The whole "we need new consoles now" is just an excuse..

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

to be lazy as ****.I mean seriously people;what will a new console do that we dont already have BESIDES better graphics?

When developers want to get lazy and dont want to think of anything new they start covering up by screaming "we need new consoles".Bringing out new consoles wont solve anything;there is plenty of stuff developers can still do with the PS3/X360.I mean sure these consoles might be peeking but who gives a ****?I play games to have fun not to just look at the graphics.(not to mention the graphics in new games that come out these days for the PS3/X360 still wow me)

turtlethetaffer

The same thing could be said for PC. What would an upgraded PC do that past ones can't, aside from better graphics?

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

to be lazy as ****.I mean seriously people;what will a new console do that we dont already have BESIDES better graphics?

When developers want to get lazy and dont want to think of anything new they start covering up by screaming "we need new consoles".Bringing out new consoles wont solve anything;there is plenty of stuff developers can still do with the PS3/X360.I mean sure these consoles might be peeking but who gives a ****?I play games to have fun not to just look at the graphics.(not to mention the graphics in new games that come out these days for the PS3/X360 still wow me)

110million

The same thing could be said for PC. What would an upgraded PC do that past ones can't, aside from better graphics?

My point to TC is, the same could be done on consoles. Bigger levels and such, with the next gen. So, i'm saying I think he's wrong. (Or doesn't know what he's talking about.)

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]

[QUOTE="110million"] Starbit collection wasn't really what the game is known for either. :/ I don't really see controls as such a major part of the game as you do, as long as the controls make sense for the particular game, my focus shifts entirely to the game, I know when I push a particular button I will jump, another will make me shoot or whatever. It takes you out of the game when you start needing to turn your controller or start pointing at the screen, at least for me. The controller should be there to allow you to play the game, the controller itself should not be the game. Why is it that no one started complaining about gamepads being outdated until this gen? :roll: They were okay for like several decades and now they are bad all of a sudden, simply because nintendo released a controller that they themselves don't make heavy use of. LastRambo341

That's the whole thing right there. For most games the Wii mote just doesn't make sense.

By all means, list them.

Since minor graphical updates are the last thing needed, a new generation doesn't need to come up any time soon.

Since minor graphical updates are the last thing needed, a new generation doesn't need to come up any time soon.

metalgear-solid

You're absolutely right that minor graphical upgrades are'nt needed.

I have a load of extra dosh right now, and would like to use it on some video games before I blow it all on something else.

Since minor graphical updates are the last thing needed, a new generation doesn't need to come up any time soon.

metalgear-solid

Exactly! We dont need new consoles right now, we are already seeing impressive looking games already (God of War 3, KZ3, U3, Gears 3), and I dont want to spend $600/700 on some minor upgrade in resolution and some other BS that wont make any significant difference from what we are getting right now.

Anyone who says otherwise is just a graphic whore who just wants a new console to brag to the hermits and compare more cool specs too.

[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]

Since minor graphical updates are the last thing needed, a new generation doesn't need to come up any time soon.

Adamantium4k2

Exactly! We dont need new consoles right now, we are already seeing impressive looking games already (God of War 3, KZ3, U3, Gears 3), and I dont want to spend $600/700 on some minor upgrade in resolution and some other BS that wont make any significant difference from what we are getting right now.

Anyone who says otherwise is just a graphic whore who just wants a new console to brag to the hermits and compare more cool specs too.

Posts like this makes it hard to not be elitist.

its to bad the only new console/handheld coming is ngp and wii 2 ,

thanks to sony and ms pushin current hardware past its limits , and releasing add-ons and bigger disc sizes-xbox ,

and ll that will have to settle for , im sorry but thats the truth this is what happens when people rush into things,

had they done a xbox 1.5 or ps2.5 theyd be where nintendo is now - on its way to releasing better hardware for cheaper prices and thats somthing they dont care abour

so ill stick to my ps3 360 and get my wii 2 i do own all consoles lol but next gen will probably be different cause im gonna get which one has the better games, im not going all 3 again did that this gen ended up wasting 600 bucks

and wii 3 will be around the corner from ps4s /720s launches so

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]

That's the whole thing right there. For most games the Wii mote just doesn't make sense.

Filthybastrd

By all means, list them.

Games haven't been able to wow me for awhile now, so I'm building a PC

to be lazy as ****.I mean seriously people;what will a new console do that we dont already have BESIDES better graphics?

