sony: we finished 3rd this gen.. launch price was to blame

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#1 ionusX
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sony has admitted that they have finished 3rd this gen.. and they blame the high launch price of the system.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/sony-admits-ps3-price-was-a-factor-in-3rd-place-current-gen-finish/097791

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#2 finalstar2007
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So i guess this confirms the next playstation wont be priced too high. good new for me

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#3 Nengo_Flow
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I already knew the PS3 was going to finish in last place before I bought my PS3.... in 2008
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The thing is, if Sony tried to keep the launch price down, there wouldn't be Blu-ray. Our exclusives would have been different and inferior like the 360.

I expect the PS4 to be priced reasonably as Blu-ray have been around for a while, so the price for the drive won't be as high.

I spent the launch price, and I have to say it was worth it. It's one hell of a console!

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#5 SaltyMeatballs
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Yes, when PS3 launched it was £425, I remember I got a new Core 360 for £200, around £220 with Fight Night Round 3.

Sony made it easy, and once GTA IV was announced for 360 there was no reason to hold back.

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The thing is, if Sony tried to keep the launch price down, there wouldn't be Blu-ray. Our exclusives would have been different and inferior like the 360.

I expect the PS4 to be priced reasonably as Blu-ray have been around for a while, so the price for the drive won't be as high.

I spent the launch price, and I have to say it was worth it. It's one hell of a console!

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you paid 599 US Dollars for a PS3? lol damn bro, I feel sorry for you son
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#7 GamerwillzPS
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

The thing is, if Sony tried to keep the launch price down, there wouldn't be Blu-ray. Our exclusives would have been different and inferior like the 360.

I expect the PS4 to be priced reasonably as Blu-ray have been around for a while, so the price for the drive won't be as high.

I spent the launch price, and I have to say it was worth it. It's one hell of a console!

Nengo_Flow

you paid 599 US Dollars for a PS3? lol damn bro, I feel sorry for you son

I have no regrets.

Stop saying nonsense, and go and unscrew your PS3 out and see what's there. £425 is all there.

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that and they didnt have any good games for like 4 years
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#9 DaBrainz
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I agree with Sony. At that price they were getting into gaming PC territory.
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

The thing is, if Sony tried to keep the launch price down, there wouldn't be Blu-ray. Our exclusives would have been different and inferior like the 360.

I expect the PS4 to be priced reasonably as Blu-ray have been around for a while, so the price for the drive won't be as high.

I spent the launch price, and I have to say it was worth it. It's one hell of a console!

GamerwillzPS

you paid 599 US Dollars for a PS3? lol damn bro, I feel sorry for you son

I have no regrets.

Stop saying nonsense, and go and unscrew your PS3 out and see what's there. £425 is all there.

I bought mine for $400 and it still hurts my wallet to this day (mainly cuz I could use $400 right now, im broke b*tch!). Spending $600 for a video game console is a bit ridiculous to me really, especially one that had no games untill 08
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#11 gago-gago
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This seems like their death bed confession or last words or something, since it only took them until the end of the gen to admit it. I wonder when they're going to admit teh cell was a mistake. We'll see if they learned anything if they make a new console next gen.

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The thing is, if Sony tried to keep the launch price down, there wouldn't be Blu-ray. Our exclusives would have been different and inferior like the 360.

I expect the PS4 to be priced reasonably as Blu-ray have been around for a while, so the price for the drive won't be as high.

I spent the launch price, and I have to say it was worth it. It's one hell of a console!

GamerwillzPS
Once again you've proven your kool-aid drinking ability in droves Everything you ever write is just more Sony bullsh1t. BR is just a medium and has nothing to do with how the games turned out. Infact BR is hindered games which is why the games have to be installed before you can play. Man you're an idiot.
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#13 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

The thing is, if Sony tried to keep the launch price down, there wouldn't be Blu-ray. Our exclusives would have been different and inferior like the 360.

I expect the PS4 to be priced reasonably as Blu-ray have been around for a while, so the price for the drive won't be as high.

I spent the launch price, and I have to say it was worth it. It's one hell of a console!

Nengo_Flow

you paid 599 US Dollars for a PS3? lol damn bro, I feel sorry for you son

I paid $580 -_-

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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"] you paid 599 US Dollars for a PS3? lol damn bro, I feel sorry for you sonNengo_Flow

I have no regrets.

Stop saying nonsense, and go and unscrew your PS3 out and see what's there. £425 is all there.

I bought mine for $400 and it still hurts my wallet to this day (mainly cuz I could use $400 right now, im broke b*tch!). Spending $600 for a video game console is a bit ridiculous to me really, especially one that had no games untill 08

Well, gaming is my #1 hobby so it was worth spending all of that money. Why did I spend £425 for such a console? Simply because it's PlayStation. I knew that Sony will deliver, and they did. I have alot of faith in Sony.

