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#51 sdu_1111
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]"going to PC" I don't see any form of exclusivity mentioned in that statementCaseyWegner

what else is it supposed to mean? 360 games going to the pc would mean they were exclusive and then went to the pc.

I guess... Those are still some of 360's best games that would be exclusive, if not for the PC

good thing it has enough actual exclusives to trump the wii and ps3.

huh? oO...

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#52 rocketman001
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Okay

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#53 XEviscerateX
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Thats why i have a PC/wii. I get most of the great games except I have to wait in some circumstances, like waiting for gta 4 and CRAVING resident evil 5 will come to the PC. I'll get over it though because in the end it always pays off!
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#54 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]"going to PC" I don't see any form of exclusivity mentioned in that statementsdu_1111

what else is it supposed to mean? 360 games going to the pc would mean they were exclusive and then went to the pc.

I guess... Those are still some of 360's best games that would be exclusive, if not for the PC

good thing it has enough actual exclusives to trump the wii and ps3.

huh? oO...

the 360 has more AAAEs and AAEs than the wii and ps3 have.

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#55 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it's still wrong.

sparkypants

you have yet laid out proof that says otherwise...

games like, Oblivion, Orange box, Mass Effect,BioShock,Gears of War,Rainbow Six,Viva Pinata,Splinter Cell...and I can keep going...have all shared there existance with the PC,PS3 or Both

um, yes i have. only gears, mass effect, and viva pinata were ever 360 exclusives. you also forgot to mention lost planet.

no...there was the "I can keep going part"... also I never said exclusives, in my post I was implying:Exclusives, console exclusives or just multiplat releases...there arent that many games that are on the 360 that arent on the PS3 and or the PC

from your first post in this thread.

"While this isnt the systems falt but the companies, all exclusive games that debut on the 360 either end up on another system(more so PS3 then Wii) or the PC(typically window based systems...sorry MAC users)"

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#56 Shootingpeanuts
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IMHO, the 360 is there for those of us that don't like the keyboard in gaming. I really don't use the PC unless I'm playing Starcraft (Still one of the best games out there so don't think I hate the PC).

The 360 is there for those of us who love great looking games that are long but we don't want to spend 1000 a year, just to play al the games next year.

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#57 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it's still wrong.

CaseyWegner

you have yet laid out proof that says otherwise...

games like, Oblivion, Orange box, Mass Effect,BioShock,Gears of War,Rainbow Six,Viva Pinata,Splinter Cell...and I can keep going...have all shared there existance with the PC,PS3 or Both

um, yes i have. only gears, mass effect, and viva pinata were ever 360 exclusives. you also forgot to mention lost planet.

no...there was the "I can keep going part"... also I never said exclusives, in my post I was implying:Exclusives, console exclusives or just multiplat releases...there arent that many games that are on the 360 that arent on the PS3 and or the PC

from your first post in this thread.

"While this isnt the systems falt but the companies, all exclusive games that debut on the 360 either end up on another system(more so PS3 then Wii) or the PC(typically window based systems...sorry MAC users)"

ok so I said it...I was implying console exclusives as well, I will take fault in that. but my point still stands...reguardless(and Im making this clear now) of which it is EXCLUSIVE or CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE(in the case of bio shock and orange box...before the delay) the game always ends up on the PC an or the PS3

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#58 CaseyWegner
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ok so I said it...I was implying console exclusives as well, I will take fault in that. but my point still stands...reguardless(and Im making this clear now) of which it is EXCLUSIVE or CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE(in the case of bio shock and orange box...before the delay) the game always ends up on the PC an or the PS3

sparkypants

and why does this matter? the 360 still has more exclusive AAAEs and AAEs than the ps3 or wii.

