.

So no harm done for people who have a Jailbreaked PS3.

UnrealDelusion

Are you trying to justify stealing someone else's work?

You're not stealing anything.

Yeah, you're just downloading it for free without them knowing instead of paying for it like they intended to.

Are there links?

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

You're not stealing anything.

UnrealDelusion

Yeah, you're just downloading it for free without them knowing instead of paying for it like they intended to.

copyright infrigment is not the same as stealing. Learn the difference.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Yeah, you're just downloading it for free without them knowing instead of paying for it like they intended to.

mfp16

copyright infrigment is not the same as stealing. Learn the difference.

Yes there is to steal something you have to take an actual object (in this case the game) away from the owner (developers/publishers). So explain how you do take the object away from the owner without actually touching it.

So yes there is a difference.

As long as it doesnt affect legit users in a negative way, they can try to prevent pirates how much they want. Problem though is that I am fairly certain pirates will try to find a way to get behind this new block.

[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

copyright infrigment is not the same as stealing. Learn the difference.

UnrealDelusion

Yes there is to steal something you have to take an actual object (in this case the game) away from the owner (developers/publishers). So explain how you do take the object away from the owner without actually touching it.

So yes there is a difference.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="mfp16"] There isn't one...mfp16

Yes there is to steal something you have to take an actual object (in this case the game) away from the owner (developers/publishers). So explain how you do take the object away from the owner without actually touching it.

So yes there is a difference.

You can't steal something without taking it away from someone.

The crime you are commiting is copyright infrigment which is not the same as stealing. Simple as that.

And I'm not downloading anything since I don't own a PS3 but I can understand people who do it with those games which last you a few hours and having to pay $60-70 for them.

UnrealDelusion

Gaming is a hobby, no one is obligating them to play video games.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

And I'm not downloading anything since I don't own a PS3 but I can understand people who do it with those games which last you a few hours and having to pay $60-70 for them.

waltefmoney

Gaming is a hobby, no one is obligating them to play video games.

Well in that case the publishers can't expect to be obligated to receive money for the games they make.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

And I'm not downloading anything since I don't own a PS3 but I can understand people who do it with those games which last you a few hours and having to pay $60-70 for them.

UnrealDelusion

Gaming is a hobby, no one is obligating them to play video games.

Well in that case the publishers can't expect to be obligated to receive money for the games they make.

Yes they can, they've invested money and time.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

And I'm not downloading anything since I don't own a PS3 but I can understand people who do it with those games which last you a few hours and having to pay $60-70 for them.

UnrealDelusion

Gaming is a hobby, no one is obligating them to play video games.

Well in that case the publishers can't expect to be obligated to receive money for the games they make.

What? Making games isn't a hobby, it's a business.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

You're not stealing anything.

UnrealDelusion

Yeah, you're just downloading it for free without them knowing instead of paying for it like they intended to.

copyright infrigment is not the same as stealing. Learn the difference.

And I'm not downloading anything since I don't own a PS3 but I can understand people who do it with those games which last you a few hours and having to pay $60-70 for them.

your using it without license which IS stealin

And tbh i would watch what your saying bout this and how you say it cause your trying to justify it and that dont go down to welll with the mods.

[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Yes there is to steal something you have to take an actual object (in this case the game) away from the owner (developers/publishers). So explain how you do take the object away from the owner without actually touching it.

So yes there is a difference.

UnrealDelusion

You can't steal something without taking it away from someone.

The crime you are commiting is copyright infrigment which is not the same as stealing. Simple as that.

Stop making up laws,

If you use someone's goods or services without compensating them for it, that's stealing. Whether it's a physical object or not is irrelevant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement

Next time do your homework if you don't know the difference.

firstly..no link... secondly.. i dont have a hacked ps3..and i cant access psn.. which means its just standard maintenance.. good day sir..campzor

linked

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement

Next time do your homework if you don't know the difference.

UnrealDelusion

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement

Next time do your homework if you don't know the difference.

Dahaka-UK

I'm not justifying it. Yes it is acrime but it is not stealing.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"] You can't steal something without taking it away from someone. The crime you are commiting is copyright infrigment which is not the same as stealing. Simple as that.FreshDimSum

Piracy has been around for more then 20 years for the games, music and movie industry.