PS4 will be a day 1 purchase no matter what, even the price.

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#15 kingtito
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The thing is, if Sony tried to keep the launch price down, there wouldn't be Blu-ray. Our exclusives would have been different and inferior like the 360.

I expect the PS4 to be priced reasonably as Blu-ray have been around for a while, so the price for the drive won't be as high.

I spent the launch price, and I have to say it was worth it. It's one hell of a console!

GamerwillzPS
Once again you've proven your kool-aid drinking ability in droves Everything you ever write is just more Sony bullsh1t. BR is just a medium and has nothing to do with how the games turned out. Infact BR is hindered games which is why the games have to be installed before you can play. Man you're an idiot.
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funny how its in last place and yet i use it more than my 360 and wii lol
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

The thing is, if Sony tried to keep the launch price down, there wouldn't be Blu-ray. Our exclusives would have been different and inferior like the 360.

I expect the PS4 to be priced reasonably as Blu-ray have been around for a while, so the price for the drive won't be as high.

I spent the launch price, and I have to say it was worth it. It's one hell of a console!

kingtito

Once again you've proven your kool-aid drinking ability in droves Everything you ever write is just more Sony bullsh1t. BR is just a medium and has nothing to do with how the games turned out. Infact BR is hindered games which is why the games have to be installed before you can play. Man you're an idiot.

Lol wut?

All PS3 exclusives exceeded the capacity that a DVD can hold. So get your facts right.

I know that BD's slow speed kind of sucks but it's necessary for this generation. Did you know that some 360 games come with multiple discs? What a failure.

BD in PS4 will be faster.

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#19 ionusX
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funny how its in last place and yet i use it more than my 360 and wii lolreaver-x
everything has been used more than msot ppl's wii. sh!t my old discman probably got used more

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funny how its in last place and yet i use it more than my 360 and wii lolreaver-x

Same here. I barely used my 360.

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#21 YearoftheSnake5
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Their $600 price tag certainly didn't make things easy for them, especially when the competition is offering products hundreds of dollars less.

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#22 Pug-Nasty
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I paid 600 for one and 900 for another because I was a little impatient waiting for it to come in the mail. I sent one of them to my brother.

At the time I had quite a bit of disposable cash, so it wasn't a big deal. I wouldn't spend that much now, being married and, generally, broker.

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Their $600 price tag certainly didn't make things easy for them, especially when the competition is offering products hundreds of dollars less.

YearoftheSnake5

And less quality.

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[QUOTE="reaver-x"]funny how its in last place and yet i use it more than my 360 and wii lolGamerwillzPS

Same here. I barely used my 360.

Exactly here too, i use my PS3 the most and i mean every single day hck even my new system the vita dosent get that much love.

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No sh!t,Sony.

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Lol wut?

All PS3 exclusives exceeded the capacity that a DVD can hold. So get your facts right.

I know that BD's slow speed kind of sucks but it's necessary for this generation. Did you know that some 360 games come with multiple discs? What a failure.

BD in PS4 will be faster.

GamerwillzPS
Wow Otacon, what times we live in, I sure am glad this is a blu-ray disk. Imagine if I had to lift my tubby sausage fingers 1 inch to change it. No, I'd much rather watch a 5 minute install screen every chapter so I can sit still and contemplate all the money I've wasted
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

The thing is, if Sony tried to keep the launch price down, there wouldn't be Blu-ray. Our exclusives would have been different and inferior like the 360.

I expect the PS4 to be priced reasonably as Blu-ray have been around for a while, so the price for the drive won't be as high.

I spent the launch price, and I have to say it was worth it. It's one hell of a console!

GamerwillzPS

Once again you've proven your kool-aid drinking ability in droves Everything you ever write is just more Sony bullsh1t. BR is just a medium and has nothing to do with how the games turned out. Infact BR is hindered games which is why the games have to be installed before you can play. Man you're an idiot.

Lol wut?

All PS3 exclusives exceeded the capacity that a DVD can hold. So get your facts right.

I know that BD's slow speed kind of sucks but it's necessary for this generation. Did you know that some 360 games come with multiple discs? What a failure.

BD in PS4 will be faster.

