The current SW Console Graphics King?

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#1 Aquaunitpatrol
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Well as of right now at this moment with games that are RELEASED it seems Gears of War 3 is the current console graphics king, beating all other console exclusive and multiplt games released so far AT THE MOMENT. What do you guys believe? I think it's undebatable as of this moment in time.

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#2 casharmy
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GeOW3 is confirmed to be jaggie just like all the other versions. It looks great for what it is but no, maybe graphics king if you are only talking aobut xbox360.

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#3 Chutebox
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Nothing because there is no such thing.

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#5 Aquaunitpatrol
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PS3: Who knows ? 360: Gears 3. Wii: Zelda SS.TheGuardian03
Gears 3 beats SS so like I said isn't it the console graphics king?
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GeOW3 is confirmed to be jaggie just like all the other versions. It looks great for what it is but no, maybe graphics king if you are only talking aobut xbox360.

casharmy

Confirmed eh? There's far less jags then previous games. Hence the reason Epic included FXAA in the retail build, unlike the beta.

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#7 Bretter2200
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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]PS3: Who knows ? 360: Gears 3. Wii: Zelda SS.Aquaunitpatrol
Gears 3 beats SS so like I said isn't it the console graphics king?

Generally yes, it's a technical feat to marvel over. Well, expect it's easily beaten by PC games.

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#8 casharmy
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PS3: Who knows ? 360: Gears 3. Wii: Zelda SS.TheGuardian03

PS3: God of War 3, then Uncharted 2, then Killzone 2, then Killzone 3 then Infamous 2 (actually might look better than KZ2/3 IMO).

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#9 BPoole96
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Gears 3 seems to be the best looking console game. Either that or God of War 3. So either way the console graphics kind is GoW3 :P

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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

GeOW3 is confirmed to be jaggie just like all the other versions. It looks great for what it is but no, maybe graphics king if you are only talking aobut xbox360.

Bretter2200

Confirmed eh? There's far less jags then previous games. Hence the reason Epic included FXAA in the retail build, unlike the beta.

That's your proof? A **** image where you can't see **** Both look equally bad.

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God of War 3 looks better than this year's flashy shooters.
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#12 White_Dreams
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I'd go with God of War 3.

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This one:

lol

lol

lol

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All pics from the MP

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#15 CwlHeddwyn
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Gears 3 seems to have stOlen the Crown from Crysis 2. But it's a close thing at the top.
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You said System Wars... so why are you limiting the "graphics king" to consoles? Either way... one of the best-looking games I've played this gen is Castlevania: Lords of Shadow.
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#17 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

GeOW3 is confirmed to be jaggie just like all the other versions. It looks great for what it is but no, maybe graphics king if you are only talking aobut xbox360.

Bretter2200

Confirmed eh? There's far less jags then previous games. Hence the reason Epic included FXAA in the retail build, unlike the beta.

Sorry buddy GeoW3 has 0 AA...

Digital Foundry vs. Gears of War 3

there is no noticeable anti-aliasing. ...the final game throws out a lot more range and there are plenty of "jaggies" in evidence, especially in the more colourful stages.

This is something of a surprise: NVIDIA's FXAA technology has made its way into several shipping games now and there's even support in recent builds of Unreal Engine 3, so the non-appearance of any form of anti-aliasing in Gears 3 - even one as light on resources as FXAA - is curious. It may simply be the case that performance is finely balanced as it is and Epic couldn't factor in the required 1ms of GPU time.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-gears-of-war-3

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#18 MrJack3690
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Gears 3 seems to be the best looking console game. Either that or God of War 3. So either way the console graphics kind is GoW3 :P

BPoole96

No, it's not GoW3...Clearly it's GoW3...:|

:P

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[QUOTE="Bretter2200"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

GeOW3 is confirmed to be jaggie just like all the other versions. It looks great for what it is but no, maybe graphics king if you are only talking aobut xbox360.

casharmy

Confirmed eh? There's far less jags then previous games. Hence the reason Epic included FXAA in the retail build, unlike the beta.

Sorry buddy GeoW3 has 0 AA...

Digital Foundry vs. Gears of War 3

there is no noticeable anti-aliasing. ...the final game throws out a lot more range and there are plenty of "jaggies" in evidence, especially in the more colourful stages.

This is something of a surprise: NVIDIA's FXAA technology has made its way into several shipping games now and there's even support in recent builds of Unreal Engine 3, so the non-appearance of any form of anti-aliasing in Gears 3 - even one as light on resources as FXAA - is curious. It may simply be the case that performance is finely balanced as it is and Epic couldn't factor in the required 1ms of GPU time.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-gears-of-war-3

Worthy to note is that MLAA requires 3.5ms

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#20 turtlethetaffer
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I think that FFXIII, RE5, Dead Space 2, KZ3, GoW3 are some of the best looking games right now.