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#59 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"]

ok so I said it...I was implying console exclusives as well, I will take fault in that. but my point still stands...reguardless(and Im making this clear now) of which it is EXCLUSIVE or CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE(in the case of bio shock and orange box...before the delay) the game always ends up on the PC an or the PS3

CaseyWegner

and why does this matter? the 360 still has more exclusive AAAEs and AAEs than the ps3 or wii.

yeah well there is a handfull of those AAEs I can get for the PC, so why does that matter...

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#60 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

ok so I said it...I was implying console exclusives as well, I will take fault in that. but my point still stands...reguardless(and Im making this clear now) of which it is EXCLUSIVE or CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE(in the case of bio shock and orange box...before the delay) the game always ends up on the PC an or the PS3

sparkypants

and why does this matter? the 360 still has more exclusive AAAEs and AAEs than the ps3 or wii.

yeah well there is a handfull of those AAEs I can get for the PC, so why does that matter...

no you can't. that's why they're called AAE and not AA.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

ok so I said it...I was implying console exclusives as well, I will take fault in that. but my point still stands...reguardless(and Im making this clear now) of which it is EXCLUSIVE or CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE(in the case of bio shock and orange box...before the delay) the game always ends up on the PC an or the PS3

sparkypants

and why does this matter? the 360 still has more exclusive AAAEs and AAEs than the ps3 or wii.

yeah well there is a handfull of those AAEs I can get for the PC, so why does that matter...

You might want to look into what that 'E' stands for.

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#62 decepticondevil
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You can't say "Oh the best 360 games are on the PC so there's no point in even making the 360", because the PC isn't a console. It's an entirely different category.

There's a lot of us that just prefer to play games on consoles. Bottom line. You can sit there all day and say "Yeah but the PC... yeah but you can do this to the PC.... yeah but it's not really that expensive to keep upgrading your PC...." but the simple fact is I prefer to sit on my couch, in my living room, controller in hand, playing games on my TV. It's been that way since I was a kid playing the 2600 and the NES, and it's what I'm comfortable with. There's a hell of a lot of people out there like me too.

Hell, by your reasoning you might as well just say that there's no point for having consoles at all because everything that's done on consoles can be done on the PC. People have even mapped the Wiimote to the PC. So why even make consoles at all?

Why? Because people like gaming on consoles. I can also go into all the crap about software/hardware conflicts and the problems you can run into with PC gaming, but I won't even bother because that's not even the point. The point is, I like gaming on consoles and not a PC.

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#63 CaseyWegner
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You can't say "Oh the best 360 games are on the PC so there's no point in even making the 360", because the PC isn't a console. It's an entirely different category.

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it's the system wars forum...not console wars.

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#64 decepticondevil
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[QUOTE="decepticondevil"]

You can't say "Oh the best 360 games are on the PC so there's no point in even making the 360", because the PC isn't a console. It's an entirely different category.

CaseyWegner

it's the system wars forum...not console wars.

I think you're missing my point.

He's saying that they don't need to make the 360 because you can play the games on the PC. I'm saying that there's a whole lot of people that prefer to play on consoles and THAT is why his argument does not fly.

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#65 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

ok so I said it...I was implying console exclusives as well, I will take fault in that. but my point still stands...reguardless(and Im making this clear now) of which it is EXCLUSIVE or CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE(in the case of bio shock and orange box...before the delay) the game always ends up on the PC an or the PS3

CaseyWegner

and why does this matter? the 360 still has more exclusive AAAEs and AAEs than the ps3 or wii.

yeah well there is a handfull of those AAEs I can get for the PC, so why does that matter...

no you can't. that's why they're called AAE and not AA.

I meant AAAE....but in any case, Im not talking AAAEs, I could care less what this site says about game ratings. Im talking about games, reguardless of weather or not you or this site thinks they are good or bad!

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#66 CaseyWegner
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I meant AAAE....but in any case, Im not talking AAAEs, I could care less what this site says about game ratings. Im talking about games, reguardless of weather or not you or this site thinks they are good or bad!

sparkypants

dude. the "E" stands for exclusive so no you can not play any of the 360's AAAEs on the pc either. if you're not talking about game ratings, what are you talking about? your own personal opinion? :?

