The Xbox One most likely will run games better than PS4.

[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"]Most lems beleive this cuz of Microsofts Cloud service Azure but with little informaiton about Sony cloud service Gakui (or however its spelled, haha) we just dont know what it Gaikui wil be able to do other than streaming old ps1-ps3 gamesFar_RockNYC

Xbox One Cloud VS PS4 Cloud

http://videogamesandnews.com/xbox-one-cloud-a-pr-gimmick-or-the-real-deal/

SONY HAS NO SHOT AT BEATING MS! 

xbox will be competing against wii u this time,

Krelian-co

People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.Jakandsigz

This^

Is utter rubbish!:lol:

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.clr84651

This^

Is utter rubbish!:lol:

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

KillzoneSnake

Dead rising 3 at 15 fps, so it would probably run around 5 fps for shadow fall

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

KillzoneSnake

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

ramonnl

Dead rising 3 at 15 fps, so it would probably run around 5 fps for shadow fall

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.Jakandsigz

This^

Is utter rubbish!:lol:

[QUOTE="ramonnl"]

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

ShoTTyMcNaDeS

Dead rising 3 at 15 fps, so it would probably run around 5 fps for shadow fall

Actually, I think you have it the other way around.

The xbox ONE architecture seems to be highly unoptimized. A lot of the silicon will be dedicated to slightly closing the hardware gap with the PS4, meaning that developers are gonna have to code out their ass to get the ONE's version on par.

The PS4 not only has superior hardware, it is also optimized for more efficiency. I expect only 50% of the 1.1 TF GPU performance to be useable because of the ONE's complex architecture while 90+% will be useable for the PS4.

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

ShoTTyMcNaDeS

Actually, I think you have it the other way around.

The xbox ONE architecture seems to be highly unoptimized. A lot of the silicon will be dedicated to slightly closing the hardware gap with the PS4, meaning that developers are gonna have to code out their ass to get the ONE's version on par.

The PS4 not only has superior hardware, it is also optimized for more efficiency. I expect only 50% of the 1.1 TF GPU performance to be useable because of the ONE's complex architecture while 90+% will be useable for the PS4.

Sonysexual1

derp

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Actually, I think you have it the other way around.

The xbox ONE architecture seems to be highly unoptimized. A lot of the silicon will be dedicated to slightly closing the hardware gap with the PS4, meaning that developers are gonna have to code out their ass to get the ONE's version on par.

The PS4 not only has superior hardware, it is also optimized for more efficiency. I expect only 50% of the 1.1 TF GPU performance to be useable because of the ONE's complex architecture while 90+% will be useable for the PS4.

xboxiphoneps3

It's amazing how so many lems forget this.

The xbox ONE had to make so many concessions with post processing effects to run at 1080p. Those that had some post processing effects were running at sub-1080p (No PS4 game was running at sub-1080p). Even their linear games looked worse than open-world games on the PS4.

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Actually, I think you have it the other way around.

The xbox ONE architecture seems to be highly unoptimized. A lot of the silicon will be dedicated to slightly closing the hardware gap with the PS4, meaning that developers are gonna have to code out their ass to get the ONE's version on par.

The PS4 not only has superior hardware, it is also optimized for more efficiency. I expect only 50% of the 1.1 TF GPU performance to be useable because of the ONE's complex architecture while 90+% will be useable for the PS4.

Sonysexual1

It's amazing how so many lems forget this.

The xbox ONE had to make so many concessions with post processing effects to run at 1080p. Those that had some post processing effects were running at sub-1080p (No PS4 game was running at sub-1080p). Even their linear games looked worse than open-world games on the PS4.

Devs are not used to developing for DME's and eSRAM while theyre already used to the pc like traditional archtecturr in the ps4 besides a few things. 

Obvious is obvious... Xb1 multiplats are underperforming and look worse right now and so theyre trying to figure out the hardware and that is why they havent shown any multi plats running on xb1 hardware that will be on ps4 and xb1

devs have already said they can get more out of ps4 stereointegrity

But can the xbox one run the awesome new fish A.I of call of duty?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4OFv9eWIKY

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]devs have already said they can get more out of ps4 xboxiphoneps3

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] This... Xb1 games having worse performamce issues then ps4 games and some of xb1 games arent even running at 1080p and still struggling with performance. Also blatantly obvious why developers havent shown multi plats on xb1 while they have done so already on ps4 xboxiphoneps3

It's amazing how so many lems forget this.

The xbox ONE had to make so many concessions with post processing effects to run at 1080p. Those that had some post processing effects were running at sub-1080p (No PS4 game was running at sub-1080p). Even their linear games looked worse than open-world games on the PS4.

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

It's amazing how so many lems forget this.

