There is no need for 3 systems!

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#101 CAlNlAC
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[QUOTE="ImOldGreg"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

there's a stickied thread here that addresses this very issue. :|

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25781167

the 360 has more.

sparkypants

ahh Casey, we can always count on you to instill order in the chaos that is S.W

suck up much....

and casey...the wii alone ties up with the AAAEs in comparison(let alone adding the PC and PS3[doesnt help much lol])

as for AA all 3 combined have well over 56 exclusives....360 has 9...

so yeah casey way to go YOU ROCK!!!

Wait what? Are you seriously combining PC, PS3 and Wii AA exclusives together coming to 60 and saying the Xbox 360 only has 9 on its own? Yeah thats really fair. I mean what happens if I were to combine PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 together? Yup together they have 65 total and Wii only has 6. Or look what happens if I were to combine PC, Wii and Xbox 360. Together they have 67 and the PS3 only has 4. So really I'm not sure what you're trying to say. No matter how you spin it, in terms of exclusive titles available now the PC is miles ahead. Following the PC is the Xbox 360, Wii and PS3 in that order.
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#102 tmntPunchout
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There's no need for a system at all.. Systems are all for entertainment and none are required to live :cry:.
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#103 Jackster523
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TC you should have said (There is no need for the Xbox 360) in your topic because clearly you hate it. Are you trying to make a point that people should be like you and buy a PS3 and PC combo so they can play the "best" games? Cause the last time i checked when I sit down and play games I like to sit on a couch and look at a big TV, where my friends can join me. so what if someone doesn't like the PS3 exclusives and would rather use a 360? Are you saying that they should have had to wait for the PS3 to come out cause you say its the smart thing to do? Your point really has no purpose other than making yourself feel better.

I by no means am against someone wanting to game on a PC or PS3, just don't say people are wrong for wanting to game on a system they like just because a game is out on another console or PC too.

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#104 sparkypants
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Wait what? Are you seriously combining PC, PS3 and Wii AA exclusives together coming to 60 and saying the Xbox 360 only has 9 on its own? Yeah thats really fair. I mean what happens if I were to combine PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 together? Yup together they have 65 total and Wii only has 6. Or look what happens if I were to combine PC, Wii and Xbox 360. Together they have 67 and the PS3 only has 4. So really I'm not sure what you're trying to say. No matter how you spin it, in terms of exclusive titles available now the PC is miles ahead. Following the PC is the Xbox 360, Wii and PS3 in that order.CAlNlAC

well if you read casey's comments he tries to pull the whole 360 beats wii and Ps3 in exlusives, but if you look at the AAAE the wii ties up with the 360 and togeth the PS3 and Wii out match the 360 in AAE...but if you also add the PC to the number of exclusives it blows the 360 out of the water!

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#105 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="ImOldGreg"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

there's a stickied thread here that addresses this very issue. :|

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25781167

the 360 has more.

sparkypants

ahh Casey, we can always count on you to instill order in the chaos that is S.W

suck up much....

and casey...the wii alone ties up with the AAAEs in comparison(let alone adding the PC and PS3[doesnt help much lol])

as for AA all 3 combined have well over 56 exclusives....360 has 9...

so yeah casey way to go YOU ROCK!!!

i'm aware that the 360 and wii are tied for AAAEs. however, the 360 has more AAEs. now why are you telling me that all the consoles combined have more AAEs than the 360? :?

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#106 sparkypants
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TC you should have said (There is no need for the Xbox 360) in your topic because clearly you hate it. Are you trying to make a point that people should be like you and buy a PS3 and PC combo so they can play the "best" games? Cause the last time i checked when I sit down and play games I like to sit on a couch and look at a big TV, where my friends can join me. so what if someone doesn't like the PS3 exclusives and would rather use a 360? Are you saying that they should have had to wait for the PS3 to come out cause you say its the smart thing to do? Your point really has no purpose other than making yourself feel better.

I by no means am against someone wanting to game on a PC or PS3, just don't say people are wrong for wanting to game on a system they like just because a game is out on another console or PC too.

