The Flood vs The Zerg vs Chimera

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#151 PikaPichu
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The Zerg would win without question. Here's a classic cutscene of Zerg ownage. (graphic warning to the younger fanboys)
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#152 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]Zerg > Flood Cause the name is cooler. The Flood sounds dumb.

Not when they have you by the throat...they're terrifying then...

:lol: You're taking it too seriously. Zerg = fictional. Flood = fictional.

lol, I know... Sorry, can't help it.:P
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#153 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Stig-FTW"]I'm a huge Halo fan, but this thread has brought to my attention how much inspiration Halo must of took from StarCraft. The similarities between the three sides are uncanny.sonicmj1

There are tons of sources Halo took inspiration from. The whole idea of a ring-shaped world came from another book (I can't remember the title, though I bet it's self-explanatory, but I know it's by Larry Niven), and the structure and organization of Earth's army seem almost straight out of Starship Troopers.

However, all this arguing is irrelevant. The Saiyans would defeat all other life. They anihillate planets as a hobby.

The book was called "Ringworld."
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#154 sonicmj1
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Stig-FTW"]I'm a huge Halo fan, but this thread has brought to my attention how much inspiration Halo must of took from StarCraft. The similarities between the three sides are uncanny.Spartan070

There are tons of sources Halo took inspiration from. The whole idea of a ring-shaped world came from another book (I can't remember the title, though I bet it's self-explanatory, but I know it's by Larry Niven), and the structure and organization of Earth's army seem almost straight out of Starship Troopers.

However, all this arguing is irrelevant. The Saiyans would defeat all other life. They anihillate planets as a hobby.

The book was called "Ringworld."


I knew it was something really obvious, and that probably would have been my first guess. I just wasn't certain.
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#155 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Stig-FTW"]I'm a huge Halo fan, but this thread has brought to my attention how much inspiration Halo must of took from StarCraft. The similarities between the three sides are uncanny.sonicmj1

There are tons of sources Halo took inspiration from. The whole idea of a ring-shaped world came from another book (I can't remember the title, though I bet it's self-explanatory, but I know it's by Larry Niven), and the structure and organization of Earth's army seem almost straight out of Starship Troopers.

However, all this arguing is irrelevant. The Saiyans would defeat all other life. They anihillate planets as a hobby.

The book was called "Ringworld."


I knew it was something really obvious, and that probably would have been my first guess. I just wasn't certain.

It's not bad, have you read it?
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#156 sonicmj1
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Stig-FTW"]I'm a huge Halo fan, but this thread has brought to my attention how much inspiration Halo must of took from StarCraft. The similarities between the three sides are uncanny.Spartan070

There are tons of sources Halo took inspiration from. The whole idea of a ring-shaped world came from another book (I can't remember the title, though I bet it's self-explanatory, but I know it's by Larry Niven), and the structure and organization of Earth's army seem almost straight out of Starship Troopers.

However, all this arguing is irrelevant. The Saiyans would defeat all other life. They anihillate planets as a hobby.

The book was called "Ringworld."


I knew it was something really obvious, and that probably would have been my first guess. I just wasn't certain.

It's not bad, have you read it?


No. I probably should, but then again, there's a lot of books that I should read, but haven't.
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#157 The_Nemacyst
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In the term of "scary looking" Zerg wins.

In the term of "more deadly/intelligent" Flood wins...

The Forerunners were a very smart race that were more advanced than the humans and covenant combined, yet they lost to the flood. The flood aren't just mindless zombies, from what I remember, back in Halo 1 they were fixing a ship to go and infect more people. Though they just don't have 7 foot claws.

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#158 mutenpika
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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Spartan070"] Still, they cannot die or be defeated. The simple grasp of this escapes you somehow...

Nor can the Zerg! Therefore it becomes a question of tactics and strategy.

No, then it becomes a draw.

Well, it really becomes a question of who can wipe the other out to a man. Or, perhaps killing something like Gravemind would do it. The Zerg would have the advantage in either of these, as they are organised.

The. Flood. Can. Not. Die. It is impossible, if the Flood cannot defeat the strategically superior Zeg then there will just be a draw. The Flood cannot be "killed."

