There is no need for 3 systems!

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

CoD4 was advertised.

Whats the whole argument in this thread now?

sparkypants

Im trying to say there is no need for 3 consoles 2 would be fine, I suggest that the 360 should be pulled because it has the least exclusives and alot of its selling titles are on the PC. Now before you jump ship I have pulled a 3rd party source that compare the 3 systems exclusive titles its on pg9 I believe. While my argument may have been alittle drastic, someone with alittle common sense convinced me that 3 consoles are nessisary to help balance sales but made the claim that it shouldnt be MS but another company in itself(he suggested MS stick to PC and help make it a competitor instead of an outlet)...that was the idea, but thanks to casey I had to speand 3 pgs explaining the diffrence between FACT and OPINION.

also CoD4 had little advertisment, In fact the only reason I knew about it was from here...

so you want to dump the console with the most high rated exclusives in favor of one with fewer? cod4 had lots of advertisement, dude. there were tv commercials and everything.

[QUOTE="sparkypants"]

Well then thats the companies fault,and the fact the game is there is fact as well...so in a case like this when we are talking about exclusives that game CAN be used as an argument because it is a fact that the game is exclusive and it is a fact that well its a game. and to disprove you on your earlier comment, the sales of an individual game would never be put into play unless you were comparing two games(because Im talking systems, and its clear they exist)

I would also like to add CoD4 had very little advertisment, and it still managed to sell well now didnt it

CaseyWegner

if you admit that sales could be the companies fault, why on earth should we use sales as a factor?

I said advertisments, if a company chooses to not advertise its there fault, but that doesnt really have to stop the game from selling,If a game is good, trust me it will sell but its like I said before, you dont usally compare sales of games unless your comparing 2 games of the same genera. you usally use sales to compare systems...and I dont think advertising is needed for that people know they are there...now then back to the topic.

[QUOTE="sparkypants"]

also CoD4 had little advertisment, In fact the only reason I knew about it was from here...

Snowboarder99

Whether or not COD4 was advertised a good amount is besides the point. The point is how much this game is advertised will affect its sales, and not the game itself. Therefore, sales are not a good indicator of the quality of a game.

QED

...contradiction much :?

If sales equal quality of the game then here are the EXCLUSIVE games that sold on the 360

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=&console=X360&developer=&publisher=&genre=&keyword=&order=Sales

Halo 3- 7.90m

Forza 2- 3.87m

Graw- 2.15m

Saints Row- 1.77m

Crackdown- 1.45m

Perfect Dark Zero- 1.40m

Dead or Alive 4- 1.01m

That's all I can come up with. Notice how 4 of there AAAE titles are million sellers?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

CoD4 was advertised.

Whats the whole argument in this thread now?

sparkypants

Im trying to say there is no need for 3 consoles 2 would be fine, I suggest that the 360 should be pulled because it has the least exclusives and alot of its selling titles are on the PC. Now before you jump ship I have pulled a 3rd party source that compare the 3 systems exclusive titles its on pg9 I believe. While my argument may have been alittle drastic, someone with alittle common sense convinced me that 3 consoles are nessisary to help balance sales but made the claim that it shouldnt be MS but another company in itself(he suggested MS stick to PC and help make it a competitor instead of an outlet)...that was the idea, but thanks to casey I had to speand 3 pgs explaining the diffrence between FACT and OPINION.

also CoD4 had little advertisment, In fact the only reason I knew about it was from here...

Wouldn't it make more sense to pull the PS3, since the 360 software is drastically outselling the PS3s? Obviously if more software is selling on it than a competitor, some people must like it.

And if you saw no ads for CoD4, you must have missed every gaming mag in the months before November, and must not have watched Spike TV, MTV, or VH1 at all. Only game I have saw more adverts for has been GTAIV.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

Well then thats the companies fault,and the fact the game is there is fact as well...so in a case like this when we are talking about exclusives that game CAN be used as an argument because it is a fact that the game is exclusive and it is a fact that well its a game. and to disprove you on your earlier comment, the sales of an individual game would never be put into play unless you were comparing two games(because Im talking systems, and its clear they exist)

I would also like to add CoD4 had very little advertisment, and it still managed to sell well now didnt it

sparkypants

if you admit that sales could be the companies fault, why on earth should we use sales as a factor?

