The X360 port of Dark Souls is heavily compressed to stay on one disc

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#201 Ninja_Odin
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[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] yes and? compression is vital in game development that doesn't make it last gen or anythingThe_RedLion

then explain why it doesnt need to be compressed on blu ray.

because blu ray has more storage?

Don't care..unless it looks horrible on 360 which i doubt.
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#202 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"] then explain why it doesnt need to be compressed on blu ray.Ninja_Odin

because blu ray has more storage?

Don't care..unless it looks horrible on 360 which i doubt.

DS was only 5.8 GB, so this is the last game that would look worst on 360
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#203 HAZE-Unit
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Another nail in the 360's coffin.

I will get the superior version.

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#204 omho88
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Enough with this, who cares about compression and these stuff? any person who is wel informed enough will get the PS3 version .... I am trying to cool things down :P .

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#205 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Good, so it fits on one DVD, I don't see the problem.Doolz2024

And will be inferior because of it. Don't see how it being on one disc is a good thing if quality is sacrificed.

I wanted to get this game on the 360, but with this news, I shall buy it on PS3.

Good GOD, you probably won't even notice...

People are like there's no difference between PC and console games, yet you can find difference between X360 and PS3 games, WTH?

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#206 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Good, so it fits on one DVD, I don't see the problem.Bebi_vegeta

And will be inferior because of it. Don't see how it being on one disc is a good thing if quality is sacrificed.

I wanted to get this game on the 360, but with this news, I shall buy it on PS3.

Good GOD, you probably won't even notice...

People are like there's no difference between PC and console games, yet you can find difference between X360 and PS3 games, WTH?

It's funny because console gamers say that too. lol
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#207 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]And will be inferior because of it. Don't see how it being on one disc is a good thing if quality is sacrificed.

I wanted to get this game on the 360, but with this news, I shall buy it on PS3.

DragonfireXZ95

Good GOD, you probably won't even notice...

People are like there's no difference between PC and console games, yet you can find difference between X360 and PS3 games, WTH?

It's funny because console gamers say that too. lol

Well that's where I was geting at lol

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#208 Doolz2024
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Good, so it fits on one DVD, I don't see the problem.Bebi_vegeta

And will be inferior because of it. Don't see how it being on one disc is a good thing if quality is sacrificed.

I wanted to get this game on the 360, but with this news, I shall buy it on PS3.

Good GOD, you probably won't even notice...

People are like there's no difference between PC and console games, yet you can find difference between X360 and PS3 games, WTH?

If differences are negligible as you are suggesting, then I may reconsider. The 360 is my preferred console for multiplats, but if the PS3 version is noticeably superior I will buy it for PS3.

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#209 Microsoft1234
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"] because it breaks the flow if you have to get up and switch discs?hofuldig

omg teh horror :roll:

seriously, pressing the pause button would be a bigger shame than that, lol

If we halfto get up to switch disks might as well not even have wireless controllers.

the fact that people still use wireless is laughable, of course people use hdtvs for online multiplayer so I'm not surprised. Single player I'll use either, but multiplayer? Hell No

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#210 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]And will be inferior because of it. Don't see how it being on one disc is a good thing if quality is sacrificed.

I wanted to get this game on the 360, but with this news, I shall buy it on PS3.

Doolz2024

Good GOD, you probably won't even notice...

People are like there's no difference between PC and console games, yet you can find difference between X360 and PS3 games, WTH?

If differences are negligible as you are suggesting, then I may reconsider. The 360 is my preferred console for multiplats, but if the PS3 version is noticeably superior I will buy it for PS3.

I'm just saying... console gamers laugh at PC gamers cause we get ports with better resolution and etc... but then when we compare X360 and PS3 there's a difference... just makes no sense how logic works in system wars.

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#211 arredondo
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lol 1st ppl laughin for too many disc.. now ppl are laughin because itsonly 1 disc..? im so confused AAAAAAAAA

lqcevox
People will stop 'laughin' when these type of games with a lot of content are on one disc AND not heavily compressed (i.e. Blu ray games).
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#212 NanoMan88
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I dont see the point, blueray will be dead soon once DD becomes the norm, especially int he gaming industry, publishers are tired of used game sales.

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#213 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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I dont see the point, blueray will be dead soon once DD becomes the norm, especially int he gaming industry, publishers are tired of used game sales.

NanoMan88

Is it really going to be soon though? DD alienates a large ammount of your potential customers as it limits your service pretty much exclusively to those who can obtain and afford fast internet speeds. Think the PS2 would still be selling in South America right know if it was DD only? All i know is that here in Britain it ain't gonna take offuntil after the nextgen of consoles considering how the government has cut spending and only just got an internet service out to most homes. I'd have thought the situation would be the same across much of Europe and you can't even think about the less developed countries where sales are made towards the end of a console's life cycle. I can only see DD alongside a disc format and the future top dog for discs is Bluray.

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#214 Steppy_76
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"] I did say that DD is starting to make Blu Ray outdated. DD still has a ways to go because of some limitations, but once it over comes them then, yes, it will make all physical media outdated.

My point was that defending DVD in 2011 is like defending CD-Rom in 2005.

Stevo_the_gamer

That's because saying so would be false, it's not "starting" ... it already made it outdated quite some time ago.

