The arguments against a shared Xbox One and PC ecosystem are quite silly

Thanks for proving you're just a troll. Carry on troll

It's a big deal for people who haven't bought a X1, i was considering one, but now i will build another rig.

PC gives people flexibility to build what they want, but consoles still have a place. Having a console with set hardware in a neat box means it can fit into your entertainment system, whereas a mini ITX will need to be built for those who don't want a big tower next to the TV, and even then they tend to be cube shaped rather than console shaped.

If you want power, then PC is 100% the way to go, and with it getting Xbox games means it is a great place to be. Xbox still gets all the same games it isn't losing its exclusives; losing the exclusive status but not the game itself.

Both can exist alongside each other. I think the Xbox one is a great console and I'm glad I went with it. I have a gaming PC that has gotten a bit old at this point 460GTX and i5 2500k, but prefer consoles, so I think my next build if I bother will just be a silent HTPC.

More good games on PC, yup I have no problem with that.

I've been stumped for years as to why Microsoft wouldn't have a shared eco system between Xbox and Windows. they make far more money from windows and PC users than they ever have with Xbox. Hell their are sitting on some fantastic PC I.P's (Age of Empires and Close Combat spring immediately to mind) that they don't seem to want to do anything with.

Let me make it practical for you then. My brother has a gaming PC, technically I could play Quantum Break (if I was interested ). From that perspective, the X1 is a non-factor.

Another scenario, If I'm choosing between X1 and PS4, not only does PS4 have more exclusives and exciting games on the horizon, but it gets to keep most of them.

That's why I loved the PS2, thats why I love the PS4. Sure, it didn't matter if RE4 was on GC or other consoles but its also the many other games PS2 got to keep that increased its VALUE.

Congrats on deciding to build a new rig and supporting the Windows 10 and DirectX12 ecosystem!!. Quantum Break is going to look amazing on PC :-)

But for those people who don't have the money and/or the desire to game on PC, this news doesn't affect them one bit.. Gamers who only game on consoles are still going to buy an Xbox One if they want to play Quantum Break.. win/win

I didn't know Sony already gave up on yet another project so quickly, PlayStation TV, but they haven't gave up on PSNow just yet which is accessible on Bravia and Samsung TVs. They're still planning on offering PS4 games, when that happens it's going to be interesting.

How is the PC physical profile easier to fit in? They look really ugly, even HTPCs tend to be an 8"-11" cube shape with a window on the side. An Xbox/PS4 fits perfectly next to a cable box or a surround sound amplifier.

Steam boxs and similar cases look OK, but you are limited by what's inside either low profile, low watt hardware, water cooling (if it fits) or really loud fans. I'm sitting next a Haf X at the moment and it is the ugliest piece of equipment I own, but it is quiet and was easy to work with, just overkill.

@Antwan3K: Looking forward to it again, thought consoles was something i could get back into. Hell no, it is miserable.

I don't know how many times | have to say this but people don't buy consoles for the exclusives. If that were the case the exclusives would be selling well.

Yeah, they clearanced out the PSTV about 6 months ago, bought mine for $40, never opened it. I only wanted it to stream Vita & PSP games to my TV, not really interested in PSNow since I already own almost 50% of the games the service offers.

a few of my friends have PS4s. technically I can play any PS4 exclusive at their house.. Does that make the PS4 a non-factor for me?

If you're choosing between a Xbox One and PS4 but the games you want are only available for Xbox One and PC, then you'll have to buy an Xbox One to play those games.. Period.. Same thing applies if the games you want to play are only on PS4 and PC.. if you are only in the market for a console, you'll have to buy a PS4 to play those games.. PC isn't a part of the conversation is you're "choosing between X1 and PS4" sir..

You love the PS2 and PS4.. that's great.. :-) glad to hear that.

LOL, lems and their damage control.

Less exclsuives on Xbone means less reason to own one. All the mental gymnastics and damage control in the world will not change this fact. Fact remains, that I get the option to play better versions of all the games lemmings have been hyping for years and I don't own an Xbone and never will.

PC and PS4 is the only combination the hardcore gamer needs. Xbone is a poor man's PC.

Lems = Rekt.

The game will sell more, and more people will get to play it. The whole "but you don't need a bone then" is not quite true. You don't need a X1 if you already have a PC capable of playing said games. And let's not pretend everyone is okay with playing on PC. Or wants to invest in a proper one. It just isn't true. Many are fine playing on consoles.

So, in the end, gamers win, whether you prefer playing on Xbox or PC.

