Splinter Cell Conviction: the hype thread

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#151 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]So the other guy linked an actual poll with over 100 votes, you've linked some nebulous fud with no actual hard data. I'd say he is winning so far.DeadMagazines

Then is Conviction legtimately being hyped AA? :o

Both g ames were hyped AAA for a LONG TIME, and now polls show that they were hyped AA. And of course, because it's a poll it must be true!

Nah there's always an excuse with cows. Give it 10 seconds.

Just like your excuse with last rebellion right?
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#152 Mestitia
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[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

Can't wait to see this get AA and flop MGS > SC :D

Silverbond

You're excited at the idea of a game flopping?

Yes :D
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#153 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

Can't wait to see this get AA and flop MGS > SC :D

Mestitia

You're excited at the idea of a game flopping?

Yes :D

Why?

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#154 mgkennedy5
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Hhhhmmm... considering time spent and such I would say AAA, but I'm thinking it might score lower
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#155 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

Can't wait to see this get AA and flop MGS > SC :D

Silverbond

You're excited at the idea of a game flopping?

Lulz right, like you are above that. Everyone on SW enjoys flops + /popcorn, it's literally what makes this place worth reading. ;)
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#156 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

Can't wait to see this get AA and flop MGS > SC :D

Hahadouken

You're excited at the idea of a game flopping?

Lulz right, like you are above that. Everyone on SW enjoys flops + /popcorn, it's literally what makes this place worth reading. ;)

Maybe to you. But, I'm not you.

Anyways, you were above the idea of Heavy Rain flopping, weren't you?

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#157 Cloud567kar
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AA

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#158 DeadMagazines
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Just like your excuse with last rebellion right?

I made no excuse, it got a freaking 3.5 and deserved to be made public after people inflated their lineup lists with it.
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#159 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

You're excited at the idea of a game flopping?

Silverbond

Lulz right, like you are above that. Everyone on SW enjoys flops + /popcorn, it's literally what makes this place worth reading. ;)

Maybe to you. But, I'm not you.

Anyways, you were above the idea of Heavy Rain flopping, weren't you?

While it's pretty easy to be high-and-mighty when your profile is set to private, I don't have anything to hide. I've seen you bash games and consoles on 100 different occasions, you can claim you're above it but I don't agree. I was fine seeing Heavy Rain flop, but not if the poll was made after 20 reviews came out. Do you not see how this creates a really bad precedent?
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#161 Silverbond
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While it's pretty easy to be high-and-mighty when your profile is set to private, Hahadouken

lol, what point are you trying to make? BSO's profile, Floppy_Jim's profile, and even SolidTy's profile are set to private. 2 of the 3 are great posters.

I don't have anything to hide.Hahadouken

Cool. Me neither. *high five*

I've seen you bash games and consoles on 100 different occasions, you can claim you're above it but I don't agree.Hahadouken

Cool.

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#162 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Just like your excuse with last rebellion right?DeadMagazines
I made no excuse, it got a freaking 3.5 and deserved to be made public after people inflated their lineup lists with it.

But nobody hyped it. A few select people did. This has been hyped AAA for years now. No excuses though it'll score less. But yet a game nobody really cared about or hyped said for a select group it's ok to nail them. But when a big time game is hyped AAA and now is being switched to AA is a cow tacti. But yet you say people inflated list with last rebellion but yet couldn't find any threads. I mean was there even a hype thread.

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#163 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

Can't wait to see this get AA and flop MGS > SC :D

Hahadouken

You're excited at the idea of a game flopping?

Lulz right, like you are above that. Everyone on SW enjoys flops + /popcorn, it's literally what makes this place worth reading. ;)

I don't enjoy games flopping :?

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#164 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

You're excited at the idea of a game flopping?

lundy86_4

Lulz right, like you are above that. Everyone on SW enjoys flops + /popcorn, it's literally what makes this place worth reading. ;)

I don't enjoy games flopping :?

You secretly enjoy it.

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#165 Ninja-Bear
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I'm guessing half the people here didn't use the sticky cams, portable emps, emp grenades, flash bangs and frags right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyXRqdQQjfkFull Stealth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVXabrfeThQStealth but killing everyone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N3_rSmwCX0Playing it like a normal cover shooter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-jl252DrUkRun and Gun

I hate it when people say they've dumbed it down when there are clearly plenty of different ways to go through the game.