Did you know that most of the disc were filled up with audio for just about every language as well as uncompressed video? Do you know that games don't really take up that much space on a disc? Did you also know you could have gotten the exact same experience with any of those games if you had them on multiple DVDs just about all those games require an install to play? My guess is you didn't. You are blinded by Sony and the fact that you're an idiot.
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well they said it was a factor and they are certainly right. it is good to see sony admitting they got it wrong with the PS3. its important they learn from the mistakes they made...its the only way they will become more competative. too expensive for a console, no focus, badly designed, used too much as a trojan for other tech, no games of note for some time, poor launch line up and sony relied too much on the playstation brand to sell it....all these things really did the PS3 and sony no favours. some stuff like the loss of 3rd party exclusives and the massive success of the wii were really out of sonys control and, credit to them, they have done a good job building up first party studios and new IP. they havent hit that killer app yet but they have many titles that do some very solid numbers. itll be interesting to see what they do with the PS4.
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="kingtito"] Once again you've proven your kool-aid drinking ability in droves Everything you ever write is just more Sony bullsh1t. BR is just a medium and has nothing to do with how the games turned out. Infact BR is hindered games which is why the games have to be installed before you can play. Man you're an idiot. kingtito

Lol wut?

All PS3 exclusives exceeded the capacity that a DVD can hold. So get your facts right.

I know that BD's slow speed kind of sucks but it's necessary for this generation. Did you know that some 360 games come with multiple discs? What a failure.

BD in PS4 will be faster.

Did you know that most of the disc were filled up with audio for just about every language as well as uncompressed video? Do you know that games don't really take up that much space on a disc? Did you also know you could have gotten the exact same experience with any of those games if you had them on multiple DVDs just about all those games require an install to play? My guess is you didn't. You are blinded by Sony and the fact that you're an idiot.

Okay, go back to your Crapbox.

Make sure you don't use that disc tray as a coffee stand.

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#30 Click_Clock
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I'd like to admit I also paid $599 US DOLLARs and I have no regret over my purchase. The PlayStation 3 brought me hours of joy and laughter.

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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="reaver-x"]funny how its in last place and yet i use it more than my 360 and wii lolfinalstar2007

Same here. I barely used my 360.

Exactly here too, i use my PS3 the most and i mean every single day hck even my new system the vita dosent get that much love.

I don't even have a PS3, gave it away to my nephew as I didn't like the games, controller, or PSN.

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its number 1 in my house, all that matters

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funny how its in last place and yet i use it more than my 360 and wii lolreaver-x
This...in spades. :cool:
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#34 GamerwillzPS
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Same here. I barely used my 360.

MicrosoftRules

Exactly here too, i use my PS3 the most and i mean every single day hck even my new system the vita dosent get that much love.

I don't even have a PS3, gave it away to my nephew as I didn't like the games, controller, or PSN.

It's because you were wearing this when purchasing the PS3.

master_chief_costume_helmet5.jpg

So get that thing off and buy a PS3 again. I'm sure the story would be different.

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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Lol wut?

All PS3 exclusives exceeded the capacity that a DVD can hold. So get your facts right.

I know that BD's slow speed kind of sucks but it's necessary for this generation. Did you know that some 360 games come with multiple discs? What a failure.

BD in PS4 will be faster.

GamerwillzPS

Did you know that most of the disc were filled up with audio for just about every language as well as uncompressed video? Do you know that games don't really take up that much space on a disc? Did you also know you could have gotten the exact same experience with any of those games if you had them on multiple DVDs just about all those games require an install to play? My guess is you didn't. You are blinded by Sony and the fact that you're an idiot.

Okay, go back to your Crapbox.

Make sure you don't use that disc tray as a coffee stand.

But he is right tho dude..

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[QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Exactly here too, i use my PS3 the most and i mean every single day hck even my new system the vita dosent get that much love.

GamerwillzPS

I don't even have a PS3, gave it away to my nephew as I didn't like the games, controller, or PSN.

It's because you were wearing this when purchasing the PS3.

master_chief_costume_helmet5.jpg

So get that thing off and buy a PS3 again. I'm sure the story would be different.

I honestly didn't like the PS3, not everyone does.

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People been saying this since they announced the launch price. Was Sony arrogant or just stuck with the price after they spent way too much making it?
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

I don't even have a PS3, gave it away to my nephew as I didn't like the games, controller, or PSN.

MicrosoftRules

It's because you were wearing this when purchasing the PS3.

master_chief_costume_helmet5.jpg

So get that thing off and buy a PS3 again. I'm sure the story would be different.

I honestly didn't like the PS3, not everyone does.

Okay, fair enough.

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#39 MicrosoftRules
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People been saying this since they announced the launch price. Was Sony arrogant or just stuck with the price after they spent way too much making it?Bread_or_Decide

I'm guessing they were stuck with the price as they're currently losing money on every PS3 sold. They know that they should be selling it for more right now to make money, but they're selling it at a loss.

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#40 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Exactly here too, i use my PS3 the most and i mean every single day hck even my new system the vita dosent get that much love.

