Sony: We Didn't Expect Bloodborne To Do This Well

@skelly34: Not the games, fans, systems fault you bought a PS4 for one game. That was your first mistake. Why buy a system for 1 game? Thats a mighty big investment. If you are an xbone gamer you should get some of the multiplats on ps4 they 99% of the time player better (and to a much bigger degree than 360-ps3)... Maybe then you will feel good about your purchase and not bitch to the world and make up lies about bloodborne.

Read the first 100 posts, and at least 30-40 of them are nyadc making a dumbass out of himself. Amazing.

I have above, Yukas, Limit Breaker and EpicNameBro have ALL said that this game is disappointing. Those were my three primary youtubers I would check out for Dark Souls related stuff. Go look it up.

I have accounts on Gamefaqs and Neogaf too. The people who used to defend against my DKSII BM have pretty much agreed with me that BB isn't worth defending and have joined in on the hate train. I at least found DKSII PvP to be redeeming, BB lacks redeeming qualities.

Purely derogatory of course, it's not actually DMC, but it's been turned into a shallow, almost button-mashing spam fest.

@Midnightshade29:

Yeah.. that was pretty dumb of me. Especially when that game actually sucks.

I am a PC gamer. Multiplats are better 100% of the time on PC. If not, hook up Xbone Controller

It's a great game, hopefully Sony and From team up again.

This is bullshit. Sony knew perfectly well. The game doesn't have strong sales legs and there's nothing much upcoming so they have to promote it.

@skelly34: I watch Rurikhan for souls stuff. I have heard of EpicNameBro but don't watch his stuff.

I have to disagree calling it a button mashing spamfest as doing that will drain your stamina then you can't attack or dodge and enemies will make you pay for it bosses more so. I really enjoy the souls games as well as Bloodborne but whatever different strokes for different folks.

It's still a niche game... But I imagine lots of gamers are starving for something decent to come out on the consoles. Its the only console game I've bought in over two years... My xbox and ps4 were kind of crap purchases.

What? Don't like my point of view because I'm not blindly praising Sony and the PS4?

Should have expected based on how good the previous games were.

@Midnightshade29 First time you've seen one of my posts? I'm not butthurt, I own all last gen consoles, and at some point, will have all current as well. I don't know what 35 games you have that are not sports games, remakes/remasters, or downloadable indie titles, but I'm all ears if you can recommend some games.

@Vatusus I didn't say that, but nice attempt at a clever use of my line. Aside from the remasters, and the aforementioned games, what amazing titles have come to the PS4 that this entire board seems to be unaware of? And Sony isn't the only guilty console manufacturer of this, I'll rant on Microsoft and Nintendo too. It's a piss poor gen if you ask me, and the worst since the gap between Atari 2600 and the NES.

1st. you =/= "this entire board"

2nd. Dragon Age Inquisition, Assassin's Creed Black Flag, AC Unity, Watch Dogs, Destiny, literally dozens of highly regarded indie titles, Mortal Kombat, Battlefield 4, Dying Light, Shadow of Mordor, Far Cry 4, etc, etc... and also a couple of well rated exclusives such as infamous SS and Killzone SF. Personal preferences aside there is PLENTY to play on the PS4, so dont come with the "no games to play" excuse. People dont only play exclusives ya know? wich was my original point

@charizard1605: Most are

I'm alright with that delineation, then. But this argument that something like, say, Bloodborne is niche, and almost every other game released is not, which is used to downplay this game's success, is what really pisses me off.

Well it is kind of funny when lems and cows bash each others libraries considering they're nearly identical.

Whew there is a steady stream of butthurt over this game. Almost all of the "naysayers" are just terrible at concealing it.

Concealing what?

Are we still calling the Souls franchise Niche? That time is over. The past year or so Souls has become a big thing. DS2 last year, Bloodborne this year- there are several franchise iterations selling millions.

Also, you guys gotta get gud.

I definitely wouldn't call Bloodborne a niche game. That would go to something like Onechanbara Z2: Chaos. At the same time, BB is not in the same class as Halo, Pokemon, and Assassins Creed. (in terms of sales not critical acclaim)

It's middle tier. It's that simple. Can't believe people are still arguing over this....