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#22 Bretter2200
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This one:

lol

lol

lol

lol

All pics from the MP

Cow4ever

What game is that? Glad it's not Gears 3, textures look awful. And jaggies are very, very apparent.

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#23 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]

This one:

All pics from the MP

Bretter2200

What game is that? Glad it's not Gears 3, textures look awful. And jaggies are very, very apparent.

Awful? Are you kidding me? It looks way better this close than gears from far away! Gears 3 textures are just a solid color. And The reason jaggies are apparent(not a surprise since it's very close) is because it uses the same AA implementation as Gears 3 which is... none lol! The SP on the other hand uses MLAA which Gears can't touch.

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[QUOTE="Bretter2200"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

GeOW3 is confirmed to be jaggie just like all the other versions. It looks great for what it is but no, maybe graphics king if you are only talking aobut xbox360.

casharmy

Confirmed eh? There's far less jags then previous games. Hence the reason Epic included FXAA in the retail build, unlike the beta.

Sorry buddy GeoW3 has 0 AA...

Digital Foundry vs. Gears of War 3

there is no noticeable anti-aliasing. ...the final game throws out a lot more range and there are plenty of "jaggies" in evidence, especially in the more colourful stages.

This is something of a surprise: NVIDIA's FXAA technology has made its way into several shipping games now and there's even support in recent builds of Unreal Engine 3, so the non-appearance of any form of anti-aliasing in Gears 3 - even one as light on resources as FXAA - is curious. It may simply be the case that performance is finely balanced as it is and Epic couldn't factor in the required 1ms of GPU time.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-gears-of-war-3

And yet, they've got no valid proof of such. Because jags generally are evidence, right?

Not the fact you can clearly see an improvement in jag amount from the beta to the retail build via my comparision.

And shortly after the beta UE was updated to include FXAA, derp? Did they even state why it doesn't FXAA.

It's obvious there's FXAA implamention, that or jags magically disapeared with no interference from Epic right?

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#25 commonfate
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Gonna go with Nier

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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]

This one:

All pics from the MP

Bretter2200

What game is that? Glad it's not Gears 3, textures look awful. And jaggies are very, very apparent.

Its Uncharted 2 but whoever did the shots went into the theatre mode and played around with some of the setting likes bloom and DoF. The MP in Uncharted 2 doesn't have any AA which is why there are so many jaggles. I think the textures in the second pic look pretty good though, but the grass and ground texture in the 3rd pic are pretty atrocious

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[QUOTE="Bretter2200"]

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]

This one:

All pics from the MP

Cow4ever

What game is that? Glad it's not Gears 3, textures look awful. And jaggies are very, very apparent.

Awful? Are you kidding me? It looks way better this close than gears from far away! Gears 3 textures are just a solid color. And The reason jaggies are apparent(not a surprise since it's very close) is because it uses the same AA implementation as Gears 3 which is... none lol! The SP on the other hand uses MLAA which Gears can't touch.

Gears of war 3 includes some of the best textures in consoles, they're astondingly good. A.A inclusion is obvious from the beta to the retail build, as jags don't magically lessen via development without interference. Once more, examine the beta and retail comparision; which I made myself. Which I can link to you in motion.

I'm not biased, I've got a PS3. And I'm telling you without knowing which game that is, that it is awful. That's not even close to graphical king, I would roll over in my grave if it was. Mind telling me what it is?

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#28 DarthJohnova
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Gonna go with Nier

commonfate
Not sure if serious. IMO the graphics were sub-par but the redeeming qualities such as the incredible story and fantastic character developments highly outweighed the graphics, so that I didn't notice the their sub-par-ness :P
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#29 commonfate
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[QUOTE="commonfate"]

Gonna go with Nier

DarthJohnova

Not sure if serious. IMO the graphics were sub-par but the redeeming qualities such as the incredible story and fantastic character developments highly outweighed the graphics, so that I didn't notice the their sub-par-ness :P

Serious like you've never known.

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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Bretter2200"]

Confirmed eh? There's far less jags then previous games. Hence the reason Epic included FXAA in the retail build, unlike the beta.

Cow4ever

Sorry buddy GeoW3 has 0 AA...

Digital Foundry vs. Gears of War 3

there is no noticeable anti-aliasing. ...the final game throws out a lot more range and there are plenty of "jaggies" in evidence, especially in the more colourful stages.