Guess what they are still around and making more money then ever so yes it's really hurting them :roll:

As for the bolded part an illegaly downloaded game doesn't equal a sale.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

your using it without license which IS stealin

And tbh i would watch what your saying bout this and how you say it cause your trying to justify it and that dont go down to welll with the mods.

razgriz_101

I'm not justifying anything just trying to educate you console kids on the difference between stealing and copyright infrigment.

Sorry mr high and mighty that i am a lesser being because i didnt know.

And im not a kidand i dont play on consoles all that much i tend to find myself outside more often and doing something called work just lucky todays my day off :)

But your attitude stinks more than PNF's...

So me being right and you being wrong is me having a stinking attidude? :lol:

Piracy has been around for more then 20 years for the games, music and movie industry.

Guess what they are still around and making more money then ever so yes it's really hurting them :roll:

As for the bolded part an illegaly downloaded game doesn't equal a sale.

UnrealDelusion

Just because they're still in business doesn't mean it's not hurting them. You see companies trying to combat piracy every day.

[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Yes there is to steal something you have to take an actual object (in this case the game) away from the owner (developers/publishers). So explain how you do take the object away from the owner without actually touching it.

So yes there is a difference.

UnrealDelusion

You can't steal something without taking it away from someone.

The crime you are commiting is copyright infrigment which is not the same as stealing. Simple as that.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

I'm not justifying anything just trying to educate you console kids on the difference between stealing and copyright infrigment.

UnrealDelusion

Sorry mr high and mighty that i am a lesser being because i didnt know.

And im not a kidand i dont play on consoles all that much i tend to find myself outside more often and doing something called work just lucky todays my day off :)

But your attitude stinks more than PNF's...

So me being right and you being wrong is me having a stinking attidude? :lol:

your tone trying to incinute by probably most likely my sig that i am a console kid and the way you post in retaliation is rather arrogant :) sorry if im speaking the truth but you have a really arrogant attitude and that is something i despise.

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement

Next time do your homework if you don't know the difference.

UnrealDelusion

I'm not justifying it. Yes it is acrime but it is not stealing.

Someone's actually defending piracy? Lol.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

copyright infrigment is not the same as stealing. Learn the difference.

And I'm not downloading anything since I don't own a PS3 but I can understand people who do it with those games which last you a few hours and having to pay $60-70 for them.

UnrealDelusion

your using it without license which IS stealin

And tbh i would watch what your saying bout this and how you say it cause your trying to justify it and that dont go down to welll with the mods.

I'm not justifying anything just trying to educate you console kids on the difference between stealing and copyright infrigment.

You are promoting piracy, insulting EVERYONE on these forums and thinking your King freaking Kahuna. Us "console kids" have PC's. PC is my main platform, and it's people like you that is killing the industry. The reason why ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PC DEV makes dumbed down games for consoles now is because your kind pirate games and take away they money they should have made. They spend millions and millions of dollars to make something that people would enjoy, and YOU take it illegal. Don't tell me you don't pirate because you'd be lying out your ass with the way you're trying to justify piracy.

[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

copyright infrigment is not the same as stealing. Learn the difference.

UnrealDelusion

Yes there is to steal something you have to take an actual object (in this case the game) away from the owner (developers/publishers). So explain how you do take the object away from the owner without actually touching it.

So yes there is a difference.

Going by that logic, if your boss doesn't pay you, he didn't steal anything from you, except intangible hours of work. So it's all good, it was just a contract infringement so it's not the same as stealing. All good, no losses there.

I'll risk the suspension for this.

zero_snake99

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="mfp16"] There isn't one...blitzcloud

Yes there is to steal something you have to take an actual object (in this case the game) away from the owner (developers/publishers). So explain how you do take the object away from the owner without actually touching it.

So yes there is a difference.

Going by that logic, if your boss doesn't pay you, he didn't steal anything from you, except intangible hours of work. So it's all good, it was just a contract infringement so it's not the same as stealing. All good, no losses there.

You're right the crime he commits isn't theft but breach of contract

As for the bolded part an illegaly downloaded game doesn't equal a sale.UnrealDelusion

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Yes there is to steal something you have to take an actual object (in this case the game) away from the owner (developers/publishers). So explain how you do take the object away from the owner without actually touching it.

So yes there is a difference.

UnrealDelusion

Going by that logic, if your boss doesn't pay you, he didn't steal anything from you, except intangible hours of work. So it's all good, it was just a contract infringement so it's not the same as stealing. All good, no losses there.