Is Bluray as a whole better than DVD? Yes(though the slow drive in the PS3 negates much of the advantage bluray has). Does that make DVD outdated? No. The fact that here we are in 2011 and the only difference between the two formats is a handful of multidisc games and a slightly bigger handful of mandatory install games shows that DVD holds up just fine, and by the time it can't the 360 isn't going to be MS's system. None of what has been presented has shown MS was anything but completely correct in its belief that DVD was just fine for this gen. Nobody is defending DVD in 2011, as a system coming out today with an expected 5+ year lifespan from now would be a mistake and I doubt any lemmings would argue that point...however a system released in 2005 with a successor on the horizon not using DVD is a completely different animal. If this was a normal gen the 360 would be months away from a big brother and no compelling reason showing the PS3's bluray results superior.

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#215 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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So it's like any other game this gen?

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#216 tamabeast04
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Most of Those free PS3 games in the welcome back section could fit on a DVD. Sony didnt need Bluray for games they needed Blu-ray to win a movie format war thats why its in the PS3. The data is duplicated across the disc many times to avoid huge load times.

mynamesdenvrmax

LBP and infamous both have PCM soundtracks. There is no way the game and the sound track would have fit on a dvd... just not happening...

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#217 tormentos
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[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] yes and? compression is vital in game development that doesn't make it last gen or anythingWilliamRLBaker

then explain why it doesnt need to be compressed on blu ray.

*laughs hard* do you know that a game truely uncompressed wouldn't fit on even a 10 layer bluray? compression is a natural function of games without it every thing would be drastically large, and not only that wouldn't even play cause the ram would fill up.

P.S: and I just thought of the load times even with a required install the game would take hours to load.

The PS3 there is little compression done,is not like and uncompressed game would take 300 GB,compression on 360 is heavy extremely heavy compare to PS3.
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#218 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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The PS3 there is little compression done,is not like and uncompressed game would take 300 GB,compression on 360 is heavy extremely heavy compare to PS3.tormentos
Considering that most PS3 games are around 9GB, I find hard to believe that there's a significant difference between the amount of compression of most PS3 and 360 games.
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#219 arredondo
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^^^ If you haven't noticed, games are growing in size since the X360 launched eons ago. This problem will continue to be an issue forcing multiple discs or heavily compressed data or the gimping of game design fit for Blu-ray so it all fits on the lowly DVD.

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#220 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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^^^ If you haven't noticed, games are growing in size since the X360 launched eons ago. This problem will continue to be an issue forcing multiple discs or heavily compressed data or the gimping of game design fit for Blu-ray so it all fits on the lowly DVD.

larshaun

I see nothing that indicates that. We get two or three multi-disc games per year (from the more than 100 that are released every year for the 360), and with Sony themselves saying that most PS3 games are 9GB, I see no reason to believe games are growing in size or that DVD is somehow compromising game design.

And even if it were, it shouldn't be an issue, since devs can always just use another DVD if they need more space. But the vast majority of games don't use another DVD, indicating that such a need simply doesn't exist.

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#221 themyth01
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[QUOTE="lqcevox"]

lol 1st ppl laughin for too many disc.. now ppl are laughin because itsonly 1 disc..? im so confused AAAAAAAAA

larshaun
People will stop 'laughin' when these type of games with a lot of content are on one disc AND not heavily compressed (i.e. Blu ray games).

A lot of content? you must be thinking of something else. Heavily compressed? all games are compressed to some degree, it's better in just about everything except sound. What was your point again?
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#223 thinicer
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I heard these same arguments about DVD being a last-gen format five years ago.

Blu-Ray is nice to have, but it wasn't the game-breaker that people thought it was going to be when the PS3 came to market, at least when it came to the video game industry. Movie formats, on the other hand....

People are making fun of the 360 using a last-gen format, but the reality is that the choice of sticking to DVD may have been the reason why Microsoft gained such considerable market share this generation compared to last and became far more profitable. With DVD, the 360 was the cheaper console. Even with the huge RROD problem, Microsoft still has the edge over Sony right now in consoles sold and software sold.

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#224 KevinButlerVP
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[QUOTE="larshaun"][QUOTE="lqcevox"]

lol 1st ppl laughin for too many disc.. now ppl are laughin because itsonly 1 disc..? im so confused AAAAAAAAA

themyth01

People will stop 'laughin' when these type of games with a lot of content are on one disc AND not heavily compressed (i.e. Blu ray games).

A lot of content? you must be thinking of something else. Heavily compressed? all games are compressed to some degree, it's better in just about everything except sound. What was your point again?

content gets cut from games to compensate for the 360, look at L.A. Noire and FFXIII-2

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#225 mythrol
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I already pre-ordered the PS3 version. It's all about picking which system has the better version. Dark Souls was pretty easy to guess saying the first game was PS3 exclusive. Still, I'm happy 360 only owners get a chance to play this awesome game series. The first truly was amazing. I still have yet to find another game that makes each weapon type feel so different.
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#226 trollop_scat
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360 owners are just lucky to get DS. The fact its on just one disk is an added bonus. You lemmings are in for a treat...

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#227 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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content gets cut from games to compensate for the 360, look at L.A. Noire and FFXIII-2KevinButlerVP
FFXIII-2 has a little problem (it's unreleased), and no one has proven content was taken out of L.A. Noire because of DVD. And even if it were true (which hasn't been proven), that's two games in more than 5 years.
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#228 Cloud567kar
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Another nail in the 360's coffin.

I will get the superior version.

HAZE-Unit

360 isnt anywhere near dead soooo

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#229 ratchet_usa
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Another nail in the 360's coffin.

I will get the superior version.

Cloud567kar

360 isnt anywhere near dead soooo

In Japan it is.