The Xbox One most likely will run games better than PS4.

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

blackace

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

legalize82

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="legalize82"] titanfall hahahahahah omfg never compare current gen gfx with next gen instant faillegalize82

ok Blackace ill let you live in your own delusional world and you can think this looks better, hell this doesnt even look better then TLOU on PS3, this doesnt even look good for a Source Engine game....

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

X1 would run Shadow Fall at 10fps.

xboxiphoneps3

nope, Titanfall isnt running at 1080p, said by Digital Foundry

The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state. 

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="blackace"] Are you stupid. Titanfall is NEXT-GEN graphics. KZ:SF can't even run at the same fps as Titanfall. lol!! KZ:SF didn't win any awards. LMAO!! http://www.joystiq.com/2013/07/02/titanfall-cleans-up-in-e3-2013-game-critics-awards/ Even IGN agreed. lol!! http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/igns-best-of-e3-2013-awards KZ:SF didn't even win in it's own category. KZ:SF is suppose to be the best graphical game on the PS4 and it won nothing. It didn't even win the People's Choice awards on Gamespot. Now please do us a favor and get lost. xboxiphoneps3

ok Blackace ill let you live in your own delusional world and you can think this looks better, hell this doesnt even look better then TLOU on PS3, this doesnt even look good for a Source Engine game....

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="mitu123"]:lol:Your sig is awesome.blackace

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] No it wouldn't, especially since it was running Titanfall just under 60fps. The PS4 was having problems running KZ:SF at 30fps. Both games are 1080p. Of course, neither of these games are done yet, so we'll have to wait for the finished product. The X1 definitely have enough power to run anything that's running on the PS4. blackace

nope, Titanfall isnt running at 1080p, said by Digital Foundry

The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state. 

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

nope, Titanfall isnt running at 1080p, said by Digital Foundry

 

The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state. 

hoosier7

[QUOTE="GravityX"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] No it wouldn't, especially since it was running Titanfall just under 60fps. The PS4 was having problems running KZ:SF at 30fps. Both games are 1080p. Of course, neither of these games are done yet, so we'll have to wait for the finished product. The X1 definitely have enough power to run anything that's running on the PS4. xboxiphoneps3

Serious question? The PS4 is more powerful. Why can't KZSF run at 60FPS? Last generation Halo 4 ran 30fps and COD ran at 60fps. What factors determine which is used? Maybe that will help understand why KZSF runs at 30fps.

think of it like your PC, you want to play a game, but you cant max it out or play on certain settings because either it makes your PC too laggy and the FPS is really low and you cant play like that, so you have to lower graphics settings/ screen resolution to get playable FPS and smoother frames

I know its just the begining of the next generation. But if the PS4 is 30-50% more powerful. Why can't it do both? Do we have to wait a couple of years before we get both? Will we get both?

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="blackace"] Are you stupid. Titanfall is NEXT-GEN graphics. KZ:SF can't even run at the same fps as Titanfall. lol!! KZ:SF didn't win any awards. LMAO!! http://www.joystiq.com/2013/07/02/titanfall-cleans-up-in-e3-2013-game-critics-awards/ Even IGN agreed. lol!! http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/igns-best-of-e3-2013-awards KZ:SF didn't even win in it's own category. KZ:SF is suppose to be the best graphical game on the PS4 and it won nothing. It didn't even win the People's Choice awards on Gamespot. Now please do us a favor and get lost. xboxiphoneps3

ok Blackace ill let you live in your own delusional world and you can think this looks better, hell this doesnt even look better then TLOU on PS3, this doesnt even look good for a Source Engine game....

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="blackace"]

Serious question? The PS4 is more powerful. Why can't KZSF run at 60FPS? Last generation Halo 4 ran 30fps and COD ran at 60fps. What factors determine which is used? Maybe that will help understand why KZSF runs at 30fps.

blackace

think of it like your PC, you want to play a game, but you cant max it out or play on certain settings because either it makes your PC too laggy and the FPS is really low and you cant play like that, so you have to lower graphics settings/ screen resolution to get playable FPS and smoother frames

I know its just the begining of the next generation. But if the PS4 is 30-50% more powerful. Why can't it do both? Do we have to wait a couple of years before we get both? Will we get both?

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

[QUOTE="GravityX"]

Serious question? The PS4 is more powerful. Why can't KZSF run at 60FPS? Last generation Halo 4 ran 30fps and COD ran at 60fps. What factors determine which is used? Maybe that will help understand why KZSF runs at 30fps.