The question is can they be destroyed, not killed o.o


What happened to the ones on the first Halo ring that MC destroyed? Did they "survive" the incredible explosion and subsequent destruction of all land on the ring?

The flood can be destroyed. Bungie won't leave them as a loose end when Halo 3 finishes up, they'll be down for the count. I guarantee it: after all, the Halo saga's probably going to have a happy ending, right?
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#159 lodog
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halo console fps starcraft point and click pc game this so doesn't work for me I can't even picture these two fighting.

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#160 MgamerBD
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Zergs suck and when the flood takes over the humans that the Zerg lost to it wll be over . Then they will go destroy the Zerg leader with the humans weapons and machines.  Then take over the universe.
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#161 Danm_999
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Zergs suck and when the flood takes over the humans that the Zerg lost to it wll be over . Then they will go destroy the Zerg leader with the humans weapons and machines. Then take over the universe.MgamerBD
Humans aren't part of this fight, plus the Zerg can take over humans too. The Flood aren't that organised though. They are capable of broad objectives, like "fix that ship and use it to escape" or "capture that", but they have none of the sentience, organisation or intelligence the Zerg have. In a battle, man for a man (term used loosely) the Zerg would wipe the floor with the Flood.
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#162 dark_templar_99
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What are the floods Anti-Air Capabilities?  You cant forget that zerg are just as good (if not better) in the air.  Easily transport off of a planet very quickly and leave the flood to die.  However, if the flood are also good in the air then maybe it'll be a draw.

I need more info about the flood before you convince me that the zerg wont win.
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#163 Danm_999
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What are the floods Anti-Air Capabilities? You cant forget that zerg are just as good (if not better) in the air. Easily transport off of a planet very quickly and leave the flood to die. However, if the flood are also good in the air then maybe it'll be a draw.

I need more info about the flood before you convince me that the zerg wont win.
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Flood have only got what they can steal in the air. They need to steal other races technology to travel through space.
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#164 dark_templar_99
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[QUOTE="dark_templar_99"]What are the floods Anti-Air Capabilities? You cant forget that zerg are just as good (if not better) in the air. Easily transport off of a planet very quickly and leave the flood to die. However, if the flood are also good in the air then maybe it'll be a draw.

I need more info about the flood before you convince me that the zerg wont win.
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Flood have only got what they can steal in the air. They need to steal other races technology to travel through space.

Hm... how would the flood go through the process of getting up into the air to steal any air-units?
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#165 Donkey_Puncher
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As much of a nerd as I may feel by answering this, I'll say Zerg.

They were bred to be perfect in essence, along with an Overmind which is eternal and omnipotent among it's underlings.  They also absorb and bring new species into the fold.

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#166 PikaPichu
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="dark_templar_99"]What are the floods Anti-Air Capabilities? You cant forget that zerg are just as good (if not better) in the air. Easily transport off of a planet very quickly and leave the flood to die. However, if the flood are also good in the air then maybe it'll be a draw.

I need more info about the flood before you convince me that the zerg wont win.
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Flood have only got what they can steal in the air. They need to steal other races technology to travel through space.

Hm... how would the flood go through the process of getting up into the air to steal any air?

Are they sentient at all? I don't know much of their background outside of Halo 1 and 2, but if they infect a pilot, could they use his thoughts to pilot a ship?
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#167 dark_templar_99
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[QUOTE="dark_templar_99"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="dark_templar_99"]What are the floods Anti-Air Capabilities? You cant forget that zerg are just as good (if not better) in the air. Easily transport off of a planet very quickly and leave the flood to die. However, if the flood are also good in the air then maybe it'll be a draw.

I need more info about the flood before you convince me that the zerg wont win.
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Flood have only got what they can steal in the air. They need to steal other races technology to travel through space.

Hm... how would the flood go through the process of getting up into the air to steal any air?

Are they sentient at all? I don't know much of their background outside of Halo 1 and 2, but if they infect a pilot, could they use his thoughts to pilot a ship?