Requirements have been updated. 980 Ti is for Ultra settings and 970 for recommended.

Either way you don't need a build focused on a 980 Ti can be had for around 1300$-1500$. Not 2,000$. I own two GTX 980's which cost more than a 980 together and my build costed me about 1700$ CAD which is 1230$ USD.

It doesn't bother me I just wish I'd known they were going to pull this shit before I bought an Xbox One. I had this really stupid idea it was going to have its own exclusives I couldn't play on PC, you know, like PS4.

Current gen platforms as it stands: PC, PS4 (shit PC with tons of great exclusives), Xbox One (just a really shit PC), Wii U (junk hardware console but at least it has its own exclusives).

The only hardware combos that make sense are PC/PS4 or PC/WII U if kids games are more your thing. Xbox One all but completely pointless now.

its just that Play Station fans like to say it's bad for Xbox One because ... well they are Play Station fans . you're totally right and what you are saying is actually what Microsoft is having in mind . Quantum break being on W10 has very little effect on Xbox Sales . of course , people who already owned a Gaming PC and were thinking about getting X1 , they might no longer be interested but they are a very few number of console users . most console users don't have a gaming PC and for them it's just X1 or PS4 . and Quantum break is only coming to X1 .
I'll be playing Quantum break on my PC with GTX 970 and I'm sure it will be amazing .

yep, youre right.. it makes total sense for your average console gamer to build a high-end PC in order to play a console game their interested in.. /s

and if you already have a PS4, and are interested in playing Quantum Break (or any future Win10/DX12 titles that will be available for both Xbox One and PC), why do cows insist that building a high-end PC (for multiple times the cost of a console) is the more viable option than simply buying an Xbox One at a fraction of the price?

if you want to play Quantum Break, just buy the $350 Quantum Break bundle, plug your new Xbox One in right next to your PS4, and enjoy.. Outside of System Wars, this is the only option that makes sense to a hardcore console gamer..

oh and by the way, buying/building a Windows 10 PC with DirectX12 (which is required to run Quantum Break) is still supporting Microsoft and the Windows 10 ecosystem, genius.. That's the beauty of this combined platform strategy.. Every PC gamer that eventually installs Windows 10, installs DirectX12, and buys XB1/PC exclusives like Quantum Break is supporting the ultimate cause of helping the continued health, viability, and success of XB1/Win10 exclusives..

Thanks for your endorsement sir..

copy that, i'll update the OP

yes, they own the most popular OS on PC , but they don’t own PC, they don’t own its community , they don’t own its games , they don’t own steam/GOG … if Valve can do it why not Sony ? when it comes to PC gaming the winner is the one that offers better services

i'll refer you back to items 2 and 3 of the OP, but in the case of TL;DR:

if you already own a PS4 and would like to play XB1/PC exclusives, buying an Xbox One for those games is still the most fiscally logical option for most gamers. If you already own a high-end gaming PC and are interested in owning a console as well, then it boils down to personal preference..

Do you want to pay $350 for the few PS4 exclusives that aren't also coming to PC or do you want to spend $350 for an Xbox One that takes advantage of universal cross-buy/cross-save features for "buy once, play wherever" connectivity in addition to the other cross-platform benefits already available and planned in the future.. I may prefer the latter where as you may prefer the former.. but in either case, the PC/XB1 combo makes perfect sense: One unified platform where your games are "your games" and you can play them seamlessly across devices.

You don't need a $2k PC to play Quantum Break. I'm willing to bet the requirements are off as well.

This renewed relationship and strengthened partnership between Microsoft Windows PC gaming and Xbox console gaming is a masterful execution by Microsoft. Because divided they could fall but standing together as One they're stronger than ever and could reach more gamers than one system can. Now I understand why the opposition or cows are terrified and trying to knock it down as a negative because the open two way street of possible games that comes from Xbox to PC and PC to Xbox can't be denied. I mean I'm not a PC gamer so when PC games like The Flame in the Flood and The Solus Project, just to name a couple, comes to my Xbox One, I appreciate this partnership even more. They are truly for the gamers.

United we stand, divided we fall I suppose. It's a pretty solid initiative that should strengthen both platforms. I just hope it's not lopsided in terms of the library because there are some PC games I'd love to see use this feature.

MS just needs to get on the crossplay train now. That has been long overdue.

agreed but I never said they own the PC gaming community.. I just pointed out that Microsoft has the most resources and incentive to properly combine their console and PC offerings.. Sony does not..

