The New Tactic: "PC Gaming is represented by Facebook"

Simple question: in your minds does Facebook gaming == PC gaming?

In other words, when an swarrior mentions PC gaming, do you believe that "hermit" is suggesting Facebook/Farmville as representative of PC gaming?

Console gaming these days is much better, they are represented by kinect and move. Gotta get my motion on while I play all those hardcore titles like kinect sports and sports champion.

its just a tactic used by trolls, how many facebook games are counted for pc in the official spreadsheet?

Console gaming these days is much better, they are represented by kinect and move. Gotta get my motion on while I play all those hardcore titles like kinect sports and sports champion.

Espada12

PC gaming is represented by $4,000 machines when console gamers talk cost and value.

PC gaming is represented by Facebook and Zynga when console gamers talk about games.

PC gaming is represented by piracy when console gamers talk about sales.

PC gaming is represented by multi-million dollar earning MMO's when console gamers talk about the "lack" of PC games.

PC gaming's representation changes depending on the argument console gamers are trying to make.

Just post a picture of the kinect with a link to the sales, and that will be the end of that.

It's a trolls last resort when they run out of ammunition.

Casual

or Hardcore

Pick and choose. PC gaming has both.

just like console gaming is represented by your *wife* and the casual gamers right tc?

It's part of it, but is Facebook the definition of what a PC is in general? No. Is it a popular sight on the web which you can access with a myriad of devices? Yes.
Can't you play all those games on mobile devices?

How is Facebook gameing not PC gaming?

its just a tactic used by trolls, how many facebook games are counted for pc in the official spreadsheet?

Jankarcop

PC gaming is represented by $4,000 machines when console gamers talk cost and value.

PC gaming is represented by Facebook and Zynga when console gamers talk about games.

PC gaming is represented by piracy when console gamers talk about sales.

PC gaming is represented by multi-million dollar earning MMO's when console gamers talk about the "lack" of PC games.

PC gaming's representation changes depending on the argument console gamers are trying to make.

XaosII

Just post a picture of the kinect with a link to the sales, and that will be the end of that.

topgunmv

Most console gamers lack a fundamental understanding of what PC gaming is, nor try to acquire a representative one. So they grab whatever representation that aids them in bashing PC, like FaceBook games, and try to paint the whole platform as being that. They also have the console product mentality, and so try to apply that to PC; in their efforts to define what PC is.

PC isn't a closed platform, anyone can develop and sell products on it. There is no guiding hand like a 1st party, dictating what they want the platform to be.

So PC is Facebook gaming. But it is also niche gaming, hardcore gaming, mainstream and casual gaming. It is the McDonald's of gaming, and the fine dining.

It's all the above, from Farmville to Flight Simulator. To try to classify it as any one thing is to impose your views on a platform that encompasses a international community of businesses, all of which represent different interests; and sell on a platform they all helped build.

Simple question: in your minds does Facebook gaming == PC gaming?

In other words, when an swarrior mentions PC gaming, do you believe that "hermit" is suggesting Facebook/Farmville as representative of PC gaming?

haberman13

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Just post a picture of the kinect with a link to the sales, and that will be the end of that.

WilliamRLBaker

You mean the chart that says 75% of console "sales" are rentals/used games? Sure, link it.

Most console gamers lack a fundamental understanding of what PC gaming is, nor try to acquire a representative one. So they grab whatever representation that aids them in bashing PC, like FaceBook games, and try to paint the whole platform as being that. They also have the console product mentality, and so try to apply that to PC; in their efforts to define what PC is.

PC isn't a closed platform, anyone can develop and sell products on it. There is no guiding hand like a 1st party, dictating what they want the platform to be.

So PC is Facebook gaming. But it is also niche gaming, hardcore gaming, mainstream and casual gaming. It is the McDonald's of gaming, and the fine dining.

It's all the above, from Farmville to Flight Simulator. To try to classify it as any one thing is to impose your views on a platform that encompasses a international community of businesses, all of which represent different interests; and sell on a platform they all helped build.

AnnoyedDragon

Hermits + the biggest social network = oxymoron.

It should have ended there. If anyone thinks he can argue he's obviously completely clueless about PC gaming.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Most console gamers lack a fundamental understanding of what PC gaming is, nor try to acquire a representative one. So they grab whatever representation that aids them in bashing PC, like FaceBook games, and try to paint the whole platform as being that. They also have the console product mentality, and so try to apply that to PC; in their efforts to define what PC is.

