The Xbox One most likely will run games better than PS4.

Shut up.

Your first paragraph is mitigated by Sony's exact same steps, Sony has a cutom prepared chip from AMD for.. something and is very well thought out, they were in talks with developers for about 2 years on how to make a very good console, asking them what they want, what they need and what they don't want. You make it sound like Sony just opened a large box of assorted parts and started screwing parts together and said "Look it's finished!".JohnF111

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.AmazonTreeBoa

Nope.heeweesRus

AmazonTreeBoa

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Your first paragraph is mitigated by Sony's exact same steps, Sony has a cutom prepared chip from AMD for.. something and is very well thought out, they were in talks with developers for about 2 years on how to make a very good console, asking them what they want, what they need and what they don't want. You make it sound like Sony just opened a large box of assorted parts and started screwing parts together and said "Look it's finished!".Jakandsigz

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="JohnF111"]Your first paragraph is mitigated by Sony's exact same steps, Sony has a cutom prepared chip from AMD for.. something and is very well thought out, they were in talks with developers for about 2 years on how to make a very good console, asking them what they want, what they need and what they don't want. You make it sound like Sony just opened a large box of assorted parts and started screwing parts together and said "Look it's finished!".JohnF111

My PC will run games better than both.

My PC will run games better than both.

pelvist

My PC will run games better than both.

pelvist

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.AmazonTreeBoa

People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.Jakandsigz

sucks Project sparks has some major performance issues right now

sucks no developer has shown any multiplat game on a XB1 right now for obvious reasons

sucks Forza 5 doesnt render all of its game in 60 fps

these consoles both have same amd hardware

Jaguar vs Jaguar

GCN vs GCN 

PS4 GPU has 50% more shader performance with volitalie bit cacher to improve simulatenious shader and compute performance

has 6 more CU's and 16 more ROPS

this is the dumbest thread i have seen in a while

ps4 games are performing better and look better

check out the new AC4 gameplay running on PS4, it looks absolutely spectacular and runs at a buttery smooth 30 fps the whole way through

Jennifer, a developer from Ubisoft Reflections already said the XB1 wont hold back the ps4 and PC 

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.Jakandsigz

no ps4 game is running at 15 fps (dead rising 3) or having major stutters like Project Sparks is

dumb thread made by a blind lem... how sad.

I came into this thread expecting no proof or a valid source and as usual System Wars delivered.

dumb thread made by a blind lem... how sad.

ManatuBeard

still find it hilarious no developers have shown multiplat games on XB1 yet besides BF4 which was running on a Nvidia GTX .... hmmm i wonder why???

Digital Foundy already reported devs are still trying to improve performance out the XB1 and still have ways to go, ps4 development environment is months ahead of XB1 

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] If there is NOTHING there and it still can't run a 60FPS that's bad. You clearly have no idea how development works. You basically just said cars driving around flat colored polygons with no textures that can;t reach 60FPS is ok.Jakandsigz

still find it hilarious no developers have shown multiplat games on XB1 yet besides BF4 which was running on a Nvidia GTX .... hmmm i wonder why???

 

Digital Foundy already reported devs are still trying to improve performance out the XB1 and still have ways to go, ps4 development environment is months ahead of XB1 

xboxiphoneps3

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

still find it hilarious no developers have shown multiplat games on XB1 yet besides BF4 which was running on a Nvidia GTX .... hmmm i wonder why???

 

Digital Foundy already reported devs are still trying to improve performance out the XB1 and still have ways to go, ps4 development environment is months ahead of XB1 

Jakandsigz

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] quite a big difference between static lighting, closed off circuits, static backgrounds, tons of lens flare/HDR Forza 5 compared to a open world game Drive Club with real next gen effects such as Global illumination and day/night cycles and bunch of other stuffxboxiphoneps3

Who didn't know this already? .....Sony talks the talk but never walks it. Multiplat will continue to be better on the xbox console. 

TC is abousetly correct.

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

still find it hilarious no developers have shown multiplat games on XB1 yet besides BF4 which was running on a Nvidia GTX .... hmmm i wonder why???

 

Digital Foundy already reported devs are still trying to improve performance out the XB1 and still have ways to go, ps4 development environment is months ahead of XB1 

xboxiphoneps3

[QUOTE="pelvist"]

My PC will run games better than both.

Jakandsigz

No but its in a reply to the topic title. Problem?

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] So you're saying all MP's shown AFTER E3 does not count? Why? Oh, fanboy, forgot sorry.Jakandsigz

3 letters.. Lol

Most lems beleive this cuz of Microsofts Cloud service Azure but with little informaiton about Sony cloud service Gakui (or however its spelled, haha) we just dont know what it Gaikui wil be able to do other than streaming old ps1-ps3 gamesPS4TrumpsXbox1

Xbox One Cloud VS PS4 Cloud

http://videogamesandnews.com/xbox-one-cloud-a-pr-gimmick-or-the-real-deal/

SONY HAS NO SHOT AT BEATING MS! 

[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"]Most lems beleive this cuz of Microsofts Cloud service Azure but with little informaiton about Sony cloud service Gakui (or however its spelled, haha) we just dont know what it Gaikui wil be able to do other than streaming old ps1-ps3 gamesFar_RockNYC

Xbox One Cloud VS PS4 Cloud

http://videogamesandnews.com/xbox-one-cloud-a-pr-gimmick-or-the-real-deal/

SONY HAS NO SHOT AT BEATING MS! 

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.AmazonTreeBoa

took the word right out of my mouth.

Most lems beleive this cuz of Microsofts Cloud service Azure but with little informaiton about Sony cloud service Gakui (or however its spelled, haha) we just dont know what it Gaikui wil be able to do other than streaming old ps1-ps3 gamesPS4TrumpsXbox1

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] they havent shown any MP after E3 on XB1, only PS4xboxiphoneps3

xbox will be competing against wii u this time,