The Xbox One most likely will run games better than PS4.

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#201 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.Jakandsigz

You make a good point and I think that there could...penus.

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#202 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

yeha like Driveclub and Killzone lol

xboxiphoneps3

 

Although you and the other guy are fanbobs of either console, iphonepsxteme stupid name is hypocritical, i pointed out all the flaws in a single .GIF and video.

 

KZ has framedrops, random ones at that, and even has terrible veiw distances, and draw distances.

Both consoles are far from perfect, and all games have to be cut down to some degree on a console, this is just common sense.

how is my name hypocritical? you dont know shit bro you compared nvidia architecture to amd architecture yesterday LOL claiming GDDR3 is somehow better then GDDR5, and what is your point? your beloved Crysis series has pop in issues too, QQ more big boy you dont know shit, get off your alt and go on your real account. unfinished game is unfinished, if the finished game still has the same thing, then you can talk

 

 

Wow, you really cannot read at all.

 

Alt??

 

DC more.

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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

Although you and the other guy are fanbobs of either console, iphonepsxteme stupid name is hypocritical, i pointed out all the flaws in a single .GIF and video.

 

KZ has framedrops, random ones at that, and even has terrible veiw distances, and draw distances.

Both consoles are far from perfect, and all games have to be cut down to some degree on a console, this is just common sense.

AMD655

how is my name hypocritical? you dont know shit bro you compared nvidia architecture to amd architecture yesterday LOL claiming GDDR3 is somehow better then GDDR5, and what is your point? your beloved Crysis series has pop in issues too, QQ more big boy you dont know shit, get off your alt and go on your real account. unfinished game is unfinished, if the finished game still has the same thing, then you can talk

 

 

Wow, you really cannot read at all.

 

Alt??

 

DC more.

no damage control has to be done, only by the lemmings. i dont DC, just facts bro...
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#204 Ricardomz
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Doubt it.

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#205 CorruptAndrew
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People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.Jakandsigz
your a dumb ****

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#206 Gargus
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People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.Jakandsigz

I see you have stated this all as if it were a fact, yet did not provide one shred of proof.

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#207 Big_Pecks
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"Most likely"

The 2nd post took my exact same reaction.  

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#208 silversix_
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X1 games will run poorly because of weak hardware and way too much resources is being used for their "access all this bullshit in a click of a button" so deal with it.
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#209 tormentos
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The XBOX oNE is CLEARLY having an easier time with game OUTPUT and games running than the PS4, which focused most of its tech on dev kits.Jakandsigz

 

No some xbox one games are been build like last gen games with faked effects,specially those target at 60FPS.

 

The only reason Drive Club is not running at 60FPS is because Drive Club is doing everything in real time,no baked lighting or car damage,look at Titan Fall it looks average at best,static environments dull buildings is a joke.

 

The games that push the hardware even a little don't run so good,take a look at Dead Rising as low as 15 FPS.

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#210 xscrapzx
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To me personally, brining up a subject such as this and even trying to debate it is like trying to find a ghost. This is just a silly topic to begin with. if you have played on a console for a long time or have had gaming for a hobby for a while you would know that really at the end of the day the difference in performance and graphics between the two are going to be so minute it is not even worth discussing. Yes, both will have their master pieces and for the next 8 years there will be arguments on which is graphically superior, but really its not even worth debating. They both will end up running really well and both will have great looking games, one will have a slight edge here and the other there. But really nothing to boast about.

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#211 mitu123
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To me personally, brining up a subject such as this and even trying to debate it is like trying to find a ghost. This is just a silly topic to begin with. if you have played on a console for a long time or have had gaming for a hobby for a while you would know that really at the end of the day the difference in performance and graphics between the two are going to be so minute it is not even worth discussing. Yes, both will have their master pieces and for the next 8 years there will be arguments on which is graphically superior, but really its not even worth debating. They both will end up running really well and both will have great looking games, one will have a slight edge here and the other there. But really nothing to boast about.

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Now that's just too much logic for SW to handle!
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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] The XBOX oNE is CLEARLY having an easier time with game OUTPUT and games running than the PS4, which focused most of its tech on dev kits.tormentos

 

No some xbox one games are been build like last gen games with faked effects,specially those target at 60FPS.

 

The only reason Drive Club is not running at 60FPS is because Drive Club is doing everything in real time,no baked lighting or car damage,look at Titan Fall it looks average at best,static environments dull buildings is a joke.

 

The games that push the hardware even a little don't run so good,take a look at Dead Rising as low as 15 FPS.

and Titanfall, DR3 and few other games werent even running at 1080p according to DF, and Ryse has pre-rendered scenes confirmed by DF
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] The XBOX oNE is CLEARLY having an easier time with game OUTPUT and games running than the PS4, which focused most of its tech on dev kits.xboxiphoneps3

 

No some xbox one games are been build like last gen games with faked effects,specially those target at 60FPS.

