The NPD numbers are now official

[QUOTE="NotThat_basic"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="NotThat_basic"]Yes - and the novelty of a stylus is what's selling the DS... ...just wait till that has worn off... ...whenever THAT might be is anyone's guess! :lol:

The GCN was certainly not leading all consoles 4 months after launch - and you can take THAT to the bank.

Puckhog04

It's just an opinion...

I'm sorry if you disagree with it. GC was selling very well when it was released and did for the next few months. Maybe it didn't outsell the others but it was competing against the PS2...i mean, seriously. The games clearly aren't selling the Wii though...and you can take THAT to the bank. :|

My point is that the new way that Nintendo has found to play on a console is what is selling the console, not the games (which are very lacking at this point). IMO the Controller is kind of a gimmick, just as the tilt on the PS3's controller is a gimmick. If anything, the Wiimote is very well done and should be seen as much better than the PS3's for obvious reasons. I'm not stating the novelty will for sure wear off...but it's still a possibility that it does. I'm sorry you disagree and have to react the way you did.

And I'm sorry you took my reaction to indicate I was picking on you - but it's the same sorry tale I've heard a million times on this forum and so, I took a moment to address that. Is that alright that I disagree with your logic? Isn't that why we're all here in the first place?

The GCN was 3rd right out of the starting gate - I think in December of that year is managed to outsell the XBox by a a few thousand, but it then was relegated back to 3rd position from that point forward. There is no way, on God's green earth, that you can try and compare the two launches - it's ludicrous. It couldn't even outsell the higher priced XBox which was MS's first attempt at a videogame console!!!

The Wiimote is selling the system, this is obvious. But it is, in fact, GAMES that are also selling the system. What - do you think people buy their new system to park it under the TV and stare at the pretty blue light that comes on when it powers up??? And regardless on your opinion of the games - I happen to like many of the ones I've played so far. So, I guess that means I disagree with Jeff as well - shall we fight about that too?

In YOUR opinion, the Wiimote is a gimmick - and I happen to disagree. I offered the DS as proof that just because you THINK it's a gimmick, doesn't mean everyone agrees with you (myself, being one of them). Try not to be so defensive - this is a debate forum - expect people to want to debate with you... ...sometimes with the use of sarcasm! ;)

I was debating with you and i didn't think you were picking on me...(seriously, what is this? 8th grade?)

I just think that the primary reason for buying a Wii is to play Nintendo's new way of playing these games. Whether or not the games are good is a completely different story. The games that would be considered good are games that work very well with the Wiimote (notice how Zelda isn't really selling all that well...). This supports my theory even further. I do think the Wiimote is a sort of a gimmick in that Nintendo used it as a lure for younger players to get excited about it. Although it's used relatively well in most of the Wii's games, it's used horribly in some (Splinter Cell DA, Farcry, Red Steel, etc.). I do think the price point has a relevancy here as well. It'll be interesting to see if the Wii or the Xbox 360 sells more when/if the Core version of the 360 is scrapped and the Premium is then the $300 Xbox 360. While the scenario i just mentioned would put to rest the price argument, the Wiimote is still there. Whether it's a fad or novelty item to the public is yet to be seen. I don't presume to know the future simply based on the success of a handheld though.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="NotThat_basic"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

It's fairly obvious that the only thing selling the Wii at this point is the Wiimote and the novelty of it with certain games. It's obviously not the games that are selling the console...

When the novelty of the Wiimote has worn off expect the sales to lower a good amount. The GC had high sales at/around launch as well. When the novelty wears off is up in the air...it could be tomorrow or the end of the year or beyond...who knows.

Zhengi

Yes - and the novelty of a stylus is what's selling the DS... ...just wait till that has worn off... ...whenever THAT might be is anyone's guess! :lol:

The GCN was certainly not leading all consoles 4 months after launch - and you can take THAT to the bank.

It's just an opinion...

I'm sorry if you disagree with it. GC was selling very well when it was released and did for the next few months. Maybe it didn't outsell the others but it was competing against the PS2...i mean, seriously. The games clearly aren't selling the Wii though...and you can take THAT to the bank. :|

My point is that the new way that Nintendo has found to play on a console is what is selling the console, not the games (which are very lacking at this point). IMO the Controller is kind of a gimmick, just as the tilt on the PS3's controller is a gimmick. If anything, the Wiimote is very well done and should be seen as much better than the PS3's for obvious reasons. I'm not stating the novelty will for sure wear off...but it's still a possibility that it does. I'm sorry you disagree and have to react the way you did.

