The Witcher 2 Leaked Online

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"] Shhh, let him have his moment. :)Seiki_sands

1. Link to Kinect exclusive? I read it was confirmed as Kinect compatible, not Kinect exclusive.

2. I assume you're talking about the lay-offs at Crytek Budapest? Those lay-offs occured because the responsibility for Codename Kingdoms was taken out of the hands of Budapest and placed in the hands of the main Crytek studio, Crytek Frankfurt. Your sarcastic insinuations that Crytek 2 performing poorly had anything to do with those lay-offs are unfounded and most likely backwards as it makes no sense that Crytek would shift development of a console exclusive from a subsidiary to their main studio if they were in any way hurt by their last effort on consoles.

Now it's their main project, because they don't even have the cash to fund a new one. It's MS money anyway.

Like Valve and Blizzard games, this is just something you just don't pirate. Its sad that games like this get leaked. Hopefully not pirated too much. Even on the torrent page there is a huge proportion of people telling not to pirate it.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="Seiki_sands"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] It was so successful, Crytek laid off their most productive subsidiary, and now their main project is a kinect 360 exclusive.

GeneralShowzer

1. Link to Kinect exclusive? I read it was confirmed as Kinect compatible, not Kinect exclusive.

2. I assume you're talking about the lay-offs at Crytek Budapest? Those lay-offs occured because the responsibility for Codename Kingdoms was taken out of the hands of Budapest and placed in the hands of the main Crytek studio, Crytek Frankfurt. Your sarcastic insinuations that Crytek 2 performing poorly had anything to do with those lay-offs are unfounded and most likely backwards as it makes no sense that Crytek would shift development of a console exclusive from a subsidiary to their main studio if they were in any way hurt by their last effort on consoles.

Now it's their main project, because they don't even have the cash to fund a new one. It's MS money anyway.

-- A developer coming out and saying they want seven million sales doesn't mean they'd consider it a failure if the game would sell any less.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

Like Valve and Blizzard games, this is just something you just don't pirate. Its sad that games like this get leaked. Hopefully not pirated too much. Even on the torrent page there is a huge proportion of people telling not to pirate it.

SkyWard20

Crytek expected to sell 7 million copies of Crysis 2. It was heavily marketed and the budget was huge. The game shipped 2 million, it will probably sell 2 million worldwide by the end of the year. It launched very poorly on the NPD chart. It will be gone from it this month. It's far from a success. And Crytek Budapest made Crysis Warhead. They fired them all and now they are making mobile games. Kingdoms was a thing on the side, a platform made by a subsidiary studio.

Now it's their main project, because they don't even have the cash to fund a new one. It's MS money anyway.

GeneralShowzer

While its not nice to see people loose there jobs I think a lot of gamers would like to see Crytek fail. They really did screw over their own audience.

There goes The Witcher 2's P.C market :( . PC pirates've no loyalty towards The Witcher 2 . CD Projekt better hurry with console release of The Witcher 2 ( Money , Fame awaits in console market ) :)

Crytek learnt it the hard way lol .

indzman

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

Like Valve and Blizzard games, this is just something you just don't pirate. Its sad that games like this get leaked. Hopefully not pirated too much. Even on the torrent page there is a huge proportion of people telling not to pirate it.

Advid-Gamer

Sad but doesn't every game get leaked before release nowadays? The game is pretty much guaranteed 2 million + in sales since thats what the first one sold being a brand new IP with word of mouth alone now you have a massively improved sequel with alot of hype behind it and while the game was leaked it wasn't cracked this won't affect sales much at all.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"] Shhh, let him have his moment. :)Seiki_sands

1. Link to Kinect exclusive? I read it was confirmed as Kinect compatible, not Kinect exclusive.

2. I assume you're talking about the lay-offs at Crytek Budapest? Those lay-offs occured because the responsibility for Codename Kingdoms was taken out of the hands of Budapest and placed in the hands of the main Crytek studio, Crytek Frankfurt. Your sarcastic insinuations that Crytek 2 performing poorly had anything to do with those lay-offs are unfounded and most likely backwards as it makes no sense that Crytek would shift development of a console exclusive from a subsidiary to their main studio if they were in any way hurt by their last effort on consoles.

