The Order 1886 runs at 30fps - that next gen power

LOL...........wow.

TCHBO

DKCR is 720p.....

Nothing funny about what he said.

what's funny is that he is in other threads claiming xbone games to be unplayable because they are 30fps. He is just a joke cow.

but its 60fps...

xd

If this was an XBONE game he would never stop trolling.....and you know this. He is just a fake ass Cow.

Where is your god now Cows?

Oh okay, I rarely pay attention to his posts tbh. Fair enough.

Actually, I didn't know this.

I'd hope so. Which is much more important for a game like that.

@MonsieurX:

I'm glad you could finally admit that PC just doesn't cut it when it comes to quality exclusives.

Epic fail but still interested in seeing gameplay. I know this game will look pretty though

How is it an epic fail if we don't know why they opted for 30 FPS over 60? What if had nothing to do with hardware limitations, and instead they tested both and found 30 FPS accentuated their vision better?

They said the game has destructible and dynamic environments. Maybe that's the case. But either way I take 1080p/30fps than 720p/60fps any day, but I can see why people might get disappointed.

Because there's no such thing as going with inferior fps just cuz it felt like achieving their vision. You go 60fps ALL THE TIME when/if possible. If you seriously believe that them or any other dev would go 30fps over 60fps lol... If this game had awesome graphics (as it probably will), 1080p, 60fps and a Sony exclusive that's a lot of bragging rights for these devs and Sony themselves. Dunno if you noticed but every game that runs in 60fps on ps4 the devs are certainly bragging about it.

that's not how this works. It's 30fps because they can't make it look the way they want it to look and maintain 60fps. Has nothing to do with "accentuating their vision" or whatever bullshit rationalization you want to come up with. This is simply how optimization works.

I hope more next gen games have destructible environments. Nothing worse than a game environment that doesn't react to you in it

As long as it never dips below 30FPS then it's OK, not great but OK.

If they could get film style motion blur to cover up the juddering panning then 30FPS would be just fine in a lot of games that don't require quick reaction times, but I've yet to see this.

@NFJSupreme: @silversix_: There's many different reasons to go with a lower FPS. There's a lovely (and short for people who don't like to read) about the difference between 30 FPS and 60.

http://wccftech.com/30fps-vs-60fps-30fps-better-story-telling-games/

You very well could be right that they're trying to achieve 60 FPS and can't, so they're opting for 30, but there's an interesting phenomenon that goes on in message boards where standard gamers pretend to know everything about game development, so I like to consider all options before just up and assuming things in areas where I don't possess and intricate knowledge.

I can't believe some actually believe this kind of bullshit, its funny...

That had to be the dumbest article I have ever read. I mean, WOW! The guy is comparing games to movies. That's your article, isn't it?

@millerlight89: I'd rather flip fast food burgers than join the petty, click bait world of journalism, of which I do neither, thank you.

Thank goodness. Still pretty bad you used that article.

@millerlight89: There's better ones out there, but this is an internet argument about graphics in videos games -- I'm not spending that much time looking them up. That being said, I agree that the majority of developers probably want all of their games to run in 60 FPS, but when we assume that 100% of games are pursuing 60 FPS, we're destined to be wrong at some point.

There are developers out there, regardless of how few they may be, that don't want their games running in 60 FPS.

Any proof?

Dude that is just one person's opinion. I can promise you that developers aren't deciding to lock games at 30fps on console for a better "cinematic" experience. That is just what they say to remind people that 30fps really isn't that bad. 60fps requires basically twice the power of 30fps to run. That is a lot of resources to just opt into or out of on a whim. To run a game at 60fps vs 30fps or vice versa will require you to change resolution, assets, AA solutions, texture quality, draw distance, and a host of other settings low and high level to do. A lot of sacrifices have to be made to make a game run at 60fps on weaker hardware. It wouldn't look the same as the game running at 30fps on the same hardware. Matter of fact it would look worse even with the higher frame rate.

Fact is by all accounts the Order is really pushing graphics. This means 30fps on console. You can quote me on this if you like. Put it in your sig for all I care. Hell a mod should probably sticky this. ALL PS4 AND XBONE GAMES THAT ARE EXCLUSIVE GRAPHICALLY INTENSE GAMES WILL BE 30FPS. How else are they gonna get a 7770 or 7850XL to run graphically intensive games that look next gen? The 7850 can't even run Far Cry 3 at 60 fps what makes you think it will be able to run The Order and they are just deciding not to for more "cinematic" feel. Lets not be naive. The limitations of these consoles are pretty clear.