This is something of a surprise: NVIDIA's FXAA technology has made its way into several shipping games now and there's even support in recent builds of Unreal Engine 3, so the non-appearance of any form of anti-aliasing in Gears 3 - even one as light on resources as FXAA - is curious. It may simply be the case that performance is finely balanced as it is and Epic couldn't factor in the required 1ms of GPU time.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-gears-of-war-3

Worthy to note is that MLAA requires 3.5ms

another whorthy note is that lemmings made an issue about Infamous 2 not having AA, yet I2 is an open world sandbox game and GeoW3 is just a liner corridor and on-rails shooter yet it couldn't handle AA after all the hype.

lemmings: :o Gears 3 to have superior AA to GOW3

lol, fail.

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[QUOTE="Bretter2200"]

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]

This one:

All pics from the MP

BPoole96

What game is that? Glad it's not Gears 3, textures look awful. And jaggies are very, very apparent.

Its Uncharted 2 but whoever did the shots went into the theatre mode and played around with some of the setting likes bloom and DoF. The MP in Uncharted 2 doesn't have any AA which is why there are so many jaggles. I think the textures in the second pic look pretty good though, but the grass and ground texture in the 3rd pic are pretty atrocious

Why do ppl still do this? passing off bullshots as gameplay. They know they're fake, we know they're fake. Everybody knows it.
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#32 DarthJohnova
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[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"][QUOTE="commonfate"]

Gonna go with Nier

commonfate

Not sure if serious. IMO the graphics were sub-par but the redeeming qualities such as the incredible story and fantastic character developments highly outweighed the graphics, so that I didn't notice the their sub-par-ness :P

Serious like you've never known.

Fair enough man :) I'll certainly not argue about the caliber of the game as a whole.

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KZ3 looks better.

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[QUOTE="Bretter2200"]

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]

This one:

All pics from the MP

BPoole96

What game is that? Glad it's not Gears 3, textures look awful. And jaggies are very, very apparent.

Its Uncharted 2 but whoever did the shots went into the theatre mode and played around with some of the setting likes bloom and DoF. The MP in Uncharted 2 doesn't have any AA which is why there are so many jaggles. I think the textures in the second pic look pretty good though, but the grass and ground texture in the 3rd pic are pretty atrocious

There are no bloom or DoF I think. Yes it doesn't have AA I mentioned it previously. I disagree the ground is of very high detail and the grass are sprites just like in every game but these ones are pretty decent.
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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]

[QUOTE="Bretter2200"]

What game is that? Glad it's not Gears 3, textures look awful. And jaggies are very, very apparent.

Bretter2200

Awful? Are you kidding me? It looks way better this close than gears from far away! Gears 3 textures are just a solid color. And The reason jaggies are apparent(not a surprise since it's very close) is because it uses the same AA implementation as Gears 3 which is... none lol! The SP on the other hand uses MLAA which Gears can't touch.

Gears of war 3 includes some of the best textures in consoles, they're astondingly good. A.A inclusion is obvious from the beta to the retail build, as jags don't magically lessen via development without interference. Once more, examine the beta and retail comparision; which I made myself. Which I can link to you in motion.

I'm not biased, I've got a PS3. And I'm telling you without knowing which game that is, that it is awful. That's not even close to graphical king, I would roll over in my grave if it was. Mind telling me what it is?

Some of the best perhaps but not close to U2. Yeah link to me in motion but I think DF is a pretty valid proof of the opposite. Now you are just joking... :/

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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

Sorry buddy GeoW3 has 0 AA...

Digital Foundry vs. Gears of War 3

there is no noticeable anti-aliasing. ...the final game throws out a lot more range and there are plenty of "jaggies" in evidence, especially in the more colourful stages.

This is something of a surprise: NVIDIA's FXAA technology has made its way into several shipping games now and there's even support in recent builds of Unreal Engine 3, so the non-appearance of any form of anti-aliasing in Gears 3 - even one as light on resources as FXAA - is curious. It may simply be the case that performance is finely balanced as it is and Epic couldn't factor in the required 1ms of GPU time.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-gears-of-war-3

casharmy

Worthy to note is that MLAA requires 3.5ms

another whorthy note is that lemmings made an issue about Infamous 2 not having AA, yet I2 is an open world sandbox game and GeoW3 is just a liner corridor and on-rails shooter yet it couldn't handle AA after all the hype.

lemmings: :o Gears 3 to have superior AA to GOW3

lol, fail.

lol yeah I remember when they went on about this new AA technique that would be so much better than MLAA but I guess the 360 couldn't handle it with as much as 26 FPS!½!!

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Geometry wars 2. Duhhhhhhhhhhhh

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#38 Bretter2200
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Some of the best but perhaps not close to Uncharted 2, link me to it in motion.

In motion:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbm1Okc5qdk

Not close. Obviously it's pretty close considering a group of people agree and debate such. I've got UC2, which I can prove. And Gears of war 3 looks miles superior and is more consistant. I'll wait to play UC3 though to decide, though you've still yet to awnswer where those pictures are from?