You do realise that Crysis and Crysis Warhead has sold over 5million on PC? Crysis 2 on 3 platforms is not even half of that! Crytek's shift to the 360 among other things is about the cash thrown at them by MS.

Like Valve and Blizzard games, this is just something you just don't pirate. Its sad that games like this get leaked. Hopefully not pirated too much. Even on the torrent page there is a huge proportion of people telling not to pirate it.

ferret-gamer

So Valve and Blizzard games which are pretty much guaranteed to sell several millions of copies are the games that you "just don't pirate" meanwhile all the smaller dev's particular indie dev's where sales are not guaranteed and a bomb in sales could very well mean the end of a good developer its ok to pirate their games. All piracy is wrong and don't condone any sort of piracy but just wanted to point out the sillyness of that statement.

Well that sucks :(

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="Seiki_sands"]

1. Link to Kinect exclusive? I read it was confirmed as Kinect compatible, not Kinect exclusive.

2. I assume you're talking about the lay-offs at Crytek Budapest? Those lay-offs occured because the responsibility for Codename Kingdoms was taken out of the hands of Budapest and placed in the hands of the main Crytek studio, Crytek Frankfurt. Your sarcastic insinuations that Crytek 2 performing poorly had anything to do with those lay-offs are unfounded and most likely backwards as it makes no sense that Crytek would shift development of a console exclusive from a subsidiary to their main studio if they were in any way hurt by their last effort on consoles.

SkyWard20

Now it's their main project, because they don't even have the cash to fund a new one. It's MS money anyway.

-- A developer coming out and saying they want seven million sales doesn't mean they'd consider it a failure if the game would sell any less.

Look at it this way, Crysis expectations were met. They say that in an interview, in a year the expectations were met. And Crysis proved to have more legs than the average game.

They make Crytek Budampest, they fund Crysis Warhead . That sells great too.

Then they buy Crytek UK another studio.

And after Crysis 2 what to they do? They close **** down.

I've already paid for the game and just waiting for release, why haven't I been offered a digital copy if the game is already done? So pirates are once again getting the perks of illegal downloads, while we that pay waits. I can't understand why people are blaming the pirates, when I should have a game that i paid for months ago when it's done, not months later.

I've already paid for the game and just waiting for release, why haven't I been offered a digital copy if the game is already done? So pirates are once again getting the perks of illegal downloads, while we that pay waits. I can't understand why people are blaming the pirates, when I should have a game that i paid for months ago when it's done, not months later.

kaealy

Console games get leaked more often, but for some reason never get the same amount of news articles or threads.

Jankarcop

Yeah consolites like to make a big deal about it when its a PC game yet almost every single high profile game on consoles gets leaked at least a week early for both the 360 and the PS3. Whats even more strange is that consolites seem to think its PC gamers fault that someone leaked a game and not the insider who had access to it in the fist place in order to actually leak it.

[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]

They're also basically giving the enhanced edition of first game away for $5 on gog.com. If you haven't played it and you have a decent enough mahcine you shouldn't pass it up.

Elann2008

I would read them, if they would release Times of Contempt in English in my life time. I've read everything else. They just keep pushing it back. First it was to be released in the fall of 2010. Then April 2011 and now it pushed to sometime in 2012. I'll probably learn Polish before they'll release it.

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[QUOTE="indzman"]

There goes The Witcher 2's P.C market :( . PC pirates've no loyalty towards The Witcher 2 . CD Projekt better hurry with console release of The Witcher 2 ( Money , Fame awaits in console market ) :)

indzman

Wow. Really?

Yeah , its a fact .

Crytek learnt in the hard way with Crysis . See Crysis 2 now and its a commercial success :)

[QUOTE="Easyle"][QUOTE="tagyhag"] Shhh, let him have his moment. :)Advid-Gamer

The two of you need to wake up to the obvious that it's no longer 2006, and the state of PC gaming has been rapidly changing in the last five years.skrat_01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]The two of you need to wake up to the obvious that it's no longer 2006, and the state of PC gaming has been rapidly changing in the last five years.dakan45

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]The two of you need to wake up to the obvious that it's no longer 2006, and the state of PC gaming has been rapidly changing in the last five years.110million

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]The two of you need to wake up to the obvious that it's no longer 2006, and the state of PC gaming has been rapidly changing in the last five years.dakan45

Every game gets leaked at some point I think.