When developers want to get lazy and dont want to think of anything new they start covering up by screaming "we need new consoles".Bringing out new consoles wont solve anything;there is plenty of stuff developers can still do with the PS3/X360.I mean sure these consoles might be peeking but who gives a ****?I play games to have fun not to just look at the graphics.(not to mention the graphics in new games that come out these days for the PS3/X360 still wow me)

JordanizPro

Exactly!! You get the supreme co sign from Coolyfett! Only one company needs to upgrade, after fooling gamers into buying inferior hardward. Now is the perfect time for Microsoft and Sony to blitz the industry with both first & third party games. We dont need new systems we need more games, more options, more genres!!! Devs need to be creative. Everything you are saying JordanizPro is dead on man!! Microsoft & Sony have excellent systems. What ever system has the most games of all time...Sony and Microsoft need to try and double that number, create a controller with a screen on it, but we dont need new hardware from those two firms.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]3000 post, grats. But on topic... Cool story bro. Maybe i should go back to play PS1 games and feel superior to everyone.JordanizPro

BOOOOOOOY You aint never lied!!! Coolyfett wonders about that as well. How Rockstar come up with these fine games and EA & Activision cant??? See what Coolyfett did there?? Gamers keep buying rehashes and taking all the imagination & creativity out of gaming. Its a lot of self centered egos on this topic. Coolyfett can tell who has been gaming since Generation 3 vs gamers who just started in Generation 6. People pushing for new systems really dont value anything. Price cuts? Yes...New systems NO!

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] You haven't played the right onesLastRambo341

By all means, list them.

No, it means that I can't think of a single one and I have'nt seen an example I could agree with. In fact, games like SMG strike me as pretty much designed for DA controllers while being Wii-mote exclusive regardless.

Why won't you enlighten me if you hold the knowledge?

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

By all means, list them.

Filthybastrd

No, it means that I can't think of a single one and I have'nt seen an example I could agree with. In fact, games like SMG strike me as pretty much designed for DA controllers while being Wii-mote exclusive regardless.

Why won't you enlighten me if you hold the knowledge?

I'll give you a few:

Boom Blox

Red Steel

Red Steel 2

RE: Darkside Chronicles

RE: Umbrella Chronicles

Dead Space: Extraction

Wii Sports

Wii Sports Resort

Wii Fit

And many more

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

to be lazy as ****.I mean seriously people;what will a new console do that we dont already have BESIDES better graphics?

When developers want to get lazy and dont want to think of anything new they start covering up by screaming "we need new consoles".Bringing out new consoles wont solve anything;there is plenty of stuff developers can still do with the PS3/X360.I mean sure these consoles might be peeking but who gives a ****?I play games to have fun not to just look at the graphics.(not to mention the graphics in new games that come out these days for the PS3/X360 still wow me)

Riverwolf007

all those are important to me and have nothing to do with looking better.

Not to mention, all 3 consoles have lasted over 6 years by next year this gen. Normally consoles last up to 5 years before another one comes out.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

to be lazy as ****.I mean seriously people;what will a new console do that we dont already have BESIDES better graphics?

When developers want to get lazy and dont want to think of anything new they start covering up by screaming "we need new consoles".Bringing out new consoles wont solve anything;there is plenty of stuff developers can still do with the PS3/X360.I mean sure these consoles might be peeking but who gives a ****?I play games to have fun not to just look at the graphics.(not to mention the graphics in new games that come out these days for the PS3/X360 still wow me)

Indie_Hitman

Yeah, but this console generation is ancient, almost 6 years old and developers are having a hard time optimizing these said games to still 'wow' you, millions of dollars and time wasted. With more 'free space' to work on the devs wouldn't have such a hard time optimizing the games, as another guy said in another topic.

Its time for a new gen. And hopefully the death of mediocre, linear, gray and bland shooters, and something new to kick it in popularity.

LOL @ Shirley! But yes this is very true. The Devs are still learning how to maximize the system. Xbox 360 & Playstation 3 need more games, more options, more controllers. The hardware is still fine. A price drop new competitive bundles would be so lovely!! Xbox 360 + Kinect for 150$ when that happens then they can make new systems. Right now the price is still high.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Its time for a new gen. And hopefully the death of mediocre, linear, gray and bland shooters, and something new to kick it in popularity.

dzimm

The reason many games on the hi-def consoles are mediocre, linear, grey, and bland is because that's how they're designed and not because the available hardware can't support a different kind of game. You could give developers more powerful tech to work with, and they'd still deliver mediocre, linear, grey, and bland games simply because that's what sells.

Solid! and True!

As far as i'm concerned this generation can last 5 more years. I don't want to be spending money on new consoles any time soon.lusitanogamer

Not only that, but we need more games. People spent a lot of money on their Xbox 360s & Playstations 3s, it would be terrible service to stop developing for those 2 great systems. They were not cheap systems. When a PS3 cost 150$ then we can upgrade but there are still many people that dont have either system mainly because of how much they cost. They not household items yet.

I would like to see a new console around early 2013.