The zerg are like "monsters" they dont have technology. I dont know... this is confusing
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#168 PikaPichu
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[QUOTE="dark_templar_99"] The zerg are like "monsters" they dont have technology. I dont know... this is confusing

The Zerg have flying transports/farms, crab things that can rain death from above and those dragon things. That should be plenty to own the skies.
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#169 mythrol
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I can't believe I'm going to actually continue this debate but. . . The Zerg would win due to excessive amounts of Guardians. Floods lack of any real air defense coupled with Guardians strong defense to ground attack, and super high ground attack offense means that you could send it a few dozen Guardians and simply wipe out any flood. Man, I can't believe I'm this much of a geek.
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#170 PikaPichu
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[QUOTE="mythrol"]I can't believe I'm going to actually continue this debate but. . . The Zerg would win due to excessive amounts of Guardians. Floods lack of any real air defense coupled with Guardians strong defense to ground attack, and super high ground attack offense means that you could send it a few dozen Guardians and simply wipe out any flood. Man, I can't believe I'm this much of a geek.

Those are the things that look like flying crabs right? They have extremely long range and are pretty much like flying snipers. XD
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#171 fkholmes
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[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"]You should have put the Krill in that list, the birds from Gears.sonicmj1

Except that Kryll can be owned by a lantern.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Best.Post.Eva.
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#172 mythrol
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[QUOTE="PikaPichu"][QUOTE="mythrol"]I can't believe I'm going to actually continue this debate but. . . The Zerg would win due to excessive amounts of Guardians. Floods lack of any real air defense coupled with Guardians strong defense to ground attack, and super high ground attack offense means that you could send it a few dozen Guardians and simply wipe out any flood. Man, I can't believe I'm this much of a geek.

Those are the things that look like flying crabs right? They have extremely long range and are pretty much like flying snipers. XD

Yep.
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#173 Kook18
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Zerg

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#174 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"]what / who the hell are the Zergs ? poopinloop32
Never post agian:|



lol. Dude, play Starcraft.
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#175 Viviath
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I thought this was fact already...Zergs pwn all! not even chuck norris can take on the zerg.
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#176 mythrol
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I thought this was fact already...Zergs pwn all! not even chuck norris can take on the zerg.Viviath
Chuck Norris wouldn't die; nor would the zerg kill him. They'd turn him into, "Infested Chuck Norris". And then he'd own all.
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#177 Viviath
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[QUOTE="Viviath"]I thought this was fact already...Zergs pwn all! not even chuck norris can take on the zerg.mythrol
Chuck Norris wouldn't die; nor would the zerg kill him. They'd turn him into, "Infested Chuck Norris". And then he'd own all.

The level of pwnage that would eminate from a Zerg infested Chuck Norris is beyond comprehension!
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#178 mythrol
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="Viviath"]I thought this was fact already...Zergs pwn all! not even chuck norris can take on the zerg.Viviath
Chuck Norris wouldn't die; nor would the zerg kill him. They'd turn him into, "Infested Chuck Norris". And then he'd own all.

The level of pwnage that would eminate from a Zerg infested Chuck Norris is beyond comprehension!

He could explode without dying. Total. Ownage.
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#179 Viviath
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[QUOTE="Viviath"][QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="Viviath"]I thought this was fact already...Zergs pwn all! not even chuck norris can take on the zerg.mythrol
Chuck Norris wouldn't die; nor would the zerg kill him. They'd turn him into, "Infested Chuck Norris". And then he'd own all.

The level of pwnage that would eminate from a Zerg infested Chuck Norris is beyond comprehension!

He could explode without dying. Total. Ownage.

oh man I lol'ed :lol:
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[QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"]what / who the hell are the Zergs ? PowerCharged
and you call yourself a gamer:lol: those bad dudes from starcraft, even a mute dud could tell you that.

starcraft sucks rather much
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#181 reticulate
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Zerg.

I hated them, but mostly because they kicked my ass.
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#182 Stig-FTW
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Who voted for the Chimeras? =S
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#183 DA_B0MB
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Zerg>>>>>>>>>>ALL
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#184 Spartan070
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It would be a draw. The flood cannot die yet they are incapable of defeating the superior zerg. The chimera? They just get pwned.:P
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#185 MgamerBD
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How is the Zerg winning? The flood will kick their buts with energy swords and rocket launchers.
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#186 SOedipus
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what / who the hell are the Zergs ? Thug_Pikachu
how am i supposed to respond to a post like that?
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#187 MgamerBD
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Zerg>>>>>>>>>>ALLDA_B0MB

No, Flood >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>All

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#188 fatzombiepigeon
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Flood.
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the zerg
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#190 BrownWalrus
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Zerg. Ugh the memories of the old Starcraft days...must....resist....reinstalling.