Jackster523

I dont hate any system...I just hate how there are so many systems to buy because Im a gamer with little cash. What I want, since no one here gets it, is to have a 2 CONSOLE generation with PC...and I sorta singled out the 360 because it lines up with the PC and most of the games that you can find on a 360 can also be found on the other systems, but of course I got all the fanboy's panies in a bunch...so now its like Im out to get the 360(but Its not like I wasnt expecting this, this is gs after all)

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[QUOTE="CAlNlAC"] Wait what? Are you seriously combining PC, PS3 and Wii AA exclusives together coming to 60 and saying the Xbox 360 only has 9 on its own? Yeah thats really fair. I mean what happens if I were to combine PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 together? Yup together they have 65 total and Wii only has 6. Or look what happens if I were to combine PC, Wii and Xbox 360. Together they have 67 and the PS3 only has 4. So really I'm not sure what you're trying to say. No matter how you spin it, in terms of exclusive titles available now the PC is miles ahead. Following the PC is the Xbox 360, Wii and PS3 in that order.sparkypants

well if you read casey's comments he tries to pull the whole 360 beats wii and Ps3 in exlusives, but if you look at the AAAE the wii ties up with the 360 and togeth the PS3 and Wii out match the 360 in AAE...but if you also add the PC to the number of exclusives it blows the 360 out of the water!

nobody is denying that. :|

i really don't think you did your homework before making this thread. just looking at the stickied thread regarding game ratings would have saved you a lot of trouble.

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[QUOTE="CAlNlAC"] Wait what? Are you seriously combining PC, PS3 and Wii AA exclusives together coming to 60 and saying the Xbox 360 only has 9 on its own? Yeah thats really fair. I mean what happens if I were to combine PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 together? Yup together they have 65 total and Wii only has 6. Or look what happens if I were to combine PC, Wii and Xbox 360. Together they have 67 and the PS3 only has 4. So really I'm not sure what you're trying to say. No matter how you spin it, in terms of exclusive titles available now the PC is miles ahead. Following the PC is the Xbox 360, Wii and PS3 in that order.sparkypants

well if you read casey's comments he tries to pull the whole 360 beats wii and Ps3 in exlusives, but if you look at the AAAE the wii ties up with the 360 and togeth the PS3 and Wii out match the 360 in AAE...but if you also add the PC to the number of exclusives it blows the 360 out of the water!

The 360 does beat the PS3 and Wii in exclusives, while the 360 and Wii are tied with AAAE, the 360 does have an edge over the Wii on AAE games, so the 360 has more exclusives than the PS3 and Wii. But it does not have more than the PS3 and Wii combined Casey didn't say that.

Lets look at the PS3 vs PC, 360, Wii with AAAE games. PS3=0, zip, zero, nada, the PC, 360, Wii=17. Talk about blowing the PS3 out of the water. If you add AAE games the 360, PC, Wii has 85, the PS3 only has 4 :shock:

(note this wasn't serious it is not fair to compare one consoles vs. 3 systems.

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#109 sparkypants
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i'm aware that the 360 and wii are tied for AAAEs. however, the 360 has more AAEs. now why are you telling me that all the consoles combined have more AAEs than the 360? :?

CaseyWegner

because your saying the 360 has more AAAEs and AAEs then the PS3 and Wii combined

good thing it has enough actual exclusives to trump the wii and ps3.CaseyWegner

but in fact

the Wii ties the 360 in AAAEs

and the Wii and PS3 have a total of 10 AAEs, while the 360 has 9

MATH IS FUN!

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#110 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i'm aware that the 360 and wii are tied for AAAEs. however, the 360 has more AAEs. now why are you telling me that all the consoles combined have more AAEs than the 360? :?

sparkypants

because your saying the 360 has more AAAEs and AAEs then the PS3 and Wii combined

good thing it has enough actual exclusives to trump the wii and ps3.CaseyWegner

but in fact

the Wii ties the 360 in AAAEs

and the Wii and PS3 have a total of 10 AAEs, while the 360 has 9

MATH IS FUN!

when did i ever say the word "combined"? :?

