The GameInformer Halo: Reach Screens *56k Insert Witty Saying Here*

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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]link from kotaku?

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So where did all the reports that said it was using the x-engine or whatever come from?

Halo fanboys drunk on their own stupidity?

This X-engine needs to be implemented as soon as possible. MS need to make a game that just looks spectacular. It will draw in a lot of the more casual gamers. Not Wii type gamers, i mean people who play games casually.

I'm pretty sure "reputable" news sources were saying it would be the first game to use the engine.

How do we decide what game is worthy "Console graphics king"?

UC2 and KZ2 are both very polished games with very high production values but are they really technically impressive games? I think not.

To crown a console graphics king you have to look at the whole picture not only the small selected parts that conveniently look good to you.

Zoom in on a few rock textures in KZ2 and compare the rock textures to those in another game, and the game with the best textures is the winner right? No!

So what about UC2 and KZ2, and I want the Cows to tell me why they think these two games are worthy console graphics king. Corridor games, linear (less to render), scripted physics, fake shadows and lightning, 2D skybox, limited interaction and limited animated objects on screen.

Do these two games really sound like console graphics kings to you? If you have to sacrifice and cut out 90% of the technical features just to get a few nice models on screen, is it worth it? UC2 might fool the new-comer but veteran gamers will look deeper and see all the things that are missing.

Is reach the new console graphics king, maybe. Untill I see the finnishes product it is very hard to estimate how taxating this game really is.

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How do we decide what game is worthy "Console graphics king"?

UC2 and KZ2 are both very polished games with very high production values but are they really technically impressive games? I think not.

To crown a console graphics king you have to look at the whole picture not only the small selected parts that conveniently look good to you.

Zoom in on a few rock textures in KZ2 and compare the rock textures to those in another game, and the game with the best textures is the winner right? No!

So what about UC2 and KZ2, and I want the Cows to tell me why they think these two games are worthy console graphics king. Corridor games, linear (less to render), scripted physics, fake shadows and lightning, 2D skybox, limited interaction and limited animated objects on screen.

Do these two games really sound like console graphics kings to you? If you have to sacrifice and cut out 90% of the technical features just to get a few nice models on screen, is it worth it? UC2 might fool the new-comer but veteran gamers will look deeper and see all the things that are missing.

Is reach the new console graphics king, maybe. Untill I see the finnishes product it is very hard to estimate how taxating this game really is.

fireballonfire

Uncharted 2 may be linear, but it really does do some impressive things, major props to Naughtydog (my favorite video-game company since the PS1). Reach hasn't come out, and we haven't seen any gameplay video's of it, so we shouldn't mention it as console graphic king.

An impressive game on consoles is Assassins Creed 2 however. Tons of AI on-screen, good graphics, draw distance, open world, etc. But, we shouldn't even have a "console" graphics king, whats the point of that? So cows and lems can bicker? Please.

[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="delta3074"]i already stated in one of my earlier replys to you that halo reach did not look as good as killzone 2 or UC2, but it definitly looks better tha MAGdelta3074

the gameplay king goes to MGS4 10 >>>9.5 so ps3 got that covered too

How do we even compare games in terms of graphics? There are too many variables involved, it just can't be done. Can we say that this game looks good, yes. Can we say this game is a technical feat, yes. Can we say that we prefere the graphics of one game over another, yes.

Play and enjoy your games. There is nothing wrong with thinking the game of your choice is the best looking game. But remember everybody has their own opinion about the matter, respect that.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] KZ2 and UC2 look like that because they are linear/ corridor levels games.drakecool1

the gameplay king goes to MGS4 10 >>>9.5 so ps3 got that covered too

Was the game a 10 to you, good! Because that is all that should matter. It sure wasn't a 10 to me BTW. If a PC SIM game gets a 10, wouldn't mean a sheisse to me I wouldn't touch it with a pole anyway, so much for numbers.