I said advertisments, if a company chooses to not advertise its there fault, but that doesnt really have to stop the game from selling,If a game is good, trust me it will sell but its like I said before, you dont usally compare sales of games unless your comparing 2 games of the same genera. you usally use sales to compare systems...and I dont think advertising is needed for that people know they are there...now then back to the topic.

But good games don't always sell well.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

Well then thats the companies fault,and the fact the game is there is fact as well...so in a case like this when we are talking about exclusives that game CAN be used as an argument because it is a fact that the game is exclusive and it is a fact that well its a game. and to disprove you on your earlier comment, the sales of an individual game would never be put into play unless you were comparing two games(because Im talking systems, and its clear they exist)

I would also like to add CoD4 had very little advertisment, and it still managed to sell well now didnt it

sparkypants

if you admit that sales could be the companies fault, why on earth should we use sales as a factor?

I said advertisments, if a company chooses to not advertise its there fault, but that doesnt really have to stop the game from selling,If a game is good, trust me it will sell but its like I said before, you dont usally compare sales of games unless your comparing 2 games of the same genera. you usally use sales to compare systems...and I dont think advertising is needed for that people know they are there...now then back to the topic.

no. if you're going to use sales then no variables other than quality should be able to affect it.

[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

CoD4 was advertised.

Whats the whole argument in this thread now?

Unforgiven2870

Im trying to say there is no need for 3 consoles 2 would be fine, I suggest that the 360 should be pulled because it has the least exclusives and alot of its selling titles are on the PC. Now before you jump ship I have pulled a 3rd party source that compare the 3 systems exclusive titles its on pg9 I believe. While my argument may have been alittle drastic, someone with alittle common sense convinced me that 3 consoles are nessisary to help balance sales but made the claim that it shouldnt be MS but another company in itself(he suggested MS stick to PC and help make it a competitor instead of an outlet)...that was the idea, but thanks to casey I had to speand 3 pgs explaining the diffrence between FACT and OPINION.

also CoD4 had little advertisment, In fact the only reason I knew about it was from here...

good job understanding conjunctions, the "and" was adding to the thought by saying alot of its SELLING TITLES(not exclusives)are on the PC...when you highlight exclusives you highlighted the end of the "...it has the least EXCLUSIVES" part.

reading comprehension ftw...

If sales equal quality of the game then here are the EXCLUSIVE games that sold on the 360

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=&console=X360&developer=&publisher=&genre=&keyword=&order=Sales

Halo 3- 7.90m

Forza 2- 3.87m

Graw- 2.15m

Saints Row- 1.77m

Crackdown- 1.45m

Perfect Dark Zero- 1.40m

Dead or Alive 4- 1.01m

That's all I can come up with. Notice how 4 of there AAAE titles are million sellers?

FireEmblem_Man

I'm still waiting for the TC to spin this, besides I would like to add with multiplat games the 360 still outsells there ps3 counterparts so there's no need to pull out microsoft if third party companies are still making money of the system.

Wouldn't it make more sense to pull the PS3, since the 360 software is drastically outselling the PS3s? Obviously if more software is selling on it than a competitor, some people must like it.

And if you saw no ads for CoD4, you must have missed every gaming mag in the months before November, and must not have watched Spike TV, MTV, or VH1 at all. Only game I have saw more adverts for has been GTAIV.

SpruceCaboose

On paper shure, but hes were my idea came into play. While the 360 is pulling more in sales it offers less. This is because Microsoft chooses to share some of its high selling 360 games with the PC or PS3, so whats the point of having it especially with the cost of consoles being as high as they are. I figured it would be nicer on budgets if there were two systems...and the logical one to drop would be the one that offers less. It was then suggested that having 2 systems wouldnt be a good way to drop budgets, 3 consoles keep prices in check...his solution, why not have MS focus on PC and let another 3rd console step in...but thats just one idea.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Wouldn't it make more sense to pull the PS3, since the 360 software is drastically outselling the PS3s? Obviously if more software is selling on it than a competitor, some people must like it.