But yea, in the end, it's going to be up to Microsoft to get the PC Community to shop in the Windows Store and cross-buy is a great first step.. But at a minimum, every Windows 10 PC installed with DirectX12 helps them leverage their ecosystem.. So even if you only game on Steam, a purchase of Quantum Break means you have a DirectX12/Win10 machine and you just purchased an XB1/PC exclusive.. win/win

A win for Windows 10 is still a win for Microsoft.. and people buying games that require Windows 10/DirectX12, even if they buy those games on Steam, are still supporting Microsoft's end game..

And it's a great thing.. PC gamers get more games to play and Xbox One gamers get more console exclusives/support..

Did you even read what I posted? I have a PC, PS4 and Xbox One. Why do I need an Xbox One? There are loads of games coming for PS4 that I will want to play day one there a LOT more than 'a few' exclusives. For Xbox One? Nothing. Maybe Gears 4 but I will wait for the announcement that it is coming to PC too and you know it will happen.

Cross platform, cross save lolz, suddenly we all want two copies of every game for two platforms... right. And why the **** would I want to play games seamlessly across devices, one version being shit and the other one great. I'll just play the PC versions thanks.

Currently PS4 is a better console than the X1 with more games and genuine exclusives and as a PC owner I now can buy Xbox One games without needing to own an Xbox One. Like I said, Xbox One is now completely and utterly pointless on every level. I wonder how much I'll get for mine.

Microsoft is doing the right thing, that's really all there is to.

I agree with Wasdie as well! It's a great strategy!

And did you read my post? I simply said that if you already own a high-end PC and want a console to compliment it, it basically boils down to personal preference when deciding between a PS4 and XB1.. You prefer the PS4.. good for you and enjoy..

Many others will still find the PC/XB1 combo more appealing thanks to the unified platform.. to each their own, pros/cons, etc, etc, etc..

In the end, if you buy games like Quantum Break and maybe eventually Gears 4 on PC, that means you're running a Win10/DX12 rig.. which means that not only are you supporting the unified Windows 10 gaming platform, youre also supporting XB1/PC exclusives.. and Xbox One gamers like myself say "thank you".. that's the beauty of a unified Windows 10 gaming platform..

Feel free to sell your XB1 and enjoy Windows 10 PC gaming experience along with your PS4.. It's still a win for the overall Win 10 ecosystem :-) A wider reach means more players, more sales, more support for both PC gamers and Xbox One gamers.. a total win/win for developers and consumers alike..

PS- and yes get two copies of the same game for two difference platforms for the price of one is awesome.. As someone who has both platforms, I look forward to buying a few small Win10 indie titles for my Surface Pro 3 and have cross-buy for the home console.. games that I would have never thought twice about as a single purchase for my couch console will now be on my radar as combined mobile and home experiences with cross-buy and cross-save.. if that doesn't appeal to you, great.. but it definitely appeals to me

The more systems a game is on the better in my opinion because it would mean better sales and more fans BUT xbox fansboys been saying for a long time that only AAA exclusives matter! so no other platforms or indies which leads us to xbox/PC games and as long as those are not exclusives to xbox then it dosent count and xbox stays as dry as a desert a console filled with multiplats and last gen games lol

Is this lems idea of "Competition is good for gaming"? Having a company sit in two platform slots without any first-party offerings to speak of while cross-pollinating a console from PC gaming and wholly immune from market forces due to large stores of liquid capital from its parent corporation?

Because, that's exactly what this thread is looking like. ..and we must have very different definitions for what "good for gaming" means.

If your a PC gamer it's great... you get console exclusives on a PC. The problem though is if your an Xbox gamer it goes one way. There not bringing many PC exclusives for X1 so all you get is a slap in the face knowing there's a better version available of the game you just bought. On the PS4 you get great exclusives that will never come to PC.

I don't mind it, my wife is a PC gamer so when I, an Xbox fan, spends $65 on Quantum Break then my wife, who hates Xbox, will get a free copy. I guess thats what Microsoft wants.

Consoles actually offer pretty poor bang-for-buck. Right at this moment you're in for $350 plus $200 for 4yrs of multiplayer access. That's $550 for 500GB, or $600 for 1TB variant. For $625 you can buy a PC that's approximately twice as powerful as either console.

Now if Sony and Nintendo would just merge.

What if the "NX" from Nintendo stood for Nintendo Xbox. Nintendo, Xbox and Windows gaming conglomerate created for all gamers.

Coming from a hypocrite, this is hilarious.

You're right of course but it's too funny.

