This is just sad... (Alan Wake related)

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!arto1223

Again, graphics are only a minor problem (the game looks pretty good on the 360, not the best, but pretty good). It is the idea of a psychological thriller set in an open world could have been truely great. Also the physics that where available could have been a very amazing addition.

Dude, I still play games lie Planescape: Tourment, System Shock 2, and others because they have amazing gameplay, story/plot, and other qualities yet they have horrible graphics (even though I think P:T still looks great).

I don't think that they scraped the free roam idea because of limitations, I think its because an open world game cannot be scary. What, are you going to be running around and every 5 seconds ghosts are going to jump behind you?

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!ColdP1zza

Again, graphics are only a minor problem (the game looks pretty good on the 360, not the best, but pretty good). It is the idea of a psychological thriller set in an open world could have been truely great. Also the physics that where available could have been a very amazing addition.

Dude, I still play games lie Planescape: Tourment, System Shock 2, and others because they have amazing gameplay, story/plot, and other qualities yet they have horrible graphics (even though I think P:T still looks great).

I don't think that they scraped the free roam idea because of limitations, I think its because an open world game cannot be scary. What, are you going to be running around and every 5 seconds ghosts are going to jump behind you?

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

arto1223

[QUOTE="ColdP1zza"]

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

Again, graphics are only a minor problem (the game looks pretty good on the 360, not the best, but pretty good). It is the idea of a psychological thriller set in an open world could have been truely great. Also the physics that where available could have been a very amazing addition.

Dude, I still play games lie Planescape: Tourment, System Shock 2, and others because they have amazing gameplay, story/plot, and other qualities yet they have horrible graphics (even though I think P:T still looks great).

KittenWishes

I don't think that they scraped the free roam idea because of limitations, I think its because an open world game cannot be scary. What, are you going to be running around and every 5 seconds ghosts are going to jump behind you?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!Hexagon_777

This is a case of microsoft throwing alot of money to keep it exclusive blame them for ruining what could have been much better. But being pc exclusive I doubt last I remember it was suppose to come out on ps3 and xbox also. shadownetsam

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

I now own both AW and RDR. I'm in videogame heaven..

You guys are acting like the game looks awful. Give it up it looks great, and it is great game. Stop hatin'.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!SpruceCaboose

My jaw dropped in a few parts, but what have they been doing all this time?!

WiiMan21

You guys are acting like the game looks awful. Give it up it looks great, and it is great game. Stop hatin'.

xscrapzx

[QUOTE="WiiMan21"]

My jaw dropped in a few parts, but what have they been doing all this time?!

xscrapzx

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!ColdP1zza

Again, graphics are only a minor problem (the game looks pretty good on the 360, not the best, but pretty good). It is the idea of a psychological thriller set in an open world could have been truely great. Also the physics that where available could have been a very amazing addition.

Dude, I still play games lie Planescape: Tourment, System Shock 2, and others because they have amazing gameplay, story/plot, and other qualities yet they have horrible graphics (even though I think P:T still looks great).

I don't think that they scraped the free roam idea because of limitations, I think its because an open world game cannot be scary. What, are you going to be running around and every 5 seconds ghosts are going to jump behind you?

I think more importantly than the horror aspects of the game, was the story and narrative structure. This was in great part a mystery that was being unraveled at a controlled pace. The player is following along trying to uncover what happened during Alan's missing week, as well as discoveries of the expansive history of Bright Falls with key residents, and how that impacts the events which Alan finds himself entangled in. This kind of mystery tale couldn't work in sandbox format as it requires a specific trail of clues to be followed in order to solve the riddle of the unfolding story.

And make no mistake. This is a finely crafted tale of suspense, which Remedy executed with expert precision :)

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

shadownetsam

yeah, when MS gave them the money to even make the game:roll:

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

93soccer

Well, this thread sure did stay alive a lot longer than I thought it would.

This is a great example of not reading my posts, and a great example of console only ignorance.

I mentioned a couple times that I don't want to play the current version available on the 360 and that I am holding out for the original concept of the game to be finished and available on the PC.

The fact that people still think that for a PC to be good it must be upgraded every six months is baffling to me. I have so many friends that are using hardware from 4 years ago and still playing modern games perfectly fine. And once they do upgrade, they spend only around $150.

I do like how my post did get turned into talking all about graphics... oh well...

Well, this thread sure did stay alive a lot longer than I thought it would.

This is a great example of not reading my posts, and a great example of console only ignorance.

I mentioned a couple times that I don't want to play the current version available on the 360 and that I am holding out for the original concept of the game to be finished and available on the PC.

The fact that people still think that for a PC to be good it must be upgraded every six months is baffling to me. I have so many friends that are using hardware from 4 years ago and still playing modern games perfectly fine. And once they do upgrade, they spend only around $150.

I do like how my post did get turned into talking all about graphics... oh well...

arto1223

I don't understand it. Why do you think that the switch from PC to 360 exclusive had anything to do with the removal of the open world? You certainly aren't going by what Remedy has explicitly said on the subject. You certainly aren't going by what has been proven to be possible on the 360. What are you going by, a hunch?

Remedy has stated in no uncertain terms that they discovered that having an open world conflicted with their ability to create a suspenseful and exciting thriller. This leads me to believe that if a PC port is developed (which wouldn't surprise me), it will not be open world. I've stated as such earlier in the thread, and have cited examples and quoted the developer.

Why do you think that Remedy is lying? Why do you think that their reasoning is flawed?

I mentioned a couple times that I don't want to play the current version available on the 360 and that I am holding out for the original concept of the game to be finished and available on the PCarto1223

[QUOTE="93soccer"][QUOTE="arto1223"]

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

arto1223

Well, this thread sure did stay alive a lot longer than I thought it would.

This is a great example of not reading my posts, and a great example of console only ignorance.

I mentioned a couple times that I don't want to play the current version available on the 360 and that I am holding out for the original concept of the game to be finished and available on the PC.

The fact that people still think that for a PC to be good it must be upgraded every six months is baffling to me. I have so many friends that are using hardware from 4 years ago and still playing modern games perfectly fine. And once they do upgrade, they spend only around $150.

I do like how my post did get turned into talking all about graphics... oh well...

That is not going to happen, so you are wasting your time.

You know what's really sad, that developers waste their time with the weak consoles and their limitation. Could you imagine Uncharted or Killzone 2 with the power of the PC rather than the weak PS3 and its 512MB memory pool. It could actually be open-ended with real AA and not so much blur to hide jaggies. It's so sad.......themyth01

You know what's really sad, that developers waste their time with the weak consoles and their limitation. Could you imagine Uncharted or Killzone 2 with the power of the PC rather than the weak PS3 and its 512MB memory pool. It could actually be open-ended with real AA and not so much blur to hide jaggies. It's so sad.......themyth01

instead of buying a new video card every year skip one year and buy a 360. then you wont have to hate :P

monson21502

agreed the game is amazing any1 says other wise either did not play it or doesnt have the means to play it.