The Wii isn't what it promised to be.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

RE4 was great before the wii. but most reviews have said that the wii version is the best because of the controls. my conclusion, wiimote done right can make games better even ones that are already great.

Jandurin

Oh I know - 1st party games that " N " has done to death - yeah 250 bones will look like 1000 to buy the low tech Wii! ;)

I sure hope all the Wii fans who are so invested ( SW ) in moition control are the 1st to Jump In ;) I doubt it though as nowhere on the 360 does the name " Nintendo "appear - so sad. :(

MS won't make a MSmote until next gen, if at all.

Just termanologie my friend - the MSmote as I put it is already a peripheral - as of yet has not been used ( at least very well ) for moition sensing yet. And just for good measure a few more ;) ;) ;) LMAO

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

It reached out and appealed to a new audience

Eddie-Vedder

So did MTV

There's no point to the Wii if you don't use the Wii-mote. W/o the Wii-mote it's just last generation software.It's funny because you look at SSBB and it's one of the biggest games coming out for the Wii, yet it doesn't use the Wii-mote. I'd be mad if I owned a Wii and that was the case.MikeE21286

yes it does. It uses all controllers (wii remote side ways, Wii-remote+nunchuck, classic, and GC)

Try again.

To the TC, I hear what you're saying, but honestly, its the fact that N didnt do what YOU thought they could/would do, not so much that they promised something that didnt come to fruition. As the one poster stated, they only promised a few select things, and came through with them. Now, if you put more weight into what they said and it didnt come out the way you thought, then its moreof a personal letdown, not a Nintendo let everyone down fact.

For me, I am happy. I have some games I wanted, and enjoy them. I like the VC and know that time will bring us better games. N hasnt changed in 20 years as far as how they run their business, so why would you think that this time, they will do everythign diff and bring AAA game after AAA game back to back and so quickly.

There's no point to the Wii if you don't use the Wii-mote. W/o the Wii-mote it's just last generation software.It's funny because you look at SSBB and it's one of the biggest games coming out for the Wii, yet it doesn't use the Wii-mote. I'd be mad if I owned a Wii and that was the case.MikeE21286

Sheesh, you make it sound like a sin that a game be good because it's a good game, and not because of the Wiimote. Most of the time the controls make up a small part of a game to begin with.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]There's no point to the Wii if you don't use the Wii-mote. W/o the Wii-mote it's just last generation software.It's funny because you look at SSBB and it's one of the biggest games coming out for the Wii, yet it doesn't use the Wii-mote. I'd be mad if I owned a Wii and that was the case.NATATO

yes it does. It uses all controllers (wii remote side ways, Wii-remote+nunchuck, classic, and GC)

Try again.

Do you use the motion sensing (which is basically what the Wii-Mote is)? No......you try again. The fact that you can use all the controllers (even the GC one lol) is just a complete slap in the face to Wii-owners.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]There's no point to the Wii if you don't use the Wii-mote. W/o the Wii-mote it's just last generation software.It's funny because you look at SSBB and it's one of the biggest games coming out for the Wii, yet it doesn't use the Wii-mote. I'd be mad if I owned a Wii and that was the case.Jandurin

The point of the Wii is that it's a game console, not an OMGZIMUSTSWINGMYARMSORITSPOINTLESS console.

[QUOTE="specialed"]

[QUOTE="QWERTY20007"]wii is a horrible systym. it is not fun and i had two break on a friend. the first was because he dropped it in the water on accident and the next was because it turnd off while he was playing and threw it aginst the wall. it was not hard at all but it still broke. unrelible hardware is nintendos mottoEponique

R-I-G-H-T.........My car is crap b/c A) I drove it into a wall of a building and the stupid engine was smashed and cant be repaired and B) I drove it into a big puddle of mud and now all the seats are stained and i cant get the stains out...Man, my car sucks and I need to get a better car...

Roffles! Why did he bother posting that?! :lol:

You got me, man...:)

Do you use the motion sensing (which is basically what the Wii-Mote is)? No......you try again. The fact that you can use all the controllers (even the GC one lol) is just a complete slap in the face to Wii-owners. MikeE21286

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="specialed"]

[QUOTE="QWERTY20007"]wii is a horrible systym. it is not fun and i had two break on a friend. the first was because he dropped it in the water on accident and the next was because it turnd off while he was playing and threw it aginst the wall. it was not hard at all but it still broke. unrelible hardware is nintendos mottospecialed

R-I-G-H-T.........My car is crap b/c A) I drove it into a wall of a building and the stupid engine was smashed and cant be repaired and B) I drove it into a big puddle of mud and now all the seats are stained and i cant get the stains out...Man, my car sucks and I need to get a better car...