I don't even have a PS3, gave it away to my nephew as I didn't like the games, controller, or PSN.

It's because you were wearing this when purchasing the PS3.

master_chief_costume_helmet5.jpg

So get that thing off and buy a PS3 again. I'm sure the story would be different.

honestly, i wish i had that helmet instead of my ps3 :?
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]People been saying this since they announced the launch price. Was Sony arrogant or just stuck with the price after they spent way too much making it?MicrosoftRules

I'm guessing they were stuck with the price as they're currently losing money on every PS3 sold. They know that they should be selling it for more right now to make money, but they're selling it at a loss.

Currently? They have been making profit for awhile now. Again, how did this guy get level 7 in under 4 weeks?
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[QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]People been saying this since they announced the launch price. Was Sony arrogant or just stuck with the price after they spent way too much making it?Shockwave-DASH

I'm guessing they were stuck with the price as they're currently losing money on every PS3 sold. They know that they should be selling it for more right now to make money, but they're selling it at a loss.

Currently? They have been making profit for awhile now. Again, how did this guy get level 7 in under 4 weeks?

Since when? I heard that just last year they were losing money on every PS3 sold, not that it matters.

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

I'm guessing they were stuck with the price as they're currently losing money on every PS3 sold. They know that they should be selling it for more right now to make money, but they're selling it at a loss.

MicrosoftRules

Currently? They have been making profit for awhile now. Again, how did this guy get level 7 in under 4 weeks?

Since when? I heard that just last year they were losing money on every PS3 sold, not that it matters.

Since the Slim I think. Yes they've been making money from it the last few years.
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The launch price wasn´t the only issue,the lack of great games for at least two years was also a major problem.
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Launch price was the biggest catalyst, but they made many fumbles along the way to keep themselves down. They basically begged Ninty and MS to take their market share away. Its pretty amazing that the system turned out so good after such a horrible start.

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#46 Shockwave-DASH
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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

I'm guessing they were stuck with the price as they're currently losing money on every PS3 sold. They know that they should be selling it for more right now to make money, but they're selling it at a loss.

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Currently? They have been making profit for awhile now. Again, how did this guy get level 7 in under 4 weeks?

Since when? I heard that just last year they were losing money on every PS3 sold, not that it matters.

Where did you hear that? Anyway, it makes sense in the long run why PS3 is last. Microsoft has more exclusives and multiplats in more genre's appealing to more people than Sony. Sony fans think that everyone in the real world only play 7.0 and above which is not true. What alternative to NinteyNineNights or Crackdown does the PS3 have? Where are the Mech sims? Games like Kameo? They have nothing like Gears, and so people make themselves stupid and compare uncharted to it when they are not even trying to be the same thing (except Uncharted 1). Where are the strategy games? Where are the- you get what I am saying. This alone makes it so that if you were to get a 360 or S3 for the first time, you would pick the 360 because it had more variety and more games. On System Wars, games below 7.0 don't count, and in that regard the 360 still had more variety while not the quality, and a lot of those games are sequels.
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#47 tomarlyn
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Underpowered PS4 confirmed. I don't mind.
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#48 MicrosoftRules
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[QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Currently? They have been making profit for awhile now. Again, how did this guy get level 7 in under 4 weeks?Shockwave-DASH

Since when? I heard that just last year they were losing money on every PS3 sold, not that it matters.

Where did you hear that? Anyway, it makes sense in the long run why PS3 is last. Microsoft has more exclusives and multiplats in more genre's appealing to more people than Sony. Sony fans think that everyone in the real world only play 7.0 and above which is not true. What alternative to NinteyNineNights or Crackdown does the PS3 have? Where are the Mech sims? Games like Kameo? They have nothing like Gears, and so people make themselves stupid and compare uncharted to it when they are not even trying to be the same thing (except Uncharted 1). Where are the strategy games? Where are the- you get what I am saying. This alone makes it so that if you were to get a 360 or S3 for the first time, you would pick the 360 because it had more variety and more games. On System Wars, games below 7.0 don't count, and in that regard the 360 still had more variety while not the quality, and a lot of those games are sequels.

I probably heard it on this board somewhere. Oh well.

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And not one single person read the article. The title doesn't match AT ALL.

Another sensational title to get views. :|

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#50 MicrosoftRules
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[QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Currently? They have been making profit for awhile now. Again, how did this guy get level 7 in under 4 weeks?Bread_or_Decide

Since when? I heard that just last year they were losing money on every PS3 sold, not that it matters.

Since the Slim I think. Yes they've been making money from it the last few years.

Oh okay, so basically 2010 or somewhere in there?