The PS3 Over take the 360.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]LOL almost 30 pages of Lem butthurt. That's what happens when you have no games and you put all your eggs in the financial basket. Desperation is bound to kick in and with it denial, tears and tantrums. Poor rodents :( they have nothing left but the fragile fantasies they've been creating to lie to themselves. It will be funny when even those finally collapse.Frostbite24

nothing makes a lem be more mad than losing on sales wars.  ;)

LOL almost 30 pages of Lem butthurt. That's what happens when you have no games and you put all your eggs in the financial basket. Desperation is bound to kick in and with it denial, tears and tantrums. Poor rodents :( they have nothing left but the fragile fantasies they've been creating to lie to themselves. It will be funny when even those finally collapse.kuraimen

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] It actually, truly, finally is. It's getting all the multiplats (even Bungie!) there doesn't seem to be any horrible inferior ones, they're getting good PSN games, PSN itself is close to LIVE (horrible updates and the odd missing feature aside) they are getting the best exclusvies, and have PS4 to look forward to too. And hell, they might even move into 2nd place in sales! (in a factual, not rumoured, way) IT FINALLY HAPPENED! YEAR OF THE PS3!!!xxunnecessaryxs

Seriously, the cows are so ready to move on from this gen it's not funny. :P

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]LOL almost 30 pages of Lem butthurt. That's what happens when you have no games and you put all your eggs in the financial basket. Desperation is bound to kick in and with it denial, tears and tantrums. Poor rodents :( they have nothing left but the fragile fantasies they've been creating to lie to themselves. It will be funny when even those finally collapse.Gue1

nothing makes a lem be more mad than losing on sales wars.  ;)

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]LOL almost 30 pages of Lem butthurt. That's what happens when you have no games and you put all your eggs in the financial basket. Desperation is bound to kick in and with it denial, tears and tantrums. Poor rodents :( they have nothing left but the fragile fantasies they've been creating to lie to themselves. It will be funny when even those finally collapse.Gue1

nothing makes a lem be more mad than losing on sales wars.  ;)

Lems are mad :( OK lems if sales make you mad let's discuss games.... Oh wait!kuraimen

Lems are mad :( OK lems if sales make you mad let's discuss games.... Oh wait!kuraimen

did i miss something in the 3 months i was gone?

Seriously, the cows are so ready to move on from this gen it's not funny. :P

SecretPolice

Nah, Still yet to play TLOU, Beyond 2 Souls, Puppeteer, Rain, GT6, Tales of Xillia :cool:

Lems are mad :( OK lems if sales make you mad let's discuss games.... Oh wait!kuraimen

You can pretend to bury your head in the sand all you want, we all know that you are aware of the facts.

Ill send you a PM when the PS3 finally overtakes the 360 ;)

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"] Seriously, the cows are so ready to move on from this gen it's not funny. :P

Clock-w0rk

Nah, Still yet to play TLOU, Beyond 2 Souls, Puppeteer, Rain, GT6, Tales of Xillia :cool:

[QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"] Seriously, the cows are so ready to move on from this gen it's not funny. :P

SecretPolice

Nah, Still yet to play TLOU, Beyond 2 Souls, Puppeteer, Rain, GT6, Tales of Xillia :cool:

Yh I understand, I'd love for a lot of the upcoming games to be ported over to next gen.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

Nah, Still yet to play TLOU, Beyond 2 Souls, Puppeteer, Rain, GT6, Tales of Xillia :cool:

Clock-w0rk

Yh I understand, I'd love for a lot of the upcoming games to be ported over to next gen.

 

Not really sure why I am wasting my time even saying this since you are obviously delusional. Anyway you do know that even if true that 54% is only from the first couple of years, not all Xbox 360s right?

Also that those numbers have been debunked, since those numbers came from a survey done of 5000 people through Game Informer. About as scientific as asking on here how many xbox 360s have you gone through. PS3 fanboys who never owend an Xbox 360 because of their hate for MS will reply that they've gone through 6 or 7 consoles. Hell I think Kuraimen has lost at least 4 or 5. You've probably gone through a few too, right? 

