Sony is not the CHAMP this gen, they're the CHUMP.... the AWFUL truth.

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#151 Gangstah-Fresh
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Wow, why do companies down size? Due to prosperity? http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/784/784045p1.html http://www.newrowley.com/2007/01/microsoft_continues_to_lose_mo.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-9993714-75.html
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#152 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"]Yeah next time make sure to differentiate between Sony's gaming division and the rest of the company, and PS2 and PS3 sales. lionsnakes

Why don't YOU do that in your first post?! And you don't have any links to Sony's gaming division eh, partner? For me so I don't make the that mistake again. lmao

You love owning yourself eh? :lol: http://today.reuters.com/investing/f...-SONY-GAME.XML http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/14/sony-reports-continued-loss-expects-games-division-to-remain-un/ http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3163963 http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=21206 http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/25/losses-in-sonys-games-division-double/

You see this contradicts your first post. Sony this "gen" is losing billions of dollars. The second link shows a nice graph for you to correct your statement. This gen started 06 for sony... Looks like there is more profits then losses. I may be wrong tho...(sarcastic)

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#153 lionsnakes
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[QUOTE="lionsnakes"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] Why don't YOU do that in your first post?! And you don't have any links to Sony's gaming division eh, partner? For me so I don't make the that mistake again. lmao

LOXO7

You love owning yourself eh? :lol: http://today.reuters.com/investing/f...-SONY-GAME.XML http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/14/sony-reports-continued-loss-expects-games-division-to-remain-un/ http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3163963 http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=21206 http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/25/losses-in-sonys-games-division-double/

You see this contradicts your first post. Sony this "gen" is losing billions of dollars. The second link shows a nice graph for you to correct your statement. This gen started 06 for sony... Looks like there is more profits then losses. I may be wrong tho...(sarcastic)

Their gaming division has lost every year since the PS3 was launched. In 2009 their losses have been so great that the entire Sony company is losing money, not just their gaming division. This doesnt contradict anything I said. You're grasping at straws.
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#154 Kokuro_Kun
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They could be doing better but i think people give them a harder time because the PS2 was so well off. This system just needs more time to get going being its most expensive and the recession here and in Japan.
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#155 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"] You love owning yourself eh? :lol: http://today.reuters.com/investing/f...-SONY-GAME.XML http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/14/sony-reports-continued-loss-expects-games-division-to-remain-un/ http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3163963 http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=21206 http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/25/losses-in-sonys-games-division-double/lionsnakes

You see this contradicts your first post. Sony this "gen" is losing billions of dollars. The second link shows a nice graph for you to correct your statement. This gen started 06 for sony... Looks like there is more profits then losses. I may be wrong tho...(sarcastic)

Their gaming division has lost every year since the PS3 was launched. In 2009 their losses have been so great that the entire Sony company is losing money, not just their gaming division. This doesnt contradict anything I said. You're grasping at straws.

There you said it for me thank you. Not billions of dollars.

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#156 Dr_Corndog
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It's great how 98% of the people in this topic don't even understand the TC's point.
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#157 rahul_rul210
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y when anyone wants to insult another conosle they need to make a new account
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#158 tigermario
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I agree.

PS3 is basically sitting in the toliet bowl this gen.

poor Sony :(

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#159 tigermario
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It's great how 98% of the people in this topic don't even understand the TC's point.Dr_Corndog
They do understand thepoint, they just try to avoid it like they try to avoid reality. PS3 is tanking.

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#160 expanded
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compared to the ps2, the ps3 isn't doing so well but compared to the one's it came out with it's still competing. Call my ps3 whatever you want I'm still enjoying the games it has :).
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#161 tigermario
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compared to the ps2, the ps3 isn't doing so well but compared to the one's it came out with it's still competing. Call my ps3 whatever you want I'm still enjoying the games it has :). expanded
If you call last place competing than yeah sure but I call it losing.

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#162 The_Brodeo
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The PS3 has amazing games, free online, blu-ray functionality, wi-fi out of the box and the most promising future. Why have any of you given this obvious troll 9 pages?

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#163 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]

You see, people said the same thing about Nintendo for two whole generations and look at them now.

Jamani
Casual.................?

Fanboy..................................?
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#165 tigermario
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The PS3 has amazing games, free online, blu-ray functionality, wi-fi out of the box and the most promising future. Why have any of you given this obvious troll 9 pages?