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#67 sparkypants
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You might want to look into what that 'E' stands for.

travt-down

exclusives...I know, but some of those exclusives ended up on the PC...

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#68 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="travt-down"]

You might want to look into what that 'E' stands for.

sparkypants

exclusives...I know, but some of those exclusives ended up on the PC...

gears is the only AAA exclusive that the 360 has lost to the pc so how can it be "some" games?

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#69 decepticondevil
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[QUOTE="travt-down"]

You might want to look into what that 'E' stands for.

sparkypants

exclusives...I know, but some of those exclusives ended up on the PC...

Umm I think he said that regardless of the ones that have ended up on the PC it's still got the most AAAE's and AAE's.

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#70 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"]

I meant AAAE....but in any case, Im not talking AAAEs, I could care less what this site says about game ratings. Im talking about games, reguardless of weather or not you or this site thinks they are good or bad!

CaseyWegner

dude. the "E" stands for exclusive so no you can not play any of the 360's AAAEs on the pc either. if you're not talking about game ratings, what are you talking about? your own personal opinion? :?

Your missing the point, most of Microsofts games are on the PC or the PS3, weather they are A,AA,AAA or whatever...there are too many console exclusives that are for PC and there are a handful of exclusives being ported to the PC.(and I can think of a few that are exclusive now but might...do to trends in the past...follow that same rought) Reguardless of what your personal opinion is or what GS' opinion is...there are very little games thats stand out for the 360 that arent out on other systems

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#71 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

I meant AAAE....but in any case, Im not talking AAAEs, I could care less what this site says about game ratings. Im talking about games, reguardless of weather or not you or this site thinks they are good or bad!

sparkypants

dude. the "E" stands for exclusive so no you can not play any of the 360's AAAEs on the pc either. if you're not talking about game ratings, what are you talking about? your own personal opinion? :?

Your missing the point, most of Microsofts games are on the PC or the PS3, weather they are A,AA,AAA or whatever...there are too many console exclusives that are for PC and there are a handful of exclusives being ported to the PC.(and I can think of a few that are exclusive now but might...do to trends in the past...follow that same rought) Reguardless of what your personal opinion is or what GS' opinion is...there are very little games thats stand out for the 360 that arent out on other systems

and yet despite that, the 360 has more than the wii or ps3 does. why do you keep ignoring this?

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#72 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

I meant AAAE....but in any case, Im not talking AAAEs, I could care less what this site says about game ratings. Im talking about games, reguardless of weather or not you or this site thinks they are good or bad!

CaseyWegner

dude. the "E" stands for exclusive so no you can not play any of the 360's AAAEs on the pc either. if you're not talking about game ratings, what are you talking about? your own personal opinion? :?

Your missing the point, most of Microsofts games are on the PC or the PS3, weather they are A,AA,AAA or whatever...there are too many console exclusives that are for PC and there are a handful of exclusives being ported to the PC.(and I can think of a few that are exclusive now but might...do to trends in the past...follow that same rought) Reguardless of what your personal opinion is or what GS' opinion is...there are very little games thats stand out for the 360 that arent out on other systems

and yet despite that, the 360 has more than the wii and ps3 do. why do you keep ignoring this?

your right the 360 has more (for lack of a better word)ports... or games on more then one system then the other systems Im not ignoring this...

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#73 CaseyWegner
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your right the 360 has more (for lack of a better word)ports... or games on more then one system then the other systems Im not ignoring this...

sparkypants

the entire premise of your thread makes no sense. you're saying it's bad that it has more multiplats than the ps3 or wii but you're completely ignoring the more important detail in that it has more exclusives than the ps3 or wii.

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#74 jeffdoomsday
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All you need is a 360 and a quality HD tv.
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#75 jeezers
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We need xbox, without it, games like bioshock,gears,ninja gaiden,halo,condemned, and others wouldnt exist. and ive had so much fun with these titles, not having the xbox, would suck, just like never having the playstation would have sucked.