Actually Square Trade came up with these numbers and they are probably more realistic. Since they are in the business of repairing faulty consoles. LINKY

    Game Console Failure Rates:Wii 9 times more reliable than Xbox 360, 4 times more than PS3   

Synopsis: SquareTrade analyzed failure rates for over 16,000 new game consoles covered by SquareTrade Care Plans and found that the Wii experienced one-fourth of the common failures that the other systems have.  

Highlights of the study include:- Looking at the first 2 years of ownership, 2.7% of Wii owners reported a system failure to SquareTrade, compared with 10.0% of PlayStation 3 owners, and 23.7% for Xbox 360 owners. - 

Excluding Red Ring of Death failures, which are covered by Microsofts 3-year warranty, 11.7% of Xbox 360 owners reported a failure. - While the RROD problem continued to be the major issue for Xbox 360s purchased through 2008, early indications point to the problem abating in 2009. 

The most common types of problems seen with the PS3 and Xbox 360 were disc read errors andoutput issues. The Wii had more power and remote control issues than the other 2 systems. 

Ok I've said my part, and I'm going to go back to playing games instead of hanging here...continue your delusion

coasterguy65

Lets starts  here..

Your article started investigating on 2008,not on 2005 so basically they started when RROD was lower,as it got lower which models changes.

Second, Microsofts policy may result in an underreporting of failures by Xbox 360 owners toSquareTrade, relative to the other two consoles.Because the RROD problem is so widely known to becovered by Microsofts warranty, we believe that more customers bypass SquareTrade and reportedfailures directly to the Microsoft. In a survey ofSquareTrade customers withXbox 360s conducted byemail, SquareTrade found that overhalf of our customers who experienced a RROD error reported theirproblem directly to Microsoft without contacting SquareTrade. Email survey respondents tend to be aself-selecting group, so the data should be used directionally rather than definitively, particularly becausewe did not survey PS3 and Wii owners with the samequestion. With that caveat in mind, applying thesurvey data to the analysis shows that the Xbox 360 failure rate could be as high as 35%.

EB Games held conference calls for its Canadian stores informing them of the new policy changes and revealing alarming failure rates of the Xbox 360. The real numbers were between 30 to 33 percent, said former EB Games employee Matthieu G., adding that failure rate was even greater for launch consoles. We had 35 Xbox 360s at launch I know more than half of them broke within the first six months (red lights or making circles under the game discs). Two of them were dead on arrival.

Mind you the xbox 360 warranty was change twice,first it was 90 days,then was bump to 1 year and then to 3 years.

By the way what is 30 to 35% out of 77 millions..

[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Well one has 100% accurate data on consoles sold and 1 guesses. Which do you think it is? :roll:Tessellation

Yeah we have no proof...

Just the fact that it cost MS more than 1 billion in warranty,i guess those 10 xbox 360 units that got RROD cost MS 100 millions each to fix right.?

The biggest proof of how huge the fail rate was,is how MS basically seprated 1 billion to begin with for rapairs,how many xbox 360 were sold by mid 2007.?

So not only they know there were many unit faulty athey also knew it would not stop for several years.

Still combining PS2 sales? Lol. Hey cows, the WiiU is beating the PS3 in lifetime sales!!! (if we include Wii sales, which we do, because DUH!) :lol:locopatho

They are not uncluding the PS2 sales in the life time sales of the PS3 idiot,other wise sony would be claiming more than 200 million console sold.

They join PS2 and PS3 numbers for investors,not to hide PS3 bad sales the PS3 is outselling the xbox 360 quite easy in EU and Japan,and sadly for you US is not bigger that both of those markets combined.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Still combining PS2 sales? Lol. Hey cows, the WiiU is beating the PS3 in lifetime sales!!! (if we include Wii sales, which we do, because DUH!) :lol:tormentos

They are not uncluding the PS2 sales in the life time sales of the PS3 idiot,other wise sony would be claiming more than 200 million console sold.