Roffles! Why did he bother posting that?! :lol:

You got me, man...:)

Sig worthy.

[QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]There's no point to the Wii if you don't use the Wii-mote. W/o the Wii-mote it's just last generation software.It's funny because you look at SSBB and it's one of the biggest games coming out for the Wii, yet it doesn't use the Wii-mote. I'd be mad if I owned a Wii and that was the case.MikeE21286

yes it does. It uses all controllers (wii remote side ways, Wii-remote+nunchuck, classic, and GC)

Try again.

Do you use the motion sensing (which is basically what the Wii-Mote is)? No......you try again. The fact that you can use all the controllers (even the GC one lol) is just a complete slap in the face to Wii-owners.

oops almost forgot ;)

[QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]There's no point to the Wii if you don't use the Wii-mote. W/o the Wii-mote it's just last generation software.It's funny because you look at SSBB and it's one of the biggest games coming out for the Wii, yet it doesn't use the Wii-mote. I'd be mad if I owned a Wii and that was the case.MikeE21286

yes it does. It uses all controllers (wii remote side ways, Wii-remote+nunchuck, classic, and GC)

Try again.

Do you use the motion sensing (which is basically what the Wii-Mote is)? No......you try again. The fact that you can use all the controllers (even the GC one lol) is just a complete slap in the face to Wii-owners.

Wait, slap in the face we have a choice to how we want to play? And your making it sound like the Wii-Remote controls won't use motion sensing in SSBB. Even though they havent released how exactly each control works, I'd put 100 bucks on that they will use motion sensing.

To NATATO:

The Wiimote obviously didn't enhance the game for some, ahem the quote I used maybe.....

And about lackluster titles on the Wii: Escape From Bug Island, reviewed in that same EGM, averaged out at a 2.6 for its score. NINTENDO HAS THE ABILITY TO STOP THAT. THEY AREN'T. They can look at a game, hate it, and yell "Go back to the drawing board!"

And this is working its way into my new sig: You've been calling it "Motion Censoring". That would mean that they are hiding motion. It's "Motion Sensing", because it detects motion. And you call yourself a sheep:lol:

pyoob

Wait, so now it's Nintendo's fault that there's a crappy game on their system? Wow.

[QUOTE="pyoob"]

To NATATO:

The Wiimote obviously didn't enhance the game for some, ahem the quote I used maybe.....

And about lackluster titles on the Wii: Escape From Bug Island, reviewed in that same EGM, averaged out at a 2.6 for its score. NINTENDO HAS THE ABILITY TO STOP THAT. THEY AREN'T. They can look at a game, hate it, and yell "Go back to the drawing board!"

And this is working its way into my new sig: You've been calling it "Motion Censoring". That would mean that they are hiding motion. It's "Motion Sensing", because it detects motion. And you call yourself a sheep:lol:

NATATO

Best you can do is insult my grammer, then your desperate for leverage.

Your making it sound like Nintendo is the only one with really poor games. EVERY SYSTEM HAS REALLY REALLY bad games! You want me to make a list of games MICROSOFT should of sent back to the drawing board?

Yeah, every console has sh*tty games, but games that are sh*tty on Wii are just that much worse becuase they have crappy graphics to boot. At least on the 360 version of Pirates Of the Carribean there were pretty decent graphics.

Ok, so Nintendo didn't specifically say that it would have great games, but it was more than obviously implied. You wouldn't sell a console without saying that it could do marvelous things in games. When you go out on a limb like Nintendo did with the Wii, you sure as hell better make sure that your consoleplays gameswhat it's supposed to do. And right now, Nintendo's console just isn't delivering on its abilities the way that the 360 is.

Ok, I'm dying now:lol:. 1st you spell Grammar wrong, 2nd it wasn't your grammar that was incorrect, it was your spelling/vocab.

And you're pulling things out of context, I stated points first THEN made fun of your "grammer". Highest priority in a post gets the highest positon in a post. That's how I look at it.

Why can you not grasp the fact that the Wii remote controls made RE4 and TP better?-The-G-Man-

That is your opinion, controls are totally opinion

The G Man

No, it's Nintendo's fault tht their games arent doing what they're supposed to do.