And if you saw no ads for CoD4, you must have missed every gaming mag in the months before November, and must not have watched Spike TV, MTV, or VH1 at all. Only game I have saw more adverts for has been GTAIV.

sparkypants

On paper shure, but hes were my idea came into play. While the 360 is pulling more in sales it offers less. This is because Microsoft chooses to share some of its high selling 360 games with the PC or PS3, so whats the point of having it especially with the cost of consoles being as high as they are. I figured it would be nicer on budgets if there were two systems...and the logical one to drop would be the one that offers less. It was then suggested that having 2 systems wouldnt be a good way to drop budgets, 3 consoles keep prices in check...his solution, why not have MS focus on PC and let another 3rd console step in...but thats just one idea.

because the 360 has more high rated exclusives than the ps3 or the wii.

[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Wouldn't it make more sense to pull the PS3, since the 360 software is drastically outselling the PS3s? Obviously if more software is selling on it than a competitor, some people must like it.

And if you saw no ads for CoD4, you must have missed every gaming mag in the months before November, and must not have watched Spike TV, MTV, or VH1 at all. Only game I have saw more adverts for has been GTAIV.

CaseyWegner

On paper shure, but hes were my idea came into play. While the 360 is pulling more in sales it offers less. This is because Microsoft chooses to share some of its high selling 360 games with the PC or PS3, so whats the point of having it especially with the cost of consoles being as high as they are. I figured it would be nicer on budgets if there were two systems...and the logical one to drop would be the one that offers less. It was then suggested that having 2 systems wouldnt be a good way to drop budgets, 3 consoles keep prices in check...his solution, why not have MS focus on PC and let another 3rd console step in...but thats just one idea.

because the 360 has more high rated exclusives than the ps3 or the wii.

But those high rated exclusives on the 360 are even higher on PC. ;)

[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Wouldn't it make more sense to pull the PS3, since the 360 software is drastically outselling the PS3s? Obviously if more software is selling on it than a competitor, some people must like it.

And if you saw no ads for CoD4, you must have missed every gaming mag in the months before November, and must not have watched Spike TV, MTV, or VH1 at all. Only game I have saw more adverts for has been GTAIV.

CaseyWegner

On paper shure, but hes were my idea came into play. While the 360 is pulling more in sales it offers less. This is because Microsoft chooses to share some of its high selling 360 games with the PC or PS3, so whats the point of having it especially with the cost of consoles being as high as they are. I figured it would be nicer on budgets if there were two systems...and the logical one to drop would be the one that offers less. It was then suggested that having 2 systems wouldnt be a good way to drop budgets, 3 consoles keep prices in check...his solution, why not have MS focus on PC and let another 3rd console step in...but thats just one idea.

Don't forget that those exclusives sold over a million

because the 360 has more high rated exclusives than the ps3 or the wii.

Don't forget that those exclusives sold over a million

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Wouldn't it make more sense to pull the PS3, since the 360 software is drastically outselling the PS3s? Obviously if more software is selling on it than a competitor, some people must like it.

And if you saw no ads for CoD4, you must have missed every gaming mag in the months before November, and must not have watched Spike TV, MTV, or VH1 at all. Only game I have saw more adverts for has been GTAIV.

sparkypants

On paper shure, but hes were my idea came into play. While the 360 is pulling more in sales it offers less. This is because Microsoft chooses to share some of its high selling 360 games with the PC or PS3, so whats the point of having it especially with the cost of consoles being as high as they are. I figured it would be nicer on budgets if there were two systems...and the logical one to drop would be the one that offers less. It was then suggested that having 2 systems wouldnt be a good way to drop budgets, 3 consoles keep prices in check...his solution, why not have MS focus on PC and let another 3rd console step in...but thats just one idea.

Why the 360. The 360 currently have more AAE and AAAE games. The PS3 may have more sub-AAE games but I don't think it really makes up the gap (also would like a better souce than Wikipeida, who had games that will never come out in the US).

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

because the 360 has more high rated exclusives than the ps3 or the wii.

dream431ca

But those high rated exclusives on the 360 are even higher on PC. ;)

then they're not exclusive.

But those high rated exclusives on the 360 are even higher on PC. ;)

dream431ca

How is that possible if they aren't on the PC?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Wouldn't it make more sense to pull the PS3, since the 360 software is drastically outselling the PS3s? Obviously if more software is selling on it than a competitor, some people must like it.

