This is just sad... (Alan Wake related)

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Snugenz, I totally beat you in alan wake.
PWNT :P

Snugenz

haha, I havnt been online on my 360 for a little while *runs away to get moar pintz*

Oh and yeah, i'm alot more "interested" in seeing how Utilizer did with Alan Wake (or any other 360 game for that matter). :P

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Snugenz, I totally beat you in alan wake.
PWNT :P

Animal-Mother

haha, I havnt been online on my 360 for a little while *runs away to get moar pintz*

Oh and yeah, i'm alot more "interested" in seeing how Utilizer did with Alan Wake (or any other 360 game for that matter). :P

One of my favourites this gen easily, just started a new playthrough on Nightmare with the dev commentary on (alot of good stuff in it, but can be very distracting lol) i'd probably be better off doing hard with the commentary though as i've gotten my ass kicked a few times while trying to listen/watch it. :P

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

haha, I havnt been online on my 360 for a little while *runs away to get moar pintz*

Oh and yeah, i'm alot more "interested" in seeing how Utilizer did with Alan Wake (or any other 360 game for that matter). :P

Snugenz

One of my favourites this gen easily, just started a new playthrough on Nightmare with the dev commentary on (alot of good stuff in it, but can be very distracting lol) i'd probably be better off doing hard with the commentary though as i've gotten my ass kicked a few times while trying to listen/watch it. :P

TC, if you do come back to the thread today, I want you to know I respect your position, because you at least have the courage to say it and defend it. People who post their borderline trolling comments and then scamper away do nothing in the long run for SW or for gaming, so seriously, at least thank you for having a dialog with me about the issues.

[QUOTE="N00bTuber"]

[QUOTE="da_illest101"]

that's the 360 for you, holding back everything this gen

sonicmj1

Too bad they had to develop for a gimped console.

Locutus_Picard

No. Stop. Please.

Seriously, what are you doing? You're just going to drop one BS line and abandon the thread? It's as if you read the topic title, raced straight to the "New Post" button, got your 360 bash in, and left satisfied with your job well done. Are you here for a discussion, or are you here for console warrior points?

Because really, I don't see how anyone can look at what Remedy said about why they got rid of the open world, consider what consoles have accomplished graphically with open worlds this generation, and then turn around and say that it was technically impossible for Remedy to do what they were planning to do on the 360. It doesn't make any sense.

I don't want to be all "internet srs bsns" but there's a reason I've generally stopped coming here, and it's because it feels so much like nobody wants to actually talk to each other. This kind of hit and run posting contributes nothing. It's pathetic.

If you believe what you're saying, you could at least follow the OP's example and explain it and respond to people.

Post and run huh? Why take the internet so seriously? That being said. It's gimped because it was moved from PC to console, it's gimped even more since 360 was choice of console...kinda obvious if M$ was funding them...but they also could decline the offer and move to Sony...or better yet...develop for PC somehow. Open world/sandbox games require HDD installs, like GTA4 did with PS3(mandatory) and 360 (optional). Not sure about Just Cause 2 or RDR (PS3 does have install). The point is, not all 360's have HDD's. So it's pretty obvious that an sandbox game is going to be hard to do with their idea's on a console with 6,8 GB max. space on a disch and not all 360's having a HDD to begin with. Change it to a corridor horror game; problem solved.Locutus_Picard

Thank you for responding! :)

It's obvious you haven't thought this all the way through. That's why you write sentences that contradict themselves. Open world games do not require HDD installs. From Crackdown to GTA4 to Red Dead Redemption to Just Cause 2 to Burnout Paradise, there are many, many install-free, load-free open world games on the 360. This suggests to me that it isn't technically impossible to create an open world on the 360. This is further evidenced by a post earlier in the thread referencing a developer post on the Remedy forums that suggests that the open world still exists in the final product, albeit in a form that's impossible to access on foot.

The 360 is certainly less powerful than the PC, so in that respect, the game probably would look a little better if it had a PC version. But given what Remedy has said and what exists on the console, there is no evidence that the game's design was fundamentally transformed by it being a 360 exclusive. There are multiple quotes from the developer that all express the same sentiment about their attempt at an open-world thriller.

You get a LOT of pop-ins and missing textures without installs...A LOT.

What another games potential held back due to 360!? Where have heard this before? Oh yeah FF13 :P

You get a LOT of pop-ins and missing textures without installs...A LOT.

Locutus_Picard

[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]

You get a LOT of pop-ins and missing textures without installs...A LOT.

SpruceCaboose

.. Not sure why people wouldn't do the optional install.. There will be obvious benefits to it..

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]

You get a LOT of pop-ins and missing textures without installs...A LOT.

sSubZerOo

.. Not sure why people wouldn't do the optional install.. There will be obvious benefits to it..

