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What's going on in this thread? :?II_Seraphim_IILots of arguing, but it seems Halo: Reach is looking good IMO.
[QUOTE="Drakes_Fortune"]Wow, i didnt tought it was going to look good, but i certanly didnt tought it was gonna look that bad. :O . Of the upcoming games its probably the one that looks worst. It almost looks like Ps2.TessellationThis game has twice the things on screen than your precious UC2,it has twice the world ( OPEN WORLD,not a linear corridor levels like UC2) don't get proven wrong when the game comes outs,still has lot of time for polish and we don't know how old are these screens ;).
Evidently you haven't seen this so I'll go ahead and forward it to you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIhuf0lv49A
Judging from those screens I'd say it looks more impressive than UC2 or KZ2. The graphics look solid and tight with nothing to hide.
Just what the hell is this vehicle doing here?! It's totally out of place....much like the Warthog vehicles in the previous games. I want vehicles with some goddamn imagination! Same thing goes with the Mjollnir armor and a number of the alien species. Halo games are great quality, but from a design standpoint it's like "wtf were they thinking??!"
Graphics look really outdated and not much better than Haze.
I like the way they have redesigned/updated the characters.
I don't think the Lemmings ever expected a graphics king, exceeding Crysis is impossible on consoles. At least they got a game rivaling the best on the PS3.
ok Gears 2 - crossed out
Lost Planet 2- crossed out
Mass Effect 2 - crossed out
and now Halo Reach - crossed out
so lemmings what game are you predicting now that halo reach is out to be graphic king ????
It *might* have a lot of things going on, but it's certainly not as good looking as KZ2/Uncharted 2. Not from those pics atleast. It might look better when it's actually released. Now, I'm not bashing the game (they're all good, atleast the first 3) and it is looking nice - just so we're clear.Those screens look awesome, looks tons better than uncharted 2 imo.
Espada12
I don't think the Lemmings ever expected a graphics king, exceeding Crysis is impossible on consoles. At least they got a game rivaling the best on the PS3.
fireballonfire
Im not sure i can....
Aaah now i see it.
KZ2 has good animations I'll give it that.But the rest meh. Think of PS3 graphics as paper-graphics. They are thin and very fragile. Blurr effects to cover up, fake physics, 2D skyboxes, fake shadows, limited areas etc.
[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]
I don't think the Lemmings ever expected a graphics king, exceeding Crysis is impossible on consoles. At least they got a game rivaling the best on the PS3.
lucky_star
Im not sure i can....
Aaah now i see it.
wow he actually believes that reach looks better than killzone 2 that's like saying et for atari looks better than super mario world
>vs. Bungie's Target Render:
After_Math
Dont understand why all those people are crying about....it actually allready looks better than on December trailer. The spartan seems to be more detailed....armor isnt that smooth anymore, its having more scratches. Same for the groud textures which are more detailed than on trailer.
So theres allready improvement.
[QUOTE="lucky_star"]
[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]
I don't think the Lemmings ever expected a graphics king, exceeding Crysis is impossible on consoles. At least they got a game rivaling the best on the PS3.
drakecool1
Im not sure i can....
Aaah now i see it.
wow he actuaqlly believes thaqt reach looks better than killzone 2 that's like saying et for atari looks better than super mario world
Are you nervous? What's up with you?
what was all that propaganda about?? a new costum engine built from the ground up for the x360, right??? was that what the lemmings were claiming??? Halo reach graphics king, huh ???? is that the best the x360can do???
anyway, i love the character model and their design, it's very iconic to Halo games.
[QUOTE="Espada12"]
Those screens look awesome, looks tons better than uncharted 2 imo.
Wassmansdorff
Turn on your monitor.
What are you saying?
what was all that propaganda about?? a new costum engine built from the ground up for the x360, right??? was that what the lemmings were claiming??? Halo reach graphics king, huh ???? is that the best the x360can do???
anyway, i love the character model and their design, it's very iconic to Halo games.
2mrw
maybe they will have better luck with Halo 4
(cough on Xbox 720 Cough)
Damage control much? Fake physics? Like what? Like the train level in KZ2? Fake shadows? Like the sadows shown by using the flashlight with your shotgun in KZ2? Or the sahdows casted from muzzle flash? Lets not even bring up U2 because it will destroy you. Blurr effects looks like it gets the job done then, it still looks better. Limited areas? So is this a open world game like Crysis?KZ2 has good animations I'll give it that.But the rest meh. Think of PS3 graphics as paper-graphics. They are thin and very fragile. Blurr effects to cover up, fake physics, 2D skyboxes, fake shadows, limited areas etc.
fireballonfire
Well reach certainly looks better than GOW3 which some fools seem to be hyping for its graphicsSpanks113
You can't be serious. Just can't.
