Sony has had three AAAe's the last 2 months, more than X1 has had in its entire life cycle

See, thats part of the problem.

False equivalency.

"On both sides" just isnt accurate.

That implies that "lemmings", "sheep", or "hermits" go to the same level of trolling, insulting, bashing, personal attacking as PS3/4 fanboys have over the past 6 years.

Seriously, just google it.

Read what they did to Adam Sessler.

What youtube comments are like.

Why do you think most youtube reviewers have videos SPECIFICALLY addressing Sony fanboy comments or attitudes toward reviews they have posted?

It is NOT the same and you know it.

Or maybe you dont because you havent been around long enough.

Whatever, but pretending "well everybody does it" is simply false.

@navyguy21: Xbox and PS fanboys are basically the same.

The PC ones are usually a bit less dumb. And the Nintendo ones are all crazy, because any sane ones left long ago for an actual gaming platform.

@Xabiss: "I am not quoting shit as fact, so it is not my responsibility to show anything."

Yet I wasn't the one who brought up the 6.6 billion revenue and assumed it was only for xbone. I guess you selectively choose to believe your shit as facts while demanding what you're not capable of doing yourself genius.

See my above comment. They are not the same.

Sony FANS and Xbox FANS are the same.

Their fanboys are VASTLY different

@navyguy21: they all do it. Not saying thats a good thing, but pretending its one segment of fanboys is not accurate. This is something that transcends companies, there have been devs who have been threatened. Look at Zelda recently, all the Nintendo fans were having a conniption because Jim Sterling gave it a 7. Its a hazard of being on the internet in general

Ignoring that, what does this have to do with dakur?

Google it, its not something that is just on this board.

Finding anecdotal examples is fine, but the reality is much different

@bobrossperm: We'll have to disagree on Nioh. It didn't need massive ad campaigns because it fits right in with the now established and loved sub genre of difficult action rpg, Imo. Every gamer in my local stores were talking about it before release.

I didn't buy QB, SO, or HW2 because I'm an Xbox fan. I bought them because I was interested in playing them same as I bought TLG and the Order 1886.

I read he got threats, am I missing something?

But what even is your point about Nioh when relating to PS4 vs Xbox One sales? Are you suggesting that the same Souls fans that bought Nioh on PS4 would buy it on Xbox One if it was exclusive to that? Effectively making the sales similar on X1 (if Souls fans are the bulk of it's audience like you're suggesting)?

Whatever, all I'm saying is Xbox One needs new life blood in their roaster. Stuff that might actually grab peoples attention and get them to buy Xbox Ones. E3 might have some stuff to show, here's hoping.

He gave Killzone a 5/5.............and was attacked anyway for the content of review.

He then received death threats, stalking, fanboys confronting him at E3, doxxing, etc.

Same happened to MANY other journalists and gaming personalites, leading them to make videos or even disabling comments.

This not even mentioning the stuff with Gertsmann before AND after gamespot, the stuff Tom McShay went through for his The Last of Us review

Just google "PS3 fanboys" and read the articles, the gifs, the memes.

Google PS4 fanboys

Google Sony fanboys.

Im not saying this because i prefer one or the other. I ALWAYS buy all and play the games as they come.

This gen i happen to prefer the PS4 because it has better games.

Doesnt make reality any different.

The industry as a whole recognizes the issue and has commented on it.

The only group that disagrees are usually Sony fans, which is understandable

Nope, part of the problem is that since you have a beef with playstation fanboys you selectively perceive them as worse but that doesn't make them worse objectively, it's just you. It is a normal behavior from human beings to unconciously strenghten your prejudices.

@navyguy21: Funny how in a thread a couple of days ago I saw a mod and a couple of old time posters from SW say that xbone fanboys this gen have taken the crown from PS3 fanboys as the worst in the industry. Lol. Perceptions, perceptions.