[QUOTE="da_illest101"]

that's the 360 for you, holding back everything this gen

N00bTuber

Making an argument based entirely from abstracts and hypotheticals. How many years of research did you lose your life to, to come up with these irrefutable results? :roll::roll:

What another games potential held back due to 360!? Where have heard this before? Oh yeah FF13 :P

Swift_Boss_A

The game is amazing already.. not every game has to be open ended sandbox

kozzy1234

Game is still cool. I mean, there are times where I want to explore a path but its closed off or just an empty area and that is kind of disappointing. My main complaints are the enemies, combat, and animations. And it looks pretty bad during the daytime.

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

What another games potential held back due to 360!? Where have heard this before? Oh yeah FF13 :P

Animal-Mother

I just finished it.

Besides it being a little too easy, some -for no reason- unanswered questions and the parts you're not alone (which kill the tension), the game is truly excellent.

Couldn't care less about the old built.

I'm sure AW is a sweet game.

Release it for the PC and you're guaranteed to get at least 1 sale (yes, from me).

But it would be very nice if it were HD.Deathtransit

It would be on a gaming rig.

I'm sure it's great regardless.

But it would be very nice if it were HD.Deathtransit

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]But it would be very nice if it were HD.Filthybastrd

It would be on a gaming rig.

I'm sure it's great regardless.

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="monson21502"]

instead of buying a new video card every year skip one year and buy a 360. then you wont have to hate :P

SpruceCaboose

I sold my 360 two and a half years ago because I got all the games on the PC and the exclusives were horrible in comparison to the PS3 and PC exclusives. Besides, I would gladly take my high end GPU, high end CPU, lots of RAM, and SSD over a crappy console with a watered down game any day.

Sounds about right you can't ever make some people happy if a 360 shares an exclusive with the PC then all the cows come out and bash how its not a "true exclusive", but when their is a "true exclusive" the Hermits come out and complain about how it ought to be on the PC too or how a PC version would be soooooo superior. Pretty much whatever they do one group will always be there to slam the decision.

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]But it would be very nice if it were HD.IronBass

It only looks bad during the daytime parts. Night parts are really nice. I like staring at the flashlight for a few minutes every time I play.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]

You get a LOT of pop-ins and missing textures without installs...A LOT.

sSubZerOo

.. Not sure why people wouldn't do the optional install.. There will be obvious benefits to it..

Lack of hardrive space.

I'm willing to admit that it upset's me that I can't play this on PC.

Sweet to have but certainly not worth getting a 360 over.

lol, it doesn't look bad at all.Animal-Mother

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

arto1223

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]But it would be very nice if it were HD.IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Deathtransit"]But it would be very nice if it were HD.Deathtransit

Ehhh? It's not like it's 640*480....

Full HD would mean 1080*1080 which very few console games play at. Absolutely no high profile games do in fact.

Go play Gears or Uncharted to see some beautiful HD texture and detail.Deathtransit

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

dommeus

Its not all PC gamers or just PC gamers saying this. Im mainly a pc gamer (with every console aswell), but I still love Alan Wake for what it is.
I think the story and atmosphere would have not been nearly as good in a open ended sandbox type of game. I like big open games to, but sometimes you just need a linear game to get the atmosphere and story right, this is one of those cases.

I find it so sad that Alan Wake had so much potential back when it was a PC exclusive. Back when it was an open world game and just looked so much better. I know graphics don't make the game, but they can really add to the immersion. Just take a look at this video from 2006 (yea, that's FOUR years ago) and make sure you watch the end. That four year old version of the game looks (not just in graphics, but also in the fact that it is truely an open world) so much better than the XBox 360 version that has recently come out.

I hope that this will be like the old Far Cry case again. In which the PC got the good version and the consoles got their own version (which sucked). Maybe, just maybe Remedy can still deliver on the original game that was shown to us all those years ago.

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Go play Gears or Uncharted to see some beautiful HD texture and detail.IronBass

Man talk about some sour grapes....oh it's not on the PC... oh it's not on the PS3 so it sucks. The game is good, and a lot of fun. If you have access to a 360 get this game. Enjoy it for what it is, a very good suspense game.

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"][QUOTE="IronBass"] How do you noticed it's not? I played it on a HDTV and it looks better than a lot of HD games.Filthybastrd

Ehhh? It's not like it's 640*480....

Full HD would mean 1080*1080 which very few console games play at. Absolutely no high profile games do in fact.

lemmings will never hear the end of it. :P

they should have made it an adventure game :(;(;(;(;(;(;(;(:(:(:(:(lloveLamp

My jaw dropped in a few parts, but what have they been doing all this time?!

Yeah, to heck with if the game is any good, lets complain about how much better it could LOOK!!!SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]they should have made it an adventure game :(;(;(;(;(;(;(;(:(:(:(:(Eleckidding