Switch owners of SW, time to get hype for Metroid Dread!!! Update: GS gives it an 8/10

You kinda sound frustrated that i am not being positive about yet another of your Nintendo titles. Get over it or don't visit a forum section called System Wars🤷‍♂️Nobodies fault you're soft (like most sheep, nothing new) and can't handle negativity. You ain't seeing cows crying about disruptive posting when sheep, lems and hermits are shitting on Sony exclusives. Its always you sheep that are crying.

@hardwenzen: I could not care less if you like a Nintendo game or not; but this has nothing to do with whether or not you like a Nintendo game: you are being disruptive and a spammer. Most crybaby cows end up getting banned, because that's how far they take their emotions.

Of course you care, that's been clear for a while now. You have been quoting me with your frustration for over a year. You cannot stand seeing negative comments about ANYTHING Nintendo related.

@hardwenzen: Now you are just making stuff up. I have sparred with you and NathanDrakeShill for being disruptive trolls in this site. NathanDrakeShill is now banned as a result, purely for being the disruptive poster he is. Talk about games and consoles you actually like instead of crapping over ones you don't even play and have no intention of playing. Changing your attitude and trajectory will help you out significantly.

@jaydan: I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone whore for so much attention as this clown does. It’s really quite hilariously sad. 😅

Better yet, maybe he should talk about games he has actually played. But yeah, he's just a troll talking shit for the sake of stirring crap up for sure.

Anyways, beat the first major boss.

So far I'm really enjoying the flow of the game. There's definitely a hook with great flow. I had to force myself to put down the game yesterday, because of other responsibilities I got going on in life.

So far though, it feels like I've been long-overdue for a new Metroid game, and this one is blissful so far.

I like some of the gameplay updates that increase her mobility, and from the first boss alone I can tell the game is gonna have good boss battles.

That is exactly what depth is. People will discover new routes, and new ways to traverse the map as time goes on. This Metroid game has not only depth, but also looks to have a fairly high skill ceiling, this game is meaty. And the game not being sprawling is an important part of that, as every piece needs to come together, it is not just how each room exists individually, but also how they exist alongside eachother.

I mentioned Gran Turismo, and Gran Turismo 7 isn't on the PoS5 yet. This goes beyond merely the PS5, what competitive viable games have Sony made? There is gran turismo, but what else is there? Either in serious competitive online play or speedrunning.

Nintendo has Metroid, Zelda, Mario that are very popular speedrunning games, and Pokemon and Smash with large competitive scenes (and I hear Splatoon is pretty large in Japan).

I’m a little over 2 hours in and really enjoying the game. Defeated 2 E.M.M.I.’s, the first boss, and in the midst of exploring Cataris. I never played Samus Returns but I’m really digging the combat especially the parry mechanic.

I find Kraid to be easier to beat than he was in super Metroid. Patience is the key but You *can* counter him too, I finally hit him with a counter and he almost instantly died. Anyone who "plays it safe" by avoiding counters is making life much harder for themselves, so throwing this tip to anyone who's having a difficult time with Kraid.

My biggest issue with Samus Returns was the lack of environment diversity. I actually love when Samus gets to explore different and varied environments. Also recycled boss battles is always a negative from me, and Samus Returns had mostly recycled boss battles.

From what I've seen so far, Metroid Dread has a lot more variety, and that alone makes this game a lot more promising.

The flow and pacing feels just right. Issues that I can run into with Metroidvanias, is when their design becomes too obtuse for its own good, and no seeming path forward, thus running back and forth for hours into dead ends until you figure it out, or look up a guide online.

So far I've experienced none of that with Metroid Dread. The game is always bringing me to new locations and I don't feel like the game stumps me too hard that I overstay my welcome in certain rooms. So far the world design and difficulty feels just right for a Metroid game and it's got a really good hook with always teasing something new.

@jaydan: Ah, ok. Yeah recycled environments and bosses can really drag a game down. Nice to hear that Dread won’t succumb to that.

Hmm, I was looking at some of the sequence breaks on Dread and I won't believe the devs didn't put them in there on purpose for people to find and explore. Yeah, this game is going to be big for speed running.

Edit: Nevermind, seeing some unique cinematics that ONLY happen if you sequence break 100% confirm the devs coded shortcuts into the game for people to find. Now I gotta play through Dread a third time.

This game plays and flows clumsily. Nothing flows or feel natural, it just one clumsy mechanic or level design to another.

Such as?

@davillain-: It’s a good tip. I’m practicing my counters now.

@eoten: Navigation of the world, the various combat mechanics, killing of EMMI and navigation mechanics.

How are they clunky? What makes them feel unnatural?

@eoten: Not sure what he’s taking about. It’s far from clunky. It’s very fluid.

Bullshit. If Dread is all that, then all games are janky mess that is basically unplayable.

@Pedro: I haven't had issues with the world or navigation myself. The game is labyrinth-like though because it is. The map itself is pretty dense when you start opening up the world, so the map is either useful or disorienting depending on how adept the player is to reading it. The flow has been pretty excellent so far myself. Part of the fun and what I expected and hoped for a Metroid game, is a world like this one, with layered progression when you gain new weapons and abilities.

I'm at my second major boss now and been getting beat for a few tries now. The game definitely has challenge, unlike other mainline Nintendo games.

I've never read such absurd and false criticism as that from any of the reviews, articles or players until now. @Pedro isn't exactly neutral when discussing the Switch to begin with either. He said the system would fail within a year when it first came out, and has consistently talked negative about every aspect of the system and its games.

