This is just sad... (Alan Wake related)

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

instead of buying a new video card every year skip one year and buy a 360. then you wont have to hate :P

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

arto1223

The game is amazing already.. not every game has to be open ended sandbox

That's not the Alan Wake I recently played but that's the Alan Wake I hyped back then. Sad Face.

That was when Alan Wake was intended to be a sandbox, which was over 4 years ago. Its still a superb game and contrary to what many say it's not as linear as everyone thinks.

Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!SpruceCaboose

Again, graphics are only a minor problem (the game looks pretty good on the 360, not the best, but pretty good). It is the idea of a psychological thriller set in an open world could have been truely great. Also the physics that where available could have been a very amazing addition.

Dude, I still play games lie Planescape: Tourment, System Shock 2, and others because they have amazing gameplay, story/plot, and other qualities yet they have horrible graphics (even though I think P:T still looks great).

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!arto1223

Again, graphics are only a minor problem (the game looks pretty good on the 360, not the best, but pretty good). It is the idea of a psychological thriller set in an open world could have been truely great. Also the physics that where available could have been a very amazing addition.

Dude, I still play games lie Planescape: Tourment, System Shock 2, and others because they have amazing gameplay, story/plot, and other qualities yet they have horrible graphics (even though I think P:T still looks great).

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!arto1223

Again, graphics are only a minor problem (the game looks pretty good on the 360, not the best, but pretty good). It is the idea of a psychological thriller set in an open world could have been truely great. Also the physics that where available could have been a very amazing addition.

Dude, I still play games lie Planescape: Tourment, System Shock 2, and others because they have amazing gameplay, story/plot, and other qualities yet they have horrible graphics (even though I think P:T still looks great).

instead of buying a new video card every year skip one year and buy a 360. then you wont have to hate :P

monson21502

I sold my 360 two and a half years ago because I got all the games on the PC and the exclusives were horrible in comparison to the PS3 and PC exclusives. Besides, I would gladly take my high end GPU, high end CPU, lots of RAM, and SSD over a crappy console with a watered down game any day.

[QUOTE="monson21502"]

instead of buying a new video card every year skip one year and buy a 360. then you wont have to hate :P

arto1223

I sold my 360 two and a half years ago because I got all the games on the PC and the exclusives were horrible in comparison to the PS3 and PC exclusives. Besides, I would gladly take my high end GPU, high end CPU, lots of RAM, and SSD over a crappy console with a watered down game any day.

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

arto1223

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!SpruceCaboose

Again, graphics are only a minor problem (the game looks pretty good on the 360, not the best, but pretty good). It is the idea of a psychological thriller set in an open world could have been truely great. Also the physics that where available could have been a very amazing addition.

Dude, I still play games lie Planescape: Tourment, System Shock 2, and others because they have amazing gameplay, story/plot, and other qualities yet they have horrible graphics (even though I think P:T still looks great).

I highly doubt it was their choice... It was only when Microsoft Game Studios picked it up that it when on 360 and then became a 360 exclusive. They muscled them to do so.

Just watch this, it is an evolution of the trailers since 2005. Notice when MGS picks it up and the systems it will be on.

I highly doubt it was their choice... It was only when Microsoft Game Studios picked it up that it when on 360 and then became a 360 exclusive. They muscled them to do so.

Just watch this, it is an evolution of the trailers since 2005. Notice when MGS picks it up and the systems it will be on.

arto1223

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!Go1D

Again, graphics are only a minor problem (the game looks pretty good on the 360, not the best, but pretty good). It is the idea of a psychological thriller set in an open world could have been truely great. Also the physics that where available could have been a very amazing addition.

Dude, I still play games lie Planescape: Tourment, System Shock 2, and others because they have amazing gameplay, story/plot, and other qualities yet they have horrible graphics (even though I think P:T still looks great).

Actually, check this out. It gives it a widescreen look, but I don't think it gives it 1080 support.

I hope this helps you. This is my favorite game ever, so I hope you can try it out and love it as much as I do.

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[QUOTE="arto1223"]

Again, graphics are only a minor problem (the game looks pretty good on the 360, not the best, but pretty good). It is the idea of a psychological thriller set in an open world could have been truely great. Also the physics that where available could have been a very amazing addition.

Dude, I still play games lie Planescape: Tourment, System Shock 2, and others because they have amazing gameplay, story/plot, and other qualities yet they have horrible graphics (even though I think P:T still looks great).

arto1223

Actually, check this out. It gives it a widescreen look, but I don't think it gives it 1080 support.

I hope this helps you. This is my favorite game ever, so I hope you can try it out and love it as much as I do.

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

I highly doubt it was their choice... It was only when Microsoft Game Studios picked it up that it when on 360 and then became a 360 exclusive. They muscled them to do so.