PC isn't a closed platform, anyone can develop and sell products on it. There is no guiding hand like a 1st party, dictating what they want the platform to be.

So PC is Facebook gaming. But it is also niche gaming, hardcore gaming, mainstream and casual gaming. It is the McDonald's of gaming, and the fine dining.

It's all the above, from Farmville to Flight Simulator. To try to classify it as any one thing is to impose your views on a platform that encompasses a international community of businesses, all of which represent different interests; and sell on a platform they all helped build.

Ravensmash

Consoles are what their OEM wants them to be. Not what YOU want them to be. That's the point behind his whole post :|

But it's also fair to argue that consoles cater to all of those categories too, right?Ravensmash

PS3 is Sony, Wii is Nintendo, Xbox 360 is Microsoft.

PC is a collective, the sum of its parts. Consoles are very different in that regard, and dictate/filter what happens on their platform.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Most console gamers lack a fundamental understanding of what PC gaming is, nor try to acquire a representative one. So they grab whatever representation that aids them in bashing PC, like FaceBook games, and try to paint the whole platform as being that. They also have the console product mentality, and so try to apply that to PC; in their efforts to define what PC is.

PC isn't a closed platform, anyone can develop and sell products on it. There is no guiding hand like a 1st party, dictating what they want the platform to be.

So PC is Facebook gaming. But it is also niche gaming, hardcore gaming, mainstream and casual gaming. It is the McDonald's of gaming, and the fine dining.

It's all the above, from Farmville to Flight Simulator. To try to classify it as any one thing is to impose your views on a platform that encompasses a international community of businesses, all of which represent different interests; and sell on a platform they all helped build.

Ravensmash

A PC is not necessarily grounded in Windows or x86. Yes, it is the defacto standard, but not the rule. Thanks to the mobile market we could see a shift to ARM or hybrid systems running x86 + ARM in parallel, especially as Nvidia is investing in ARM processing tech to include in their ecosystem. We could literally see OSs run off their graphics cards.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Just post a picture of the kinect with a link to the sales, and that will be the end of that.

WilliamRLBaker

That chart also says that direct download and retail pc sales destroy any single console in sales, with over half of all th console sales combined.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Most console gamers lack a fundamental understanding of what PC gaming is, nor try to acquire a representative one. So they grab whatever representation that aids them in bashing PC, like FaceBook games, and try to paint the whole platform as being that. They also have the console product mentality, and so try to apply that to PC; in their efforts to define what PC is.

PC isn't a closed platform, anyone can develop and sell products on it. There is no guiding hand like a 1st party, dictating what they want the platform to be.

So PC is Facebook gaming. But it is also niche gaming, hardcore gaming, mainstream and casual gaming. It is the McDonald's of gaming, and the fine dining.

It's all the above, from Farmville to Flight Simulator. To try to classify it as any one thing is to impose your views on a platform that encompasses a international community of businesses, all of which represent different interests; and sell on a platform they all helped build.

N30F3N1X

Consoles are what their OEM wants them to be. Not what YOU want them to be. That's the point behind his whole post :|

Get over it TC, you deserved the reaction by saying Consoles is for causuals and wives and the PC is only for hardcore when it has Farmville, Wow and Sims -.-'

Hopefully in a few years, the console indie scene will develop further like with XBL.Ravensmash

The indie community needs an open platform to properly evolve. In many cases indie games start as mods for other games.

Most console gamers lack a fundamental understanding of what PC gaming is, nor try to acquire a representative one. So they grab whatever representation that aids them in bashing PC, like FaceBook games, and try to paint the whole platform as being that. They also have the console product mentality, and so try to apply that to PC; in their efforts to define what PC is.

PC isn't a closed platform, anyone can develop and sell products on it. There is no guiding hand like a 1st party, dictating what they want the platform to be.

So PC is Facebook gaming. But it is also niche gaming, hardcore gaming, mainstream and casual gaming. It is the McDonald's of gaming, and the fine dining.

It's all the above, from Farmville to Flight Simulator. To try to ****fy it as any one thing is to impose your views on a platform that encompasses a international community of businesses, all of which represent different interests; and sell on a platform they all helped build.