Why can you not grasp the fact that the Wii remote controls made RE4 and TP better?-The-G-Man-

This is system wars! Logic and reasoning have no value here

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Why can you not grasp the fact that the Wii remote controls made RE4 and TP better?MikeE21286

That is your opinion, controls are totally opinion

Many reviewers have said that the Wii remote controls made the games better.

[QUOTE="NATATO"][QUOTE="pyoob"]

To NATATO:

The Wiimote obviously didn't enhance the game for some, ahem the quote I used maybe.....

And about lackluster titles on the Wii: Escape From Bug Island, reviewed in that same EGM, averaged out at a 2.6 for its score. NINTENDO HAS THE ABILITY TO STOP THAT. THEY AREN'T. They can look at a game, hate it, and yell "Go back to the drawing board!"

And this is working its way into my new sig: You've been calling it "Motion Censoring". That would mean that they are hiding motion. It's "Motion Sensing", because it detects motion. And you call yourself a sheep:lol:

pyoob

Best you can do is insult my grammer, then your desperate for leverage.

Your making it sound like Nintendo is the only one with really poor games. EVERY SYSTEM HAS REALLY REALLY bad games! You want me to make a list of games MICROSOFT should of sent back to the drawing board?

Yeah, every console has sh*tty games, but games that are sh*tty on Wii are just that much worse becuase they have crappy graphics to boot. At least on the 360 version of Pirates Of the Carribean there were pretty decent graphics.

Ok, so Nintendo didn't specifically say that it would have great games, but it was more than obviously implied. You wouldn't sell a console without saying that it could do marvelous things in games. When you go out on a limb like Nintendo did with the Wii, you sure as hell better make sure that your consoleplays gameswhat it's supposed to do. And right now, Nintendo's console just isn't delivering on its abilities the way that the 360 is.

Ok, I'm dying now:lol:. 1st you spell Grammar wrong, 2nd it wasn't your grammar that was incorrect, it was your spelling/vocab.

And you're pulling things out of context, I stated points first THEN made fun of your "grammer". Highest priority in a post gets the highest positon in a post. That's how I look at it.

Darn, again I almost forgot ;)

Why can you not grasp the fact that the Wii remote controls made RE4 and TP better?-The-G-Man-

Why can you not grasp the fact that the Wii remote controls made RE4 and TP better?-The-G-Man-

He's taking spelling potshots, you can't expect him to grasp at much. Oops, did I make a personal jab at him, my bad.

The G Man

No, it's Nintendo's fault tht their games arent doing what they're supposed to do.

pyoob

Where the hell is a link that shows me this "promise" they made that their games would be amazing and that all of them would use the motion control to the fullest extent and there would be no bad games on their system? Because you sure seem to think this was their promise.

Their promise was to reach out to a new audience. That was it, and they're doing it.

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Why can you not grasp the fact that the Wii remote controls made RE4 and TP better?Vandalvideo

In all of the reviews (which are oh, so important on System Wars), it said that the controls made the games feel a lot better. Twilight Princess: aiming and the sword felt a lot better than pressing a button to swing or using the control stick to aim. RE4: it's been called the definitive version because of the control scheme.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]There's no point to the Wii if you don't use the Wii-mote. W/o the Wii-mote it's just last generation software.It's funny because you look at SSBB and it's one of the biggest games coming out for the Wii, yet it doesn't use the Wii-mote. I'd be mad if I owned a Wii and that was the case.NATATO

yes it does. It uses all controllers (wii remote side ways, Wii-remote+nunchuck, classic, and GC)

Try again.

Do you use the motion sensing (which is basically what the Wii-Mote is)? No......you try again. The fact that you can use all the controllers (even the GC one lol) is just a complete slap in the face to Wii-owners.

Wait, slap in the face we have a choice to how we want to play? And your making it sound like the Wii-Remote controls won't use motion sensing in SSBB. Even though they havent released how exactly each control works, I'd put 100 bucks on that they will use motion sensing.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl to Offer Control Options

For all the unique possibilities held within the Wii Remote (as well as its trusty sidekick, Nunchuk), it may not always be the best control option when it comes to established franchises or concepts. Masahiro Sakurai, director of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, recognized this potential conundrum and addressed it in a blog post this morning on the official Smash Bros. DOJO!! website.