Even if they were force 60fps, cuts will be made elsewhere and this means resolution. This is why BF4 is 900p and 720p on next gen consoles. But the fact is 1080p, 60fps, graphically intensive game = PC not these consoles. These consoles will give some combination of those three but not all three.

Expected after hearing long ago that the whole world is supposed to have soft body physics.

I take this is a good thing. The only time I want 60+ fps is when I game on the PC, or playing a racing game/fighting game, and FPS on consoles. TPS for the most part play very well at 30 FPS, at least if you are playing on a TV from 4 feet away. On PC 30 FPS is too noticeable no matter what type of game you are playing. So as long as you dont play the game with your monitor a few inches from your face, you should be fine. Or else avoid consoles at all cost, and stick to your PC.

sub 1080p and 30fps on the ps4 in order to allow soft body physics. This game is trooly not possible on the xb0ne

It's fun watching Cows say 30FPS is fine for a TPS, when just a few weeks ago 1080p 60FPS was a must for a TPS like Tomb Raider.

So you don't want 60fps on consoles? Seems dumb.

Not to defend them, but 30fps for Tomb Raider on Xbone is pretty sad. This game will be quite the leap in graphical fidelity.

@millerlight89: Nope, but I've found it's always silly to assume there isn't at least one.

Given the Cinematic appearance I'm going to assume this game will be all flash and no substance, and I don't trust any graphical bullshots until the game is out and people can make their own judgement without Sony releasing images.

Lol @ Lems grasping for just one once of ownage!

Xbone struggling to run last gen ports (Running on tweaked last gen engines)

Then the Ps4 comes along with a new game,brand spanking new 'next gen' engine and running at native 1080p and 30fps as a design choice by the devs.

Keep searching for some sort of soothing cream for you ass hurt lems! Your desperation is quite amusing!

Too bad TO1886 is neither of these. It's closer to 900p than it is to 1080. (total pixels)

Sony going cheap with their exclusives it seems 800p 30FPS, short draw distances, No multiplayer (single player with two bots).

So nothing to refute that what you originally posted means nothing. 30 fps on last gen game =/= 30 fps on a game releasing this gen. Xbone should be capable enough to run TR with 60fps....you would think. I want my xbone to do well. I dont want the ps4 to run all over it down the line. Xbone exclusives will look great, no doubt. The multiplats is what I'm worried about. I want to be able to get multiplats on both and spread them out without worrying about the xbone lagging behind. I'd rather play MP on xbone, but if the performance/graphics are too far behind the ps4, then there is no point.

800p@30FPS. Pathetic. Consoles holding gaming back again and thanks for killing gaming.

@timbers_WSU: thing is on XBone you also get 720p/900p and reduced AA and effects lol. I never said 30fps is unplayable (i wouldn't be hyping Infamous or DC if I did). What makes XBone and lems like you a joke is playing at 720p/30fps when you could pay $100 less and get twice the framerate and resolution lol. Know the difference you pleb lem.

its not that I dont want it, I just dont see the need for it in a TPS. If I had the option like I do on PC I'll take 60+ FPS every time. But on consoles I'll take the better looking game and 30 FPS. If Its a racing,fighting, and online FPS, i'll always take frame rate over graphics no matter the platform. Because it actually matters in those type of games. But for this type of game I dont see the big deal.

If 800p is pathetic, whats that make ryse which you hype up and runs at a lower resolution?

oh joy. Another Cow alt. with a disability. SW sucks ass now.

I'm fine with that, if its developed at a specific resolution then thats the resolution the game should be at. They said its 1080p

When did I hype Ryse? I just reiterate what DF said. By the way, what does that make The Order which is 800p@30FPS I know it's 1920x800 but that's just 6.7% more pixels than Ryse. Sony has a 50% more powerful system. Lower frame rate and lower resolution is acceptable as long as it's PS, right?

Anyways, three things are confirmed.

1) Crytek >>>>>>>>>> Sony First Party

2)Ryse > Crapzone: Shadow Fail => Crysis 2 from 2011 is no match for the so called next-gen consoles (including X1 you dumb dumbs, because PS4 > X1)

3)Your outdated pieces of Plastic boxes will never be able to produce anything the PC haven't produced already.

30fps is perfectly fine for consoles

You're doing right now even by just saying DF..lol Nobody believes for a second that ryse is the best like you not even the author of the DF article. In your words its literally worse than pathetic.

@I_can_haz: What if someone prefers Microsoft exclusives to Sony exclusives? Should they still just buy whatever system runs games better, even if they won't be getting what they want?