The xbox ONE had to make so many concessions with post processing effects to run at 1080p. Those that had some post processing effects were running at sub-1080p (No PS4 game was running at sub-1080p). Even their linear games looked worse than open-world games on the PS4.

jsmoke03

The reason why ps4 is easier to develop for and is more like a PC then xb1 is because the ps4 gpu uses gddr5 ram, which developers have been accosotumed to for a long time,  

In xb1 case, it has eSRAM, data move engines, and other stuff that really complicate the developing process and its not similar to what devs have been working on for pc for a long time

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

It's amazing how so many lems forget this.

The xbox ONE had to make so many concessions with post processing effects to run at 1080p. Those that had some post processing effects were running at sub-1080p (No PS4 game was running at sub-1080p). Even their linear games looked worse than open-world games on the PS4.

jsmoke03

Nope.heeweesRus

Actually, I think you have it the other way around.

The xbox ONE architecture seems to be highly unoptimized. A lot of the silicon will be dedicated to slightly closing the hardware gap with the PS4, meaning that developers are gonna have to code out their ass to get the ONE's version on par.

The PS4 not only has superior hardware, it is also optimized for more efficiency. I expect only 50% of the 1.1 TF GPU performance to be useable because of the ONE's complex architecture while 90+% will be useable for the PS4.

Sonysexual1

[QUOTE="jsmoke03"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] OP is obviouly trolling too. A ps4 is more similiar to a pc and what devs have been developimg on for a while with the new GCN cards while the xb1 is a cluster under performing **** with all its extra nonsense to try and close the gap between xb1 and ps4.Jakandsigz

also ps4's development environment is much more mature then the XB'1s development environment, if the xb1 silicon was easier to develop for and ps4 was harder to develop for, itd be the other way... its easier to program for GDDR5 then eSRAM/Data move engines, etc.

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/05/ps4s_development_environment_is_much_more_mature_than_xbox_one

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Nope.Douevenlift_bro

Similar architecture, ith a wearker gpu and slower ram.  So im gonna say no it wont.

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Nope.AM-Gamer

Similar architecture, ith a wearker gpu and slower ram.  So im gonna say no it wont.

Nope.heeweesRus

Yup

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Your first paragraph is mitigated by Sony's exact same steps, Sony has a cutom prepared chip from AMD for.. something and is very well thought out, they were in talks with developers for about 2 years on how to make a very good console, asking them what they want, what they need and what they don't want. You make it sound like Sony just opened a large box of assorted parts and started screwing parts together and said "Look it's finished!".Jakandsigz

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="JohnF111"]Your first paragraph is mitigated by Sony's exact same steps, Sony has a cutom prepared chip from AMD for.. something and is very well thought out, they were in talks with developers for about 2 years on how to make a very good console, asking them what they want, what they need and what they don't want. You make it sound like Sony just opened a large box of assorted parts and started screwing parts together and said "Look it's finished!".MBirdy88

This would had been true if the PS4 had a different architecture, but since it's the same as the PC and X1...

Haha you make worse thread than callofdutyrulez guy. Maybe you are same person, seem equally clueless.Mr-Kutaragi

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.madsnakehhh

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Haha you make worse thread than callofdutyrulez guy. Maybe you are same person, seem equally clueless.mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Haha you make worse thread than callofdutyrulez guy. Maybe you are same person, seem equally clueless.Mr-Kutaragi

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

KillzoneSnake

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

blackace

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

blackace

nope, Titanfall isnt running at 1080p, said by Digital Foundry

The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state. 

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Haha you make worse thread than callofdutyrulez guy. Maybe you are same person, seem equally clueless.Mr-Kutaragi

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

blackace

Serious question? The PS4 is more powerful. Why can't KZSF run at 60FPS? Last generation Halo 4 ran 30fps and COD ran at 60fps. What factors determine which is used? Maybe that will help understand why KZSF runs at 30fps.

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

blackace

KZ SF uses a massive 3 gb of VRAm on the ps4, xb1 cant even come close to that 

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

GravityX

Serious question? The PS4 is more powerful. Why can't KZSF run at 60FPS? Last generation Halo 4 ran 30fps and COD ran at 60fps. What factors determine which is used? Maybe that will help understand why KZSF runs at 30fps.

think of it like your PC, you want to play a game, but you cant max it out or play on certain settings because either it makes your PC too laggy and the FPS is really low and you cant play like that, so you have to lower graphics settings/ screen resolution to get playable FPS and smoother frames

[QUOTE="GravityX"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] No it wouldn't, especially since it was running Titanfall just under 60fps. The PS4 was having problems running KZ:SF at 30fps. Both games are 1080p. Of course, neither of these games are done yet, so we'll have to wait for the finished product. The X1 definitely have enough power to run anything that's running on the PS4. xboxiphoneps3

Serious question? The PS4 is more powerful. Why can't KZSF run at 60FPS? Last generation Halo 4 ran 30fps and COD ran at 60fps. What factors determine which is used? Maybe that will help understand why KZSF runs at 30fps.