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Gears of War 3 by a long mile.
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#40 kalipekona
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GeOW3 is confirmed to be jaggie just like all the other versions. It looks great for what it is but no, maybe graphics king if you are only talking aobut xbox360.

casharmy

Yet somehow cows like you are always saying that anti-aliasing isn't really a big deal when it comes to multiplatform games and the 360 has it and the PS3 doesn't. What you are doing is called selective criticism -- focusing on the weakest element and ingoring all the strengths.

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#41 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]PS3: Who knows ? 360: Gears 3. Wii: Zelda SS.casharmy

PS3: God of War 3, then Uncharted 2, then Killzone 2, then Killzone 3 then Infamous 2 (actually might look better than KZ2/3 IMO).

The fact that you put God of War 3 ahead of Uncharted 2 and Killzone 3, and believe that somehow inFamous 2 possibly looks better than KZ2/3, says everything that needs to be said about your "opinion" on such matters.

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#42 commonfate
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[QUOTE="commonfate"]

[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"] Not sure if serious. IMO the graphics were sub-par but the redeeming qualities such as the incredible story and fantastic character developments highly outweighed the graphics, so that I didn't notice the their sub-par-ness :PDarthJohnova

Serious like you've never known.

Fair enough man :) I'll certainly not argue about the caliber of the game as a whole.

Edit: It's so weird seeing Mustang addressing Mustang :P btw your sig is incredible!

What makes our avatars even more ironic is that I am the one joking around lol. I don't really care for console graphics kings or whatever, I'm just here to mess with people. And thanks :P

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#43 JohnDead80
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No console game comes close to God of War, Killzone and Uncharted. Gears is close, but no cigar.

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So much love for God of War 3...

Good job guys.

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#45 Shenmue_Jehuty
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First off, graphics are overrated. Second, Gears 3 is no the graphics king, not by a long shot. Games like LA Nior and Heavy Rain are far superior in terms of graphical capabilities. There are a hand full of others games with better graphics too.

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#46 Cow4ever
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Not close. Obviously it's pretty close considering a group of people agree and debate such. I've got UC2, which I can prove. And Gears of war 3 looks miles superior and is more consistant. I'll wait to play UC3 though to decide, though you've still yet to awnswer where those pictures are from?

Bretter2200

Eh no. people debated about Crysis 2 (which I do have) and it's a really REALLY ugly game. Yes IMO also Gears looks at least 10X than that mess. The pictures are from U2 MP And that video I really think both looked equally bad. But TBH I can't really see jaggies on utube very easily. Crysis 2 looked good on utube but playing it you see all the horrible jaggies.

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#47 kalipekona
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No console game comes close to God of War, Killzone and Uncharted. Gears is close, but no cigar.

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lol you just contradicted yourself. First you say "no console game comes close to God of War, Killzone and Uncharted", then you say "Gears is close". haha

All the top games on both consoles are close. That's because the two consoles are close in power. Get a PC if you want to see a bigger jump than that.

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#48 casharmy
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GeOW3 is confirmed to be jaggie just like all the other versions. It looks great for what it is but no, maybe graphics king if you are only talking aobut xbox360.

kalipekona

Yet somehow cows like you are always saying that anti-aliasing isn't really a big deal when it comes to multiplatform gamesand the 360 has it and the PS3 doesn't. What you are doing is called selective criticism -- focusing on the weakest element and ingoring all the strengths.

:| what the **** are you talking about, I've never said that.

You need to get your info straight before you start talking nonsense.

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#49 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]PS3: Who knows ? 360: Gears 3. Wii: Zelda SS.kalipekona

PS3: God of War 3, then Uncharted 2, then Killzone 2, then Killzone 3 then Infamous 2 (actually might look better than KZ2/3 IMO).

The fact that you put God of War 3 ahead of Uncharted 2 and Killzone 3, and believe that somehow inFamous 2 possibly looks better than KZ2/3, says everything that needs to be said about your "opinion" on such matters.

Yes I put GOW3 ahead because it's the best looking game. If you didn't notice some other people in this thread share the same opinioin. What I has said must have really upset you, but my opinion is valid as of my experience.

Why do you think GOW3 being the currently the best looking game on consoles is far fetched? Did you even play it?

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#50 casharmy
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[QUOTE="JohnDead80"]

No console game comes close to God of War, Killzone and Uncharted. Gears is close, but no cigar.

kalipekona

lol you just contradicted yourself. First you say "no console game comes close to God of War, Killzone and Uncharted", then you say "Gears is close". haha

All the top games on both consoles are close. That's because the two consoles are close in power. Get a PC if you want to see a bigger jump than that.

GOW3 looks better than most vanilla PC games on the market, and UC and KZ give them a run for their money.