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]As far as i'm concerned this generation can last 5 more years. I don't want to be spending money on new consoles any time soon.Coolyfett

Not only that, but we need more games. People spent a lot of money on their Xbox 360s & Playstations 3s, it would be terrible service to stop developing for those 2 great systems. They were not cheap systems. When a PS3 cost 150$ then we can upgrade but there are still many people that dont have either system mainly because of how much they cost. They not household items yet.

People that dont have a ps3 or 360 now are probably not going to get them, its the end of the consoles life already. They might not have got them because this gen is terrible and these hd twins are just wannabe pcs. These 360 isnt 150 yet because of MS greed and the ps3 isnt 150 yet because of sony white elephant teh cell

Well, you're gonna need it sooner or later :P. Seriously though, I agree. New systems aren't getting any cheaper each generation, and I don't see how games can get any more advanced other than better graphics (nowdays, this gen just seems more convenient more than innovative). DethSkematik

New hardware affects far more than just graphics, hardware also affects:

1: Physics

2: Destruction

3: Artifical Intellegence

4: Number of characters/enemies/players on screen at once

5: Size of video games

6: Load times

7: Animation

8: Audio Fidelity

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]As far as i'm concerned this generation can last 5 more years. I don't want to be spending money on new consoles any time soon.Coolyfett

Not only that, but we need more games. People spent a lot of money on their Xbox 360s & Playstations 3s, it would be terrible service to stop developing for those 2 great systems. They were not cheap systems. When a PS3 cost 150$ then we can upgrade but there are still many people that dont have either system mainly because of how much they cost. They not household items yet.

[QUOTE="DethSkematik"]Well, you're gonna need it sooner or later :P. Seriously though, I agree. New systems aren't getting any cheaper each generation, and I don't see how games can get any more advanced other than better graphics (nowdays, this gen just seems more convenient more than innovative). DarkGamer007

New hardware affects far more than just graphics, hardware also affects:

1: Physics

2: Destruction

3: Artifical Intellegence

4: Number of characters/enemies/players on screen at once

5: Size of video games

6: Load times

7: Animation

8: Audio Fidelity

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]As far as i'm concerned this generation can last 5 more years. I don't want to be spending money on new consoles any time soon.NanoMan88

Not only that, but we need more games. People spent a lot of money on their Xbox 360s & Playstations 3s, it would be terrible service to stop developing for those 2 great systems. They were not cheap systems. When a PS3 cost 150$ then we can upgrade but there are still many people that dont have either system mainly because of how much they cost. They not household items yet.

People that dont have a ps3 or 360 now are probably not going to get them, its the end of the consoles life already. They might not have got them because this gen is terrible and these hd twins are just wannabe pcs. These 360 isnt 150 yet because of MS greed and the ps3 isnt 150 yet because of sony white elephant teh cell

If it is the end of 360 & PS3 why are games still coming out for it?

These Gen is not over. Generation 7 does not end until 360 or PS3 stops production....meaning the factory stops creating them.

Coolyfett has no beef with PC gaming.

150$ is a fair price for staying in the black. Use hardcore gamers and nerds to get out of the red and use fair pricing to stay in the black.

Now is the time for PS3 & 360 to blitz games on the market.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]As far as i'm concerned this generation can last 5 more years. I don't want to be spending money on new consoles any time soon.-RocBoys9489-

Not only that, but we need more games. People spent a lot of money on their Xbox 360s & Playstations 3s, it would be terrible service to stop developing for those 2 great systems. They were not cheap systems. When a PS3 cost 150$ then we can upgrade but there are still many people that dont have either system mainly because of how much they cost. They not household items yet.

There are over 308 Million people in the US, Do you know how many people are in Europe and Japan? Both have more people than the US. Now you do the math.

. Here is the problem, let me get srs for a second. The dos and don't of motion control: Do make an action of the Wii-Mote match one that you do on screen. (EG. a stab to stab) DON'T turn an action that replaces a button into a motion. (EG. a shake to spin). Pointing at the screen or doing a sword swinging motion that matches your character is alright, but if the action you're doing could be replaced by a button, you're doing it wrong. I hope you understand what I mean.110million

That's my whole problem with the Wii in a nutshell.

I'll also add: Don't implement stabbing motions just because you can. Make them relevant rather than a nuiscance or leave them alone.

personaly, I find immersion to be proportional with the "lag" between thought and action as far as controls go. The less I notice I'm even using one, the better (except when you actually do stop using one ;))

Great for Tennis games, not so great for Mario.