Nobody here or anywhere thinks the game is perfection warmed over, but let's at least try to be intellectually honest about our complaints.

@shadyacshuns: Have to be a little easy on him. Switch has all these amazing games, meanwhile he’s stuck with FIFA, Madden, and CoD. It’s not easy being Pedro.

It's kinda odd that he rarely attempts to go after Xbox or PC hardware and games, but always attacks Sony and Nintendo--the Japanese companies. 🤔

The manner in which the controls are managed. It does not feel smooth or natural. Using the rocket is definitely the worst offender, L + R + Y to aim and shoot. 😑 There a moments where traversal just works and feel correct, other moments it is not. Combat is a hit or miss. Some encounters are solid others are just clumsy.

Firstly that statement is just stupid on so many levels.

I have played games that are labyrinth like but at least there was some semblance of direction. I don't need to know how to get somewhere but I should know where the game expects me to go, even if its a round about path (which is very common in games). Don't get me started on those hidden blocks that require the player to just random shoot for progression. There is core navigation to any game. This allows the player to progress naturally until their progression is hindered. This game relies on the map very very heavily. I am map searching and pathing way too often. I guess the reality that I have played other games that has done it better is hindering my experience.

As for the two bosses I have fought so far. 😖 Strong ideas and weak implementation. It doesn't build on the experiences that the player has engaged prior to the encounter. It just feels like, "here, boss fight". There are strong elements in the game but I it doesn't meld nicely as far as I am concerned. I wonder if would have felt the same way if I played Metroid Prime for the first time today? 🤔

Seems like you are more focused on me than discussing the game. I am enjoying your agitation from my comments. 😂

I never played a Madden game. Played FIFA once in my life. Played CoD single player for the first time in 8 years and had to stop because I didn't like. With that said, I am enjoying you being upset to the point that you are making conspiracy theories about my gaming habits. 😂

@Pedro: We've known for years man: you enjoy trolling and shit posting more than actually playing games.

@Pedro: Your complaints remind me of the complaints I had for Link's Awakening: obtuse world design choices for progression.

I have not personally felt that way with Metroid 5 so far. I did get that disoriented feeling when playing Hollow Knight, however.

I dunno, I feel like it's a design flaw a lot of Metroidvania's can come up to, and maybe it hasn't been a problem for me with this game because I'm familiar with a lot of the Metroid expectations now so when I walk into questionable rooms, I make a point to spray the room to find a breakable section. Some of the breakable sections have subtle clues to them that you can pick up on as well. I believe at some point you can get a visor capability to scan for them as well.

This game is no where close to the obtuseness of Link's Awakening.

I play many games like these and it is because I like games that focuses on exploration. Going into a room and spray attacking just feels pretty dumb to me. I prefer that the if the dev is hindering the players progression, that they take a route that requires a bit more thinking that random shooting of walls or spotting of a white pixel line to indicate that a block that is core for progression needs to be shot at. 🙃

Yet, I am here discussing a game that I am playing. 😂

@Pedro: To be honest, the spray attack technique I find myself doing not much in this game, only when I suspect a secret passage. I've been right a lot of times when my instinct goes off, and others not so much. I feel like this game has more balance and ques to give that instinct.

In other Metroid games l have resorted to that technique more as a means to the obtuteness of the design, but I feel like there's a lot more to pick up in Dread. I have not personally felt like I'm playing a certain way because I've expended all other recourses and I've gotten to a point of being stuck.

Like my original impression: I don't feel like I'm overstaying my welcome in any of the rooms. There's been some challenging ones, but not ones that kept me stuck for too long.

So far I feel like the game has the right balance of challenge and flow, personal to my experience so far.

@jaydan: Are you playing handheld or docked?

@Pedro: I started out playing in handheld mode, now I'm playing docked.

Jaydan The Disrupted.

If you're frustrated by me not sucky sucky everything Nintendo releases, learn to Block the person. Thank me later, and keep on praising 100% of everything Nintendo releases.

You can't block people on Gamespot forums. Oh god, do I wish I could.

You can. I just blocked you, then unblocked you because i want to see your cultist posts😁

If you did, you wouldn't be seeing my posts.

I unblocked you, as i've mentioned.

I would never block a sheep, or i wouldn't have anyone left to argue with. Lems are boring and not delusional enough.

Prove it!

lol... if ONLY we could block out the dumb asses here. I'd block all but like 10-15 posters here.

What is there to prove? You block the person and you won't see any notifications from said person.

@hardwenzen: So you're not gonna show how to block people on this forum? No? Then you're full of it. Because damn near anyone would've blocked me by now if I can respond to them.

@hardwenzen: Dude, stop derailing the thread. Come on!

Do like how sequence breaking is encouraged. Pretty cool reward for early bomb here.

lol dam, I asked my self too if I had bombs I wonder if I can go in there and yep this video answered my question.

@ConanTheStoner: Very cool.

People are figuring out all sorts of sequence breaks now. I've seen people get space jump early, grapple beam early, etc.

It's shaping up to be as free-form as Super Metroid.

Yup. For now, a lot of it seems baked in (which is cool), but will be interesting to see what kind of unintended breaks people dig up.

Three and a half hours in now. Just beat Kraid and that was pretty tense. Died a few times there but pretty fun fight. I’ve been playing docked with the Pro controller and have taken to the controls pretty well myself.