[QUOTE="Spanks113"]Well reach certainly looks better than GOW3 which some fools seem to be hyping for its graphicsWassmansdorff
You can't be serious. Just can't.
Yes i am GOW3 textures for environment look like garbage. Charater models look okay but nothing to go crazy over.[QUOTE="Spanks113"]Well reach certainly looks better than GOW3 which some fools seem to be hyping for its graphicsWassmansdorff
You can't be serious. Just can't.
ive seen this before they have a rare case of damage control they have been so long without any game which graphic stand out and are so eagerly looking to top PS3 games that they go into serious denial.
There will never be consensus regarding console graphics king. Cows will say UC2 and KZ2 because they own a PS3. Lemmings will say Reach, Alan Wake and Crysis 2. Let's have a PS3 graphics king and a 360 graphics king and everyone will be happy.
I don't know if Reach will be better looking than KZ2 or UC2. But I have played games long enough to know that the graphics of those two games are nothing special.Besidesgood animation what do they have, smoke and mirrors perhaps?
[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]Old but still look nice.urdead18Really? For a game coming out in 2010 that's claiming to be as graphically impressive as Killzone 2 it really looks disapointing, even to a hardcore lemming.
Which 5 year old on System Wars told you it was going to be as graphically impressive as Killzone 2 ?
Really? For a game coming out in 2010 that's claiming to be as graphically impressive as Killzone 2 it really looks disapointing, even to a hardcore lemming.[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]Old but still look nice.AdjacentLives
Which 5 year old on System Wars told you it was going to be as graphically impressive as Killzone 2 ?
If I remember correctly a microsoft dev said they were building a new engine to rival Killzone 2
[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]Damage control much? Fake physics? Like what? Like the train level in KZ2? Fake shadows? Like the sadows shown by using the flashlight with your shotgun in KZ2? Or the sahdows casted from muzzle flash? Lets not even bring up U2 because it will destroy you. Blurr effects looks like it gets the job done then, it still looks better. Limited areas? So is this a open world game like Crysis?KZ2 has good animations I'll give it that.But the rest meh. Think of PS3 graphics as paper-graphics. They are thin and very fragile. Blurr effects to cover up, fake physics, 2D skyboxes, fake shadows, limited areas etc.
lucky_star
Fake physics as in scripted physics.
Do all the objects in KZ2 cast a proper shadow, no. Fake lightning also comes as a bonus.
UC2 destroy me, I don't see how. Everything in the game is indestructible (it can't destory anything unless scripted). Interactivity is limited and scripted. Linear, low amount of animted objects on screen. Fake Skybox (2D). Nothing impressive about that.
Damage control much? Fake physics? Like what? Like the train level in KZ2? Fake shadows? Like the sadows shown by using the flashlight with your shotgun in KZ2? Or the sahdows casted from muzzle flash? Lets not even bring up U2 because it will destroy you. Blurr effects looks like it gets the job done then, it still looks better. Limited areas? So is this a open world game like Crysis?[QUOTE="lucky_star"][QUOTE="fireballonfire"]
KZ2 has good animations I'll give it that.But the rest meh. Think of PS3 graphics as paper-graphics. They are thin and very fragile. Blurr effects to cover up, fake physics, 2D skyboxes, fake shadows, limited areas etc.
fireballonfire
Fake physics as in scripted physics.
Do all the objects in KZ2 cast a proper shadow, no. Fake lightning also comes as a bonus.
UC2 destroy me, I don't see how. Everything in the game is indestructible (it can't destory anything unless scripted). Interactivity is limited and scripted. Linear, low amount of animted objects on screen. Fake Skybox (2D). Nothing impressive about that.
SHame that's all pretty useless, and no one really gives..
Call me a dreamer John. But wouldn't it be the ideal situation if everybody spend more time being happy with what they have than worrying about what they don't?
If you are a Cow and believes that UC2 is the best piece of software ever written in terms ofgraphics, it's ok. But many of you are just trying to hard to down play anything thatappears threatning to your perfect little gaming world.
Well, if you're aiming for such a large scope you can't do much better than that. Killzone 2 looks better, but that game doesn't have any vehicles or especially large maps either.
Considering the game will have large environments, i think it looks good visually... No console graphics king for sure but hey why must every game coming out have to be the next 'console' graphics king to be even considered a great title..
Looking forward to Reach :)
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