And if you saw no ads for CoD4, you must have missed every gaming mag in the months before November, and must not have watched Spike TV, MTV, or VH1 at all. Only game I have saw more adverts for has been GTAIV.

sparkypants

On paper shure, but hes were my idea came into play. While the 360 is pulling more in sales it offers less. This is because Microsoft chooses to share some of its high selling 360 games with the PC or PS3, so whats the point of having it especially with the cost of consoles being as high as they are. I figured it would be nicer on budgets if there were two systems...and the logical one to drop would be the one that offers less. It was then suggested that having 2 systems wouldnt be a good way to drop budgets, 3 consoles keep prices in check...his solution, why not have MS focus on PC and let another 3rd console step in...but thats just one idea.

So on paper, it sells more games, but lets ignore that because you can play some of its games on PC? That is insane.

And easier on budgets? Thats even more reason to get rid of the most expensive console.

Easier on budgets....please. Just say you don't want to spend money on three consoles so we can tell you that you don't need to, you can buy the one(s) that appeal to you, and we can all let this absurd thread die.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

because the 360 has more high rated exclusives than the ps3 or the wii.

CaseyWegner

But those high rated exclusives on the 360 are even higher on PC. ;)

then they're not exclusive.

Exactly.

[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Wouldn't it make more sense to pull the PS3, since the 360 software is drastically outselling the PS3s? Obviously if more software is selling on it than a competitor, some people must like it.

And if you saw no ads for CoD4, you must have missed every gaming mag in the months before November, and must not have watched Spike TV, MTV, or VH1 at all. Only game I have saw more adverts for has been GTAIV.

CaseyWegner

On paper shure, but hes were my idea came into play. While the 360 is pulling more in sales it offers less. This is because Microsoft chooses to share some of its high selling 360 games with the PC or PS3, so whats the point of having it especially with the cost of consoles being as high as they are. I figured it would be nicer on budgets if there were two systems...and the logical one to drop would be the one that offers less. It was then suggested that having 2 systems wouldnt be a good way to drop budgets, 3 consoles keep prices in check...his solution, why not have MS focus on PC and let another 3rd console step in...but thats just one idea.

because the 360 has more high rated exclusives than the ps3 or the wii.

but those ratings are a matter of opinion...stop speaking in circles because your looking silly. Try to understand that if someone gives a game a rating he is giving his opinion on the game, because I could easily say that the PS3 has better games BUT that is only MY opinion and not fact. This is the reason that a rating system fails because it is opinion, when you try to prove a point you use fact NOT OPINION. If I have to repeat this one more time I will just leave because its like talking to a brick wall!

but those ratings are a matter of opinion..

sparkypants

So is the matter of needing three consoles. If there was not room in the market or demand for three consoles there would not be three consoles. However, the market seems to be doing just fine with the three systems. Capitalism is working.

[QUOTE="sparkypants"]

but those ratings are a matter of opinion..

SpruceCaboose

So is the matter of needing three consoles. If there was not room in the market or demand for three consoles there would not be three consoles. However, the market seems to be doing just fine with the three systems. Capitalism is working.

The market may be doing fine but I'm not. I can't afford all three consoles but each offers games I want. :cry:

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

but those ratings are a matter of opinion..

chazasul

So is the matter of needing three consoles. If there was not room in the market or demand for three consoles there would not be three consoles. However, the market seems to be doing just fine with the three systems. Capitalism is working.

The market may be doing fine but I'm not. I can't afford all three consoles but each offers games I want. :cry:

Better sell a kidney and some blood.

[QUOTE="chazasul"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

but those ratings are a matter of opinion..

SpruceCaboose

So is the matter of needing three consoles. If there was not room in the market or demand for three consoles there would not be three consoles. However, the market seems to be doing just fine with the three systems. Capitalism is working.

The market may be doing fine but I'm not. I can't afford all three consoles but each offers games I want. :cry:

Better sell a kidney and some blood.

...who wants a kiddney then?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="chazasul"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

but those ratings are a matter of opinion..

sparkypants

So is the matter of needing three consoles. If there was not room in the market or demand for three consoles there would not be three consoles. However, the market seems to be doing just fine with the three systems. Capitalism is working.

