The Xbox One Problem

Looking at this gen, and looking what is available in comparable genre's and new IP's that are not remasters and only available on one or the other console. AAA retail only, no indies:

Arcade Racer

86: Xbox One: Forza Horizon 2

71: PS4: DriveClub

Open World Action

81: Xbox One: Sunset Overdrive

80: PS4: Infamous Second Son

Linear World, New IP, Shooter

79: PS4: Until Dawn

78: Xbox One: Quantum Break

63: PS4: The Order

Action Adventure

86: Xbox One: Rise of the Tomb Raider

0: PS4: Uncharted 4 (still don't have it yet)

Simcade

87: Xbox One: Forza Motorsport 6

0: PS4: Gran Turismo Sport (still don't have it yet, and already had 2 on Xbox)

Hack and Slash

92: PS4: Bloodborne

78: Xbox One: Dead Rising 3

60: Xbox One: Ryse

0: Scalebound (still don't have it yet)

Fighting

85: Xbox One: Killer Instinct Season 2 (no score for 3 yet)

77: PS4: Street Fighter V

Shooter:

84: Xbox One: Halo 5

86: Xbox One: Titanfall

73: Killzone 4

Sports

85: PS4: MLB The Show 16

0: Xbox One: No sports game in sight.

Based on that list, it sure seems like the Xbox One is indeed holding it's own. We are still waiting for some games to come out in certain genres on the PS4. We are waiting 3 years for a Gran Turismo game (and it's not even the full fledged game). We still don't have our action adventure game, Uncharted. But the Xbox has covered all the bases, with scores better than, as good as, and at some points, not as good as.

@Heil68: I never played freelancer.

But here's a HELL YEAH anyway.

Damn right ... once again NyaDc can spot anti-Xbox bias like no-one else, and he calls it like he sees it.

This thread should be locked, if people want to read this sort of nonsense they can shuffle on over to SonyGAF and have a milk-jerk with all the other cows.

Lol.

Probably another NyaDC account a incredibly dusty one judging for that incredibly low spots count..lol

If you were only here last gen when lemmings were throwing around Halo,Gears,Forza,Bioshock,Mass effects,Ghost Recon,Oblivion and several more the xbox 360 had which were scored 9 or better and the PS3 didn't have back when it was 2 years old.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/xbox-360-vs-ps3-exclusives-list-with-metacritic-sc-27143493/

6 years ago i dare you to go in,you will not find people complaining about scores but rather debating which is better,because back then the xbox 360 had a great line up and many games so using metacritic was PERFECTLY OK,now scores are not valid any more and is lemmings which do this which is pathetic.

Kingtito,stormyjoe,cainetao,sts106mats,bigshotsmove007,blackace and hes alters all lemmings all don't care about scores this gen,last gen they weren't bother but last gen the xbox 360 had tons of games this gen the xbox one has crap.

@kvally: sucks that half of the X1 games you're comparing with aren't even exclusive.

Also:

Action Platformer

PS4: Ratchet and Clank (Score TBA)

X1: None that I can think of

I'm sorry, but what does the PS4 have beyond just Bloodborne?

Fact of the matter is that both systems are severely underperforming when it comes to their exclusive libraries. Please don't act like this is a heavily lopsided situation here.

@tormentos said:

@cainetao11 said:

@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@cainetao11:

LOL he loves to tell people what they like is irrelevant. If you like the X1 then you don't represent 99% of the consumers or gamers out there like Playstation fans do represent 99% of gamers and fans LOL. Dude has no concept about people's likes and taste and with there preference being completely relevant to them.

The guy believes Metacritic scores are factual or that they represent 99% of gamers out there when all they represent is a weighted avg of some reviewers out there. That reality must go by that and should you like a game, say like Knack or Ryse which didn't score above 60 on Meta, than you just like bad games. He doesn't understand the real fact is all entertainment is subjective. He probably thinks Whatever wins Album or Best Picture of the year is the best that year.

No i believe people like you and him are hypocrites who for generations liked scores and now they don't like them.

Now because the shitty xbox one is getting short end of the stick score are not valid.

Let me ask you this what can you use to determine the xbox one has better games than the PS4 FACTUALLY if it isn't score.