And for those who were saying non-lethal takedowns, what exactly were you expecting after you saw the huge amount of videos of conviction which started LAST E3. None of them had non-lethal takedowns. And like I showed in the first link, you can do full stealth. THERE IS EVEN A MODE ON CO-OP WHICH GIVES GAME OVER ONCE YOU ARE SPOTTED.

Arjdagr8
Your supposed 'full stealth' walk through has the player shooting the first three people he encounters. :|
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#166 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"] Lulz right, like you are above that. Everyone on SW enjoys flops + /popcorn, it's literally what makes this place worth reading. ;)Silverbond

I don't enjoy games flopping :?

You secretly enjoy it.

Dammit, you worked it out Silverbond :P

Realistically though, i'd prefer to enjoy a plethora of games rather than mock one or two for being a "flop".

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#167 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I don't enjoy games flopping :?

lundy86_4

You secretly enjoy it.

Dammit, you worked it out Silverbond :P

Realistically though, i'd prefer to enjoy a plethora of games rather than mock one or two for being a "flop".

Me too, but according to Haha we're just pretending. He knows more about us than we do.

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#168 KarateeeChop
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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]

I'm guessing half the people here didn't use the sticky cams, portable emps, emp grenades, flash bangs and frags right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyXRqdQQjfkFull Stealth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVXabrfeThQStealth but killing everyone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N3_rSmwCX0Playing it like a normal cover shooter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-jl252DrUkRun and Gun

I hate it when people say they've dumbed it down when there are clearly plenty of different ways to go through the game.

And for those who were saying non-lethal takedowns, what exactly were you expecting after you saw the huge amount of videos of conviction which started LAST E3. None of them had non-lethal takedowns. And like I showed in the first link, you can do full stealth. THERE IS EVEN A MODE ON CO-OP WHICH GIVES GAME OVER ONCE YOU ARE SPOTTED.

Ninja-Bear

Your supposed 'full stealth' walk through has the player shooting the first three people he encounters. :|

have you even played the demo? :|

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#169 Ninja-Bear
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have you even played the demo? :|

KarateeeChop

Yes. Four times. :|

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#170 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Bear"][QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]

I'm guessing half the people here didn't use the sticky cams, portable emps, emp grenades, flash bangs and frags right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyXRqdQQjfkFull Stealth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVXabrfeThQStealth but killing everyone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N3_rSmwCX0Playing it like a normal cover shooter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-jl252DrUkRun and Gun

I hate it when people say they've dumbed it down when there are clearly plenty of different ways to go through the game.

And for those who were saying non-lethal takedowns, what exactly were you expecting after you saw the huge amount of videos of conviction which started LAST E3. None of them had non-lethal takedowns. And like I showed in the first link, you can do full stealth. THERE IS EVEN A MODE ON CO-OP WHICH GIVES GAME OVER ONCE YOU ARE SPOTTED.

KarateeeChop

Your supposed 'full stealth' walk through has the player shooting the first three people he encounters. :|

have you even played the demo? :|

yeah and the first 3 people it has you beat thje living daylights out of
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#171 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

You secretly enjoy it.

Silverbond

Dammit, you worked it out Silverbond :P

Realistically though, i'd prefer to enjoy a plethora of games rather than mock one or two for being a "flop".

Me too, but according to Haha we're just pretending. He knows more about us than we do.

Lol, well you've been told by a random poster on the internet... Must be correct :|

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#172 SgtKevali
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I've played the demo like 50+ times. I'm hyping AAA, but it could very well get AA.

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#173 KarateeeChop
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

have you even played the demo? :|

Ninja-Bear

Yes. Four times. :|

right...

if you actually have played the demo you would know that the tutorial requires you to kill the first 3 guys. :|

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#175 Ninja-Bear
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if you actually have played the demo you would know that the tutorial requires you to kill the first 3 guys. :|

KarateeeChop

And much like i just said, that is not an example of 'full stealth' is it? :|

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#176 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Dammit, you worked it out Silverbond :P

Realistically though, i'd prefer to enjoy a plethora of games rather than mock one or two for being a "flop".

lundy86_4

Me too, but according to Haha we're just pretending. He knows more about us than we do.