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#111 sparkypants
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when did i ever say the word "combined"? :?

CaseyWegner

It was implied. It would help if you used proper grammer,because if you had used "or" instead of "and" that would imply you were comparing the 360 to each system seperatly, but since you used "and", you made wii and PS3 collective thus it made it sound like you were saying 360 has more then both put together.

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#112 glitchgeeman
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I sort of agree. I wouldn't have minded if all the games on the 360 went to the Wii and PS3. It'd make my life a lot simpler. Actually, I wouldn't mind if all the PS3 games went to the 360 and Wii either. The 360 and PS3 are both consoles that offer something slightly different, but when it comes down to it, practically every game on one could be feasibly played on the other.

Oh well, they say competition keep quality high so if all three continue to make high-quality games, I won't mind too much.

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#113 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

when did i ever say the word "combined"? :?

sparkypants

It was implied. It would help if you used proper grammer,because if you had used "or" instead of "and" that would imply you were comparing the 360 to each system seperatly, but since you used "and", you made wii and PS3 collective thus it made it sound like you were saying 360 has more then both put together.

it was not implied. so far you're the only one who thinks i meant combined. even if i did mean combined, shouldn't there be a red flag showing up in your head that told you that there's a problem with your logic if it takes more than one system to outdo one system?

this was my most recent post mentioning the exclusive count.

"the entire premise of your thread makes no sense. you're saying it's bad that it has more multiplats than the ps3 or wii but you're completely ignoring the more important detail in that it has more exclusives than the ps3 or wii."

if it'll make you happy, i'll go back and edit the one post i made where i did say "and" instead of "or".

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#114 sparkypants
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I sort of agree. I wouldn't have minded if all the games on the 360 went to the Wii and PS3. It'd make my life a lot simpler. Actually, I wouldn't mind if all the PS3 games went to the 360 and Wii either. The 360 and PS3 are both consoles that offer something slightly different, but when it comes down to it, practically every game on one could be feasibly played on the other.

Oh well, they say competition keep quality high so if all three continue to make high-quality games, I won't mind too much.

glitchgeeman

the reason I used the 360 over the Ps3 is because if a game for the 360 isnt also on the PS3 chances are its on the PC...take for example, Bioshock,Gears,Mass Effect and so on...

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#115 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="glitchgeeman"]

I sort of agree. I wouldn't have minded if all the games on the 360 went to the Wii and PS3. It'd make my life a lot simpler. Actually, I wouldn't mind if all the PS3 games went to the 360 and Wii either. The 360 and PS3 are both consoles that offer something slightly different, but when it comes down to it, practically every game on one could be feasibly played on the other.

Oh well, they say competition keep quality high so if all three continue to make high-quality games, I won't mind too much.

sparkypants

the reason I used the 360 over the Ps3 is because if a game for the 360 isnt also on the PS3 chances are its on the PC...take for example, Bioshock,Gears,Mass Effect and so on...

why are you still doing this? the 360 has more AAA and AA exclusives than the ps3 does.

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#116 leejohnson7
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No need for 3? That's a pity because we have 4.
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#117 GabeRamos
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I dont consider the Wii as part of our current gen consoles. It has more in common with the previous gen, and it doesnt necessarly compete with the other 2. the wii is more like a toy than a serious console. I therefore beleive there would be no competition between the consoles if one of the 2 serious consoles left, which by the way wont happen. The wii, to me and to many others, exists on its own as a diversion to the more serious advancements in video games
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#118 sparkypants
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why are you still doing this? the 360 has more AAA and AA exclusives than the ps3 does.

CaseyWegner

Heres my reason: Im not just talking AAA and AA, though they seem to come up the most because thats all you care about. Your source fails to take in account the AEs each system has(which throws away a whole catagory of games) it just stops at AA to talk about the HIGH RATED GAMES ON GAMESPOT(which is for one a matter of a opinion). What would be a more correct source, would be a third party source that dosent focus on the GS scores and stop at AA. So until you can pull up a source that just takes ito consideration the number of exclusive each specific consoles has without throwing an opinion based "fact" such as scores into the mix I will continue to disreguard your comments on the matter!