The_Brodeo

Nothing you said changes the fact that everything he said was true :|

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#166 The_Brodeo
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[QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

The PS3 has amazing games, free online, blu-ray functionality, wi-fi out of the box and the most promising future. Why have any of you given this obvious troll 9 pages?

tigermario

Nothing you said changes the fact that everything he said was true :|

Nothing he said changes how I feel about my PS3 8)

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#167 tigermario
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[QUOTE="tigermario"]

[QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

The PS3 has amazing games, free online, blu-ray functionality, wi-fi out of the box and the most promising future. Why have any of you given this obvious troll 9 pages?

The_Brodeo

Nothing you said changes the fact that everything he said was true :|

Nothing he said changes how I feel about my PS3 8)

Whagts that smell? lol oh its the stench of failure on the PS3

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#168 fourseamer4
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[QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

[QUOTE="tigermario"]Nothing you said changes the fact that everything he said was true :|

tigermario

Nothing he said changes how I feel about my PS3 8)

Whagts that smell? lol oh its the stench of failure on the PS3

You need medications.
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#169 shadowfox55
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This gen isn't even over, so Sony still currently are the champs. Take that Nintendo and Mircosoft.

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#170 The_Brodeo
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[QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

[QUOTE="tigermario"]Nothing you said changes the fact that everything he said was true :|

tigermario

Nothing he said changes how I feel about my PS3 8)

Whagts that smell? lol oh its the stench of failure on the PS3

I don't think you realise how much a fool you are coming off as. I am going to make this easy for you since it will be the only way you can process it. Do not buy a PS3 and do not worry how I spend my gaming money, got it?

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#171 beekayjay
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For coming out a year later, being 10 mill behind second place in total world wide sales is completely understandable and respectable. The only failure here was of the Sony executive team not knowing how to properly launch the product, not the product itself.
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#172 rogerjak
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I love the damage control :D

I love how they frenetically try to reassure themselves that they are on the winning team.

Srsly.... go play your so called exclusives in 360 while I play them in my PC.

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#173 hassan1989
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Dude, they have 3 platforms on the market. Combine them all and you get the market leader 8)

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#174 rgame1
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this thread is fact
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#175 double_heist
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People who keep saying PS3 is awful are very blind fanboys. :P
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#176 killerfist
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It's true that Sony lost a lot this gen. I can't argue that. Still, it's a superb system with lots of fun games. And you don't have to worry about XBL fees and System Failures (as much).
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#177 Floppy_Jim
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http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA&gid=2

^What's this? :o The PS3 has both more AAA and AAAA games than either the 360 or Wii? Goshdarnit, if only the damn console wasn't in third place then people would actually be able to enjoy them. We have the CHUMPS at Sony to thank for that.

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#178 Malta_1980
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People who keep saying PS3 is awful are very blind fanboys. :Pdouble_heist

yep.. andprobably dont own/afford one so they just bash it!!

In reality all systems have much to offer, it just depends on personal tastes in gaming..

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#179 princeofshapeir
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The PS3 has amazing games, free online, blu-ray functionality, wi-fi out of the box and the most promising future. Why have any of you given this obvious troll 9 pages?

The_Brodeo
The first thing you said is debatable, and the W-Fi and free online are on the Wii as well. And if I wanted a Blu-Ray player, I'd go out and buy one.
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#180 PS3_3DO
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If Natal is good you can beat MS is going to be #2 in north america.

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#181 PS3_3DO
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http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA&gid=2

^What's this? :o The PS3 has both more AAA and AAAA games than either the 360 or Wii? Goshdarnit, if only the damn console wasn't in third place then people would actually be able to enjoy them. We have the CHUMPS at Sony to thank for that.

Floppy_Jim

You know GTA 4 is AAAA and is better on the 360. ;)

The 360 has more AA games than the PS3.

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#182 jsmoke03
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA&gid=2

^What's this? :o The PS3 has both more AAA and AAAA games than either the 360 or Wii? Goshdarnit, if only the damn console wasn't in third place then people would actually be able to enjoy them. We have the CHUMPS at Sony to thank for that.

PS3_3DO

You know GTA 4 is AAAA and is better on the 360. ;)

The 360 has more AA games than the PS3.

gta 4 is multi plat....im pretty sure were talking exclusives here and yes 360 has more AA games as in physical number. 360 has like 200 more games or something like that...percentage wise however, ps3 has a better library with 30% of their games scored AA-AAA while 360 has 20% of its library scoring AA-AAA. you know what that means....360 also has more shovelware....
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#183 Jfisch93
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Mr. Ps1 and Ps2 would like a word with you.