Are you going to argue that Wii Play and Warioware are system sellers? Sure, go for it. Look ridiculous. Call of Duty 3 for the Xbox 360 was in the top ten as well at some point, does that mean that that's a system seller as well? :roll:

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="NotThat_basic"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="NotThat_basic"]Yes - and the novelty of a stylus is what's selling the DS... ...just wait till that has worn off... ...whenever THAT might be is anyone's guess! :lol:

The GCN was certainly not leading all consoles 4 months after launch - and you can take THAT to the bank.

Zhengi

It's just an opinion...

I'm sorry if you disagree with it. GC was selling very well when it was released and did for the next few months. Maybe it didn't outsell the others but it was competing against the PS2...i mean, seriously. The games clearly aren't selling the Wii though...and you can take THAT to the bank. :|

My point is that the new way that Nintendo has found to play on a console is what is selling the console, not the games (which are very lacking at this point). IMO the Controller is kind of a gimmick, just as the tilt on the PS3's controller is a gimmick. If anything, the Wiimote is very well done and should be seen as much better than the PS3's for obvious reasons. I'm not stating the novelty will for sure wear off...but it's still a possibility that it does. I'm sorry you disagree and have to react the way you did.

And I'm sorry you took my reaction to indicate I was picking on you - but it's the same sorry tale I've heard a million times on this forum and so, I took a moment to address that. Is that alright that I disagree with your logic? Isn't that why we're all here in the first place?

The GCN was 3rd right out of the starting gate - I think in December of that year is managed to outsell the XBox by a a few thousand, but it then was relegated back to 3rd position from that point forward. There is no way, on God's green earth, that you can try and compare the two launches - it's ludicrous. It couldn't even outsell the higher priced XBox which was MS's first attempt at a videogame console!!!

The Wiimote is selling the system, this is obvious. But it is, in fact, GAMES that are also selling the system. What - do you think people buy their new system to park it under the TV and stare at the pretty blue light that comes on when it powers up??? And regardless on your opinion of the games - I happen to like many of the ones I've played so far. So, I guess that means I disagree with Jeff as well - shall we fight about that too?

In YOUR opinion, the Wiimote is a gimmick - and I happen to disagree. I offered the DS as proof that just because you THINK it's a gimmick, doesn't mean everyone agrees with you (myself, being one of them). Try not to be so defensive - this is a debate forum - expect people to want to debate with you... ...sometimes with the use of sarcasm! ;)

I was debating with you and i didn't think you were picking on me...(seriously, what is this? 8th grade?)

I just think that the primary reason for buying a Wii is to play Nintendo's new way of playing these games. Whether or not the games are good is a completely different story. The games that would be considered good are games that work very well with the Wiimote (notice how Zelda isn't really selling all that well...). This supports my theory even further. I do think the Wiimote is a sort of a gimmick in that Nintendo used it as a lure for younger players to get excited about it. Although it's used relatively well in most of the Wii's games, it's used horribly in some (Splinter Cell DA, Farcry, Red Steel, etc.). I do think the price point has a relevancy here as well. It'll be interesting to see if the Wii or the Xbox 360 sells more when/if the Core version of the 360 is scrapped and the Premium is then the $300 Xbox 360. While the scenario i just mentioned would put to rest the price argument, the Wiimote is still there. Whether it's a fad or novelty item to the public is yet to be seen. I don't presume to know the future simply based on the success of a handheld though.

You really feel the need to quote and reply to something that i posted nearly an hour ago? Go for it. I never said Zelda was selling horribly...i said it wasn't selling very well (in relation to it selling at launch). It's not selling near the amount that the games that take real advantage of the Wiimote are.

Are you going to argue that Wii Play and Warioware are system sellers? Sure, go for it. Look ridiculous. Call of Duty 3 for the Xbox 360 was in the top ten as well at some point, does that mean that that's a system seller as well? :roll:Puckhog04

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="Franco-J"][QUOTE="Bansheesdie"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]Well I can only wish you luck for one. So what will it be? Wii not selling well into 08 or The Raiders have a good season?Zhengi

It's fairly obvious that the only thing selling the Wii at this point is the Wiimote and the novelty of it with certain games. It's obviously not the games that are selling the console...

When the novelty of the Wiimote has worn off expect the sales to lower a good amount. The GC had high sales at/around launch as well. When the novelty wears off is up in the air...it could be tomorrow or the end of the year or beyond...who knows.

Where did i say that? I said that it's basically selling off of the Wiimote right now...

Seriously, learn to comprehend and quit responding to my posts with stupid remarks that miss the point completely.