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[QUOTE="delta3074"]cows should be grateful then, if Halo reach was a a linear/corridor game it would probably blow UC2 and killzone 2 out of the water in graphics, just as well we are not all graphics ****** here on GS, they can keep there graphics kings, this game is going to be the gameplay king, and REACH has a quality that no PS3 game ever has,staying power, i know which game the most people will still be playing online 3 years from now, and it won't be MAG.fireballonfire

the gameplay king goes to MGS4 10 >>>9.5 so ps3 got that covered too

Was the game a 10 to you, good! Because that is all that should matter. It sure wasn't a 10 to me BTW. If a PC SIM game gets a 10, wouldn't mean a sheisse to me I wouldn't touch it with a pole anyway, so much for numbers.

thats the thing mgs4 wasnt just a 10 to me but loads of sites and people and numerous goty awards

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the gameplay king goes to MGS4 10 >>>9.5 so ps3 got that covered too

drakecool1

Was the game a 10 to you, good! Because that is all that should matter. It sure wasn't a 10 to me BTW. If a PC SIM game gets a 10, wouldn't mean a sheisse to me I wouldn't touch it with a pole anyway, so much for numbers.

thats the thing mgs4 wasnt just a 10 to me but loads of sites and people and numerous goty awards

Halo 3 has an equivalent average score as MGS 4 so really they are both equal

wow, that looks nothing like the trailer. Looks like Halo ODST.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=40684882

The screens are not even alpha stage yet and are from before Thanksgiving. The cinemtaic is still what they are saying what it is going to look like.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=40684882

The screens are not even alpha stage yet and are from before Thanksgiving. The cinemtaic is still what they are saying what it is going to look like.

BlizzardBear

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I hope that's not true. I'm losing confidence in MS' ambition.

So was the Halo 3 engine and it didn't look too different to Halo 2.

Well that's great news, maybe MS do still care about this console race. Pre-Alpha pictures too no less. I guess the BETA is some way off ... tsk tsk.

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Haters seem to forget that the guys from UK Edge magazing (who actually played the demo) said in their 8 page preview that the game looks absolutely fantastic.

FIipMode

Not at all. I dont think at this stage the game looks like a graphics king aswell. At least going by those pics. Still some ppl here seems to only care about it. They come here and all they say is that it looks like crap, 360 owners got owned, etc

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http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=40684882

The screens are not even alpha stage yet and are from before Thanksgiving. The cinemtaic is still what they are saying what it is going to look like.

mitu123

If those photos are just not even alpha stage yet then i can't imagine how it will look at the and.....maybe not the same like U2,because it is a open FPS,but i am sure at the end it will look like the trailer and a lot better than KZ2.

............they are not even alpha stage yet and already look very good and better than Halo 3.

wow the lightings amazing it just like im staring into the sun, serisously tone it down its got too much god damn glare off every god damn visor and piece of metal.

Screens from Halo 3/ODST looked goood too...till i saw the game in motion.

This game will never look better than the all mighty UC2. Nor will it have rope bridges and a wacky wisecracking protagonist like the scruffily lovable Nathan Drake. Halo needs more 5-o'clock shadow and hair gel to compete on that level!

I'll eat my hat if this game ends up looking better than Killzone 2. I highly doubt it will, but hey, I might get surprised.II_Seraphim_II

Panosola

Anyone else noticed that these shots have been sharpened along with the contrast being changed?... :|

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Too_tight_shoes

Anyone else noticed that these shots have been sharpened along with the contrast being changed?... :|

Where are the images we're comparing them to?

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Anyone else noticed that these shots have been sharpened along with the contrast being changed?... :|

Where are the images we're comparing them to?

Somewhere along the way someone has sharpened and fiddled with the contrast of the original leaked images.

I doubt it. I think the original posting of the pictures might have just been at a lower quality. But if you're right, then we could be talking about a conspiracy that's so big, bigger than you and me and everybody here, that it could mean the end of videogames as we know it. Watch your back.