Does that answer your question now?

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#119 sparkypants
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I dont consider the Wii as part of our current gen consoles. It has more in common with the previous gen, and it doesnt necessarly compete with the other 2. the wii is more like a toy than a serious console. I therefore beleive there would be no competition between the consoles if one of the 2 serious consoles left, which by the way wont happen. The wii, to me and to many others, exists on its own as a diversion to the more serious advancements in video gamesGabeRamos

Well that a shame because the Wii is current gen and its provin itself worthy by managing to outsell both the 360 and PS3. and it is not a diversion it is bringing something like interactive gameplay from out of the shadows and in to the forefront of gaming(I guarantee you MS and sony will both use this tech next gen). There are a few issues with it and of course many companies arent taking it seriously but thats because its the first of its kind. By next gen the kinks will be gone and everyone will be using this technology...and suddenly interactive play will be "serious gaming" as you call it

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#120 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why are you still doing this? the 360 has more AAA and AA exclusives than the ps3 does.

sparkypants

Heres my reason: Im not just talking AAA and AA, though they seem to come up the most because thats all you care about. Your source fails to take in account the AEs each system has(which throws away a whole catagory of games) it just stops at AA to talk about the HIGH RATED GAMES ON GAMESPOT(which is for one a matter of a opinion). What would be a more correct source, would be a third party source that dosent focus on the GS scores and stop at AA. So until you can pull up a source that just takes ito consideration the number of exclusive each specific consoles has without throwing an opinion based "fact" such as scores into the mix I will continue to disreguard your comments on the matter!

Does that answer your question now?

you think the ps3 or wii has enough AE games to make up for the shortage in AAAE and AAEs? why are you just now mentioning this? what kind of source are you looking for and why are you asking me to provide it? you're the one making the claim that the 360 is lacking exclusives.

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#121 Snowboarder99
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Wow TC, I posted that a long time ago and it's still in your sig...good luck with it. Anyways, I don't really understand your argument...

AAAA games (Exclusive)

-360: 1 (0)

-PS3: 1 (0)

AAA games (Exclusive)

-PC: 17 (9)

-360: 13 (4)

-PS3: 8 (0)

-Wii: 6 (4)

AA games (Exclusive)

-PC: 77 (53)

-360: 61 (9)

-PS3: 37 (4)

-Wii: 20 (6)

...that was taken from the stickied thread. The 360 is in second place, above the PS3 and Wii so I think it has a place

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[QUOTE="CAlNlAC"] Wait what? Are you seriously combining PC, PS3 and Wii AA exclusives together coming to 60 and saying the Xbox 360 only has 9 on its own? Yeah thats really fair. I mean what happens if I were to combine PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 together? Yup together they have 65 total and Wii only has 6. Or look what happens if I were to combine PC, Wii and Xbox 360. Together they have 67 and the PS3 only has 4. So really I'm not sure what you're trying to say. No matter how you spin it, in terms of exclusive titles available now the PC is miles ahead. Following the PC is the Xbox 360, Wii and PS3 in that order.sparkypants

well if you read casey's comments he tries to pull the whole 360 beats wii and Ps3 in exlusives, but if you look at the AAAE the wii ties up with the 360 and togeth the PS3 and Wii out match the 360 in AAE...but if you also add the PC to the number of exclusives it blows the 360 out of the water!

By that logic who needs a PS3.

The 360 and Wii destory the PS3 in AAA exclusives.

8 to zero.

The AA exclusives is what

15 to 4.

If anything the weakest of all the systems should be left out and that would be the PS3. The 360 has actually delivered worthwhile exclusives this gen...

But this is all your logic.
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#123 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="glitchgeeman"]

I sort of agree. I wouldn't have minded if all the games on the 360 went to the Wii and PS3. It'd make my life a lot simpler. Actually, I wouldn't mind if all the PS3 games went to the 360 and Wii either. The 360 and PS3 are both consoles that offer something slightly different, but when it comes down to it, practically every game on one could be feasibly played on the other.