Why doesn't Blizzard just make SC2 already! Diablo III!!! Please, Anything!
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#191 Redmoonxl2
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Zerg.

- Can evolve into multiple forms on the fly to fit their battle situation. The Flood's only offensive ability is to infect and control.

- The Zerg is ruled by multiple Overminds/Celebrates that cannot die. The Flood is controlled by the Gravemind. Kill the Gravemind, kill the Flood.

- The Zerg has absolute control of it's infected victims and can mold that victim as they see fit (Kerrigan, a number of Protoss, Terran). The Flood's controlling methods can be ignored/avoided (See Captain Keyes). Also, The Zerg's ability to absorb information is better than the Flood, proof being that Kerrigan is a powerful psychic and got overwhelemed while Keyes was just a human who still ignored the Flood.

- The Zerg has battle experience as a result of fighting both the Terran and the Protoss, who are more powerful than the Covenant and the UNSC. Wanna know why the Flood seem all powerful? They have to fight weaklings.

- The Zerg ended up conquering the Universe. The Flood is still restricted to Halos. Seems like killing off Halos doesn't leave much for survivors Flood wise.

- The Zerg can travel and fight effortlessly in Space. The Flood is restricted to the ground unless otherwise.

- Only one way to kill an Overmind: Dark Templar energy. Seems like blowing up a Halo or even shooting at a Flood does the trick.

- The Chimera.....can make finger paintings.
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#192 Spartan070
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^ Gravemind cannot die. ^

Also the flood are not restricted to the Halos, they were trapped there, or contained there, by the forerunners.

Still, draw, unless the Zerg are willing to wait the thousands of years it takes the Flood to starve.

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#193 klabut
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The flood but how can you forget the Covenant?
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#194 Redmoonxl2
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^ Gravemind cannot die. ^

Also the flood are not restricted to the Halos, they were trapped there, or contained there, by the forerunners.

Still, draw, unless the Zerg are willing to wait the thousands of years it takes the Flood to starve.

Spartan070


Reasons? Even if that's the case, it's still a life form that can be controlled by the Zerg in the long run.

Also, being trapped there, that means even the Protoss can beat the Flood. They basically run around on Death Star like weaponry. Just nuke from afar and watch the fireworks.
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#195 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]^ Gravemind cannont die. ^Redmoonxl2


Reasons? Even if that's the case, it's still a life form that can be controlled by the Zerg in the long run.

Yes, see my edit. I'm not implying that the Flood can beat the Zerg, I'm saying that it would be a draw.
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#196 Shadow_op
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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"]what / who the hell are the Zergs ? Thug_Pikachu


That is what Zerg are.

The Locust would own those

ummm....that last one would own a Berserker and a Corpser at once.
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#197 klabut
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[QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"]what / who the hell are the Zergs ? Shadow_op


That is what Zerg are.

The Locust would own those

ummm....that last one would own a Berserker and a Corpser at once.

Not sure but Raam could probably win.
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#198 Redmoonxl2
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[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]^ Gravemind cannont die. ^Spartan070


Reasons? Even if that's the case, it's still a life form that can be controlled by the Zerg in the long run.

Yes, see my edit. I'm not implying that the Flood can beat the Zerg, I'm saying that it would be a draw.



Read my edit. If the Flood are stuck on Halos, that means even the Protoss can nuke them back to hell.
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#199 mythrol
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[QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"]what / who the hell are the Zergs ? supermechakirby
and you call yourself a gamer:lol: those bad dudes from starcraft, even a mute dud could tell you that.

starcraft sucks rather much

That statement just made God kill a kitten.
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#200 zeonne
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well i never played through starcrafts single player mode( it bored the hell outta me, i just liked playing with friends) but a chimeran spire can pretty much wipe out anything....humans and even with all their weapons are completely powerless against the aliens that come from a spire......and the chimera have the insanely powerful weavers and stalkers so id say the chimera
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