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#76 CaseyWegner
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We need xbox, without it, games like bioshock,gears,ninja gaiden,halo,condemned, and others wouldnt exist. and ive had so much fun with these titles, not having the xbox, would suck, just like never having the playstation would have sucked.

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why would those not exist?

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#77 Videodogg
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You are right we dont need three systems. You can drop the ps3 because its basically trying to copy the 360, just not as well. And, the Wii is really just a game-cube in disguise, basically. I have all three systems, but if you are forcing me to make a choice....well i will stick with the system that has provided me the most quality gaming and features in the last 2.5 years...the xbox360.
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#78 jeezers
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[QUOTE="jeezers"]

We need xbox, without it, games like bioshock,gears,ninja gaiden,halo,condemned, and others wouldnt exist. and ive had so much fun with these titles, not having the xbox, would suck, just like never having the playstation would have sucked.

CaseyWegner

why would those not exist?

because they were games supported by microsoft to challenge playstation and nitendo. If xbox never existed, less compitition, less games.

a good example is xbox live, without it, psn would never exist, the only reason they made it was to challenge microsofts xbox live.

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#79 sdu_1111
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"]

ok so I said it...I was implying console exclusives as well, I will take fault in that. but my point still stands...reguardless(and Im making this clear now) of which it is EXCLUSIVE or CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE(in the case of bio shock and orange box...before the delay) the game always ends up on the PC an or the PS3

CaseyWegner

and why does this matter? the 360 still has more exclusive AAAEs and AAEs than the ps3 or wii.

uh, ur wrong.

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#80 sdu_1111
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360 only has ... Halo3, PDZ and Forza as AAAE ... only 3...

Wii has more.

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#82 GazzaB
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360 only has ... Halo3, PDZ and Forza as AAAE ... only 3...

Wii has more.

sdu_1111

and GRAW

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#83 Blue_Panda
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lol i totally agree with you. i own all 3 consoles, and a medium-end pc. im selling my 360 soon, i mean, i really dont need it. PS3 is great for its exclusives, and wii isnt even a console to me, its more a "for old times sake" treasure.
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#84 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

ok so I said it...I was implying console exclusives as well, I will take fault in that. but my point still stands...reguardless(and Im making this clear now) of which it is EXCLUSIVE or CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE(in the case of bio shock and orange box...before the delay) the game always ends up on the PC an or the PS3

sdu_1111

and why does this matter? the 360 still has more exclusive AAAEs and AAEs than the ps3 or wii.

uh, ur wrong.

there's a stickied thread here that addresses this very issue. :|

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25781167

the 360 has more.

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#85 jg4xchamp
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The 360 has more AAAs and AAs than the PS3 and Wii

The 360 has more AAA exclusives and AA exclusives than the PS3 and Wii.

How is the 360 the least necessary?
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#86 ImOldGreg
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[QUOTE="sdu_1111"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

ok so I said it...I was implying console exclusives as well, I will take fault in that. but my point still stands...reguardless(and Im making this clear now) of which it is EXCLUSIVE or CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE(in the case of bio shock and orange box...before the delay) the game always ends up on the PC an or the PS3

CaseyWegner

and why does this matter? the 360 still has more exclusive AAAEs and AAEs than the ps3 or wii.

uh, ur wrong.

there's a stickied thread here that addresses this very issue. :|

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25781167

the 360 has more.

ahh Casey, we can always count on you to instill order in the chaos that is S.W

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#87 kyacat
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I say we need three console for people who have different taste in games that come out for each console
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#88 crispytheone88
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So because the 360 is a microsoft product, and they obviously tied the system in with PC gaming, its now a bad thing

the PC does get some of the exclusive titles that come to the 360, but they don't get alot of the multiplats between the 360 and Ps3

so if you want the best, you get the 360, it has halo, gears, ect ect, and all the awesomeness of multiplats like burnout and GTA, ect ect

it is the best console for gaming right now, no question

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#89 -Sphere-
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I guess everyone has the right to their own opinion no matter how terribly wrong it may be.
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#90 dragon_master11
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Are you losing sleep at night because there are 3 systems?