Oh well, they say competition keep quality high so if all three continue to make high-quality games, I won't mind too much.

sparkypants

the reason I used the 360 over the Ps3 is because if a game for the 360 isnt also on the PS3 chances are its on the PC...take for example, Bioshock,Gears,Mass Effect and so on...



Halo 3 is not on the PC/PS3
Forza 2 is not on the PC/PS3
GRAW is not on the PC/PS3(yes the sequal is)
Saints Row is not on the PC/PS3
Dead Rising is not on the PC/PS3
Eternal Sonota is not on the PC/PS3
Kameo is not on the PC/PS3
Perfect Dark Zero is not on the PC/PS3
PGR 3 is not on the PC/PS3
PGR 4 is not on the PC/PS3
DOA 4 is not on the PC/PS3
Ace COmbat 6 is not on the PC/PS3
Lost Odyssey is not on the PC/PS3

Later this year Tales of Vesperia, Ninja Gaiden 2, Infinite Undiscoverey, Halo Wars, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Too Human, Banjo Nuts and Bolts, Viva Pinata Trouble In Paradise, etc will not be on the PC/PS3.

What does the PS3 have right now. Ratchet, Resistance, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk and Motorstrom as worthwhile exclusives since launch. everything else can be found on the 360 or PS3.

The future lineup this year has MGS 4, Resistance 2, Infamous, Little Big planet, Motorstorm 2, Tekken 6, White knight Chronicles, Disgea, Valkyrie, Socom

Exactly what does the PS3 have to brag about, when the 360 has had more exclusives, and as many if not more worthwhile exclusives on the way.
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#124 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why are you still doing this? the 360 has more AAA and AA exclusives than the ps3 does.

CaseyWegner

Heres my reason: Im not just talking AAA and AA, though they seem to come up the most because thats all you care about. Your source fails to take in account the AEs each system has(which throws away a whole catagory of games) it just stops at AA to talk about the HIGH RATED GAMES ON GAMESPOT(which is for one a matter of a opinion). What would be a more correct source, would be a third party source that dosent focus on the GS scores and stop at AA. So until you can pull up a source that just takes ito consideration the number of exclusive each specific consoles has without throwing an opinion based "fact" such as scores into the mix I will continue to disreguard your comments on the matter!

Does that answer your question now?

you think the ps3 or wii has enough AE games to make up for the shortage in AAAE and AAEs? why are you just now mentioning this? what kind of source are you looking for and why are you asking me to provide it? you're the one making the claim that the 360 is lacking exclusives.

you asked,I answered.

also a good example would be ratchet and Clank,while it is just one game its an exclusive being left out by your source and I can only imagine how many more games(for all systems) are being left out.

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#125 Snowboarder99
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you asked,I answered.

also a good example would be ratchet and Clank,while it is just one game its an exclusive being left out by your source and I can only imagine how many more games(for all systems) are being left out.

sparkypants

It could be argued Lost Odyssey was left out. But let's just stick with the scores they got.

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#126 Chaos_HL21
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you asked,I answered.

also a good example would be ratchet and Clank,while it is just one game its an exclusive being left out by your source and I can only imagine how many more games(for all systems) are being left out.

sparkypants

But at the end of the day those sub-AAE games of the PS3's doesn't make up for the PS3's lack of AAE and AAAE games.

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#127 CaseyWegner
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you asked,I answered.

also a good example would be ratchet and Clank,while it is just one game its an exclusive being left out by your source and I can only imagine how many more games(for all systems) are being left out.

sparkypants

can't you just admit that you were wrong? it's been proven every step of the way. do you honestly think that there are enough "underrated" games on the ps3 or wii to make up the difference? even if you go to gamerankings.com you'll still see that the 360 has more high scoring exclusives than the ps3 or wii.

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#129 kokomos
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There also isn't a need for Macs, nor is there for competition. Competition keeps industries going, otherwise prices won't fall, and no one will innovate. The reason we have the Wii is because of competition. The Xbox was around because of competition.

Morale: No comptetition=laziness.