Don't freaking tell me you biased ass opinion because that one is not better than mine or any cow,but but but i have both platforms and i play all and i can say the xbox one is better,again bullshit i did own a PS3 and a 360 since day 1 and that wasn't how it worked,the 360 got a high score game vs a PS3 one and that score would be use as sword and shield.

GT vs Forza.

Uncharted 1 vs Gears

Resistance vs Gears.

Halo vs Resistance.

You name it that is how it worked until the xbox one failed to deliver this gen,i remember how on launch fanboys here were holding tied to gamespot Forza 5 score because it was 9 here but in meta it was below 80.

Let me give you an example of why you people are a joke and how the goal post is moved.

mems_1224

well, resistance is garbage.

When 86 is on a PS game.

@mems_1224 said:

86 is a great score. how is it not looking good?

When 86 is on a xbox game...lol

@mems_1224 said:

@StormyJoe said:

No it's not. But, there's always one a-hole site that gives Halo games 4/10, 6/10, etc.

Haters going to hate, I guess.

yea, halo games seems to get lots of weird hate from no name sites

If the PS game get a lower than expected score is because it is bad,if an xbox game get a lower than expected score is because no name sites score it low...

This is why i consider you lemmings a joke @cainetao11 and that dude you quoted is even a bigger hypocrite,when a game is on PS4 and PC is not exclusive as you can get it on PC and PC is another console,when the game is on xbox one and PC is exclusive because he can only get it on 1 console the xbox one since the game is not on PS4 and PC is not a console vs the xbox one..hahahaa

Or worse like yesterday were he called me retarded but got offended when i called him chump..lol

LOL what you upset about LOL. You don't know what hypocrite means if you think you've ever caught me being one dude LOL. When did I say the X1 has a better lineup than the PS4 this year, please point that out to me I've said the PC to me has the best lineup of games this year, I said the X1 had the better lineup last year, I stand by everything I've said on here so you can never call me out for being anything.

For you to tell anyone their preference is irrelevant is asinine period. You can't dictate what someone like, that's not for you to decide. If someone thinks any Xbox game is better than any Playstation game then that's their opinion, have you heard of that word before? Most people in here think your irrelevant really cause of these clown post you put up all the time dude. You can't wrap your head around anyone liking anything other the Playstation like you made the console LOL. You take this way too seriously to a put where you sound retarded, especially when you start telling people their opinion is irrelevant LOL. Get a grip dude for real. Do you even play any games or do you be on here just monitoring peoples post all day LOL.

@mems_1224 said:

@tormentos said:

@cainetao11 said:

@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@cainetao11:

LOL he loves to tell people what they like is irrelevant. If you like the X1 then you don't represent 99% of the consumers or gamers out there like Playstation fans do represent 99% of gamers and fans LOL. Dude has no concept about people's likes and taste and with there preference being completely relevant to them.

The guy believes Metacritic scores are factual or that they represent 99% of gamers out there when all they represent is a weighted avg of some reviewers out there. That reality must go by that and should you like a game, say like Knack or Ryse which didn't score above 60 on Meta, than you just like bad games. He doesn't understand the real fact is all entertainment is subjective. He probably thinks Whatever wins Album or Best Picture of the year is the best that year.

No i believe people like you and him are hypocrites who for generations liked scores and now they don't like them.

Now because the shitty xbox one is getting short end of the stick score are not valid.

Let me ask you this what can you use to determine the xbox one has better games than the PS4 FACTUALLY if it isn't score.

Don't freaking tell me you biased ass opinion because that one is not better than mine or any cow,but but but i have both platforms and i play all and i can say the xbox one is better,again bullshit i did own a PS3 and a 360 since day 1 and that wasn't how it worked,the 360 got a high score game vs a PS3 one and that score would be use as sword and shield.

GT vs Forza.

Uncharted 1 vs Gears

Resistance vs Gears.

Halo vs Resistance.

You name it that is how it worked until the xbox one failed to deliver this gen,i remember how on launch fanboys here were holding tied to gamespot Forza 5 score because it was 9 here but in meta it was below 80.

Let me give you an example of why you people are a joke and how the goal post is moved.

mems_1224

well, resistance is garbage.

When 86 is on a PS game.