I meant "entire board" as in the PS4 having "no games" is a highly discussed topic.

1. Dragon Age, Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Destiny, Watch Dogs, Battlefield 4, Shadow of Mordor, Far Cry 4, "etc, etc" - All available on my PS3. So aside from a graphical upgrade for most of these games (some you get a little bit extra something; modes, bonus content, etc.)

You are correct, there is plenty to play on PS4, if you skipped last gen... or you prefer the reasons listed in #1

People don't only play exclusives, great observation. Although I may be generalizing, someone who owns an X1 or PS4, more than likely owned one of, or both, of the previous MS and Sony consoles.

So in this case, "exclusives", not as in "Sony Exclusives", rather, as a "console exclusive" (not including PC), the PS4 and Xbox One for that matter have the better part of their library - the "good" games - available on the previous gen. That's not to say they won't get games, hell, Halo 5 and Uncharted 4 to name a few, maybe a God of War 4 reveal (wouldn't that be nice).

Until then, the investment into a next gen console is not necessary. "No games", as in, the "good" games that are available, came out on nearly every other machine.

Which... to tie it to my original post, may have contributed to the reason why Bloodborne sold better than expectations. Huge install base, and minimal competition for a purely next-gen experience.

If I have to be honest, didn't expect the game to be good but glad I was wrong..

That has nothing to do with the discussion here. You may play them on PS3 but its obvious by sales numbers most play them on new gen consoles (I am one of those). So, again, despite your personal experience the fact Bloodborne sold well had NOTHING to do with the "no games to play excuse" wich was the original point debated here.

@charizard1605: It's still niche. If there was not a glut on the PS4, it would not have sold that well.

Do people really believe there was a glut (props to you, never heard that word) on PS4? I mean, really?

I've gotta say, this is the first time I've seen it argued that there is an excessively abundant supply of games to buy for the PS4. Usually, people try to argue that there is a severe dearth of games available.

@asylumni: And they would be wrong. There is a shit load of good games for all systems

I don't think I'd go as far as "shit load", but there's definitely enough to enjoy and not regret the purchase.

@asylumni: Ya, true.

Woah you're actually full of shit if you think Bloodborne is even that much different from other Souls games to call it as bad as you say it is. A button mashing spamfest is also hyperbole crazy talk. I play Dark Souls very similar to the way I play Bloodborne, I don't know about you. Is there glaring issues? Yeah, I mean the builds are lacking, items and weapons are lacking in numbers. PvP is a chew. It's simply a smaller game than the other Souls games. But calling it too easy is null and void since the difficulty was never the reason Souls games were so good in the first place. On the grand scale, I found it difficult.

Boss fights were brilliant and their designs and attacks were also really cool. The progression in the single player was also well paced (albeit the farming was a drag at times). I also found the level design and atmosphere easily up there with Dark Souls and Demon's Souls. These are all redeeming qualities that you have either chosen to ignore in order to continue your online ''hate train'' as you yourself coined, or those factors were never what got you into Souls games in the first place.

You don't really have an argument for some shit other than "other 'souls vets' agree with me so I'm right". "Bloodborne lore is shitty cos other souls vets agree", implying that all souls vets are masters of literacy and writing and actually know what good lore is by definition. Other than these, I can agree with you that items and buids are lacking. And I don't feel the trick weapons are an excuse for such a little number of them. These are real issues and I'd be silly to disagree with what is essentially a fact. But when it comes to level design, combat, enemy design, boss design, atmosphere, it excels. And that's not to say there wasn't shitty parts to the single player game. Unseen Village was horrible and wasn't fun at all. I found myself running past the enemies because it was tedious and unrewarding to fight them, which is part of what makes Souls games so good. Chalice Dungeons are only good for the masochistic souls players who don't care that the actual levels are garbage and random generation does not suit the Souls mantra at all.