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#130 Snowboarder99
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WHAT PART OF SCORE=OPINION DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND...I DONT CARE ABOUT SCORES IM JUST TALKING EXLUSIVES HERE!!!

sparkypants

Could you add up the number of currently released exclusives each system has to help support your argument?

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#131 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

you asked,I answered.

also a good example would be ratchet and Clank,while it is just one game its an exclusive being left out by your source and I can only imagine how many more games(for all systems) are being left out.

sparkypants

can't you just admit that you were wrong? it's been proven every step of the way. do you honestly think that there are enough "underrated" games on the ps3 or wii to make up the difference? even if you go to gamerankings.com you'll still see that the 360 has more high scoring exclusives than the ps3 or wii.

WHAT PART OF SCORE=OPINION DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND...I DONT CARE ABOUT SCORES IM JUST TALKING EXLUSIVES HERE!!!

and you're still most likely wrong! why do you keep insisting things when you've been shown to be wrong every single step of the way? if you have the numbers, show me. you're making the claim that the 360 is short on exclusives.

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#133 tm0054
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Personally I think the 360 is by far the best console on the market right now. If I had to drop a console this time around it would be the PS3 which is something I never thought I'd say based on the PS1 and PS2.
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#134 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

you asked,I answered.

also a good example would be ratchet and Clank,while it is just one game its an exclusive being left out by your source and I can only imagine how many more games(for all systems) are being left out.

sparkypants

can't you just admit that you were wrong? it's been proven every step of the way. do you honestly think that there are enough "underrated" games on the ps3 or wii to make up the difference? even if you go to gamerankings.com you'll still see that the 360 has more high scoring exclusives than the ps3 or wii.

WHAT PART OF SCORE=OPINION DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND...I DONT CARE ABOUT SCORES IM JUST TALKING EXLUSIVES HERE!!!

If we are just looking at exclusives the number of 360's exclusives really kills the PS3s list, if we are going by opinion I could just say there is no need for the PS3 becasue the only games I like for it is on the 360 or PC.

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#135 sparkypants
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and you're still most likely wrong! why do you keep insisting things when you've been shown to be wrong every single step of the way? if you have the numbers, show me. you're making the claim that the 360 is short on exclusives.

CaseyWegner

and you have yet to prove it!

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#136 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and you're still most likely wrong! why do you keep insisting things when you've been shown to be wrong every single step of the way? if you have the numbers, show me. you're making the claim that the 360 is short on exclusives.

sparkypants

and you have yet to prove it!

you're the one making the claim, dude. the burden of proof is on you. but do you really think that the console that beats the other two in AAAEs and AAEs is going to somehow fall behind when it comes to lower scoring games? i've been correct regarding everything else you've thrown at me, why would i start being wrong now?

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#137 sparkypants
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you're the one making the claim, dude. the burden of proof is on you. but do you really think that the console that beats the other two in AAAEs and AAEs is going to somehow fall behind when it comes to lower scoring games? i've been correct regarding everything else you've thrown at me, why would i start being wrong now?

CaseyWegner

...Because by taking away the "A" games you leave out alot of games that were designed specificlly for the wii...

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#138 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you're the one making the claim, dude. the burden of proof is on you. but do you really think that the console that beats the other two in AAAEs and AAEs is going to somehow fall behind when it comes to lower scoring games? i've been correct regarding everything else you've thrown at me, why would i start being wrong now?

sparkypants

...Because by taking away the "A" games you leave out alot of games that were designed specificlly for the wii...

then show me the list. until you show it, you're just making things up.

and i'd still like to know why you shifted your argument from "hit games" to "all exclusive, regardless of score/popularity" games.

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#139 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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This has got to be the dumbest thread in awhile. One that lacks a bit of common sense.

First off, TC:

  1. You could have easily stated YOU don't like the 360.
  2. Assuming YOU are tight on cash, GET A JOB.
  3. Assuming YOU are tight on cash, 360 is a cheaper alternative, why in hell would you support the PC (assuming YOU'RE a PC gamer, who requires MONEY for internal hardware) in the first place? That doesn't make sense.
  4. NO ONE is forcing YOU to buy all 3 Systems.
  5. 360 is a cheaper (simpler) alternative to the PC for many gamers (like myself) who are sick and tired of the painstaking B.S. tediousness of PC building and gaming setup and currently 360 has some of the top rated titles in it's library. Also, it has some exclusives you'll never find on the PC.