I see that Sony fannies are still making love to the Xbox while pretending to care about their PS4. Maybe one day the PS4 will get the attention it deserves.

LOL This is some solid trolling.

I remember lemmings started being racist against the reviewer of Halo Wars 2 and posting pictures of her room and making fun of her.

This ^

Xbone is the worst Xbox ever.

Again, read my previous posts, which you seem to be ignoring.

You are confusing FAN with FANBOY.

I am a playstation fan. @SolidTy is a playstation fan.

YOU and @tormentos are Sony fanboys.

I am NOT perceiving anything as worse

Again, google it.

Sony fans ARE NOT the same as you fanboys

Lmao great reply. Ive been watching SW for years since 2005 and this place has been at best playground full of ownage and insults..

What am I supposed to google? Am I supposed to look and count how many times Sony fanboys have harassed reviewers and compare them to the amount of times MS fanboys or Nintendo fanboys did it. According to you I'm a Sony fanboy yet I have never harassed anyone like that so am I suppose to count also the percentage of fanboys from each group that do stuff like that? How exactly you prove something like this? Everything is YOUR perception. There's no way you can prove one is worst than the other in any reasonable way.

Before you were a mod you used to routinely defend a piece of plastic known as the Xbox, stop pretending like you're above SW...whilst being ON SW, lol.

Again, read my above posts.

Research why the INDUSTRY regards Sony FANBOYS as the worst. Not Fans, FANBOYS.

@navyguy21: "Research why the INDUSTRY regards Sony FANBOYS as the worst."

Why don't you point me to this research yourself where the whole industry apparently decided that Sony fanboys are the worst? You're the one making the outrageous claim so you might as well provide the indisputable evidence. I mean if it's such a huge consensus it should be easy to link here to where this consensus was reached.

@navyguy21: Ok I found this article from some random person that belongs to the video game industry and he makes a list of the worst fanboy groups and he didn't mention Sony fanboys so apparently it's not a consensus.

http://cogconnected.com/feature/the-top-4-worst-fanboy-groups-in-gaming/

So if it's not a consensus, what is it? How can "the industry" as a whole decide who's worse if there's no spokesman for the whole industry?

@navyguy21: Nah, they're the same, you're just butthurt for some reason.

You guys are the worst. You guys are posting threads every week trashing xbox one. If an xbox fan posts something here its usually news. Then you guys come in and trash that news.

Don't yell at him, he will go into to full meltdown and thats bad for everyone.

Well you're on SW and the xbone is doing pathetic this gen. When the PS3 was doing bad last gen, Sony fanboys also received shit. If you can't handle the heat maybe you should stay in your safe space and pretend everyone agrees with you and that the xbone is not complete shit. Maybe whine to M$ so that they give you ammo to counterattack because right now they're leaving you lems empty-handed.

I'm not pissed off and I'm a manticore cow. I don't blindly bash the PS or Nin consoles for no reason unlike you. You have 2897 post and I bet 2890 are nothing other than bashing of a MS console. You bash MS consoles in threads that have nothing to do with it. I bet you lay in bed thinking how much you hate MS and their consoles. It's actually pathetic and sad to see so much hate coming from a so called gamer but what I've learned from cows are they're not actually gamers. Just sad, lonely, pathetic attention seeking losers.

Fanboy wars,that's entertaining

Oh please man for you trolling is saying anything bad about the xbox brand,you are not a sony fan you are not a neutral poster in any way,in fact you are one of the worst and most blind fanboys on this board.

When you actually can come to terms with the fanboy inside you and actually admit that you are a MS ass kisser then you can begin to point fingers all fanboys are bad in my books,yeah that include cows lemmings hermits and sheeps.

Mmmm i see so Dead rising 4 is a game but world of final fantasy isn't? Gears is a game but Dragon Quest builders isn't? Exclusive is a matter of perspective aren't you one of those hypocrites claiming the PS4 has no exclusives? Yet now you claim the xbox one was getting exclusive after exclusive?