The market may be doing fine but I'm not. I can't afford all three consoles but each offers games I want. :cry:

Better sell a kidney and some blood.

...who wants a kiddney then?

I've got two.

I suggest looking for online sales and resale shops if you are really looking for good deals. Classifieds in the paper can also net you one cheap. Just make sure to test it out and everything first if you can.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

because the 360 has more high rated exclusives than the ps3 or the wii.

dream431ca

But those high rated exclusives on the 360 are even higher on PC. ;)

then they're not exclusive.

Exactly.

then what are you talking about?

but those ratings are a matter of opinion...stop speaking in circles because your looking silly. Try to understand that if someone gives a game a rating he is giving his opinion on the game, because I could easily say that the PS3 has better games BUT that is only MY opinion and not fact. This is the reason that a rating system fails because it is opinion, when you try to prove a point you use fact NOT OPINION. If I have to repeat this one more time I will just leave because its like talking to a brick wall!

sparkypants

i don't know what to tell you, dude. we need a standard and reviews are the least of the evils.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

because the 360 has more high rated exclusives than the ps3 or the wii.

CaseyWegner

But those high rated exclusives on the 360 are even higher on PC. ;)

then they're not exclusive.

Exactly.

then what are you talking about?

I think he's basically trying to say there are no decent purely exclusive Xbox 360 games. O_____O

He think he's basically trying to say there are no decent purely exclusive Xbox 360 games. O_____O

chazasul

that's kind of a silly thing to say.

So on paper, it sells more games, but lets ignore that because you can play some of its games on PC? That is insane.

And easier on budgets? Thats even more reason to get rid of the most expensive console.

Easier on budgets....please. Just say you don't want to spend money on three consoles so we can tell you that you don't need to, you can buy the one(s) that appeal to you, and we can all let this absurd thread die.

SpruceCaboose

thats the premis of the thread...and as a hardcore gamer its hard to not buy into my hoby, but I had made the realization that most of the highly selling and highly acknowleged titles for the 360 have been found on other systems so what is the need, why not put money in gamers pockets and drop it? That was my inital though then someone pointed out that 2 consoles would only raise the cost of them and suggested 3 would keep it in check...he added that a nice IDEA would be to have MS to move over to just PC and another company could make a 3rd console. This is a NICE IDEA but realisticly you and I both know it will never happen because companies are about money not the people who buy them. I just made this thread because honesty I was bored as hell and thought this would keep me busy...plus I had fun putting casey in his place :P

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

So on paper, it sells more games, but lets ignore that because you can play some of its games on PC? That is insane.

And easier on budgets? Thats even more reason to get rid of the most expensive console.

Easier on budgets....please. Just say you don't want to spend money on three consoles so we can tell you that you don't need to, you can buy the one(s) that appeal to you, and we can all let this absurd thread die.

sparkypants

thats the premis of the thread...and as a hardcore gamer its hard to not buy into my hoby, but I had made the realization that most of the highly selling and highly acknowleged titles for the 360 have been found on other systems so what is the need, why not put money in gamers pockets and drop it? That was my inital though then someone pointed out that 2 consoles would only raise the cost of them and suggested 3 would keep it in check...he added that a nice IDEA would be to have MS to move over to just PC and another company could make a 3rd console. This is a NICE IDEA but realisticly you and I both know it will never happen because companies are about money not the people who buy them. I just made this thread because honesty I was bored as hell and thought this would keep me busy...plus I had fun putting casey in his place :P

i'm sorry. what did you just say there?

[QUOTE="chazasul"]

I think he's basically trying to say there are no decent purely exclusive Xbox 360 games. O_____O

CaseyWegner

that's kind of a silly thing to say.

Well that's what it seems like he's getting at. I don't agree though.

then what are you talking about?

CaseyWegner

even I dont know with this one...

[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

So on paper, it sells more games, but lets ignore that because you can play some of its games on PC? That is insane.

And easier on budgets? Thats even more reason to get rid of the most expensive console.

Easier on budgets....please. Just say you don't want to spend money on three consoles so we can tell you that you don't need to, you can buy the one(s) that appeal to you, and we can all let this absurd thread die.