You really feel the need to quote and reply to something that i posted nearly an hour ago? Go for it. I never said Zelda was selling horribly...i said it wasn't selling very well (in relation to it selling at launch). It's not selling near the amount that the games that take real advantage of the Wiimote are. Puckhog04

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]Are you going to argue that Wii Play and Warioware are system sellers? Sure, go for it. Look ridiculous. Call of Duty 3 for the Xbox 360 was in the top ten as well at some point, does that mean that that's a system seller as well? :roll:Zhengi

I said the Wiimote and how it works with certain games is selling the Wii more so than the Wii games are at this point. No, it's not faulty, it's common sense. Sure, Zelda is definitely a system seller and Wii sports...well, that supports me saying that the Wiimote and it's functions with the games are selling the console more than the games themselves. Thanks for proving my point correct...

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]You really feel the need to quote and reply to something that i posted nearly an hour ago? Go for it. I never said Zelda was selling horribly...i said it wasn't selling very well (in relation to it selling at launch). It's not selling near the amount that the games that take real advantage of the Wiimote are. Zhengi

You missed the complete point of my posts to begin with. My point was the the games that take true advantage of the Wiimote (like Wiisports) are selling the Wii more so than others are and that this relation between the games and the Wiimote is what is selling the console more than the games themselves.

Comprehension is key here, learn it. No one is crying...i'm simply explaining, in pure english, what i meant to someone with low comprehension skills. Thanks.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]Are you going to argue that Wii Play and Warioware are system sellers? Sure, go for it. Look ridiculous. Call of Duty 3 for the Xbox 360 was in the top ten as well at some point, does that mean that that's a system seller as well? :roll:Puckhog04

I said the Wiimote and how it works with certain games is selling the Wii more so than the Wii games are at this point. No, it's not faulty, it's common sense. Sure, Zelda is definitely a system seller and Wii sports...well, that supports me saying that the Wiimote and it's functions with the games are selling the console more than the games themselves. Thanks for proving my point correct...

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]You really feel the need to quote and reply to something that i posted nearly an hour ago? Go for it. I never said Zelda was selling horribly...i said it wasn't selling very well (in relation to it selling at launch). It's not selling near the amount that the games that take real advantage of the Wiimote are. Puckhog04

You missed the complete point of my posts to begin with. My point was the the games that take true advantage of the Wiimote (like Wiisports) are selling the Wii more so than others are and that this relation between the games and the Wiimote is what is selling the console more than the games themselves.

Comprehension is key here, learn it. No one is crying...i'm simply explaining, in pure english, what i meant to someone with low comprehension skills. Thanks.

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:lol: the ps3 is a flop!!!! i can't wait till sony releases another statement saying the numbers are low because the ps3 is not yet instock.dannyc9

They have already done damage control and they blamed the month of Febuary for being too short for PS3 to unleash it's awesome powers. Or something like that, I can't remember the wording they used.

Just about all the hard core PS3 fanboys should just about have their PS3's now. If the sales don't increase from March to June... With tax return money. PS3 is pretty much toe tagged.Truth_Hurts_U

Not all hardcores. Next week the remaining hardcore consumer will get theirs in the EU. So that will be another 700,000-1,000,000 sales. Once those hardcores get theirs then the general consumer will wait till a price cut.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146545
Nintendo DS 485,000
Wii 335,000
PlayStation 2 295,000
Xbox 360 228,000
PlayStation Portable 176,000
Game Boy Advance 136,000
PlayStation 3 127,000
GameCube 24,000
Xbox 480

*Source: The NPD Group.
poopinloop32

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]Just about all the hard core PS3 fanboys should just about have their PS3's now. If the sales don't increase from March to June... With tax return money. PS3 is pretty much toe tagged.cjnwo4life

Not all hardcores. Next week the remaining hardcore consumer will get theirs in the EU. So that will be another 700,000-1,000,000 sales. Once those hardcores get theirs then the general consumer will wait till a price cut.

I'm talking about NA. Europe isn't looking so good either for PS3.

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ToScA-

Who buys gba now? Why wouldn't they buy the ds instead? :? Dosen't make sense since ds can play gba games.secretsaiyan007

[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="web966"]PlayStation 3 127,000 WTF!!! :lol: Sony is in troubleEl_Fanboy

[QUOTE="RahnAetas"][QUOTE="Final-Darkness"]How is the PS3 supposed to close the gap to the 360 if it gets outsold every single month?Final-Darkness

Do you know that Japan is the smallest market for consoles? The UK alone buys as much as Japan.

wow...the 360 is selling around TWICE the amount of the ps3...

so much for the "100 million ps users" theory...:lol:

ps.... Friday:  Arguably one of the funniest movies EVAH!!!  :D

[QUOTE="secretsaiyan007"]Who buys gba now? Why wouldn't they buy the ds instead? :? Dosen't make sense since ds can play gba games.Teh_Stevz

[QUOTE="Teh_Stevz"][QUOTE="secretsaiyan007"]Who buys gba now? Why wouldn't they buy the ds instead? :? Dosen't make sense since ds can play gba games.taker42

LOL.  Great pic.