When was this on 2006? Because,Gears,FH3,DR4 are not exclusive in any way you look at them.

Thank god you are now a lemming right? Hahahhaa

If you are playing more your xbox one is your taste the problem not the PS4 not trying hard enough. :)

I admit, my presence here is but a mere sliver of what it used to be back in 2005-2010. *looks at post count, ugh* Unsurprisingly, one had a lot more time while in high school and college to spend your time playing video games, enjoying rivalries, and getting involved in tournaments/online communities/etc.

It's been sometime since I've seen that fantasy though; interesting to see the PS fans are still harboring the feels.

Oh no! I guess that all these great games that I've been playing on the Xbox One mean nothing now. How can I possibly go on?

/sarcasm

For me personally, the thing that forever cemented Sony fanboys as being the worst and made me become utterly disgusted with that group more than any other is after Rise of the Tomb Raider was announced as an exclusive for Xbox and Sony fanboys then sent death threats to the developers. That is taking things too far and I've never seen behavior like that from Xbox and Nintendo fanboys when Playstation gets a game that they don't. I thankfully don't recall hearing about any death threats a few months later when Street Fighter V was announced as coming to PS4 but not Xbox.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.

Luckily, that hasn't really been in the news as much as it was. I think a few cases made a mountain out of a mole hill; still embarrassing that gamers stooped so low. Considering how hard the law has came down onto those who are "swatting" others, I doubt we'll see very many cases in the future (if any).

It's one thing to argue about numerical values attached to a video game, but to actively contact Law Enforcement to prank/get back at someone ... there's no words that can explain such mantra.

WTF?

Why would i need to be butthurt when i can play any game i want.................except for Breath of the Wild because i dont have a Switch yet?

I dont need to be jealous of any game or system.

If i want a game, i buy it. Simple.

Even if i DIDNT own a system, i would bash a game simply because it isnt on the system i own, or bash a game i havent played, or belittle fans of a system, etc.

There is a difference

OMG you just said the words MOST LIKELY, you can't do that shit. When Dakur wrote the original post he wrote it as fact. Now you come and say most likely the case. When you are stating facts you need to provide evidence of what you are stating is fact if it is not well known and you can never use the words most likely, possibly, maybe, and other shit like that.

@Xabiss: Okay, then here are the facts, as they are, as we have them- Sony's gaming division made more money than Microsoft's gaming division.

Yes, that is for sure a fact that can be proven. :) And good for them! I really have enjoyed my Pro since buying it and have enjoyed most of the exclusives that have been released. I am still trying to figure out how in the hell Uncharted 4 got a 10. Fun game, but I have played much better games. I would give Nioh or Horizon a 10 before Uncharted 4 it feels more like an 8 right now.

I do feel like Microsoft and Sony numbers do prove that both gaming divisions are doing great and they are both making lots of money which is great for the industry! I hope with Nintendo releasing the Switch there numbers will start to grow now. Would love to see Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo all in the top 5!

I can agree with all of that (including Uncharted 4 being overrated- it's not even the best Uncharted game!)

I don't think anyone needs you coming to their rescue. You can resume your X1 smear campaign since that seems to be your agenda since coming back

Well he just agreed to my previous statement that both Sony and Microsoft gaming divisions are both making lots of money and that is good for the industry. So he is not all in smear campaign mode. :P

He has his moments but for the most part his agenda has been one of smear and not of the PS4 or WiiU/Switch variety.

It's been a horrible gen for lems, easily their worst yet. Sad thing is that it's probably not gonna get better. I don't see Sea of Piss or Crackhead 3 getting AAA. And yet somehow lems think playing mediocre games like these in 4K will attract buyers lol.

World of Final Fantasy? A multiplatform game? Dragon Quest Builders? A multiplatform game?

What are you talking about?

As a manticore I enjoy the games on all the systems. How about you?