AnnoyedDragon

Most Hermits lack the fundamental understanding of Console gaming and since they do not try to acquire a representative one they grab for any thing to talk about How superior PC gaming is how its obviously superior, how all games on it are superior, How its users are superior then 5 minutes later turn around and talk about how console gaming the obviously inferior arena is some how ruining PC gaming.

In a mad dash to prove them selves and their area of gaming they pull out pie graphs that show Tablet gaming, iphones, Facebook and mmo's make up near to or over half of their money making market...when taken to task for this when they try to claim console gaming is only good for casuals and wives they try to say but casual gaming, and soccer mom games do not represent PC gaming...Oddly when it comes to proving PC gaming is making enough money or is bigger then console gaming such areas of their market are good enough but when it comes to actually representing where a multitude of developers, and where a multitude of users in their camp are at orturning towards they completely and utterly deny it and try to say that these genres are just small portions of PC gaming...

Remember folks Only pc gaming is niche gaming, Casual gaming, Mainstream gaming, Console gaming is not...though these definitions has been used many times by hermits to cIassify console gaming...no niche games too many mainstream and casual games, No main stream games too many casual games, whats up with all these crappy niche console games??...etc...etc

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Hopefully in a few years, the console indie scene will develop further like with XBL.edidili

The indie community needs an open platform to properly evolve. In many cases indie games start as mods for other games.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Just post a picture of the kinect with a link to the sales, and that will be the end of that.

cain006

That chart also says that direct download and retail pc sales destroy any single console in sales, with over half of all th console sales combined.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Hopefully in a few years, the console indie scene will develop further like with XBL.edidili

The indie community needs an open platform to properly evolve. In many cases indie games start as mods for other games.

/end thread.RyuRanVII

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] Just post a link to the pie charts hermits have used recently where facebook gaming and mmo's and cell phone/tablet games have become dominate just so they could prove PC gaming is bigger and or made more money.

WilliamRLBaker

That chart also says that direct download and retail pc sales destroy any single console in sales, with over half of all th console sales combined.

Really now? Then let´s looks at the chart:

So,even if we take out casual game portals and the social networks that you metioned so much,the PC gaming slices have 30%(MMO´s,Retail and download) against the 43 % of all consoles together. So,no single console alone does 30%...and this is with the PC side being gimped by not including social networks and casual gaming portals,bevause those 43% of the consoles include all the casual stuff as well...

And let´s not forget that this is only for the US,a market that surely isn´t the PC´s strongest.

So please,stop saying the usual b******t you always do,you only make yourself look bad.

Simple question: in your minds does Facebook gaming == PC gaming?

In other words, when an swarrior mentions PC gaming, do you believe that "hermit" is suggesting Facebook/Farmville as representative of PC gaming?

haberman13

Are you serious? You went and made a thread about this? You are full of fail today bro.

I've only really seen it referred to when PC gamers are playing fanboy wars, pretending that casual gamers don't play on PC, but rather only the most godly knowledgable people who have seen the light.

it doesnt represent PC gaming. thats absurd

however, its fun to point out that facebook games are some of the most played PC games whenever certain PC elitists try to call all consoles "casual."

The most annoying thing is that it's always Farmville that is referred to in these arguments.

Cityville is more popular nowadays. You consolites need to get with the times.

Simple question: in your minds does Facebook gaming == PC gaming?

In other words, when an swarrior mentions PC gaming, do you believe that "hermit" is suggesting Facebook/Farmville as representative of PC gaming?

haberman13

Of course not. PC gaming offers something for all levels of gamer....just like consoles.

You just seem to be using your own anecdotal information with your wife and trying to create a broad, all-inclusive generalization about consoles (see your other thread).

That type of mentality is pretty common here on System Wars, so you're fitting right in. Congrats.

Out in the real world, being a reductionist isn't going to get you anywhere with reasonable people.

it doesnt represent PC gaming. thats absurd

however, its fun to point out that facebook games are some of the most played PC games whenever certain PC elitists try to call all consoles "casual."

arbitor365

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

it doesnt represent PC gaming. thats absurd

however, its fun to point out that facebook games are some of the most played PC games whenever certain PC elitists try to call all consoles "casual."

Arach666

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

it doesnt represent PC gaming. thats absurd

however, its fun to point out that facebook games are some of the most played PC games whenever certain PC elitists try to call all consoles "casual."

Arach666

i havent tried, but I doubt it would work on the PS3's web browser.