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

[QUOTE="DethSkematik"]Well, you're gonna need it sooner or later :P. Seriously though, I agree. New systems aren't getting any cheaper each generation, and I don't see how games can get any more advanced other than better graphics (nowdays, this gen just seems more convenient more than innovative). mitu123

New hardware affects far more than just graphics, hardware also affects:

1: Physics

2: Destruction

3: Artifical Intellegence

4: Number of characters/enemies/players on screen at once

5: Size of video games

6: Load times

7: Animation

8: Audio Fidelity

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

Not only that, but we need more games. People spent a lot of money on their Xbox 360s & Playstations 3s, it would be terrible service to stop developing for those 2 great systems. They were not cheap systems. When a PS3 cost 150$ then we can upgrade but there are still many people that dont have either system mainly because of how much they cost. They not household items yet.

Coolyfett

There are over 308 Million people in the US, Do you know how many people are in Europe and Japan? Both have more people than the US. Now you do the math.

The Nintendo system sold 80 million. Ok what if the Wii was priced at 399$? Would it have sold 80 million? This Generation is far from over. Coolyfett is starting to see why gamers want this Generation 7 to be over. They dont want PS3 or 360 to catch the Wii in numbers. Its all about the numbers. See if 360 & PS3 was to price drop the numbers would destroy 100 million.........Coolyfett is smelling fear now. Why the rush to end Generation 7 gamers?? Something doesnt smell right. All these graphic excuses just dont fly.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"] Are you kidding me, both 360 and PS3 have sold 50 million EACH and the Wii has sold what, 80 million?! That's even more than the total what last gen consoles sold I believe.-RocBoys9489-

There are over 308 Million people in the US, Do you know how many people are in Europe and Japan? Both have more people than the US. Now you do the math.

Well move on then. The INDUSTRY controls the INDUSTRY. The sky is the limit. Microsoft & Sony has not sold enough because it is still not an affordable hobby. Generation 7 continues....what are you going to do about it?

The Nintendo system sold 80 million. Ok what if the Wii was priced at 399$? Would it have sold 80 million? This Generation is far from over. Coolyfett is starting to see why gamers want this Generation 7 to be over. They dont want PS3 or 360 to catch the Wii in numbers. Its all about the numbers. See if 360 & PS3 was to price drop the numbers would destroy 100 million.........Coolyfett is smelling fear now. Why the rush to end Generation 7 gamers?? Something doesnt smell right. All these graphic excuses just dont fly.

Coolyfett

Gamers that just bought a PS3 or 360 need not to worry about what Nintendo is doing. Not matter what they release it will be apart of Generation 7 unless Microsoft or Sony make a move. You cant have a new generation of SYSTEMS if there is only one SYSTEM........seriously. Keep buying games. The 3DS is doing bad in retail, so if Nintendo drops support for the Wii to focus on Cafe...Sony & Microsoft are now to follow suit?? No Sir. Generation 7 continues. Deal wit it.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

The Nintendo system sold 80 million. Ok what if the Wii was priced at 399$? Would it have sold 80 million? This Generation is far from over. Coolyfett is starting to see why gamers want this Generation 7 to be over. They dont want PS3 or 360 to catch the Wii in numbers. Its all about the numbers. See if 360 & PS3 was to price drop the numbers would destroy 100 million.........Coolyfett is smelling fear now. Why the rush to end Generation 7 gamers?? Something doesnt smell right. All these graphic excuses just dont fly.

-RocBoys9489-

Good boy. Well played, keep your diginity in tact.

On topic. Generation 7 has at least 4 years left in it, but again as the Topic starter has stated there is no need for new systems on Microsoft & Sony part.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

New hardware affects far more than just graphics, hardware also affects:

1: Physics

2: Destruction

3: Artifical Intellegence

4: Number of characters/enemies/players on screen at once

5: Size of video games

6: Load times

7: Animation

8: Audio Fidelity

-RocBoys9489-

There are over 308 Million people in the US, Do you know how many people are in Europe and Japan? Both have more people than the US. Now you do the math.Coolyfett

~127m > ~308m wat? Japan has less than us. EU has more though ~500m

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]3000 post, grats. But on topic... Cool story bro. Maybe i should go back to play PS1 games and feel superior to everyone.JordanizPro

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]There are over 308 Million people in the US, Do you know how many people are in Europe and Japan? Both have more people than the US. Now you do the math.Inconsistancy

~127m > ~308m wat? Japan has less than us. EU has more though ~500m

Good call, is China apart of the *** region or is there some regulation there? There may be some form of video game regulation in China...but most of the time you see 3 regions mentioned NA, *** & EU...Aust maybe? Still the point is PS3 should do DS numbers before they waste time trying to compete with a system they do not need to compete with.

Bigger RAM would be nice

Bigger RAM would be nice

TheEpicGoat

to be lazy as ****.I mean seriously people;what will a new console do that we dont already have BESIDES better graphics?

JordanizPro