The arguments against a shared Xbox One and PC ecosystem are quite silly

Pretty much this, but hey, everyone is a fanboy of something, but some can be reasonable so there not all that bad lol. I will say that the only only X1 exclusive game I enjoy and my most played X1 game is Rare Replay. It's basically the only game I enjoy playing.

This is why I'm laughing at lems. MS doesn't even respect them to tell them the truth at first. They wait till the last minute and punch them in the balls.

@speak_low: Halo 5 [and Halo 6] is the only reason to ever get an Xbox One if your into that kind of genre. Keep in mind that not everyone is into gaming PC, consoles such as Xbox One has there place, consoles still rule the entertaining/living rooms, so making not owning an Xbox One isn't a big deal, every consoles have a place. Some gamers just want to buy the console, turn it on, and play it. That's it.

@Pedro: Only time will tell, but considering the Xbox One is only 7m units ahead of the WiiU, the operative question is really about whether retailers will continue to support such a system.

I'm very confident that if MS continue down this path with the Xbox brand that consumer support will dwindle to such a point where another player will exploit the vacuum in the console race. After all, that's only been happening since the dawn of console gaming. Once retail abandons ship, it's game over.

Seriously? You think that retailers would be questioning whether or not to carry the Xbox One or not in the future? What is the basis for such nonsense? Console gaming is going to be part of the bigger picture of digital access and games being linked to accounts and not systems. Its a more profitably and reliable venture for publishers and gamers. The only people who want exclusive games are fanboys. People who love gaming passively or passionately just want games and do not care whether or not some random person or persons they do not know can play these games.

It's the principle!!! lol

The life of a fanboy is a hard one. How much of a loser you need to be to make such a asinine statement on Twitter? Poor fellow.

@Pedro: simple. It has an eroding worldwide presence as it is which means developers will spend less time targeting it. In turn, it will have fewer games which erodes the userbase.

Once retailers lose faith in it, there will be a chain reaction. We're already seeing the start of the death spiral. Developers are not holding on to the Xbox for exclusivity as it is.

No, the real question is this. How long do you expect a console to ride the coattails of PC gaming when a console can only be relevant for a year or two before you can make a more powerful PC to replace it at the same cost? Without software to actually differentiate the platform, it's obsolescence is guaranteed. Literally, all a gamer has to do to break the cycle is choose to build a PC and forgo the Xbox. No online fees. Cheaper games. Way more functionality.

This thread is derptastic.

Some people are so odd... I think the issues clearly extend beyond you not wanting the game on the PC.

The joke is on him. QB is a single player game. No need to pay for MP.

This move by MS isn't about shifting consoles, it's about shifting games, which are far more lucrative (especially in the digital market) than console units are, and drawing developers to create those games. There are an estimated 19 million Xbox One gamers plus who really knows how many PC gamers to target with a new game, all it takes is for MS to flash a little cash at developers (not something MS are shy about doing) and that new game becomes a Windows 10 exclusive. Remember there isn't an awful lot of difference between entry level gaming PC's and either console in regard to power and PC games are nearly always scalable to lower end hardware where the Xbox One (and PS4) generally sit.

Add the potential to draw in the Asian market to those games, mainly China and South Korea, where neither console is doing particularly well and you have a extremely attractive proposition for developers. As the saying goes "there's more than one way to crack and egg"

Also the majority of vast majority of console only gamers are not interested in getting a gaming PC, as the console only gamers in SW have stated many, many times over. So it's unlikely to have the effect on Xbox One sales that the Sony faithful are laughing about and could even increase them especially if a lot of new titles become Windows 10 exclusive over the coming years.

@GarGx1: Lot of faith and assumptions in your post its ridiculous. Let me make one on my own. MS has zero faith in xbox anymore and they are now in a transition phase getting out of the console business.

The Xbox 360 was lucky it lasted as long as it did.

I'm a PC gamer and have been for a long, long time, I have no faith in Microsoft what so ever.

Also it's not assumption it's reasoning, I assume nothing where MS is concerned, and not looking at this change in attitude by MS with fanboy tinted glasses.

Here are some real reasons why they are shifting focus. And not your silly delusions about some none existing AAA markets in china that they are willing to devalue the xbox brand.

The change MS is undergoing is because they will never be marketleader in the console space. They will never be a global player and always second to Playstation. While they lost billions chasing Sony they are losing hard in the OS business against apple and google and they failed at the last step in their plan in setting up an always online always watching marketing research machine.

Edit: You say you have no faith in MS but you are taking Phils/MSs word as gospel and even going as far as extenting their rhetoric diarrhea without even trying to see the real reasons behind their actions. A few Months back Phil/MS was all about making xbots feel first class and now they release their exclusives on PC where they will run better.

...Or 20 million and counting choose not to.

I guess I am just confused. It seems like certain people are now active fanboys of Windows 10 and the "Ecosystem" rather than the xbox one console. I can kinda get console warrior mentality or what have you. The operating system warriors is just really weird.... It's like a memo went out to some people to pump up Windows 10. It's like people who get excited for a new version of Office Suite. "**** yeah new Powerpoint and Excell!"