Just do your part and BUY the game. I know I will. They can still achieve the profits they deserve, we just have to do OUR part.

I think the other guy explained everything with steam, so thanks no further explanation needed. Perhaps there is more innovation nowdays but there is also less quality and less big devs on pc, leavig it on consoles. EVEN crytek. But then again someone got to start somewhere and so far both crysis 2 and fear 2 failed on consoles which first games have been pc oriented.

Like Valve and Blizzard games, this is just something you just don't pirate. Its sad that games like this get leaked. Hopefully not pirated too much. Even on the torrent page there is a huge proportion of people telling not to pirate it.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="BodyElite"]Yes it's fact. It's funny how everytime this has been said, hermits freak out and say it's nonsense. Yet they wonder why every PC developer has spinted to consoles.... Let's face it. Other than Blizzard games, PC gaming in the eyes of mainstream society is still viewed as geeky. Console gaming is currently accepted as the main form of entertainment in the worldBodyElite

1. Witcher2 is launching as an exclusive. You'll have to wait a while before you can play the inferior garbage version.

2. Just because its not mainstream or popular doens't mean it does not count. PC has 3x the exclusives than any given console.

3. The PC market grows every year, and is above each console individually. You have to combine the 3 to have a chance.

You are a PC gamer which is in denial. Everything I mentioned is a fact. Sure there's still exclusive PC developers left, but who are they? All the big companies have aborted ship with Crytek being the most recent. Hell, ask yourself why the Witcher 2 isn't PC exclusive like the first. Then read the topic title of this thread to get your answer. Hermits sit hunched over in their computer chairs on a cloud looking down on the console market, but quite frankly it's the other way around. Denial at it's finest. But of course you will read this and go off in a denial rage once againBodyElite

The PC has the most highest scoring exclusives then both HD twins combined, and is getting over 90+ exclusives this year alone, plus superior multiplats, superior free content (free mods), vastly superior visuals in all games, hence being the superior platform, by definition. That's fact. You bashing the PC because you can't accept that consoles are horribly outdated and a extremely limited form of gaming is not 'fact', but a childish rant by a consolite.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="indzman"]

There goes The Witcher 2's P.C market :( . PC pirates've no loyalty towards The Witcher 2 . CD Projekt better hurry with console release of The Witcher 2 ( Money , Fame awaits in console market ) :)

Crytek learnt it the hard way lol .

mattuk69

Yeah Yeah ... i'm a troll for saying Piracy destroying P.C gaming . Reports / News are a bunch of fools including me who highlinght PC piracy :lol:

You are a PC gamer which is in denial. Everything I mentioned is a fact. Sure there's still exclusive PC developers left, but who are they? All the big companies have aborted ship with Crytek being the most recent. Hell, ask yourself why the Witcher 2 isn't PC exclusive like the first. Then read the topic title of this thread to get your answer. Hermits sit hunched over in their computer chairs on a cloud looking down on the console market, but quite frankly it's the other way around. Denial at it's finest. But of course you will read this and go off in a denial rage once againBodyElite

The big PC developers? Which 'big' developers have not moved their IPs into multiplatform development? An extreme minority of them. Fact of the matter is, not just on the PC, but in large budget development on a whole, hitting profitable targets requires a larger audience. Quite frankly it's an expected lifes cycle of developers, and with the large amount of production values behind a game like TW2 it's no wonder they're going to develop it to other platforms, they would be silly not to.

This isn't to say this is a rarity, how many developers have ever maintained an exclusive status as their businesses grew? X-Com found it's way onto the Playstation with the likes of Red Alert and Diablo, the Unreal and Quake series flirted with console development on more than one occasion, as did Valve's IPs, even AoE of all games walked into console space, heck I can play Syndiacte of all games on the PSP. Yet this generation I can play a predominately console centric IP like Street Fighter 4 Arcade on the PC, as well as Dead Rising 2 which were further removed from the PC space of traditional genre.

Fact of the matter is game development for high risk, large budget games do require multiplatform development, if not that, then serious incentives to stay focused on a single platform.

I'm sure if CD-Projekt didn't have their GOG.com infrastructure and other digital portals to sell their game, they would have aimed entirely for a multiplatform release. It's a matter of business direction, and not one that is at all entirely successful.