They join PS2 and PS3 numbers for investors,not to hide PS3 bad sales the PS3 is outselling the xbox 360 quite easy in EU and Japan,and sadly for you US is not bigger that both of those markets combined.

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Still combining PS2 sales? Lol. Hey cows, the WiiU is beating the PS3 in lifetime sales!!! (if we include Wii sales, which we do, because DUH!) :lol:locopatho

They are not uncluding the PS2 sales in the life time sales of the PS3 idiot,other wise sony would be claiming more than 200 million console sold.

They join PS2 and PS3 numbers for investors,not to hide PS3 bad sales the PS3 is outselling the xbox 360 quite easy in EU and Japan,and sadly for you US is not bigger that both of those markets combined.

Oh is not a lie this are official finalcial statments from sony and MS,in fact the worst case scenario the PS3 tied with the xbox 360 at 77.2 million by the end of march this year,in the best one the PS3 is outdoing the 360 by 600,000 units..

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Still combining PS2 sales? Lol. Hey cows, the WiiU is beating the PS3 in lifetime sales!!! (if we include Wii sales, which we do, because DUH!) :lol:locopatho

They are not uncluding the PS2 sales in the life time sales of the PS3 idiot,other wise sony would be claiming more than 200 million console sold.

They join PS2 and PS3 numbers for investors,not to hide PS3 bad sales the PS3 is outselling the xbox 360 quite easy in EU and Japan,and sadly for you US is not bigger that both of those markets combined.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

They are not uncluding the PS2 sales in the life time sales of the PS3 idiot,other wise sony would be claiming more than 200 million console sold.

They join PS2 and PS3 numbers for investors,not to hide PS3 bad sales the PS3 is outselling the xbox 360 quite easy in EU and Japan,and sadly for you US is not bigger that both of those markets combined.

Shewgenja

Duck season?

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"] Seriously, the cows are so ready to move on from this gen it's not funny. :P

Clock-w0rk

Nah, Still yet to play TLOU, Beyond 2 Souls, Puppeteer, Rain, GT6, Tales of Xillia :cool:

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"] Seriously, the cows are so ready to move on from this gen it's not funny. :P

Clock-w0rk

Nah, Still yet to play TLOU, Beyond 2 Souls, Puppeteer, Rain, GT6, Tales of Xillia :cool:

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

 

Not really sure why I am wasting my time even saying this since you are obviously delusional. Anyway you do know that even if true that 54% is only from the first couple of years, not all Xbox 360s right?

Also that those numbers have been debunked, since those numbers came from a survey done of 5000 people through Game Informer. About as scientific as asking on here how many xbox 360s have you gone through. PS3 fanboys who never owend an Xbox 360 because of their hate for MS will reply that they've gone through 6 or 7 consoles. Hell I think Kuraimen has lost at least 4 or 5. You've probably gone through a few too, right? 

Actually Square Trade came up with these numbers and they are probably more realistic. Since they are in the business of repairing faulty consoles. LINKY

    Game Console Failure Rates:Wii 9 times more reliable than Xbox 360, 4 times more than PS3   

Synopsis: SquareTrade analyzed failure rates for over 16,000 new game consoles covered by SquareTrade Care Plans and found that the Wii experienced one-fourth of the common failures that the other systems have.  

Highlights of the study include:- Looking at the first 2 years of ownership, 2.7% of Wii owners reported a system failure to SquareTrade, compared with 10.0% of PlayStation 3 owners, and 23.7% for Xbox 360 owners. - 

Excluding Red Ring of Death failures, which are covered by Microsofts 3-year warranty, 11.7% of Xbox 360 owners reported a failure. - While the RROD problem continued to be the major issue for Xbox 360s purchased through 2008, early indications point to the problem abating in 2009. 

The most common types of problems seen with the PS3 and Xbox 360 were disc read errors andoutput issues. The Wii had more power and remote control issues than the other 2 systems. 