Just watch this, it is an evolution of the trailers since 2005. Notice when MGS picks it up and the systems it will be on.

SpruceCaboose

Really dude? You honestly think that a developer would turn down something with pockets as deep as Microsoft? If you do the that is just sad.

Like I said, I hope that the original concept/idea for the game is still on the backburner and is set for PC gamers to play some day. I'll give it a year, maybe a little more. If nothing happens, then I will play the watered down version on a friends XBox... Shame.

WOW I just saw the PC version of the game, if they worked on this for 5 years being a PC exclusive this would be GOTY materialKevinButlerVP

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="arto1223"]

I highly doubt it was their choice... It was only when Microsoft Game Studios picked it up that it when on 360 and then became a 360 exclusive. They muscled them to do so.

Just watch this, it is an evolution of the trailers since 2005. Notice when MGS picks it up and the systems it will be on.

arto1223

Really dude? You honestly think that a developer would turn down something with pockets as deep as Microsoft? If you do the that is just sad.

Like I said, I hope that the original concept/idea for the game is still on the backburner and is set for PC gamers to play some day. I'll give it a year, maybe a little more. If nothing happens, then I will play the watered down version on a friends XBox... Shame.

Dude its still is a great game. Very good game but short and not worth buying (just a rent).silversix_

That's my point. It could have been a really great game that would have been much more than "just a rent". Look at a game like S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:SoC. It is an open world shooter with some slight RPG elements, and it has the greatest (obviously my opinion, but not a rare one) atmosphere in any game. It's graphics (when vanilla) are kind of poor, but it is just so deep and involving of a shooter.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!SpruceCaboose

Again, graphics are only a minor problem (the game looks pretty good on the 360, not the best, but pretty good). It is the idea of a psychological thriller set in an open world could have been truely great. Also the physics that where available could have been a very amazing addition.

Dude, I still play games lie Planescape: Tourment, System Shock 2, and others because they have amazing gameplay, story/plot, and other qualities yet they have horrible graphics (even though I think P:T still looks great).

Really dude? You honestly think that a developer would turn down something with pockets as deep as Microsoft? If you do the that is just sad.

Like I said, I hope that the original concept/idea for the game is still on the backburner and is set for PC gamers to play some day. I'll give it a year, maybe a little more. If nothing happens, then I will play the watered down version on a friends XBox... Shame.

arto1223

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]WOW I just saw the PC version of the game, if they worked on this for 5 years being a PC exclusive this would be GOTY materialwindsquid9000

And that's the sad part. Far Cry 2, Crysis 2, Fallout 3, FEAR 2, Dues Ex: IW, Call of Duty series, Elder Scrolls... the list goes on. Most still great titles, but could have been so much more.

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]WOW I just saw the PC version of the game, if they worked on this for 5 years being a PC exclusive this would be GOTY materialarto1223

And that's the sad part. Far Cry 2, Crysis 2, Fallout 3, FEAR 2, Dues Ex: IW, Call of Duty series, Elder Scrolls... the list goes on. Most still great titles, but could have been so much more.

I'm pretty sure they made the game MS wanted them to make.brennan7777

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]WOW I just saw the PC version of the game, if they worked on this for 5 years being a PC exclusive this would be GOTY materialarto1223

And that's the sad part. Far Cry 2, Crysis 2, Fallout 3, FEAR 2, Dues Ex: IW, Call of Duty series, Elder Scrolls... the list goes on. Most still great titles, but could have been so much more.

So? All games could have been "so much more" on any superior system. You can sit there and argue all day as to how or why so and so game could have been better on PC, but it still won't mean anything. Why? Because it's not on PC and it most likely never will be.

Simple as that.

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] One could say the same for a lot of games.lawlessx

And that's the sad part. Far Cry 2, Crysis 2, Fallout 3, FEAR 2, Dues Ex: IW, Call of Duty series, Elder Scrolls... the list goes on. Most still great titles, but could have been so much more.

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

Really dude? You honestly think that a developer would turn down something with pockets as deep as Microsoft? If you do the that is just sad.

Like I said, I hope that the original concept/idea for the game is still on the backburner and is set for PC gamers to play some day. I'll give it a year, maybe a little more. If nothing happens, then I will play the watered down version on a friends XBox... Shame.

SpruceCaboose

How can you possibly think that in this world? Just look at hollywood and all of the movies based on comics and video games. Most of them have aspects of the source material changed for the movie in order to appeal to a wider audience in order to... make money. Examples, Watchmen, Kick Ass, X-Men, and plenty of others (still a few great films, Kick Ass my favorite of this year). And most of which the original creator/author was involved, yet still a change to their original imagining/idea/concept...