You're right the crime he commits isn't theft but breach of contract

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]As for the bolded part an illegaly downloaded game doesn't equal a sale.FreshDimSum

No you are still more wrong then anyone else in this thread. It''s not stealing it's copyright infrigment no matter how you try to spin it.

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]I'll risk the suspension for this.

shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Yes there is to steal something you have to take an actual object (in this case the game) away from the owner (developers/publishers). So explain how you do take the object away from the owner without actually touching it.

So yes there is a difference.

UnrealDelusion

Going by that logic, if your boss doesn't pay you, he didn't steal anything from you, except intangible hours of work. So it's all good, it was just a contract infringement so it's not the same as stealing. All good, no losses there.

You're right the crime he commits isn't theft but breach of contract

To the law, it is. But in moral terms if a boss doesn't pay his worker he's an exploiter and a disgraceful human being, as he got the work done, the hours were spent by the worker, and he doesn't want to pay. Same applies to piracy of games in my opinion. Although in my fair opinion the fact all games price averages to be the same is a nonsense, considering the differences in budgets and quality. The industry needs a price overhaul in my opinion. Many games should never be above 30€ due to the budget/quality of the final product. They plummet in price shortly after, so why not starting from there being a better choice for the one short of cash?

Lost planet 2, i got it for 21€ new two weeks after launch. Something's wrong with the industry for sure,but piracy doesn't help fighting any cause, it's just the case of the boss and the exploited worker, except this time the worker doesn't have any kind of syndicate to appeal and get his money.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

Going by that logic, if your boss doesn't pay you, he didn't steal anything from you, except intangible hours of work. So it's all good, it was just a contract infringement so it's not the same as stealing. All good, no losses there.

blitzcloud

You're right the crime he commits isn't theft but breach of contract

To the law, it is. But in moral terms if a boss doesn't pay his worker he's an exploiter and a disgraceful human being, as he got the work done, the hours were spent by the worker, and he doesn't want to pay. Same applies to piracy of games in my opinion. Although in my fair opinion the fact all games price averages to be the same is a nonsense, considering the differences in budgets and quality. The industry needs a price overhaul in my opinion. Many games should never be above 30€ due to the budget/quality of the final product. They plummet in price shortly after, so why not starting from there being a better choice for the one short of cash?

Lost planet 2, i got it for 21€ new two weeks after launch. Something's wrong with the industry for sure,but piracy doesn't help fighting any cause, it's just the case of the boss and the exploited worker, except this time the worker doesn't have any kind of syndicate to appeal and get his money.

And in court the law applies not your moral opinions on something.

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]Dude, don't get so worked up over a level 5 whose probably just an old bandodger anyway.

UnrealDelusion

Well enjoy your work being stolen from you :P

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

You're right the crime he commits isn't theft but breach of contract

UnrealDelusion

To the law, it is. But in moral terms if a boss doesn't pay his worker he's an exploiter and a disgraceful human being, as he got the work done, the hours were spent by the worker, and he doesn't want to pay. Same applies to piracy of games in my opinion. Although in my fair opinion the fact all games price averages to be the same is a nonsense, considering the differences in budgets and quality. The industry needs a price overhaul in my opinion. Many games should never be above 30€ due to the budget/quality of the final product. They plummet in price shortly after, so why not starting from there being a better choice for the one short of cash?

Lost planet 2, i got it for 21€ new two weeks after launch. Something's wrong with the industry for sure,but piracy doesn't help fighting any cause, it's just the case of the boss and the exploited worker, except this time the worker doesn't have any kind of syndicate to appeal and get his money.

And in court the law applies not your moral opinions on something.

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

You're right the crime he commits isn't theft but breach of contract

UnrealDelusion

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And in court the law applies not your moral opinions on something.

Can I say that law is not going well with the times? I mean, it's kind of... outdated at this point. In a near future it will mean the same in the eyes of law. Right now it's just a legal hole because it needs to be updated.

Although that will be when digital downloads are all over the place. RIght now the hosted ISO files can perfectly mean a backup copy because you dont have the means to create one yourself, or the **** quality of the DVD they stamped the data on and sold you with the price of quality gold got a few scratches and wont read, etc.

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]I'm glad you just admit it's stealing. /threadUnrealDelusion

I'm not admitting it's stealing since i already posted a link which proved it isn't stealing. Just because your puny console gamer mind can't grasp the difference doesn't mean there isn't one.

This thread is seriously getting out of hand.