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#140 Jade_Monkey
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This has got to be the dumbest thread in awhile. One that lacks a bit of common sense.

First off, TC:

  1. You could have easily stated YOU don't like the 360.
  2. Assuming YOU are tight on cash, GET A JOB.
  3. Assuming YOU are tight on cash, 360 is a cheaper alternative, why in hell would you support the PC (assuming YOU'RE a PC gamer, who requires MONEY for internal hardware) in the first place? That doesn't make sense.
  4. NO ONE is forcing YOU to buy all 3 Systems.
  5. 360 is a cheaper (simpler) alternative to the PC for many gamers (like myself) who are sick and tired of the painstaking B.S. tediousness of PC building and gaming setup and currently 360 has some of the top rated titles in it's library. Also, it has some exclusives you'll never find on the PC.

VERTIGO47

1. Agreed

2. Agreed

4. Agreed

5. If you do a good upgrade you won't need to upgrade again for 2-4 years. There are less and elss exclusives for all systems each gen it seems.

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#141 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you're the one making the claim, dude. the burden of proof is on you. but do you really think that the console that beats the other two in AAAEs and AAEs is going to somehow fall behind when it comes to lower scoring games? i've been correct regarding everything else you've thrown at me, why would i start being wrong now?

CaseyWegner

...Because by taking away the "A" games you leave out alot of games that were designed specificlly for the wii...

then show me the list. until you show it, you're just making things up.

and i'd still like to know why you shifted your argument from "hit games" to "all exclusive, regardless of score/popularity" games.

Using wikipedia alone I compare all 3 console in number of exclusives. The page itself says if it is exclusive or not and I took into consideration weather it had a TBA or release date(if it was out or not) for all three.I just went down the lists off "yes"

since it didnt have a set number for each I had to hand count each(I counted each one a total of 3 times to make sure the numbers are acurate and here is what I found)

Accourding to the site(regardless of release date) the PS3 has a total of 118 exclusive games

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_Of_PS3_Games

Accourding to the same site (which offers the link below the PS3 one to the 360 one) claims that the 360 has a *shocking* number of 99 exclusive games(I didnt believe it at first so I counted this one 5 times)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games

As for the wii...the links there for yourself to see I didnt want to hand count more games after counting a total of 217games

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_games

Note:to make the counting easier for you(if you want to double check) click the button under exclusives that looks like two triangle kissing and it will sort out the games in a more reasonable matter. I also want to note that I only counted YES and not console exclusives

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#142 Chaos_HL21
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The problem with using Wikipedia is it can be wrong, it listed Star Ocean 4 as a PS3 game, when offically it does not have a system.

Games like Mahjong Taikai IV, Mahjong Fight Club Online, Railfan: Chicago Transit Authority Brown Line, and others will probably never make it to American shores

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#143 CaseyWegner
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lots of shovelware and obscure games that aren't even available. this is why we go by scores.
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#144 mrjam0
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i can see where ur coming from with ur argument, and i commend u for voicing it as an opinion instead of imposing it on others like we need to accept it as our lord and savior (we've all seen those threads).

but i have to slighly disagree. u said in ur statement, "the console that has yet to impress me is the 360" meaning that even at launch, comparing it to the other consoles, u thought that the 360 was offering less. i'd like to correct u on that one that the 360 had a lot to offer, for more than the ps3. it had more and better exclusives than the ps3 up to about the middle of last year. u did say that most of the exclusives end up on the pc. i dont know about most, but ill agree that a lot haver made the transler like gears, bioshock, and soon mass effect (didnt follow up on the release date) but, there are those gamers that would prefer to sacrifice the benefits of the pc due to the matenance and upgrading that's required (reguardless what and hermit says). so they settle for a 360 knowing that everything will be available at their finger tips. now, cows have ranted that this is going to be sonys year, and now i will confidently, but respectivly disagree. 360 has one hell of a line up including soon to come ninja gaiden 2, gears 2, too human, and much more exclusives. some might make the jump from 360 to pc, but if were talking console wars? 360 has a hell of a lot to offer.

so there is a reason to own all three. wii's obvious, because its different, and excells in its own reguard, ps3, though not going to dominated the competion like some poor bastards have mistaken, is getting a solid line up: mgs4, little big planet, etc. and M$, as ive already mentioned has many of its own.

glad to hear a well delivered opinion :)

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#145 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

Lol wut?