GravityX

think of it like your PC, you want to play a game, but you cant max it out or play on certain settings because either it makes your PC too laggy and the FPS is really low and you cant play like that, so you have to lower graphics settings/ screen resolution to get playable FPS and smoother frames

I know its just the begining of the next generation. But if the PS4 is 30-50% more powerful. Why can't it do both? Do we have to wait a couple of years before we get both? Will we get both?

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

[QUOTE="legalize82"] we are talking graphics here kzsf>>>>>>>> titanfall obviously you are not scared to compare titanfall with kz sf i'll give you thatblackace

ok Blackace ill let you live in your own delusional world and you can think this looks better, hell this doesnt even look better then TLOU on PS3, this doesnt even look good for a Source Engine game....

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

[QUOTE="legalize82"] we are talking graphics here kzsf>>>>>>>> titanfall obviously you are not scared to compare titanfall with kz sf i'll give you thatblackace

ok Blackace ill let you live in your own delusional world and you can think this looks better, hell this doesnt even look better then TLOU on PS3, this doesnt even look good for a Source Engine game....

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

 

 

ok Blackace ill let you live in your own delusional world and you can think this looks better, hell this doesnt even look better then TLOU on PS3, this doesnt even look good for a Source Engine game....

xboxiphoneps3

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] No it wouldn't, especially since it was running Titanfall just under 60fps. The PS4 was having problems running KZ:SF at 30fps. Both games are 1080p. Of course, neither of these games are done yet, so we'll have to wait for the finished product. The X1 definitely have enough power to run anything that's running on the PS4. blackace

nope, Titanfall isnt running at 1080p, said by Digital Foundry

The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state. 

stay butthurt you have to deal with Counter strike source textures :lol::lol::lol:

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

nope, Titanfall isnt running at 1080p, said by Digital Foundry

 

The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state. 

hoosier7

Unoptimized tech and devtools? TC, I think you got the PS4 and XB1 confused, cause I know that (outside of my own personal experience) all of my colleagues have stated how PS4 development has been leagues and bounds far easier than XB1 development. All I can say on the matter.

without a doubt. ubisoft said watchdogs will be better on the Microsoft Xbox One. 

Unoptimized tech and devtools? TC, I think you got the PS4 and XB1 confused, cause I know that (outside of my own personal experience) all of my colleagues have stated how PS4 development has been leagues and bounds far easier than XB1 development. All I can say on the matter.

Shensolidus

without a doubt. ubisoft said watchdogs will be better on the Microsoft Xbox One. 

KarateeeChop

without a doubt. ubisoft said watchdogs will be better on the Microsoft Xbox One. 

KarateeeChop

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="hoosier7"] Can't you see the difference between reporting on a rumour and graphical analysis? Hint, DF are actually quite good and well known at one of them. The other well...xboxiphoneps3

LOL!! You're hilarious. I can't stop laughing at your stupid comments. XBox One games run at 1080p & @60fps. None of the PS4 games are running at 60fps. Some of them can barely run at 30FPS, which is ridiculous since the PS4 is so powerful and has the GDDR5 in it. Developers shouldn't be having these issues with this system since Cerny made it to their specifications.

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="blackace"] LOL!! You're hilarious. I can't stop laughing at your stupid comments. XBox One games run at 1080p & @60fps. None of the PS4 games are running at 60fps. Some of them can barely run at 30FPS, which is ridiculous since the PS4 is so powerful and has the GDDR5 in it. Developers shouldn't be having these issues with this system since Cerny made it to their specifications. Yeah right, only when it favors YOUR favorite system. lol!! What joke you cows are. DF destroyed most of the PS4 games. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4 None of the PS4 games are running at 60fps. lol!!blackace

i applaud you for agreeing with me, thank you very much.. admitting is the first step in getting over your butthurt :lol:

Titanfall looks like another 360 exclusive: childish game with writing that looks like it was written by a 5-year-old.

Can titanfall claim Gears of War's Worst Writing Ever medal?

Titanfall looks like another 360 exclusive: childish game with writing that looks like it was written by a 5-year-old.

Can titanfall claim Gears of War's Worst Writing Ever medal?

Sonysexual1

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] ps4 games also have 2x more graphical assets then any xb1 game and they actually all run at actual 1080p unlike xb1 games xboxiphoneps3

i applaud you for agreeing with me, thank you very much.. admitting is the first step in getting over your butthurt :lol:

My PC will run games better than both.

pelvist

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Titanfall looks like another 360 exclusive: childish game with writing that looks like it was written by a 5-year-old.