Crytek for instance had every reason to develop Crysis 2 as a multiplatform game, they wanted to develop their IP into a cross platform one with substantial financial weight; and so far the move was utterly underwhelming considering the budget backing the title, and the NPD results.

It's a higher risk game, developing a large budget, simple as that, and due to the speed of which digital space and alternate business methods have opened up on the PC, things are quite healthy on the platform - creative titles that aren't reliant on reaching large targets and flourish. A game like DSC A-10 can actually exist alongside Farmville and StarCraft 2; the console space is yet to hit this - and undoubtedly, in the next generation it should get much better, Which is why your argument is a nice laugh.

Hermits are like any fanboy, same goes back and fourth - lemmings and cows look down on sheep, who bite back on their own terms; if you're going to listen to any of them you should coat their words in salt.

Hermits sit hunched over their computers in their bedrooms, and their console brethren slouch on the mattress in their basement, I'm not in denial I fully embrace the stereotype for what it is - a stereotype, and a great one at that.

So please, I'd enjoy reading a well rounded counter argument, and have an actual debate, put your tinted spectacles back on and you'll see I've got all the time in the world while I read through a stained second edition D&D rulebook and shake my fist at those ignorant children having fun playing Mario Kart Wii.

[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="agpickle"]

Wow. Really?

BodyElite

Yeah , its a fact .

Crytek learnt in the hard way with Crysis . See Crysis 2 now and its a commercial success :)

So ... you game based on perception of others?

I guess we can't all like Mozart ... somebody has to buy the Brittney ...

I think the other guy explained everything with steam, so thanks no further explanation needed. Perhaps there is more innovation nowdays but there is also less quality and less big devs on pc, leavig it on consoles. EVEN crytek. But then again someone got to start somewhere and so far both crysis 2 and fear 2 failed on consoles which first games have been pc oriented.

dakan45

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Killzone 3 was leaked before its release date. The full version of Crysis 2 was first leaked on consoles. Consoles get leaks all the time.indzman

Yeah Yeah ... i'm a troll for saying Piracy destroying P.C gaming . Reports / News are a bunch of fools including me who highlinght PC piracy :lol:

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

Like Valve and Blizzard games, this is just something you just don't pirate. Its sad that games like this get leaked. Hopefully not pirated too much. Even on the torrent page there is a huge proportion of people telling not to pirate it.

Birdy09

Not entirely relevant to this thread, but The Witcher 2 has now been *officially* 'leaked' online - preloads for preorders are available off gog.com.

My 10gb download has already finished! :o

PC gaming is long dead , most PC gamers who can afford consoles've turned console gamers and enjoying exclusive console titles , some remaining and new PC gamers loving and defending PC ( in course of time they'll also turn to consoles in the long run seeiing major titles releasing for consoles , PC hardware getting obsolete every year , freinds enjoying on consoles ) .

Console gaming is the future and wisest decision for gamers .

To enjoy gaming , console is the way .

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

Like Valve and Blizzard games, this is just something you just don't pirate. Its sad that games like this get leaked. Hopefully not pirated too much. Even on the torrent page there is a huge proportion of people telling not to pirate it.

MrSelf-Destruct

PC gaming is long dead , most PC gamers who can afford consoles've turned console gamers and enjoying exclusive console titles , some remaining and new PC gamers loving and defending PC ( in course of time they'll also turn to consoles in the long run seeiing major titles releasing for consoles , PC hardware getting obsolete every year , freinds enjoying on consoles ) .

Console gaming is the future and wisest decision for gamers .

To enjoy gaming , console is the way .

indzman

Than hating on / quoting Indzman ...

Be wise and think do you want to enjoy games or go on fighting on and on on Sysyem Wars ? .

Be a smart gamer , 've a Gaming P.C , buy your choicest consoles , 've fun playing them than wasting time on system wars or feeling bad about console games not releasing on PC .

Than hating on / quoting Indzman ...

Be wise and think do you want to enjoy games or go on fighting on and on on Sysyem Wars ? .

Be a smart gamer , 've a Gaming P.C , buy your choicest consoles , 've fun playing them than wasting time on system wars or feeling bad about console games not releasing on PC .

indzman