Doesn't the 360 not only have more users than the PS3 but also more exclusives, thereby justifying its existence?

CaseyWegner

yeah but most of its said exclusives usally end up on the PC...I though I made that point relevant

but they don't. :?

Well most of it's AAA ones do.
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#146 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

Lol wut?

Doesn't the 360 not only have more users than the PS3 but also more exclusives, thereby justifying its existence?

Spybot_9

yeah but most of its said exclusives usally end up on the PC...I though I made that point relevant

but they don't. :?

Well most of it's AAA ones do.

*sigh*

the only AAAE it has lost is gears. how is that most?

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#147 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

Lol wut?

Doesn't the 360 not only have more users than the PS3 but also more exclusives, thereby justifying its existence?

Spybot_9

yeah but most of its said exclusives usally end up on the PC...I though I made that point relevant

but they don't. :?

Well most of it's AAA ones do.

Only on SW does one game (Gears) equate to several.

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#148 user_nat
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you're the one making the claim, dude. the burden of proof is on you. but do you really think that the console that beats the other two in AAAEs and AAEs is going to somehow fall behind when it comes to lower scoring games? i've been correct regarding everything else you've thrown at me, why would i start being wrong now?

sparkypants

...Because by taking away the "A" games you leave out alot of games that were designed specificlly for the wii...

Well from what I can see on the list.. the 360 has atleast the following A exclusives that I could see on the list of 360 games:

Chromehounds

Crackdown

Lost Oddessy

Scene It

Beautiful Katamari

Fuzion Frenzy 2

DDR Universe

FEAR Files

Naruto: Rise of a Ninja

Earth Defence Force

Arcade Unplugged (A retail compliation of arcade titles.. not sure if this counts)

Those are games on no other platforms (I didn't list arcade games.. and theres alot of them). However, there is a massive amount of games that it either shares with only the PC or with only last gen systems (which the 360 obviously has the better version of in many cases).

Now that I've done that.. could the TC provide a list of either the PS3 or Wii with more A exclusives (games that are not downloadable, or any last gen/handheld console.)

Anyways, until disproven.. we can assume the 360 has the most AEs of the consoles.

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#149 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"]

your right the 360 has more (for lack of a better word)ports... or games on more then one system then the other systems Im not ignoring this...

CaseyWegner

the entire premise of your thread makes no sense. you're saying it's bad that it has more multiplats than the ps3 or wii but you're completely ignoring the more important detail in that it has more exclusives than the ps3 or wii.

Hmm and why are you ignoring the fact that the TC isnt saying the the 360 is a bad console but that it isnt needed.

Most of the 360's thrid party AAE's are there becasue of "default",because it was the only next gen console for 1 year.You are ignoring that it came a year earlier and that's why it has more exclusives.Now since the PS3 has come I dont see any AA third party exclusives anymore and most of the 360's first party games end up on the PC so what's the point of that console?

You cant include games like saints row,GRAW and dead rising in this argument.As I said those games are exclusive to the 360 because of "default",saints row 2 isnt,GRAW 2 isnt and I am sure neither will dead rising 2 be.

Really in all seriousness the only 2 noteworthy exclusives the 360 has are the 2 racing games forza 2 and PGR4.Halo 3 isnt exclsuive.

Once a sequel goes multiplat then the importance of the previous games exclusisvity is pretty much dead IMO UNLESS you are talking final fantasy whose every game is completely different.

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#150 Virus214
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3 systems are needed, if there were 2 or 1, the standards would DROP, monopoly = poorer quality of games... competition is GOOD to have.