@mems_1224 said:

86 is a great score. how is it not looking good?

When 86 is on a xbox game...lol

@mems_1224 said:

@StormyJoe said:

No it's not. But, there's always one a-hole site that gives Halo games 4/10, 6/10, etc.

Haters going to hate, I guess.

yea, halo games seems to get lots of weird hate from no name sites

If the PS game get a lower than expected score is because it is bad,if an xbox game get a lower than expected score is because no name sites score it low...

This is why i consider you lemmings a joke @cainetao11 and that dude you quoted is even a bigger hypocrite,when a game is on PS4 and PC is not exclusive as you can get it on PC and PC is another console,when the game is on xbox one and PC is exclusive because he can only get it on 1 console the xbox one since the game is not on PS4 and PC is not a console vs the xbox one..hahahaa

Or worse like yesterday were he called me retarded but got offended when i called him chump..lol

I never said Resistance was bad because it got an 86.

This dude just makes up garbage as he goes along LOL.

I'd say that it was Splatoon in the case of Wii U since that actually, you know, was a system seller (at least in Japan).

@SecretPolice: Why is Xbox One getting trounced in sales if this true? Your circle is the minority.

This thread pretends to be valid and original as the rehashes we have been blessed with in gaming.

Oh i forgot that racing and shooters are the only genres that matter..lol

Hahahaa one of the most pathetic and blind post ever,this post is so out of touch with reality is not even funny,you are medicated or down right drunk to say such pathetic arguments..

Is like The last of Us didn't even happen just 2 damn years ago more awarded than any fu**ing Halo,Gear or Forza game ever done on any xbox console,TLOU was born on PS by a sony studio,not even halo came to life that way MS simple bough bungie while Halo was a work in progress and it was even slated to appear on PS2..hahahaaa

Your biggest franchise was on route to PS2 before the xbox even existed,most of sony games have being created under sony good or bad.

Uncharted one of best highest rated exclusives last gen born on PS3,TLOU from the same developer again one of the highest rated as well,when was the last time a MS studio pulled 2 different franchises and both score 95 or better.?

The PS4 doesn't have a 2TB maximum dude stop pulling crap out of your buns,you can get an adapter and even use a 4 GB one.

Camera is a gimmick which is dead on xbox one any way,and backward compatibility is broken as shit on xbox one.

yes and from what is being say it would own even more the xbox one graphically..lol

You say it was garbage if an 86 game is garbage on PS3 for what ever reason you ell like (we know is blind fanboysm) then 86 on another platform is also garbage especially when that game was Halo 5 which is also a FPS..lol

because of the mandatory kinect at launch, the lack of proper dev tools at launch (esram tools) and weaker gpu.

I was talking games on console. I am not talking about Microsoft Windows. Just console to console wars. I don't care if a game is Xbox exclusive or Microsoft exclusive or Sony exclusive or PS4 exclusive. Most of us are playing these consoles

Rachet isn't out yet either. MLB is out though, and I forgot about that one. I am adding that one.

You spend an unhealthy amount of time on this site. I hope you are paid.

PS4 is selling better because the PS always sells better. PS has been brand name recognition, has been on the market longer, the PS4 was released cheaper and didn't force an accessory on to the consumer. The PS2 outsold the original Xbox. The PS3 sold at a faster rate than the Xbox 360, even though it came out a year later and more expensive. The PS4 has higher performance. So when you add all those things, combined with multiplat games and exclusives, it is bound to sell better.

With the Xbox, it is selling faster than previous Xboxes, it has a growing online community, has a huge software attach rate. The problem with Xbox is the screwed up at the release of this gen with the hardware pricing and accessory.

Luckily Phil has seen this error that MS made and has turned this into GAMES GAMES GAMES. Late? Yes. A problem? No. We are getting great games, and there is endless support from developers. It's all about gaming anyway, not sales.

Xbox is a business. It's not about the feelz. It has to have a system defining game to continue to exist. Microsoft won't' support this charity forever.

MS lost to Sony in every way imaginable. Games, sales, hardware.

This ^^^^ man knows what he's talking about.

The Xbox One might not have that 1 great game that makes you run out and buy a system but what it does have is an amalgamation of Great, Gold standard titles in important genres and the best online service.