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#184 DAZZER7
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[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"]Everything I said was a fact. You have no argument to refute it so you're resorting to personal attacks against me because you can't take issue with anything I said because it's all true. Let's face it.lionsnakes

I am not refuting your facts lol...is that really hard to miss?

I am pointing out your facts are obvious...is that hard to miss aswell?

I am also questioning the purpose of your thread based on your lack of credibility...is that difficult to understand?

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I would like you to tell me where I have attacked you personally though lol

If I have listed facts that you cannot refute, how does my credibility even come into question? You said in your first post that I gave an opinion based rant but that couldn't be further from the truth as all I stated were facts. Seems to me like you're just grasping at straws.

You don't gain credibility by stating the very obvious. Ok fair enough, I simply saw your opening post as yet another rant by a low post/level troll. That was a bit harsh of me to judge you so quickly and for that I apologise.

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#185 shawn7324
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Sony are chumps, their console is awful, I can't stand it, look at how much money they have lost, Sony is pathetic, & I'm just another extremely cool guy.

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#186 clembo1990
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Ok I don't care about sales, now why should I care about your post?
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#187 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="lionsnakes"][QUOTE="LOXO7"]

You see this contradicts your first post. Sony this "gen" is losing billions of dollars. The second link shows a nice graph for you to correct your statement. This gen started 06 for sony... Looks like there is more profits then losses. I may be wrong tho...(sarcastic)

Their gaming division has lost every year since the PS3 was launched. In 2009 their losses have been so great that the entire Sony company is losing money, not just their gaming division. This doesnt contradict anything I said. You're grasping at straws.

There you said it for me thank you. Not billions of dollars.

This was funny. Lox07, you need to giveup before owning yourself again. Sony lost money as a whole company, and a major part was from their gaming division. FACT.
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#188 zytox
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[QUOTE="Mainframe52"]

[QUOTE="Eternal_Sleeper"]

WTF?

dragonfly110

Hahaha... So what if it's a Vaio PC??? Does if count for MS and Sony?? Give me a break with this thread in general and statments like the one quoted above specifically

facepalm, you people are trying to make me out as a biased fanboy, this is not the case, I was trying to make a point that the PSPs sales should not be counted along with PS3s success as it is a different console, and since the PC has almost always been called...you know what theres no point, I am also done with this thread.

I think you are a biased fanboy. (=
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#189 Malta_1980
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well been having a blast playing games on this so called CHUMP of a company (Sony) since the PS1 days... currently playing many great titles (most of them exclusives) on both PS3 & PSP...

Look forward to the PS4 & PSP2 :)

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#190 LosDaddie
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Let's look at all the things Sony has lost this gen. This is not opinion, it's fact. 1. Most of their marketshare: FACT 2. Billions of dollars: FACT 3. Nearly all of their third party exclusive franchises: FACT 4. Their place as the industry leader: FACT 5. Their lead in total AAA and AA reviewed games: FACT Let's face it, the only thing PS3 has going for it are Sony's first party titles, but the problem is 98% of the games on the console are multiplat, and for the most part they are inferior on the PS3. So basically 98% of your gaming on the PS3 is second rate. Even franchises like Metal Gear, which were thought to be exclusive to PS3 are coming to the 360, and sales of Sony's first party title sales have been underwhelming to say the least. Sony is a weak company at this point. They are losing money hand over fist. Even their waggle wand shown at E3 seemed like a joke, an afterthought cheap knockoff item coming as a last desperate effort from a company that has been brought to it's knees this generation by its peers. Proof that Sony no longer has the power to compete.lionsnakes

Well Done!!

Well said. :)

The Fall of Sony has been a sight to see this gen.

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#191 blank33
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We're only about a quarter of the way through this generation.

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#192 clone01
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[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"] Nintendo isn't that large a company to get largely effected by the market. Trend markets are different then long term markets. Microsoft is losing money, hear about how many jobs were lost at microsoft? lionsnakes
No Microsoft is not losing money. I'd ask you for a link to back up that they are but you wont be able to provide it because your wrong.

its not losing money now, but the gaming division was losing money for quite some time: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6154809.html
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#193 shawn7324
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[QUOTE="lionsnakes"][QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"] Nintendo isn't that large a company to get largely effected by the market. Trend markets are different then long term markets. Microsoft is losing money, hear about how many jobs were lost at microsoft? clone01
No Microsoft is not losing money. I'd ask you for a link to back up that they are but you wont be able to provide it because your wrong.

its not losing money now, but the gaming division was losing money for quite some time: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6154809.html

Have they already recovered from the hit they took & still are taking with RROD?
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#194 clone01
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA&gid=2

^What's this? :o The PS3 has both more AAA and AAAA games than either the 360 or Wii? Goshdarnit, if only the damn console wasn't in third place then people would actually be able to enjoy them. We have the CHUMPS at Sony to thank for that.