Lol, well you've been told by a random poster on the internet... Must be correct :|

At first I was a little skeptical, but now I'm a believer.

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#178 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Me too, but according to Haha we're just pretending. He knows more about us than we do.

Silverbond

Lol, well you've been told by a random poster on the internet... Must be correct :|

At first I was a little skeptical, but now I'm a believer.

Way of the world my friend, way of the world. Internet posters generally know more about the person in question, than the person in question.

:o

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#179 SgtKevali
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Double Agent (360) got an 8.5 here, and that's arguable the worst Splinter Cell. I can't see this game getting sub AA.

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#180 Ninja-Bear
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Bear"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

if you actually have played the demo you would know that the tutorial requires you to kill the first 3 guys. :|

KarateeeChop

And much like i just said, that is not an example of 'full stealth' is it? :|

there's no way around the tutorial :|

are you sure you have played the demo? :lol:

It's not really that difficult to comprehend; you cannot counter-point someone complaining that the game isn't stealthy enough with a video in which the first three people MUST be shot dead, can you? Because that isn't full stealth, is it? Not that hard a point, really. Also, why would a person complain about the lack of stealth elements in a game they have not played? Common sense. :|
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#181 Giancar
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hype changed? anyways AA
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#182 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I don't enjoy games flopping :?

lundy86_4

You secretly enjoy it.

Dammit, you worked it out Silverbond :P

Realistically though, i'd prefer to enjoy a plethora of games rather than mock one or two for being a "flop".

Sure, but if faction A were in your face for 6 months about Game X being better than Final Fantasy XIII, and were completely rude, obnoxious jackasses about it, you would love seeing FFXIII get a 10 while Game X got a 5 and they had to eat humble pie. It's nature. I'm not saying I sit around praying for flops, but when a game that fanboys are in my face about, laughing at me over, under-performs, I love seeing them squirm.
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#183 Giancar
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But don't worry people it is multi, and it will en up for the PS3 too So everybody can play the disappointment. Happy now SW?
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#184 Mestitia
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[QUOTE="Mestitia"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

You're excited at the idea of a game flopping?

Silverbond

Yes :D

Why?

For teh lulz and epic threads full of damage control :D Plus I grew tired of hearing how much better SC was over MGS when in reality MGS is the greatest there ever was :D
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[QUOTE="Mestitia"] For teh lulz and epic threads full of damage control :D Plus I grew tired of hearing how much better SC was over MGS when in reality MGS is the greatest there ever was :D

Chaos Theory on the original xbox is a better stealth game than any Metal Gear Solid, including MGS4 on the vastly more powerful PS3.
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#186 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I still stand by my very early AAA prediction, I have that feeling it'll be way off but I have hope. heh. I love me some Splinter Cell.
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#187 SgtKevali
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There reason I'm hyping AAA is because GameSpot's previews seem to have been a little too positive.

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#188 Hahadouken
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Way of the world my friend, way of the world. Internet posters generally know more about the person in question, than the person in question.

:o

lundy86_4

Or I know his name and avatar and have seen him make a million statements that are contrary to the image both of you are trying to convey. Go ahead and speculate though, it clearly makes you better than me. ;)

Thanks lundy, I can stop tracking you now.

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#189 Mestitia
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Bear"][QUOTE="Mestitia"] For teh lulz and epic threads full of damage control :D Plus I grew tired of hearing how much better SC was over MGS when in reality MGS is the greatest there ever was :D

Chaos Theory on the original xbox is a better stealth game than any Metal Gear Solid, including MGS4 on the vastly more powerful PS3.

And tetris is a better puzzle game. MGS is a lot more then just stealth.
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#190 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Bear"][QUOTE="Mestitia"] For teh lulz and epic threads full of damage control :D Plus I grew tired of hearing how much better SC was over MGS when in reality MGS is the greatest there ever was :D

Chaos Theory on the original xbox is a better stealth game than any Metal Gear Solid, including MGS4 on the vastly more powerful PS3.

Not according to reviews, or sales, or general consensus among gamers, but to you I am sure it is. I think personally that CT is by far the worst of the first three Splinter Cells.
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[QUOTE="Mestitia"] And tetris is a better puzzle game. MGS is a lot more then just stealth.