I am still with Windows 7 on one computer, ditched the awfulness of 8 and the metro bullshit for Windows 10 on the gaming laptop, but never did I feel, "Shhhhheeeeet Windows 10 is awwwesome. This ecosystem is GOAT!". It's an operating system and a meh one that I have to deal with. If I could get 7 onto the laptop free and easy, I would have already just cause I know that operating system and I used to it.

I am just hoping if they paywall their games behind the Windows 10 store and ditch Steam, it isn't a clusterfuck like their previous attempts at games delivery system on PC.

@deeph: I guess I touched a nerve there by throwing in the truly massive Asian PC market in to the equation, most devoted console fans don't like it when that market is mentioned.

MS are losing their O/S business to Apple and Google, lol that's a good one.

Operating System Market shares

Do yourself a favour and try looking up some facts before you make rash statements. Windows 10 has, in less than a year since release, gained a greater market share than all versions of Mac OS X combined and Google Chrome O/S isn't even a full operating system, it's designed specifically to run 'Chrome books'.

I'd also like to know where you got "While they lost billions chasing Sony" from as well. More made up 'facts'?

Please try not to make yourself look so foolish

This is what makes me actually roll my eyes so so hard and lemmings taking it with a smile makes me think they are shills and not actual fans. Blantal lies and disrespect for their customers and consumers as a whole is nothing new for MS but lemmings were all about how much changed and how based Phil was, in reviving xbox with his focus on first party exclusives and so on. Lemmings and MSs constant flip flopping is already satirical.

@Antwan3K: When you started off mocking them i tuned you out. And lol at your price tag on a pc, have hermits tought you nothing? Anyway, a PC makes more sense than an xbone and MS knows it.

Are you seriously using desktop? When I said apple and google you should have already know about what market I was talking about.

And thats how it looks like from your own source:

https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8&qpcustomd=1

"truly massive Asian PC market"

Loled hard. List me sales numbers for games like quantum break or comparable AAA games please.

"Windows 10 has, in less than a year since release, gained a greater market share"

By giving it out for free, bundling every new PC/Laptop with it and using an system update to prompt people to upgrade.

"I'd also like to know where you got "While they lost billions chasing Sony" from as well. More made up 'facts'?"

Hard to do when MS stopped reporting sales numbers and started adding different division to their xbox division to mask profits and loses because they are embarrassed of the performance. But they lost with the xbox 1 billions, RROD cost them billions and they are price cutting the xbone like crazy for the last two years. Even if they did get a little money the opportunity costs alone makes the whole xbox expedition a huge failure.

I would suggest you take a step back and look at the reality, but I guess the opportunity of getting more console scraps makes you even believe and defend MSs bullshit, lol.

Edit: Remembered that some nintendofanboy made a graph about profits some years ago so take it with a huge pinch of salt.

@Antwan3K: Hem, steam.

Some of these comments are so short-sighted it's hilarious.. Simply put:

People interested in consoles buy consoles.. Console gaming is at all time high.. A console gamer who's interested in Quantum Break will buy that game on Xbox One regardless of it exists on PC or not.. The end result is that a Win10/DX12 device was utilized and an XB1/PC exclusive was purchased.. That's a win Microsoft and the unified XB1/Win10 platform..

People interested in gaming on PC will game on PC.. This news means more games for PC gamers and more goodwill towards Microsoft.. A PC gamer interested in Quantum Break will buy it on PC regardless of if it exists on Xbox One or not.. The end result is that a Win10/DX12 device was utilized and an XB1/PC exclusive was purchased.. That's a win for Microsoft and the unified XB1/Win10 platform..

Now, as a PC gamer, after you've already bought/built a Win10/DX12 PC and if you decide to buy a PS4 or Wii U in order to compliment your gaming, great.. Microsoft already has you as a supporter of the XB1/Win10 unified platform via your PC.. And as such, you'll still purchase XB1/PC exclusives..

It's the exact same scenario if you, as a console gamer, already own an Xbox One and decide to buy a PS4 or Wii U in order to compliment your gaming.. your SECONDARY purchase doesn't help or hurt Microsoft because Microsoft already has you as a supporter of the XB1/Win10 unified platform via your Xbox One.. And as such, you'll still purchase XB1/PC exclusives..

In ANY of these scenarios, an XB1/PC exclusive was still purchased and utilized on either an Xbox One or a Windows 10 PC and that opens the door for more and more support from devs.. Which means potentially more and more XB1/PC exclusives that won't be available on PS4 thanks to Microsoft leveraging that combined install base of PC gamers and Xbox One gamers..

Some of you need to think beyond the plastic box you prefer and think about the future.. Eventually, the games you buy won't be tied to a single plastic box.. They'll seamlessly move with you from device to device thanks to digital distribution, cloud services, and game streaming.. Microsoft is taking the first huge steps with a universal Windows 10 platform that extends across PCs, tablets, Xbox Ones, HoloLens, mobile phones, and more.. If Sony and Nintendo don't adopt similar strategies, they'll be at a huge disadvantage as time continues on..