Somewhere along the way someone has sharpened and fiddled with the contrast of the original leaked images.

Too_tight_shoes

I doubt it. I think the original posting of the pictures might have just been at a lower quality. But if you're right, then we could be talking about a conspiracy that's so big, bigger than you and me and everybody here, that it could mean the end of videogames as we know it. Watch your back.

MangaJ

Somewhere along the way someone has sharpened and fiddled with the contrast of the original leaked images.

Too_tight_shoes

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]I'll eat my hat if this game ends up looking better than Killzone 2. I highly doubt it will, but hey, I might get surprised.SecretPolice

:lol:

Mine is a leather hat...should make a good stew :P

So, if somebody can actually enhance an image like that in private, why wouldn't the developers be able to just enhance the graphics like that with all their equipment and skill?

Somewhere along the way someone has sharpened and fiddled with the contrast of the original leaked images.

So, if somebody can actually enhance an image like that in private, why wouldn't the developers be able to just enhance the graphics like that with all their equipment and skill?

MangaJ

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So, if somebody can actually enhance an image like that in private, why wouldn't the developers be able to just enhance the graphics like that with all their equipment and skill?

mayceV

No, I mean why wouldn't the developers just enhance the graphics like that in the actual gamem you know? Surely they could fiddle with contrast and sharpness for the ingame graphics.

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So, if somebody can actually enhance an image like that in private, why wouldn't the developers be able to just enhance the graphics like that with all their equipment and skill?

MangaJ

No, I mean why wouldn't the developers just enhance the graphics like that in the actual gamem you know? Surely they could fiddle with contrast and sharpness for the ingame graphics.

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[QUOTE="mayceV"] because when the game comes out, people would find out and it would be called a scandle and the person/studio doing it would look like a giant pile of poop.II_Seraphim_II

No, I mean why wouldn't the developers just enhance the graphics like that in the actual gamem you know? Surely they could fiddle with contrast and sharpness for the ingame graphics.

I don't know. I think people underestimate how powerful these consoles are. Look at the Bad Company 2 footage. It's a totally open world game and the graphics are beautiful. In fact, it's at the top of my list for probable GOTYs, but that's neither here nor there.

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[QUOTE="mayceV"] because when the game comes out, people would find out and it would be called a scandle and the person/studio doing it would look like a giant pile of poop.II_Seraphim_II

No, I mean why wouldn't the developers just enhance the graphics like that in the actual gamem you know? Surely they could fiddle with contrast and sharpness for the ingame graphics.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="MangaJ"]

No, I mean why wouldn't the developers just enhance the graphics like that in the actual gamem you know? Surely they could fiddle with contrast and sharpness for the ingame graphics.

MangaJ

I don't know. I think people underestimate how powerful these consoles are. Look at the Bad Company 2 footage. It's a totally open world game and the graphics are beautiful. In fact, it's at the top of my list for probable GOTYs, but that's neither here nor there.

[QUOTE="Too_tight_shoes"] lol, thats a pretty trashy thing to do. [QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]I'll eat my hat if this game ends up looking better than Killzone 2. I highly doubt it will, but hey, I might get surprised.II_Seraphim_II

:lol:

Mine is a leather hat...should make a good stew :P

These are tasty or so I hear. :o

Ya know I'm soo just playin around okay.. :)

Well that's great news, maybe MS do still care about this console race. Pre-Alpha pictures too no less. I guess the BETA is some way off ... tsk tsk.

Stats_

Well these screens are from before thanksgiving so who's to say how much progress has been made since then.

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http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=40684882

The screens are not even alpha stage yet and are from before Thanksgiving. The cinemtaic is still what they are saying what it is going to look like.

Panosola

If those photos are just not even alpha stage yet then i can't imagine how it will look at the and.....maybe not the same like U2,because it is a open FPS,but i am sure at the end it will look like the trailer and a lot better than KZ2.

............they are not even alpha stage yet and already look very good and better than Halo 3.