"I suppose I would recommend the Nintendo GameCube controller, though," he said. :lol: :lol:

Ok, well I don't know why they'd use motion sensing if they were gonna also include the Gamecube controller as being compatible as well, seeing as how the Gamecube controller is does not have motion sensing.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Why can you not grasp the fact that the Wii remote controls made RE4 and TP better?-The-G-Man-

In all of the reviews (which are oh, so important on System Wars), it said that the controls made the games feel a lot better. Twilight Princess: aiming and the sword felt a lot better than pressing a button to swing or using the control stick to aim. RE4: it's been called the definitive version because of the control scheme.

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Why can you not grasp the fact that the Wii remote controls made RE4 and TP better?Vandalvideo

Super Smash Bros. Brawl to Offer Control Options

For all the unique possibilities held within the Wii Remote (as well as its trusty sidekick, Nunchuk), it may not always be the best control option when it comes to established franchises or concepts. Masahiro Sakurai, director of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, recognized this potential conundrum and addressed it in a blog post this morning on the official Smash Bros. DOJO!! website.

"I suppose I would recommend the Nintendo GameCube controller, though," he said. :lol: :lol:

Ok, well I don't know why they'd use motion sensing if they were gonna also include the Gamecube controller as being compatible as well, seeing as how the Gamecube controller is does not have motion sensing.

MikeE21286

They may use motion sensing a bit for the Wii remote for certain actions considering it does not have as many buttons as the Gamecube. I have no idea how this would work well, but the possibility is still there.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Why can you not grasp the fact that the Wii remote controls made RE4 and TP better?Jandurin

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Why can you not grasp the fact that the Wii remote controls made RE4 and TP better?Vandalvideo

In all of the reviews (which are oh, so important on System Wars), it said that the controls made the games feel a lot better. Twilight Princess: aiming and the sword felt a lot better than pressing a button to swing or using the control stick to aim. RE4: it's been called the definitive version because of the control scheme.

Controls are part of a game, are they not?

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Why can you not grasp the fact that the Wii remote controls made RE4 and TP better?Vandalvideo

In all of the reviews (which are oh, so important on System Wars), it said that the controls made the games feel a lot better. Twilight Princess: aiming and the sword felt a lot better than pressing a button to swing or using the control stick to aim. RE4: it's been called the definitive version because of the control scheme.

With this line of thought, the game should suffer no detremental effects should the control scheme be reduced to a single button.

[QUOTE="NATATO"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]There's no point to the Wii if you don't use the Wii-mote. W/o the Wii-mote it's just last generation software.It's funny because you look at SSBB and it's one of the biggest games coming out for the Wii, yet it doesn't use the Wii-mote. I'd be mad if I owned a Wii and that was the case.MikeE21286

yes it does. It uses all controllers (wii remote side ways, Wii-remote+nunchuck, classic, and GC)

Try again.

Do you use the motion sensing (which is basically what the Wii-Mote is)? No......you try again. The fact that you can use all the controllers (even the GC one lol) is just a complete slap in the face to Wii-owners.

Wait, slap in the face we have a choice to how we want to play? And your making it sound like the Wii-Remote controls won't use motion sensing in SSBB. Even though they havent released how exactly each control works, I'd put 100 bucks on that they will use motion sensing.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl to Offer Control Options

For all the unique possibilities held within the Wii Remote (as well as its trusty sidekick, Nunchuk), it may not always be the best control option when it comes to established franchises or concepts. Masahiro Sakurai, director of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, recognized this potential conundrum and addressed it in a blog post this morning on the official Smash Bros. DOJO!! website.

"I suppose I would recommend the Nintendo GameCube controller, though," he said. :lol: :lol:

Ok, well I don't know why they'd use motion sensing if they were gonna also include the Gamecube controller as being compatible as well, seeing as how the Gamecube controller is does not have motion sensing.

Lol just because a game can use a normal controller, doesn't mean it can't have motion sensoring. You said SSBB doesn't use the Wii remote, and it does and it will have motion sensoring. You lose.

Ok, well I don't know why they'd use motion sensing if they were gonna also include the Gamecube controller as being compatible as well, seeing as how the Gamecube controller is does not have motion sensing.

MikeE21286

They just got the technology not to long ago. Warioware and Wii sports are good examples because they didn't take that long to make.

When more games come out that were designed for the Wii like Mario Galaxy and Metroid then you can judge. most of the games designed now have the controller as an after thought.

What about Trauma Center, Madden Wii, and Excite truck? Those are games not possible on other systems (except excite truck which would be possible on PS3 I guess... but you wouldn't have rumble). And they are all great.