Again, let stop acting like whether or not you decide to buy a PS4 or Xbox One as a SECONDARY purchase to your gaming PC is the "make or break" issue for Microsoft's console sales.. The fact that you've already invested in a Windows 10 device and are purchasing XB1/PC exclusives means that your support for the unified XB1/Win10 platform has already been established and appreciated.. If you decide to compliment your PC with an XB1, great, that's icing on the cake.. If you decide to buy a PS4, that's great too..

The bottomline is that PC gamers buying and supporting XB1/PC exclusives means that the Xbox One will potentially get a ton of console exclusives that won't be available on PS4 which is obviously good news for Xbox One gamers and Xbox One console sales.. Only time will tell of course but the strategy is brilliant.. Bravo

TLDR - XB1/PC games are games that you can't buy on PS4.. The Xbox One isn't competing with the PC, it's competing with the PS4.. And in that competition, "console exclusives" matter.. And the Xbox One having access to games that can't be played on PS4 is obviously good news for Xbox One gamers and Xbox One console sales..

It doesn't matter what console you decide to buy in addition to your gaming PC.. Regardless of if you buy a PS4 as a secondary device, your PC has already served it's purpose of increasing the Windows 10 install base of devices and your purchases of XB1/PC exclusives already served to encourage developers to continue making their games exclusive to XB1/PC instead of potentially putting them on PS4 as well..

I think people here in SW are forgetting that the percentage of gamers in general who own a PC capable of playing something like Quantum Break is very small.

True, a lot of hermits here would have no reason to buy an Xbox One if games keep coming out on PC, but the fact is that people here aren't even a drop in the bucket that Microsoft's looking at. A huge majority of gamers just buy one console and play whatever games are available on that. Xbox exclusives releasing on PC as well makes no difference to them.

And another thing for Microsoft is that they're using this strategy to push their store, as these games will be exclusive to that.

@quadknight: Didn't answer my question because a) he's a new gamer b) has shit for a collection c) has hardly any trophies despite loving Sony d) stupidly thinks buying highest end hardware makes you automatically "hardcore".

@Antwan3K: Absolutely delusional post.

What is OSX and Chrome OS...

Try being specific next time smart guy...

I specified more than enough when I used the word "losing". But I guess I expected too much...

I live with my brother LOL. I can walk downstairs and play it if I wanted...

Point is, there's NO absolute reason(s) to own an X1. That's just a fact

Why fork over money on a console when every other system has a better version of nearly all the games it has ?

So PS4 is the #1 selling console with most exclusives and the one and only true exclusive machinery dedicated to gamers around the world.

Simple a marvel of technology meshed with customer wants and blended with the live, learn and love philosophy.

No wonder PS4 is almost double X1 sales.

Link?

So...you will be ok if there is no Xbox next gen?

Game sales will/might be good, but hardware...not sure about that.

I'm sure RoTR had some influence on how they're handling QB.

and people will give up and move to ps4.

According to Steam Stats 4%, or around 5 million, Steam users are playing on a GTX 970, a card around 3x as powerful as either console GPU. Approx. 25%, or around 30 million are playing on systems more powerful than Xbox One. There are approx. 20 million Xbox One units sold worldwide.

@Antwan3K:

$1350 - $2000 you say?

Let's take the Recommended settings to run the game and pick Amazon as reference (which is not the cheapest website to buy Pc parts):

Intel Core i5 4690 - $223

r9 390 - $315

16 gb - $74

Total: $612

Even building a pc from scratch and adding a new monitor, keyboard and mouse would cost me less than what you guesstimated.

I apply similar argument in terms of consoles exclusives in general, the idea of exclusivity has become very archaic imo, people don't buy consoles for exclusives anymore, its about the brand and whats marketed behind it, I remember looking at a survey a few months ago that confirmed that, apparently exclusivity is the 4th reason why people choose a console over another. The reality is exclusivity does not determine a console's sales, if it did then the WiiU would be the winner as the consoles is primarily made of exclusives. In that respect there is nothing wrong with bringing over console exclusives to the PC, although the difference being that it would have no effect on consoles because the PC does not compete against the X1 or PS4 or WiiU, its an entire market of its own, even if Quantum Break had not been brought to the PC there is no guarantee that people would have bought an XboxOne for the game.

I wanted to see his thoughts on his assumption.. But you proved everything I already wanted to say,

Why would a $700-$800 PC be outdated the moment you build it?

You're forgetting the Mobo and HDD...

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HdRFcf

Exact scenario as street fighter v

Don't see the problem, just a cow circle jerk

Comparing a 390-based system to what the XO is packing is like killing a puppy with a bomb.

My bad...

There is nothing wrong with sharing games... Means more gamers can enjoy such titles.

Considering I am one of those who don't own an X1, I'm looking forward to get the opportunity of playing QB on PC.

Lol, I'm not saying you shouldn't have posted :P