CaseyWegner

thats the premis of the thread...and as a hardcore gamer its hard to not buy into my hoby, but I had made the realization that most of the highly selling and highly acknowledged titles for the 360 have been found on other systems so what is the need, why not put money in gamers pockets and drop it? That was my inital though then someone pointed out that 2 consoles would only raise the cost of them and suggested 3 would keep it in check...he added that a nice IDEA would be to have MS to move over to just PC and another company could make a 3rd console. This is a NICE IDEA but realisticly you and I both know it will never happen because companies are about money not the people who buy them. I just made this thread because honesty I was bored as hell and thought this would keep me busy...plus I had fun putting casey in his place :P

i'm sorry. what did you just say there?

sorry Im a terrible speller, and I fogot to spell check...but I fixed it. I should have just said popular :lol:

There isn't a necessity for 100's of different cars to drive, or mobile phones to buy. What's the point? That's the capitalist nature of this world which provides an open market for opportunists and entrepreneurs.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

So on paper, it sells more games, but lets ignore that because you can play some of its games on PC? That is insane.

And easier on budgets? Thats even more reason to get rid of the most expensive console.

Easier on budgets....please. Just say you don't want to spend money on three consoles so we can tell you that you don't need to, you can buy the one(s) that appeal to you, and we can all let this absurd thread die.

sparkypants

thats the premis of the thread...and as a hardcore gamer its hard to not buy into my hoby, but I had made the realization that most of the highly selling and highly acknowledged titles for the 360 have been found on other systems so what is the need, why not put money in gamers pockets and drop it? That was my inital though then someone pointed out that 2 consoles would only raise the cost of them and suggested 3 would keep it in check...he added that a nice IDEA would be to have MS to move over to just PC and another company could make a 3rd console. This is a NICE IDEA but realisticly you and I both know it will never happen because companies are about money not the people who buy them. I just made this thread because honesty I was bored as hell and thought this would keep me busy...plus I had fun putting casey in his place :P

i'm sorry. what did you just say there?

sorry Im a terrible speller, and I fogot to spell check...but I fixed it. I should have just said popular :lol:

then what does shovelware have to do with what you're talking about?

[QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]Yes there is. I like three. Sure it is expensive but still. I like my PS3 in way for hardware, movies and MSG4 than the 360 and Wii. I love my Wii for parties. I love my 360 for Online. I like 3 consolessparkypants

yeah but why pay for the online? when most of the games 360 has to offer end up on the PC and those same games offer online, wouldnt you rather use the free online seviers the PC offers as opposed to paying a fee for live?

Competition makes everyone work harder. Nintendo isn't exactly busting its butt to make the Wii a success, are they? On the other hand, the PS3 and 360 are both trying furiously to outdo one another, which means we win. They try harder, which means they'll do anything; cut prices, release great games, etc. They'll do anything to be better than the next guy to make people buy their console. Let's say the PS3 didn't exist. Microsoft wouldn't be working nearly as hard as they are now.TheEndBoss

it doesn't matter if they're there by default. they exist...they count. sequels don't take anything away from them.

CaseyWegner

halo 3 is exclusive until announced otherwise.

CaseyWegner

That sounds more logical to me considering halo 2 and 1 came to PC.:?

gamespot is what matters here

CaseyWegner

Is it stated in the TOS or something?I dont think so.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

gamespot is what matters here

Spybot_9

Is it stated in the TOS or something?I dont think so.

Where are you typing in? We're not in IGN, Game Trailers, or 1up. You don't have to agree with GS reviews but as far as SW goes GS reviews matter because this is GS.

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

Lol wut?

Doesn't the 360 not only have more users than the PS3 but also more exclusives, thereby justifying its existence?

sparkypants

yeah but most of its said exclusives usally end up on the PC...I though I made that point relevant

Yeah, but for most of us that's irrelevant.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

gamespot is what matters here

Spybot_9

Is it stated in the TOS or something?I dont think so.

we had a vote regarding it a long time ago.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it doesn't matter if they're there by default. they exist...they count. sequels don't take anything away from them.

Spybot_9

halo 3 is exclusive until announced otherwise.

CaseyWegner

That sounds more logical to me considering halo 2 and 1 came to PC.:?

and the different story makes it a different game. give it up, dude. :?

then we may as well never consider any game to be exclusive because there always a chance, even a miniscule one, that a game might get ported. ya never know.