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]WOW I just saw the PC version of the game, if they worked on this for 5 years being a PC exclusive this would be GOTY materialarto1223

And that's the sad part. Far Cry 2, Crysis 2, Fallout 3, FEAR 2, Dues Ex: IW, Call of Duty series, Elder Scrolls... the list goes on. Most still great titles, but could have been so much more.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="arto1223"]

And that's the sad part. Far Cry 2, Crysis 2, Fallout 3, FEAR 2, Dues Ex: IW, Call of Duty series, Elder Scrolls... the list goes on. Most still great titles, but could have been so much more.

windsquid9000

[QUOTE="brennan7777"]I'm pretty sure they made the game MS wanted them to make.SpruceCaboose

Just so everyone knows that area exactly (parking lot and warehouse building) is in the game. But there is fencing preventing you from going anywhere outside it. You go inside and fight a massive group of enemies to a poets of the fall song (if you clicked the radio on)

Leads me to think the game that was created as one whole big environment is still there. They just fenced and walled it off for xbox. Man it would be sweet if they unleashed the real version for the pc.

How can you possibly think that in this world? Just look at hollywood and all of the movies based on comics and video games. Most of them have aspects of the source material changed for the movie in order to appeal to a wider audience in order to... make money. Examples, Watchmen, Kick Ass, X-Men, and plenty of others (still a few great films, Kick Ass my favorite of this year). And most of which the original creator/author was involved, yet still a change to their original imagining/idea/concept...

arto1223

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] you've played crysis 2?lawlessx

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="brennan7777"]I'm pretty sure they made the game MS wanted them to make.brennan7777

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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]There was an article or whatever where Crytek said every now and then they had to cut content from all versions of the game because it couldn't be scaled down to consoles.windsquid9000

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="brennan7777"]I'm pretty sure they made the game MS wanted them to make.brennan7777

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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] One could say the same for a lot of games.SpinoRaptor24

And that's the sad part. Far Cry 2, Crysis 2, Fallout 3, FEAR 2, Dues Ex: IW, Call of Duty series, Elder Scrolls... the list goes on. Most still great titles, but could have been so much more.

So? All games could have been "so much more" on any superior system. You can sit there and argue all day as to how or why so and so game could have been better on PC, but it still won't mean anything. Why? Because it's not on PC and it most likely never will be.

Simple as that.

Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was system wars... Fact is, those game could (and most likely would have) beem better had they been PC exclusives. Myself, being a PC gamer for the most part, have to feel bad that a possible experience was taken away from me.

I know I will get flamed for this, but I really wish that consoles would end and gaming would only exist on the PC. There would still be compitition in hardware (Intel, AMD, nVidia, ATI) and in software (the developers and publishers).

This way, every game would have the most potential and not limited to consoles hardware (not just in GPU, CPU, RAM, HDD, etc, but also the horrible controllers that console gamers are forced to use.

Really dude? You honestly think that a developer would turn down something with pockets as deep as Microsoft? If you do the that is just sad.

Like I said, I hope that the original concept/idea for the game is still on the backburner and is set for PC gamers to play some day. I'll give it a year, maybe a little more. If nothing happens, then I will play the watered down version on a friends XBox... Shame.

Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was system wars... Fact is, those game could (and most likely would have) beem better had they been PC exclusives. Myself, being a PC gamer for the most part, have to feel bad that a possible experience was taken away from me.

I know I will get flamed for this, but I really wish that consoles would end and gaming would only exist on the PC. There would still be compitition in hardware (Intel, AMD, nVidia, ATI) and in software (the developers and publishers).

This way, every game would have the most potential and not limited to consoles hardware (not just in GPU, CPU, RAM, HDD, etc, but also the horrible controllers that console gamers are forced to use.

arto1223

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

And that's the sad part. Far Cry 2, Crysis 2, Fallout 3, FEAR 2, Dues Ex: IW, Call of Duty series, Elder Scrolls... the list goes on. Most still great titles, but could have been so much more.

arto1223

So? All games could have been "so much more" on any superior system. You can sit there and argue all day as to how or why so and so game could have been better on PC, but it still won't mean anything. Why? Because it's not on PC and it most likely never will be.

Simple as that.

Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was system wars... Fact is, those game could (and most likely would have) beem better had they been PC exclusives. Myself, being a PC gamer for the most part, have to feel bad that a possible experience was taken away from me.

I know I will get flamed for this, but I really wish that consoles would end and gaming would only exist on the PC. There would still be compitition in hardware (Intel, AMD, nVidia, ATI) and in software (the developers and publishers).

This way, every game would have the most potential and not limited to consoles hardware (not just in GPU, CPU, RAM, HDD, etc, but also the horrible controllers that console gamers are forced to use.

Well carry on with your wishful thinking. Won't get you anywhere and it all it serves is to create meaningless arguments such as these.

You can lament all you want, but it still won't bring the dead back to life.

I found this

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234693

It doesnt really give the technical reason as to why it was canned for PC, but i found something very peculiar about it see if you can see what i see.