Just buy the console that you like and keep quiet.

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#91 SpinoRaptor
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You say you have a small budget and say there is no need for 360, yet it is cheaper than a PS3 and PC :|

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#92 SpruceCaboose
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There are games on each system that I cannot get on other platforms, and since I don't game on a PC, I find alot of reasons to own all three consoles.
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#93 bobbetybob
Member since 2005 • 19370 Posts

competiton keeps prices down and quality upair_wolf_cubed

Last time I checked the prices haven't changed from PS1 and N64 era, with just two consoles they'd still be the same.

I really see no point for the 360 either, the only reason it exists is because MS wanted a slice of the gaming pie, they had the money to do so and in they came, buying up exclusives, charging customers for silly things like wireless adaptors, a function thats free in the DS for crying out loud. The exclusives they have would have been done on the PS2 or Gamecube and the PS3 or Wii if it never came about.

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#94 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]competiton keeps prices down and quality upbobbetybob

Last time I checked the prices haven't changed from PS1 and N64 era, with just two consoles they'd still be the same.

I really see no point for the 360 either, the only reason it exists is because MS wanted a slice of the gaming pie, they had the money to do so and in they came, buying up exclusives, charging customers for silly things like wireless adaptors, a function thats free in the DS for crying out loud. The exclusives they have would have been done on the PS2 or Gamecube and the PS3 or Wii if it never came about.

Wouldn't that also be true if there wasn't a PS3 or wii?
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#95 BuryMe
Member since 2004 • 22017 Posts

there's always been 3 systems. This isn't new.

and that's important. We seriously need the competition.

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#96 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]Yes there is. I like three. Sure it is expensive but still. I like my PS3 in way for hardware, movies and MSG4 than the 360 and Wii. I love my Wii for parties. I love my 360 for Online. I like 3 consolessparkypants

yeah but why pay for the online? when most of the games 360 has to offer end up on the PC and those same games offer online, wouldnt you rather use the free online seviers the PC offers as opposed to paying a fee for live?

Ok... But that's a completely seperate issue... Paying for online doesn't mean the consolehas no place onthe market...
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#97 cosmostein77
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Does anyone know where I can find a list of exlusive games by console? Not by score or review rank but just a list in itself.

That's why I own a 360.

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#98 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"]

[QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]Yes there is. I like three. Sure it is expensive but still. I like my PS3 in way for hardware, movies and MSG4 than the 360 and Wii. I love my Wii for parties. I love my 360 for Online. I like 3 consolesBuryMe

yeah but why pay for the online? when most of the games 360 has to offer end up on the PC and those same games offer online, wouldnt you rather use the free online seviers the PC offers as opposed to paying a fee for live?

Ok... But that's a completely seperate issue... Paying for online doesn't mean the consolehas no place onthe market...

It was just a remark to his comment above, if the only reason HE has a 360 is to play online, then why own it when you can play the same games on PC or the other 2 consoles free...

to answer your question, no they shouldnt be pulled just for that, there are many reasons why out of the 3 the 360 should be pulled but more so then none they are just opinion based

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#99 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

there's a stickied thread here that addresses this very issue. :|

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25781167

the 360 has more.

ImOldGreg

ahh Casey, we can always count on you to instill order in the chaos that is S.W

suck up much....

and casey...the wii alone ties up with the AAAEs in comparison(let alone adding the PC and PS3[doesnt help much lol])

as for AA all 3 combined have well over 56 exclusives....360 has 9...

so yeah casey way to go YOU ROCK!!!

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#100 naruto7777
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whatever helps u sleep at nightgohan2710
Agreed