Sony is not the CHAMP this gen, they're the CHUMP.... the AWFUL truth.

Well that information wasn't that awful. I thought you were going to say that Sony was going to stop supporting the PS or something. I can deal with that stuff. I guess you as an established economist will tell us that Sony is a failing company due to a slow start which the company anticipated? Gangstah-Fresh

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"]Well that information wasn't that awful. I thought you were going to say that Sony was going to stop supporting the PS or something. I can deal with that stuff. I guess you as an established economist will tell us that Sony is a failing company due to a slow start which the company anticipated? lionsnakes

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"][QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"]Well that information wasn't that awful. I thought you were going to say that Sony was going to stop supporting the PS or something. I can deal with that stuff. I guess you as an established economist will tell us that Sony is a failing company due to a slow start which the company anticipated? clone01

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="lionsnakes"]lol I love how people try to act like Sony planned to fail like this. Do you think Sony anticipated being in last place after nearly three years on the market? lionsnakes

i feel like you're jumping to a lot of different argument to support your original post.

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"][QUOTE="clone01"] he did nothing like that. and sony isn't close to failing.clone01

i feel like you're jumping to a lot of different argument to support your original post.

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="lionsnakes"]lol I love how people try to act like Sony planned to fail like this. Do you think Sony anticipated being in last place after nearly three years on the market? lionsnakes

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[QUOTE="lionsnakes"]So you're avoiding the last argument you got proven wrong in and your jumping to this one? what was you're last argument. How is losing billions of dollars and most of your marketshare not failing in your opinion?lionsnakes

i feel like you're jumping to a lot of different argument to support your original post.

Funny.... I don't remember the PS2 losing billions of dollars three years into its lifecycle, being in last place, and having such underwhelming selling first party software. lionsnakes

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"]Funny.... I don't remember the PS2 losing billions of dollars three years into its lifecycle, being in last place, and having such underwhelming selling first party software. clone01

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="lionsnakes"]Funny.... I don't remember the PS2 losing billions of dollars three years into its lifecycle, being in last place, and having such underwhelming selling first party software. lionsnakes

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"][QUOTE="lionsnakes"]Funny.... I don't remember the PS2 losing billions of dollars three years into its lifecycle, being in last place, and having such underwhelming selling first party software. lionsnakes

All of these are suspicions. 1-5. Where are all of your trustworthy links?LOXO7

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]All of these are suspicions. 1-5. Where are all of your trustworthy links?lionsnakes

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"][QUOTE="LOXO7"]All of these are suspicions. 1-5. Where are all of your trustworthy links?Animal-Mother

"Things that Sony lost"

1. Market Share 2. Billions of dollars 3. Exclusive franchises 4. Lead in the Market

1.)PS2 136, PS3 23, PSP 52 = Sony 211 million. Wii 50, DS 102 = Nintendo 152 million. 360 30 = MS 30 million. 2.) Does Sony openly give out that information? 3.) Wheres the list to tell if it is "nearlly all"? 4.) Does this have something to do with number one?

Let's look at all the things Sony has lost this gen. This is not opinion, it's fact. 1. Most of their marketshare: FACT 2. Billions of dollars: FACT 3. Nearly all of their third party exclusive franchises: FACT 4. Their place as the industry leader: FACT 5. Their lead in total AAA and AA reviewed games: FACT Let's face it, the only thing PS3 has going for it are Sony's first party titles, but the problem is 98% of the games on the console are multiplat, and for the most part they are inferior on the PS3. So basically 98% of your gaming on the PS3 is second rate. Even franchises like Metal Gear, which were thought to be exclusive to PS3 are coming to the 360, and sales of Sony's first party title sales have been underwhelming to say the least. Sony is a weak company at this point. They are losing money hand over fist. Even their waggle wand shown at E3 seemed like a joke, an afterthought cheap knockoff item coming as a last desperate effort from a company that has been brought to it's knees this generation by its peers. Proof that Sony no longer has the power to compete.lionsnakes

"Things that Sony lost"

1. Market Share 2. Billions of dollars 3. Exclusive franchises 4. Lead in the Market

1.)PS2 136, PS3 23, PSP 52 = Sony 211 million. Wii 50, DS 102 = Nintendo 152 million. 360 30 = MS 30 million. 2.) Does Sony openly give out that information? 3.) Wheres the list to tell if it is "nearlly all"? 4.) Does this have something to do with number one?