You might not agree but imo, the Xbox One has a better overall library of quality games than the PS4.

except, i dont base my opinions of games on review scores so your argument is fucking stupid. try again

I feel you and your opinion. Although I may not agree that it has an overall better lineup than the PS4 but this dumb logic that it has no games, it's in trouble blah blah blah fanboy garbage you see in here all the time is nonsense. The X1 has a great library of games and only fanboys that don't have one would argue with that.

Proven SONY titles get the hate with better scores. Now that's something else.

@kvally: you included games that haven't been released yet.

What's wrong with including R&C?

Bullshit, fore its time is a lazy defense for people who don't want to accept they were blinded by pretty visuals and overrated a poorly playing shallow video game. Which is what Uncharted 1 was day fucking 1.

Now Uncharted is overrated and a shallow game. Geesh talk about stretching reality.

check your list again...lol

If you count Tomb Raider the last of us is valid.

Sport..

MLB 2014 - 83%

MLB 2015 80%

MLB 2016 85%

RPG.

86: PS4 FF XlV

80: PS4: Disgaea

77: PS4: DQ Heroes

72: PS4: Tales of Zestiria

You just waited 3 freaking years for Quantum Break and didn't die oh and it flopped hard.

Check your action adventure genre list again dude,

So were are the xbox one RPG.? Were are its sport games.? Did you know MLB charted last year on March,april and may the 3 months on NPD.? Forza 6 and Forza horizon 2 could not even chart 1 month,neither did Sunset Over drive.

And that is ignoring that you on purpose omitted indies because it doesn't go your freaking way,which is a joke by the way considering the best score game on xbox one last year that wasn't on PS4 was Ori and the blind Forest,a damn indie game if it wasn't for that game the xbox one would have go gameless for 7 months or until rare collection hit.

That is why your argument is a made to order one and pathetic by the way,play fair or don't play at all as simple as that,putting Tomb Raider there and dead rising but not putting games on PS4 and also on PC is a joke.

Uncharted in 1 month,Ratchet in 5 days,already got MLB a few days ago and Salt and Sanctuary,the last 2 have 85% on meta.

Now what does the xbox one at all,considering QB basically flopped and Gears is not do for several months.

The PS4 has some 200 games more if you don't think that gap is big enough what is.

Oh i think is you who doesn't know what that word means.

No is not your preference is IRRELEVANT,did i call in mine.? Yeah is because what you like is not what other like so you don't represent the market which is why the PS4 is selling great and the xbox one isn't because a few lemmings here don't represent the mass market.

No what i can't wrap my head around is hypocrisy,like yours like the dude i just quote now on this post as well,setting parameters to what is valid and whats is not,letting games like The last of Us out but using freaking tomb Raider,this are all sad arguments artificially created to make the xbox one look better,there are some 200 games more on PS than on xbox one no amount of damage controls will change that or will change the perception of people no matter how much he try to pretend indies don't count or that multiplatforms games only count when they are on PC and xbox one.

Just like you did as well.

That is funny i just quote him saying a game is garbage that game has 86% how can it be garbage explain please maybe you find a way to explain it,worse i quote him defending Halo 5 86 score.. hahahaa

@mems_1224 said:

86 is a great score. how is it not looking good?

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... So Resistance has a great score how can it be garbage contradiction.?

Drake's pants got wet. That was the only fairly good thing about that game

None of this is remotely new. Times evolve, but with new generations come new generation of fanboys with the same train of thought. Fanboys do not understand that competition brings better options for consumers, because their infatuation with pieces of plastic/inanimate objects typically override any train of coherent thought in the back of their minds.

It has a good metacritic score. so what? i never said it had a bad one. are you going to actually make a point or ramble on like some crazy stalker?

Mems is full of shit. He bragged about how Remedy gunplay was so much better than Naughty Dog, then said he would play Quantum Flop for the story/visuals after the gameplay was revealed to be mediocre.

Uncharted 1? Absolutely. Game is quite poor.

Uncharted 2? damn good game, but shallow wouldn't be a stretch there sunshine. It's a third person shooter with some meh mechanics, and narrative wise it's a poor man's Indian Jones. It gets by on raw execution and great pacing.