Oh, Dr. Flop, you know your logic is useless here. ;)
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#195 anarchist4eva
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In order to prove everything this kid says is wrong, one needs to be able to read a quarterly financial or annual report from these companies. Fact is both Sony & MS are losing money at rediculous levels. The shareholders will have the ultimate say of who wins in the end. It's called globalism. However, that is beyond 6th grade math I'm affraid.
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#196 daveg1
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shhh youl make the fanboys cry with all that truth...
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#197 Limp_Laky
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[QUOTE="lionsnakes"]Let's look at all the things Sony has lost this gen. This is not opinion, it's fact. 1. Most of their marketshare: FACT 2. Billions of dollars: FACT 3. Nearly all of their third party exclusive franchises: FACT 4. Their place as the industry leader: FACT 5. Their lead in total AAA and AA reviewed games: FACT Let's face it, the only thing PS3 has going for it are Sony's first party titles, but the problem is 98% of the games on the console are multiplat, and for the most part they are inferior on the PS3. So basically 98% of your gaming on the PS3 is second rate. Even franchises like Metal Gear, which were thought to be exclusive to PS3 are coming to the 360, and sales of Sony's first party title sales have been underwhelming to say the least. Sony is a weak company at this point. They are losing money hand over fist. Even their waggle wand shown at E3 seemed like a joke, an afterthought cheap knockoff item coming as a last desperate effort from a company that has been brought to it's knees this generation by its peers. Proof that Sony no longer has the power to compete.

lol I'm just gonna go with the ps3 is now selling more and more and if you look at it on a per year basis they are outselling the 360 o.O Also an article on this site said that ps3 has the most high rated 9.0 or above games in the market based off of a sampling of a few ratings websites. Dont get me wrong I love the xbox 360 I'd just do some research first before you rant.
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#198 Floppy_Jim
Member since 2007 • 25933 Posts

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA&gid=2

^What's this? :o The PS3 has both more AAA and AAAA games than either the 360 or Wii? Goshdarnit, if only the damn console wasn't in third place then people would actually be able to enjoy them. We have the CHUMPS at Sony to thank for that.

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Oh, Dr. Flop, you know your logic is useless here. ;)

You're right, I don't know why I still come here :x

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#199 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="Limp_Laky"][QUOTE="lionsnakes"]Let's look at all the things Sony has lost this gen. This is not opinion, it's fact. 1. Most of their marketshare: FACT 2. Billions of dollars: FACT 3. Nearly all of their third party exclusive franchises: FACT 4. Their place as the industry leader: FACT 5. Their lead in total AAA and AA reviewed games: FACT Let's face it, the only thing PS3 has going for it are Sony's first party titles, but the problem is 98% of the games on the console are multiplat, and for the most part they are inferior on the PS3. So basically 98% of your gaming on the PS3 is second rate. Even franchises like Metal Gear, which were thought to be exclusive to PS3 are coming to the 360, and sales of Sony's first party title sales have been underwhelming to say the least. Sony is a weak company at this point. They are losing money hand over fist. Even their waggle wand shown at E3 seemed like a joke, an afterthought cheap knockoff item coming as a last desperate effort from a company that has been brought to it's knees this generation by its peers. Proof that Sony no longer has the power to compete.

lol I'm just gonna go with the ps3 is now selling more and more and if you look at it on a per year basis they are outselling the 360 o.O Also an article on this site said that ps3 has the most high rated 9.0 or above games in the market based off of a sampling of a few ratings websites. Dont get me wrong I love the xbox 360 I'd just do some research first before you rant.

You're missing the point. Microsoft has gained alot of marketshare this generation while Sony has lost big time. MS is on the way up and Sony is on the way down.
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#200 fourseamer4
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Sony has made some mistakes this gen. and a lot of them were costly, but it doesn't take away the quality of the PS3 and PSP. PS3 is selling well for a console that launched at $599 and is currently the highest priced console. No one could predict what the economy would be like in three years once the PS3 launched.