Plus your arguement applys to most PS3 and 360 games. They aren't great because of HD graphics and advanced physics, they're great because they're great games to begin with (or not great in the case of the PS3).

[QUOTE="NATATO"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]There's no point to the Wii if you don't use the Wii-mote. W/o the Wii-mote it's just last generation software.It's funny because you look at SSBB and it's one of the biggest games coming out for the Wii, yet it doesn't use the Wii-mote. I'd be mad if I owned a Wii and that was the case.MikeE21286

yes it does. It uses all controllers (wii remote side ways, Wii-remote+nunchuck, classic, and GC)

Try again.

Do you use the motion sensing (which is basically what the Wii-Mote is)? No......you try again. The fact that you can use all the controllers (even the GC one lol) is just a complete slap in the face to Wii-owners.

Wait, slap in the face we have a choice to how we want to play? And your making it sound like the Wii-Remote controls won't use motion sensing in SSBB. Even though they havent released how exactly each control works, I'd put 100 bucks on that they will use motion sensing.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl to Offer Control Options

For all the unique possibilities held within the Wii Remote (as well as its trusty sidekick, Nunchuk), it may not always be the best control option when it comes to established franchises or concepts. Masahiro Sakurai, director of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, recognized this potential conundrum and addressed it in a blog post this morning on the official Smash Bros. DOJO!! website.

"I suppose I would recommend the Nintendo GameCube controller, though," he said. :lol: :lol:

Ok, well I don't know why they'd use motion sensing if they were gonna also include the Gamecube controller as being compatible as well, seeing as how the Gamecube controller is does not have motion sensing.

So what's stopping it from using motion-sensing? I'm sure throwing an item would require motion-sensing...

Controls are part of a game, are they not?-The-G-Man-

Yup, and I didn't find any amazing new motion sensing features that drastically "made the game better". I merely found there to be a slightly more intuitive control scheme. That does not mean the game had changed.Vandalvideo

So you can't prove to me that the Wii version is the definitive version. Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]So you can't prove to me that the Wii version is the definitive version. Jandurin

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Controls are part of a game, are they not?Vandalvideo

How are controls not the core gameplay? Without them, you couldn't play the game at all.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]So you can't prove to me that the Wii version is the definitive version. Vandalvideo

I could ask you to prove Gamespot's opinion wrong as well if I wanted to.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]So you can't prove to me that the Wii version is the definitive version. Vandalvideo

The only thing I can do now is: Look at da salez of duh Wii Wii to see whatz izzors wrong with your opinion.

:P

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Controls are part of a game, are they not?-The-G-Man-

How are controls not the core gameplay? Without them, you couldn't play the game at all.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="NATATO"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]There's no point to the Wii if you don't use the Wii-mote. W/o the Wii-mote it's just last generation software.It's funny because you look at SSBB and it's one of the biggest games coming out for the Wii, yet it doesn't use the Wii-mote. I'd be mad if I owned a Wii and that was the case.NATATO

yes it does. It uses all controllers (wii remote side ways, Wii-remote+nunchuck, classic, and GC)

Try again.

Do you use the motion sensing (which is basically what the Wii-Mote is)? No......you try again. The fact that you can use all the controllers (even the GC one lol) is just a complete slap in the face to Wii-owners.

Wait, slap in the face we have a choice to how we want to play? And your making it sound like the Wii-Remote controls won't use motion sensing in SSBB. Even though they havent released how exactly each control works, I'd put 100 bucks on that they will use motion sensing.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl to Offer Control Options

For all the unique possibilities held within the Wii Remote (as well as its trusty sidekick, Nunchuk), it may not always be the best control option when it comes to established franchises or concepts. Masahiro Sakurai, director of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, recognized this potential conundrum and addressed it in a blog post this morning on the official Smash Bros. DOJO!! website.

"I suppose I would recommend the Nintendo GameCube controller, though," he said. :lol: :lol:

Ok, well I don't know why they'd use motion sensing if they were gonna also include the Gamecube controller as being compatible as well, seeing as how the Gamecube controller is does not have motion sensing.

Lol just because a game can use a normal controller, doesn't mean it can't have motion sensoring. You said SSBB doesn't use the Wii remote, and it does and it will have motion sensoring. You lose.

When I said the game would use the Wii-remote included the motion sensing part of it. What else is the Wii (and the Wii-remote) if not for motion sensing? Anyone can agree to that

And I even provdied a link that showed that the game supported all the controllers.

I didn't see anywhere in there where it mentioned motion sensing at all.