That's exactly why they shouldn't be compared. The whole MGS vs Splinter Cell debate is just silly, because MGS isn't a stealth game.
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#192 Hahadouken
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I still stand by my very early AAA prediction, I have that feeling it'll be way off but I have hope. heh. I love me some Splinter Cell.Stevo_the_gamer
Stevo! Way to be a man! What's funny about all this is that this game could still very well be AAA. :P I'm not against the game, I never have been, but I'm against wishy-washy flip-floppers who want to have their cake and eat it too.
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Bear"][QUOTE="Mestitia"] For teh lulz and epic threads full of damage control :D Plus I grew tired of hearing how much better SC was over MGS when in reality MGS is the greatest there ever was :DHahadouken
Chaos Theory on the original xbox is a better stealth game than any Metal Gear Solid, including MGS4 on the vastly more powerful PS3.

Not according to reviews, or sales, or general consensus among gamers, but to you I am sure it is. I think personally that CT is by far the worst of the first three Splinter Cells.

1. they're both 94 on metacritics

2. sales = quality now?

3. where do you get your "general consensus"?

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#194 Ninja-Bear
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"] Not according to reviews, or sales, or general consensus among gamers, but to you I am sure it is. I think personally that CT is by far the worst of the first three Splinter Cells.

I'll quote my own post again for you: 'Chaos Theory is a better STEALTH game than any Metal Gear Solid....' And how you can say Chaos Theory is by far the worst is beyond me. The graphics were incredible for the time, it featured the best mission out of all three (the bank) and pretty much perfected the stealth formula. Then of course it had the incredible multiplayer.
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#195 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Bear"][QUOTE="Mestitia"] And tetris is a better puzzle game. MGS is a lot more then just stealth.

That's exactly why they shouldn't be compared. The whole MGS vs Splinter Cell debate is just silly, because MGS isn't a stealth game.

Except that you can stealth the entire game in MGS4. You cannot in Splinter Cell. Sounds more like a stealth game to me.
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#196 h575309
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[QUOTE="Mestitia"] And tetris is a better puzzle game. MGS is a lot more then just stealth.Ninja-Bear
That's exactly why they shouldn't be compared. The whole MGS vs Splinter Cell debate is just silly, because MGS isn't a stealth game.

MGS 1-3 focused on stealth alot, what are you talkin about?
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Bear"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"] Not according to reviews, or sales, or general consensus among gamers, but to you I am sure it is. I think personally that CT is by far the worst of the first three Splinter Cells.

I'll quote my own post again for you: 'Chaos Theory is a better STEALTH game than any Metal Gear Solid....' And how you can say Chaos Theory is by far the worst is beyond me. The graphics were incredible for the time, it featured the best mission out of all three (the bank) and pretty much perfected the stealth formula. Then of course it had the incredible multiplayer.

And again I disagree. MGS4 is a better STEALTH game than SC:CT, and I think the whole co-op/multiplayer thing in SCCT was an abortion. You don't have to agree with me. I thought the game was junk compared to SC and SCPT.
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#198 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I still stand by my very early AAA prediction, I have that feeling it'll be way off but I have hope. heh. I love me some Splinter Cell.Hahadouken
Stevo! Way to be a man! What's funny about all this is that this game could still very well be AAA. :P I'm not against the game, I never have been, but I'm against wishy-washy flip-floppers who want to have their cake and eat it too.

Aye, so far my last AAA predictions have been right ... though ME2 was a given, it was mostly Halo 3: ODST that had my eyes shifting. But third time's a charm! Eh? Well, alright then? I have no idea what you're talking about though. :?
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#199 Leo-Magic
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Im getting this game FOR SURE
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#200 KarateeeChop
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Bear"][QUOTE="Mestitia"] And tetris is a better puzzle game. MGS is a lot more then just stealth.Hahadouken
That's exactly why they shouldn't be compared. The whole MGS vs Splinter Cell debate is just silly, because MGS isn't a stealth game.

Except that you can stealth the entire game in MGS4. You cannot in Splinter Cell. Sounds more like a stealth game to me.

i stealthed through CT and the conviction demo (other than the intro tutorial). maybe you're not playing it right.