Max Payne 1 and 2 have far superior gunplay to anything ND has ever done. I've never claimed that the gameplay in QB looked amazing, in fact, i felt the opposite since they've been showing it. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean you have to lie all the time.

@tormentos:

LOL I would respond to you but I don't even know what the hell you are talking about LOL. Something about tomb raider and TLOU LOL. To clarify, they are both great games, I've said that before so whatever hypocrisy you are talking about is a fail effect. Like I've stated in the past, you make up nonsense and lack comprehension. If you trying to say I said TLOU is a bad game then your lying cause I've never once said that in here. Your point is irrelevant LOL.

You always bring up having more is better, if you have 5 Buicks and I have 1 Mercedes, who has the better car LOL. If You have 10 roasanne bar looking women and I have 1 Beyonce who has the better girl LOL. More doesn't mean better dude, quality over quanity but I'm sure you don't understand that.

@tormentos: Ok. I believe people like you are mentally challenged and sick because you really take this SW stuff that serious. Thanks for catching up pal.

the only problem xbox one has is sony fanboys that have had nothing else besides bloodborne to talk about since launch. which leaves them way too much time for criticizing everything xbox because it has games/features that they dont like, so its unfathomable that others do actually like them. its the same dumb logic peter brown uses in his video justifying his quantum break score.

funny thing is three years later sony fanboys are *still* saying wait til <fill in the blank upcoming Sony AAAAE title> gets here, and happily cheering about getting milked by sony with ps4.5, psvr, pstv, psnow and more promised games added to a pile of games that still havent come out.

I've enjoyed the games on my xbox one. Titanfall, Ori, Sunset Overdrive, KI, Forza 5 & 6, FH2, MCC, Halo 5, Ark, Elite Dangerous, Smite all have given me a lot of hours of good gaming.

The words you are looking for are "social reject".

It was a bad game when it was released. Sorry.

really is fascinating watching you lems go from desperation to lunacy.

Hahahaahaaa.. Damn Uncharted Drake Fortune still causing butthurt amount lemming almost 10 years latter this is quite Epic..hahaha

But im with you on this i think if a game was rated by its graphics it was gears of war,shallow repetitive,as scripted as uncharted with a totally broken multiplayer mode and still reviewers gave it 10..lol

You can always find reasons not to give a game a review score of 10. Control issues (Gears of War has that). A.I. problems (that, too). Bad dialogue or storytelling (yes on both). Linear levels, online lag, limited modes (yup, yup, and yup). But as I was playing through the game, I found one consistently good feature: It was constantly impressing the hell out of me.

http://www.1up.com/reviews/gears-of-war_2

So by him Gears of war had.

Control issues.

AI problems.

Bad dialogue and story.

Linear levels (lol at those who flame Uncharted)

Online lag

Limited modes.

This is a long list of bad crap to end rating the game A+,no matter how memorable a game is all those problems combined in a single game is to much to even consider a giving it a 9 let alone 10,i have see games get destroy just because it has just bad AI never mind had so many problem.

You call the game garbage how can that be it has a great score....hahahaaaaa

Reading the discussion seems like an overall problem this gen not just xboxone. Indies are killing it though Hyper Light Drifter anyone?

I'm surprised people still sift through el tormo's posts to try to understand what he's saying and respond.

I find it hilarious though when he digs through years of my posting history only to make my point for me.

Yo pramath can I just ship you mine?

@flyincloud1116: "That what they hide behind to cover up for their beloved X1. I like you calling like it is. The PS4 does not suck this generation. The X1 isn't a bad console, it's just a step backwards from the 360, a 10 point step."

So is PS4 a step forward from the PS3? =(

Max Payne 1 & 2 are great....but I don't know about all that.

if anything they're equal.

oh, and youre full of shit and ppl are putting the spotlight on it.

just a daily reminder: you bash UC for being a movie game but you're willing to play QB which you admit has shit combat?

so are you playing it for the movie part of the game?

Uncharted games have never had good shooting. If anything, the shooting in QB feels a lot like Uncharted games

How am I full of shit? Show me one post where I've claimed the gameplay in QB looks great

@mems_1224: like I said....you bash UC for being a movie game...yet you admit QB has shit combat.

so you're playing it for the movie/tv show part of it?