Oh, did anyone else notice that NO PS3 games made the Top 10 list, but 5 360 games did (half of the list for you non-math wizzes?  Oh, and to say that Crackdown is a flop to self ownage for all the cows out there.  If its such a flop, then how did it sell over 400,000 units in 10 days? 

[QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="Teh_Stevz"][QUOTE="secretsaiyan007"]Who buys gba now? Why wouldn't they buy the ds instead? :? Dosen't make sense since ds can play gba games.poopinloop32

LOL. Great pic.

Oh, did anyone else notice that NO PS3 games made the Top 10 list, but 5 360 games did (half of the list for you non-math wizzes? Oh, and to say that Crackdown is a flop to self ownage for all the cows out there. If its such a flop, then how did it sell over 400,000 units in 10 days?

REVENGEotSITH

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

LOL. Great pic.

Oh, did anyone else notice that NO PS3 games made the Top 10 list, but 5 360 games did (half of the list for you non-math wizzes? Oh, and to say that Crackdown is a flop to self ownage for all the cows out there. If its such a flop, then how did it sell over 400,000 units in 10 days?

F-Minus

Maybe, maybe not.  The thing is, you can "include" the Halo 3 beta as the mutliplayer aspect of Crackdown - at least, I did when making my purchase.  As a stand-alone game (now that I've finished Crackdown) I would have bought it without the Halo 3 beta.  The Halo 3 beta inclusion helped me make that "leap of faith" and buy the game.  Glad I did.

[QUOTE="F-Minus"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

LOL. Great pic.

Oh, did anyone else notice that NO PS3 games made the Top 10 list, but 5 360 games did (half of the list for you non-math wizzes? Oh, and to say that Crackdown is a flop to self ownage for all the cows out there. If its such a flop, then how did it sell over 400,000 units in 10 days?

REVENGEotSITH

Maybe, maybe not.  The thing is, you can "include" the Halo 3 beta as the mutliplayer aspect of Crackdown - at least, I did when making my purchase.  As a stand-alone game (now that I've finished Crackdown) I would have bought it without the Halo 3 beta.  The Halo 3 beta inclusion helped me make that "leap of faith" and buy the game.  Glad I did.

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"][QUOTE="F-Minus"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

LOL. Great pic.

Oh, did anyone else notice that NO PS3 games made the Top 10 list, but 5 360 games did (half of the list for you non-math wizzes? Oh, and to say that Crackdown is a flop to self ownage for all the cows out there. If its such a flop, then how did it sell over 400,000 units in 10 days?

DaysAirlines

Maybe, maybe not.  The thing is, you can "include" the Halo 3 beta as the mutliplayer aspect of Crackdown - at least, I did when making my purchase.  As a stand-alone game (now that I've finished Crackdown) I would have bought it without the Halo 3 beta.  The Halo 3 beta inclusion helped me make that "leap of faith" and buy the game.  Glad I did.

I said 10 days earlier, but Crackdown actually came out on 20 Feb, giving it only 8 days of sales.

Cows are crying again!! :lol:

Seriously, we are watching just how much a $600 will hurt a console's popularity.

Like I've been saying since E3 06; Every console priced over $300 has failed. Every single one. Also, consoles traditionally enjoy their best sales at the $200 price point.

The PS3 is in trouble. This will become even more apparent as the year progresses.

[QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="Teh_Stevz"][QUOTE="secretsaiyan007"]Who buys gba now? Why wouldn't they buy the ds instead? :? Dosen't make sense since ds can play gba games.Jandurin

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146545
Nintendo DS 485,000
Wii 335,000
PlayStation 2 295,000
Xbox 360 228,000
PlayStation Portable 176,000
Game Boy Advance 136,000
PlayStation 3 127,000
GameCube 24,000
Xbox 480

*Source: The NPD Group.
poopinloop32

Are these numbers for just the holiday season? what time frame are these numbers for?
Oni_Ookami

Are these numbers for just the holiday season? what time frame are these numbers for?
Oni_Ookami

They're for the month of February.

I tried to go to the NPD Group's website to get the 360's numbers for last February (2006), just for a 1-to-1 comparison with the PS3. I think that would be an interesting comparison. Does anyone know how to do that or what those numbers were? Thanks.REVENGEotSITH