@gago-gago: Doubtful since MS is dead in Japan.

Off your meds kid? You sure do have some fascination with me. What's the matter don't like hearing the truth? Still butthurt about declining your friendship?

Get over and don't PM me.

SW is just a bunch of hermits chiding each other over their second platform of choice.

Lol you seem to be really fixated on me PMing and friendship, is it a desperate cry or something man cause I'm lost.

Also I haven't PM'd you yet but I can if you want a therapy session about how to deal with your mental issues, keep crying.

Also no? I took my pills for my depression just an hour ago.

Dude I'm just messing with you. You need to relax nothing I say on here is serious, we're talking video games.

@kingtito: Funny because I thought I was doing the same thing, hell I even said I agreed with you regardless of the hypocrisy.

Yeah! I can finally put my 2 PC to use now with QB and soon Recore. Thanks MS for PC support lol I can text write off with any build PC or PC upgrade thanks to job related expense, but can't say the same with consoles lol. So I do not mind spend the money on the computers and parts even though that I'm not a PC gamer lol

Ok that wasn't the best wording. What I meant was physically a PC can be put in the corner of a room and be played by a single person without taking up a lot of space. A console sucks up an entire TV and requires a lot more physical space in your room to use. Very few people set up their consoles in more of a desktop format.

This makes it a lot easier to fit into a larger amount of living situations. If you have kids or a significant other, you aren't going to hog the TV to play your games or take up space in a larger living area. A PC is easier to hide in a corner of a room where visitors never go. It's more of a personal thing than a social. People generally play PC games with headphones rather than using speakers so you don't disturb as many people.

That's what I mean.

Yes you can do all of that stuff with a console but generally people don't. Consoles are still more "social" device that generally end up in a shared space. PCs are personal devices that are generally tucked away in a corner away from a shared living space.

I agree, I'd just like to see some PC games on the Windows store make their way to the Xbox w/keyboard and mouse support. The more the Xbox brand becomes a PC-lite experience, the better. Right now it's just missing out on too many great PC exclusives.

The ability to transfer saves between PC and Xbox through a cloud service would be cool as well.

I have no problem with a game like QB releasing on pc. For people saying it's a good thing all the way around though... They're missing a point.

I don't think I'd like a game such as Forza or Halo to go to pc, because I like being able to find full lobbies in those games. Releasing a sp game on pc doesn't really affect this, but with games such as forza, and halo it splits the player base. MS should keep mp focused games exclusive to the XB1 unless they are able to incorporate crossplay between the two.

Also. If MS are truly going to operate this way from here on out, then perhaps they should put a bit more effort into getting some pc exclusives onto the XB1.

Arguments like this generally go along the line of "if you're a console gamer", and note that PC gaming is very expensive. I never understood that argument, because personally I am not someone who restricts myself to playing on any one type of device or form factor. I own a very good PC not just for gaming purposes, but because there are many tangible benefits to owning a fast PC with a lot of RAM and a solid state drive.

Nobody owns a gaming PC for the sole purpose of playing Xbox One games. There's so many other reasons why people should consider investing in PC gaming this gen; too many to list here, but the advantages are well known and discussed here on SW, not least of which is the fact that it is the platform with the most exclusives and the only platform with multigenerational BC built into it. Most people own a PC by default, even if they don't own a gaming PC.

To me, it's not the PC but the *console* that needs to justify its purchase. And I know I'm not the only gamer who thinks along these lines - we are part of the real world too. And for people like me, the Xbox One fails to present itself as a compelling purchase, much like the Vita and PSTV do due to lack of compelling exclusive content.

Now of course I'm fine with that because it means I can avoid purchasing another device! But it does dilute the Xbox brand. It does provide less compelling reasons to own the device when you can play almost every game on it better on PC. While that is true for the majority of the PS4 library as well, PS4 looks like a device that will eventually justify its ownership to me and many others because it seems on track to delivering compelling exclusive content that can't be played anywhere else. And for the content it does share with PS3 and Vita, the PS4 has the best version of the game.

@Antwan3K: yeah the only people I know whose PC's could run this game are people like us. Gamers who spend time posting and reading forums. My uncle Bill's PC won't run QB and I wager most peoples wouldn't.

Its something I've said before, my friend Nelson who works at MS in Washington has told me, MS does make money off PC gaming. "its just as much Intel, NVIDIA, AMD its an open platform" blah, blah. I know how SW and PC gamers think. But in the real world Windows is PC to the majority of people. Only here could this cross platform be seen as bad.