LOXO7

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"] Do you really need links? Or have you been living under a rock for the past three years? Let's review them again. 1. Most of their marketshare: FACT 2. Billions of dollars: FACT 3. Nearly all of their third party exclusive franchises: FACT 4. Their place as the industry leader: FACT 5. Their lead in total AAA and AA reviewed games: FACTlionsnakes

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"][QUOTE="lionsnakes"]So you're saying it's Sony's strategy to lose billions of dollars? Take off the fanboy goggles.Gangstah-Fresh

low level account - check

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Flambait - confirmed

DAZZER7

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

"Things that Sony lost"

1. Market Share 2. Billions of dollars 3. Exclusive franchises 4. Lead in the Market

1.)PS2 136, PS3 23, PSP 52 = Sony 211 million. Wii 50, DS 102 = Nintendo 152 million. 360 30 = MS 30 million. 2.) Does Sony openly give out that information? 3.) Wheres the list to tell if it is "nearlly all"? 4.) Does this have something to do with number one?

lionsnakes

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

low level account - check

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opinion based rant - check

Flambait - confirmed

hiryu3

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"][QUOTE="LOXO7"]

"Things that Sony lost"

1. Market Share 2. Billions of dollars 3. Exclusive franchises 4. Lead in the Market

1.)PS2 136, PS3 23, PSP 52 = Sony 211 million. Wii 50, DS 102 = Nintendo 152 million. 360 30 = MS 30 million. 2.) Does Sony openly give out that information? 3.) Wheres the list to tell if it is "nearlly all"? 4.) Does this have something to do with number one?

LOXO7

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] Did you read anything I have said? The lose of billions wasn't exclusively over the PS brand but also a new thing called the Global recession. I am not a fanboy, I will admit that Sony chose the wrong time to bring forth a more futuristic console compared to the competitors, but again, you have not read what I have said and will probably not read what I am saying. You have came into this thread with a biased predisposition towards a company for some reason. I don't think I can or am willing to change this. LOXO7

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[QUOTE="lionsnakes"] When someone calls you out you just ignore it bud? Gangstah-Fresh

:lol:This link says from last years profit of 369 billion to this years 98.9 loss. So thats still 270.1 profit this "gen" as in two years. So that 369 profit isn't actually profit you say? It was their money? hmm... I guess I need to educate myself some more.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/news/2009/05/14/Sony-Reports--98-9-Billion-Loss/p1

:lol:This link says from last years profit of 369 billion to this years 98.9 loss. So thats still 270.1 profit this "gen" as in two years. So that 369 profit isn't actually profit you say? It was their money? hmm... I guess I need to educate myself some more.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/news/2009/05/14/Sony-Reports--98-9-Billion-Loss/p1

LOXO7

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

:lol:This link says from last years profit of 369 billion to this years 98.9 loss. So thats still 270.1 profit this "gen" as in two years. So that 369 profit isn't actually profit you say? It was their money? hmm... I guess I need to educate myself some more.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/news/2009/05/14/Sony-Reports--98-9-Billion-Loss/p1

lionsnakes

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Uhh, what? It's n ot common knowledge, you have to post links to back up your claims. Other wise it's just mindless banter. I mean I'm not the one trying to prove something you are.lionsnakes

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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]So now you're blaming the recession? I thought before it was their 'strategy'? Do you realize that Sony's gaming division was even getting creamed in 2007 before the economic downturn?lionsnakes

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"][QUOTE="LOXO7"]

:lol:This link says from last years profit of 369 billion to this years 98.9 loss. So thats still 270.1 profit this "gen" as in two years. So that 369 profit isn't actually profit you say? It was their money? hmm... I guess I need to educate myself some more.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/news/2009/05/14/Sony-Reports--98-9-Billion-Loss/p1

LOXO7

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"] Nintendo isn't that large a company to get largely effected by the market. Trend markets are different then long term markets. Microsoft is losing money, hear about how many jobs were lost at microsoft? lionsnakes

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/22/technology/microsoft_jobs/index.htm?postversion=2009012209

http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2009/01/22/microsoftcuts.html

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/11/21/six-reasons-microsoft-will-continue-to-lose-market-share

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10148168-56.html

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95SB95O0&show_article=1

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=aS3gBx8o1pWM