 

The only reason Drive Club is not running at 60FPS is because Drive Club is doing everything in real time,no baked lighting or car damage,look at Titan Fall it looks average at best,static environments dull buildings is a joke.

 

The games that push the hardware even a little don't run so good,take a look at Dead Rising as low as 15 FPS.

and Titanfall, DR3 and few other games werent even running at 1080p according to DF, and Ryse has pre-rendered scenes confirmed by DF

Where did DF said that about DR3?

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#214 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

To me personally, brining up a subject such as this and even trying to debate it is like trying to find a ghost. This is just a silly topic to begin with. if you have played on a console for a long time or have had gaming for a hobby for a while you would know that really at the end of the day the difference in performance and graphics between the two are going to be so minute it is not even worth discussing. Yes, both will have their master pieces and for the next 8 years there will be arguments on which is graphically superior, but really its not even worth debating. They both will end up running really well and both will have great looking games, one will have a slight edge here and the other there. But really nothing to boast about.

mitu123
Now that's just too much logic for SW to handle!

Realistically though, this has only happened for one generation since the 16 bit days. PS2 wasn't anywhere on par with the Xbox and the N64 had many limitations vs the PS1 due to still using cartridges.
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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] Sony made development for the PS4 easy. Not ne has said it's easy t run games. They focused on open development, and yet, they are clearly having issues with output. They have devs have acess to all this stuff to make their lives easier, and yet, games like DC are struggling to get 60 FPS even in beta.

"even in beta" - That's because it's a testing stage you halfwit. That's like saying "Teh PS4 is terriblez teh game doesn't even load derrp!!" when the developers haven't even started making it.

If there is NOTHING there and it still can't run a 60FPS that's bad. You clearly have no idea how development works. You basically just said cars driving around flat colored polygons with no textures that can;t reach 60FPS is ok.

I guess the xbone and ps4 suck then, because my 12 year old pc can run counterstrike at 100 fps.
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#216 zeeshanhaider
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I just can't understand why some people just do and accept the simple math. PS4 > X1. The specs don't lie.

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#217 FragTycoon
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So basically you're saying "I really want XBO to run games better even though everything known about the consoles says it wont"

Good luck? I guess? :?

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#218 ManatuBeard
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I just can't understand why some people just do and accept the simple math. PS4 > X1. The specs don't lie.

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Because it would destroy their personal view and understanding of the world .

Basic psychology.

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#219 StrongBlackVine
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What a moronic topic based on nothing but desperate hope

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#220 shellcase86
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Doubtful. Regardless, they should all run nigh identical.

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#221 ManatuBeard
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Doubtful. Regardless, they should all run nigh identical.

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They probably will, mainly because comparing screenshots is not like comparing the real moving gameplay.

PS4 games will be native 1080p and X1 will most likely be 900p upscaled to 1080p.

Its impossible to notice quality difference between 900p and 1080p during gameplay, unlike what happened this gen with 360@720p and ps3@640p that was noticeable.

X1 games might also have slightly less visual effects later in the gen, but again, nearly un-noticeable.

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#222 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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Its impossible to notice quality difference between 900p and 1080p during gameplay, unlike what happened this gen with 360@720p and ps3@640p that was noticeable.




BLIND

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#223 ManatuBeard
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Its impossible to notice quality difference between 900p and 1080p during gameplay, unlike what happened this gen with 360@720p and ps3@640p that was noticeable.




BLIND

AMD655

Consider the average gamer for this purpose.... Not experienced nerds...

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#224 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

Its impossible to notice quality difference between 900p and 1080p during gameplay, unlike what happened this gen with 360@720p and ps3@640p that was noticeable.




BLIND

ManatuBeard

Consider the average gamer for this purpose.... Not experienced nerds...

 

Definitely BLIND.

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#225 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

So does SONY... Except the xbox ONE's "special custom made, specific-buit, contract agreed contructed AMD chip and GPU" are to patch up deficiencies with their hardware, not to give it a boost from the vanilla AMD chips... In fact, it'll probably performance WORSE than the vanilla AMD 7750.

The PS4's customization is to optimize the vanilla AMD chips for more efficiency.

Sonysexual1

That would be embarrassing if that happens.:lol:

It's already happening.

I'm using an AMD 7770 with 2 GB of GDDR5 VRAM and it runs most of the latest games at 20-30 FPS at 1080p with high/ultra settings.

The xbox ONE is struggling to run a source engine game at sub-1080p. 

AMD Trinity A10-4600 can gimp a 7970M (about 680M level) down to GT650 levels.
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#226 SambaLele
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TC, sorry, but you have no arguments. Everything is indicanting the contrary of that you're saying. Now all we can do is wait and see if better GPU + GDDR5 RAM will result in games running better on the PS4. Plus, saying that a console is easier to make games to actually means that they'll be able to make them run better with less efforts, not the contrary as you're implicating. That so basic that it's hard to understand where you're coming from.