Ok I've said my part, and I'm going to go back to playing games instead of hanging here...continue your delusion

tormentos

Lets starts  here..

Your article started investigating on 2008,not on 2005 so basically they started when RROD was lower,as it got lower which models changes.

Second, Microsofts policy may result in an underreporting of failures by Xbox 360 owners toSquareTrade, relative to the other two consoles.Because the RROD problem is so widely known to becovered by Microsofts warranty, we believe that more customers bypass SquareTrade and reportedfailures directly to the Microsoft. In a survey ofSquareTrade customers withXbox 360s conducted byemail, SquareTrade found that overhalf of our customers who experienced a RROD error reported theirproblem directly to Microsoft without contacting SquareTrade. Email survey respondents tend to be aself-selecting group, so the data should be used directionally rather than definitively, particularly becausewe did not survey PS3 and Wii owners with the samequestion. With that caveat in mind, applying thesurvey data to the analysis shows that the Xbox 360 failure rate could be as high as 35%.

EB Games held conference calls for its Canadian stores informing them of the new policy changes and revealing alarming failure rates of the Xbox 360. The real numbers were between 30 to 33 percent, said former EB Games employee Matthieu G., adding that failure rate was even greater for launch consoles. We had 35 Xbox 360s at launch I know more than half of them broke within the first six months (red lights or making circles under the game discs). Two of them were dead on arrival.

Mind you the xbox 360 warranty was change twice,first it was 90 days,then was bump to 1 year and then to 3 years.

By the way what is 30 to 35% out of 77 millions..

Still shoots a hole in the 54% you were claiming earlier doesn't it?

54% fail rate.

http://kotaku.com/5339555/report-xbox-360-failure-rate-over-50-percent

 

tormentos

Everybody knows there was a RRoD issue, just like the PS3 has the YLoD issue. However my point, backed up by the report is that the 360 was not failing at over 50% like you said, but closer to the mid 30s.

By the way what is 30 to 35% out of 77 millions..

tormentos

It would not be 30-35% of the 77 million sold. It would be 30-35% of the 360s that sold in the first few years. The ones that actually had RRoD. While the failure rate was that high, most of the consoles were fixed for free by MS.

So unless you have some actual numbers that are verifiable you cannot say how many console sales were re-buys replacing RRoD consoles. That's speculating. If you want to do that then we could speculate about about how many PS3s were re-bought because of YLoD, DRE, and other failures, when Sony would not cover the repair after the first year.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Lems are mad :( OK lems if sales make you mad let's discuss games.... Oh wait!CaseyWegner

did i miss something in the 3 months i was gone?

Cows have actually gotten worse. Yeah i know, i didn't think it was possible either.

PS3 will overtake the Wii in a year or two. Is that why your jimmies are rustled?Shewgenja

See what i mean ^^ :roll:

 

Everybody knows there was a RRoD issue, just like the PS3 has the YLoD issue. However my point, backed up by the report is that the 360 was not failing at over 50% like you said, but closer to the mid 30s.

 

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

By the way what is 30 to 35% out of 77 millions..

coasterguy65

It would not be 30-35% of the 77 million sold. It would be 30-35% of the 360s that sold in the first few years. The ones that actually had RRoD. While the failure rate was that high, most of the consoles were fixed for free by MS.

So unless you have some actual numbers that are verifiable you cannot say how many console sales were re-buys replacing RRoD consoles. That's speculating. If you want to do that then we could speculate about about how many PS3s were re-bought because of YLoD, DRE, and other failures, when Sony would not cover the repair after the first year.

Once again i had a link to back me up,and your own link turn on you,it wasn't accurate either.

All fat 360 are pront to RROD,and while newer model improved there were not RROD safe in any way,they could fail at any day,only slim models don't suffer RROD,sadly slim models enter the market on late 2010,any fat unit prior to that can RROD.

So see what is 30 to 35% of what MS had until 2010 and you will get the idea,the xbox 360 was like at 46 millions when the slim models hit,so do the math.