Can titanfall claim Gears of War's Worst Writing Ever medal?

xboxiphoneps3

[QUOTE="pelvist"]

My PC will run games better than both.

Cyberdot

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="legalize82"] http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29418023/hyping-awards-not-a-good-idea..?page=0 ownedlegalize82

The PS4 games didn't get any awards.

You mad? You butthurt? Here I can help.

Dry your tears.

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="blackace"] Owned by a forum post? LMAO!!! I don't think so. LOL @ legalize82 stupid thread. blackace

The PS4 games didn't get any awards.

You mad? You butthurt? Here I can help.

Dry your tears.

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="legalize82"] bbbbut the awardslegalize82

The PS4 games didn't get any awards.

You mad? You butthurt? Here I can help.

Dry your tears.

PS4 GPU has 50% more shader performance with volitalie bit cacher to improve simulatenious shader and compute performance

has 6 more CU's and 16 more ROPS

xboxiphoneps3

7870's 32 ROPs wouldn't be fully utilized i.e. my 7970's 32 ROPS says hi and it can run games at higher resolution/higher details than 7870.

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"Volitalie bit" is for L2 cache i.e. it makes better use of the existing L2 cache (SRAM type) for compute instead of textures i.e. recycling L2 cache for compute would reduce the L2 cache for textures.

X1 could have 32 MB ESRAM for compute i.e. it's like gluing massive L3 SRAM cache on server CPUs. Recycling ESRAM for compute would reduce the amount for textures.

PS4's GCN has compute SRAM space that covers L1 + LDS + L2 cache.

PS4's 18 CU's SRAM pool = 4608 KB register file, 288 KB L1 cache, 1152 KB LDS, 512 KB L2 cache (128KB x four memory channels). PS4 has 176 GB/s GDDR5 memory.

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X1's 12 CU's SRAM pool = 3072 KB register file, 192 KB L1 cache, 768 KB LDS and 32 MB ESRAM. X1 has 68 GB/s DDR3 memory (LZ compression not factored in).

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7970's 32 CU's SRAM pool = 8192 KB register file, 512 KB L1 cache, 2048 KB LDS. For additonal overspill, 7970 has 264 GB/s to 288 GB/s (for 7970 GE) memory bandwidth from 384bit GDDR5 i.e. this brute force memory would be faster than X1's 32 MB ESRAM.

The approach is similar to Intel Xeon Phi's 512 bit GDDR5 (352 GB/s) i.e. instead of gluing large L3 caches; Intel equiped Xeon Phi with 512 bit GDDR5 memory.

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Memory speed ranking

1. Register file

2. L1 cache

3. Local Data Store

4. L2 cache

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5. 7970's 384 bit GDDR5

6. X1's ESRAM

7. PS4's 256 bit GDDR5

8. X1's 256bit DDR3

Not including 7990, 7970 Ghz Edition is still the fastest in the GCN in the family.

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="legalize82"] bbbbut the awardslegalize82

The PS4 games didn't get any awards.

You mad? You butthurt? Here I can help.

Dry your tears.

That's actually kinda funny considering that while 360 didn't have as many exclusives as PS3 it tended to get the ones that were huge blockbusters. Games like Gears and Halo, though few and far between, sold much better than most PS3 exclusives.

People forget that even Sony admitted that they focused on most of their tech and architecture on easy to make dev kits. While the Xbox One has all its inside optimized to do each tax to bring out the most of whats there. Especially for actually running games. A lot of PS4 games are having trouble running at certain FPS even now. While a lot of shown Xbox one games with a few exceptions (< people will ignore this) are usually running at higher frames while also keeping graphics stable. This is similar to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS4 on paper seems more powerful this time around by a noticeable amount,. but if the PS4 like the PS3, is full of unoptimized tech that was not implemented correctly despite some of the parts being more powerful, the Ps4 could have similar issues like the PS3, where only certain games when stripped down and linear could show of a piece of its full potential. People say that the PS4 and XBOX ONE are similar tech, and that's all that matters. But how do you know that Sony did not throw some of those chips and such on without knowing how to fully use them? So far there clearly is not one game on the PS4 that shows that the PS4 is much more powerful. How will games use the PS4? no one knows. From the looks of things right now, it seems that the Xbox One will have an easier time with running games.Jakandsigz

You think too much and it's all useless thoughts!