But I found the RPG elements it did have are good. Just not as varied or as robust. I find the traditional game design elements of the game excellent. And that matters more to me. Especially since the items it does have do a good amount to impact the gameplay. And your comparison to DMC is laughable. Even if it was ''simplified down'' to DMC levels, it would still be far from casual. DMC on harder difficulties is fkn hard and the combat is deep as ****. Deeper than Souls games actually, just not as tacticle (which Bloodborne still is just as much as any other Souls games, and you're wrong if you disagree).

I'd be a quivering vaginal hipster bitch, too if I had to miss out on this game. Luckily, I didn't. The asshurt and uninformed mystical levels of fuckery in this thread only prove what a crown jewel Bloodborne actually was.

Hopefully, Witcher 3 gives some of these XBinkie kids something to suck on for a while other than the obvious. The gamers are talking here.

@skelly34: Lol look at you.

How do you feel about the game rather than just taking other peoples opinions and projecting it on to yours.

I'm pretty sure there are so many players that are better than all those youtubers it's just they don't have a youtube account.

You glorifying people that can think like you and I as if what they say is and always will be true.

People experience games differently. That's a fact and you need to see that rather than being some weird troglodyte spitting out youtube channels.

Stay sunny bro.

Praise the Sun!

Oh SHIT! I totally self-owned myself. I meant "lull"!

Isn't this exactly what cows were saying last gen about no games on the 360 and what lems said about the PS3 for its first few years (and what everyone says about the Wii/WiiU :P )? The thing about SW is that its all cyclical and every little thing used to bash a platform has been used against the people who used it and by those complaining about its use.

I disagree it had NOTHING to do with it. Bloodborne is one of the few truly built-for-the-next-gen titles. It's not facing much competition in that specific regard.

I propose that this discussion has run it's course at this point.

You would think by this point things would change... lol.

I remember the first year of the 360 being abysmal, then Gears came out, and it was finally a next-gen experience. Except the last gen to this gen is a smaller leap thus far than the GCN/PS2/XBOX jump to the HD consoles.

PS3 was the same thing, then all these amazing titles came. IMO this gen has just been painfully slow in really getting started.

@acp_45:

Nice try, cow. I have given my opinion on the game throughout other Bloodborne threads.

it boils down to something like this: BB is a super dumbed-down souls game devised for the CoD generation and is just the same formulaic souls game except a lot shittier. Gameplay relies too heavily on level design and lore too heavily on grimdark lovecraftian themes. While all the games are very similar, dark and demons was robust and deep enough to set the ground for a long lasting, memorable ARPG, Bloodborne obviously lacks depth and intrigue, thus it will fizzle out and be forgotten, unlike its predecessors. Oh, forgot to mention the terrible PvP.

Review my earlier posts and you'll realize I only mentioned these tubers to show how universally disappointed souls fans are. That I am not alone in my (correct) opinion.

No shit I'm still praising the sun, you aren't? What r u casul? I think I've discovered one of these "CoD generation" noobies I was talking about.

@skelly34: Nice try ???

You clearly didn't even get what I was trying to tell you...

Cow ???

Me ?

Stop making a fool of yourself.

What does the CoD generation have to do with this. Do you really think From went and scattered a game for them.... ?
Your correct opinion is valid but the fact that you say that you are part of a hate train just show that you are probably forcing your opinion on more than one site. Are you going to give room to those who actually enjoyed the game ? Or are you going to let every person that enjoyed BloodBorne get victimised as part of the "Cod" generation.

What does me being a pro or casual have to do with the Cod Generation ?

You correlation skills are below what is expected of a human being.

Unless you are spitting out insults that little kids spit at each other when they were finally able to let CoD go.

@acp_45:

Do you really think From went and catered* a game for them.... ?

Yes. It's a fact. End.

this was all i needed to read, i wonder why ignorants write about stuff without having a clue.

@skelly34:

Then I'm ending this argument right here...

No point in continuing.

Truth hurts.

@acp_45:

I thought I already ended it.

i played bloodborne and thought it sucked. I also have no interest in the witcher. opinions man, sometimes people have different ones. doesn't make them a fanboy.

Will probably end up getting PS4 just because of this game.

You thought you ended it ?

I clearly gave an answer to your post stating that I wanted to end it....... Me not you.

Don't make life too easy. You can't decide to just chuck away logic.

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