Also YLOD is not even close to RROD,in fact by your own link,even witout RROD other hardware problems on 360 make it more unreliable than the PS3,the PS3 had 10% the xbox 360 11+ % that was when RROD was taken out of the picture.

Cows have actually gotten worse. Yeah i know, i didn't think it was possible either.Snugenz

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]Cows have actually gotten worse. Yeah i know, i didn't think it was possible either.kuraimen

So sad...

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

did i miss something in the 3 months i was gone?

Snugenz

Cows have actually gotten worse. Yeah i know, i didn't think it was possible either.

PS3 will overtake the Wii in a year or two. Is that why your jimmies are rustled?Shewgenja

See what i mean ^^ :roll:

No more pain, only happiness now.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]Cows have actually gotten worse. Yeah i know, i didn't think it was possible either.kuraimen

I thought it already passed the 360 a while ago? So this time it's right? Or maybe next time?RoslindaleOne

it already happened. This is just more material to keep playing with the minds of the lems which only care about sales because they got no games. :cool:

I thought it already passed the 360 a while ago? So this time it's right? Or maybe next time?RoslindaleOne

Sony would have made an official announcement if it passed the 360 IMO.

And combining sales is just lame. I don't care how old the PS2 is, the thing still sells a very decent amount each year.

Having said that, the PS3 and 360 are probably within few hundred thousand of each other.

 

No moo pain, only happiness now.

Shewgenja

You really cannot help yourself can you, poor cow. :P

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

 

No moo pain, only happiness now.

Snugenz

You really cannot help yourself can you, poor cow. :P

No, just cows jumping the gun as usual. The article they all pretend is real was some link which predicted it would happen this year. But when has reality stopped the herd on SW? :)

blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="RoslindaleOne"]I thought it already passed the 360 a while ago? So this time it's right? Or maybe next time?Gue1

it already happened. This is just more material to keep playing with the minds of the lems which only care about sales because they got no games. :cool:

TLHBO!

I thought it already passed the 360 a while ago? So this time it's right? Or maybe next time?RoslindaleOne

Sony would have made an official announcement if it passed the 360 IMO.

And combining sales is just lame. I don't care how old the PS2 is, the thing still sells a very decent amount each year.

Having said that, the PS3 and 360 are probably within few hundred thousand of each other.

Kingpin0114

[QUOTE="RoslindaleOne"]I thought it already passed the 360 a while ago? So this time it's right? Or maybe next time?RR360DD

[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="RoslindaleOne"]I thought it already passed the 360 a while ago? So this time it's right? Or maybe next time?blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="RoslindaleOne"]I thought it already passed the 360 a while ago? So this time it's right? Or maybe next time?blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]I'm pretty sure the PS3 will pass the 360 again in a few months ... somehow. Cows gonna cowRR360DD

All right Xbox fanboys and gals to make things fair you can add the sales of the 360 and the original Xbox.... what's that you say? They abandoned us halfway through this consoles lifespan and abandoned the Xbox upon the arrival of the 360? Oh... well, that sucks :roll:

PS3 won Xbox fans... get over it. Who really cares anyways? lmao

All right Xbox fanboys and gals to make things fair you can add the sales of the 360 and the original Xbox.... what's that you say? They abandoned us halfway through this consoles lifespan and abandoned the Xbox upon the arrival of the 360? Oh... well, that sucks :roll:

PS3 won Xbox fans... get over it. Who really cares anyways? lmao

WitIsWisdom

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]Cows have actually gotten worse. Yeah i know, i didn't think it was possible either.blue_hazy_basic

relevant points? I think you mean the poor man's spins about the PS2 selling 3 millions. :roll:

Congrats Sony. Good job.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol just because lems are getting owned up and down? is not our problem that M$ treat you like second class citizens and you fall for it.Gue1

relevant points? I think you mean the poor man's spins about the PS2 selling 3 millions. :roll: