THQ: Buying used games is cheating

[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="timmy00"]People sell games for many reasons. That not going to stop the people selling games they bought. It may help but not stop it.

However I will agree that people just like to point fingers when their games don't sell. They just want to blame something.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] I know, but when they complain a 4 hour Sp with lackluster MP game dosn't sell well they blame pirates, when it sells medicore they blame used game buyers. I'm just curious why they should get money from an game thats alreadyy been bought?lordreaven

However I will agree that people just like to point fingers when their games don't sell. They just want to blame something.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] I know, but when they complain a 4 hour Sp with lackluster MP game dosn't sell well they blame pirates, when it sells medicore they blame used game buyers. I'm just curious why they should get money from an game thats alreadyy been bought?lordreaven

However I will agree that people just like to point fingers when their games don't sell. They just want to blame something.

Wait did we have a mature discussion on System Wars?

Ugh, why are people still defending this ridiculous movement designed to rinse even more money from consumers? If I bought a used car but the dealership told me I no longer had access to the brakes because I'm 'cheating', there'd be uproar. So what makes games companies think they have the right to do this kind of thing? It's absolutely disgusting.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="timmy00"]Let say I go shopping for Metro 2033. I see a new game and a used game. I buy the used game. There 60$ they could have made. Yes someone may buy it eventually but sometime games just don't sell. The used game I bought could have save the publisher some money if I bought it as new.

However I will agree that people just like to point fingers when their games don't sell. They just want to blame something.

Captain__Tripps

wow, you barely hear anything from THQ around here:lol:

they got me to buy a new version of Saints Row 2, so I *hope* I'm cool with them:P

I agree with them. They have every right to limit features in games not bought new. They're losing profit, its only natural for them to take action against it. I don't see it as some Activision-esque evil personally, just business.Maybe it sucks for us, but I would do the same in their position.

Ugh, why are people still defending this ridiculous movement designed to rinse even more money from consumers? If I bought a used car but the dealership told me I no longer had access to the brakes because I'm 'cheating', there'd be uproar. So what makes games companies think they have the right to do this kind of thing? It's absolutely disgusting.

skooks

I agree with him, devs and publisher gets screwed by buying used games which is why I only buy games used if I can't find them new ... which is extremly rare

Pretty much every goods manufacturer on the face of the planet has to deal with the 2nd hand goods market yet publisher think they should get some kind of special treatment in this regard.Marka1700

I agree with him, devs and publisher gets screwed by buying used games which is why I only buy games used if I can't find them new ... which is extremly rare

ArchoNils2

eh, I'm fine with that if it's a certain publisher. but then the developer side leaves you feeling guilty if you really enjoyed the game.

[QUOTE="monson21502"]

everyone should email them this:

NO, making half games for 60 bucks then releasing dlc in the same week is cheating!!!

I got 30 cents for a $60 game. I was very disappointed. Saw the same game on their shelf a few days later going for, like, $30 used. :\

Bladecutter56

[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="timmy00"]Let say I go shopping for Metro 2033. I see a new game and a used game. I buy the used game. There 60$ they could have made. Yes someone may buy it eventually but sometime games just don't sell. The used game I bought could have save the publisher some money if I bought it as new.

However I will agree that people just like to point fingers when their games don't sell. They just want to blame something.

Wait did we have a mature discussion on System Wars?

they feel cheated because they don't get paid for the same game disk twice, cry me a river,loldelta3074

Why is it only the game industry getting mad at used games? You don't see the movie industry attacking Blockbuster or the book industry attacking libraries -__-.

Matbe if they made a game worth $60 I'f agree with them

they feel cheated because they don't get paid for the same game disk twice, cry me a river,loldelta3074

On the other hand, why retails should get paid for the same game twice, and sometimes, even charging a used game as a new one.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="monson21502"]

everyone should email them this:

NO, making half games for 60 bucks then releasing dlc in the same week is cheating!!!

monson21502

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] You make very fair points.lordreaven

Wait did we have a mature discussion on System Wars?

:P

man this thread makes me want to buy a bunch of THQ games, used, and give them out for free.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="timmy00"]Thank you and so do you guys.

Wait did we have a mature discussion on System Wars?

:P

I guess I could agree with the online function if its constantly costing them. But used games are important, it forces the publishers to play fair with their pricing. On steam for example, some are still selling games for £30 that aren't really worth that amount.

They should understand we can't constanly shell out full price.

plus someone already paid them for that copy, they don't wan't it anymore I might, it's called recycling ;).

But THQ have got a nerve to treat used games buyers like pirates.

And to be honest they aren't actually mad at us, it's chain stores like GAME who sell used games for quite a bit and don't share the profits with games companies. Publishers have to work with them and spend on marketing with them.

[QUOTE="Keiji993"]

Lol they mad cuz they aren't making a good profit.

WilliamRLBaker

Making bad games is worse.IronBass

[QUOTE="delta3074"]they feel cheated because they don't get paid for the same game disk twice, cry me a river,lolmadsnakehhh

On the other hand, why retails should get paid for the same game twice, and sometimes, even charging a used game as a new one.

Who buys THQ products lol I know I dont.

Why is it only the game industry getting mad at used games? You don't see the movie industry attacking Blockbuster or the book industry attacking libraries -__-.

nintendoman562

man this thread makes me want to buy a bunch of THQ games, used, and give them out for free.

Phaze-Two

So you're irritated that a publisher is commenting on their loss of profit?

I don't get this thread. Both sides can cry rivers, but the publisher needs to make money. >_>

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

I see their point, and actually, i'm not against the solution of buying the multiplayer feature online if you have a used game, hopefully, will make used games cheaper and it will gave some profits to developers, profits that they actually deserve to beging with.

ActicEdge

I don't understand this concept of entitlement peopel and devs think they have to games. Why exactly is used games not legitimate when virtually used everything else is considered fine?

Because you don't have to patch a used chair, or keep servers running up for a used painting do you?

I wonder if GM feels cheated every time a used car is sold?:lol: Hmmm.

I cant remember the last THQ game I bought new OR used.:?

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

man this thread makes me want to buy a bunch of THQ games, used, and give them out for free.

Sheppard212

So you're irritated that a publisher is commenting on their loss of profit?

I don't get this thread. Both sides can cry rivers, but the publisher needs to make money. >_>

so basically only one side can cry a river.

but i have no reason to cry, i'm getting great prices for used games. i'll laugh if anything

and no i'm not "irritated that a publisher is commenting on their loss of profit" that's their thing. and i'm just letting them know (by voting with my wallet) that I, as the consumer, don't agree with their business model. :) that's how it works.

Yep used game buyers are basically as bad as pirates JK or am I?General_X

I will say that it is 90% of the time

I wonder if GM feels cheated every time a used car is sold?:lol: Hmmm.

coltsfan4ever

probably.

although the amercian taxpayer probably feels even more cheated tbh...

[QUOTE="General_X"]Yep used game buyers are basically as bad as pirates JK or am I?Cruse34

I will say that it is 90% of the time

so only 10% of the time buying a used game is legal? wow. I'm never leaving my house again.

Making bad games is worse.IronBass

QFT. I'll say the same to them I say to the textbook publishers, people buy used because of a lack of value, not because of the price. A lot of textbooks come with a single use code now, and you only get the code if you buy new. So you're looking at 200 + dollars for a textbook that has a very finite useful life and no resale value. Same with a game.

In the case of textbooks I buy used as often as I can because the books are just a rip off. With games I buy new all the time, and I like to resell them when I'm done with them. In the case of textbooks they also make money for used sales.

Them removing features from used games means that the game is less valuable to me. If it's 60 bucks for 2 games, but one has a resale value and one does not, then that game with no resale value will need to have a massive lasting value to make up the difference. THQs games do not, so I guess I don't care if they'rebutthurt by people buying used.

I have so much sympathy. No, really.

used games for sale at a store in the mall next to new games is wrong in my book. People defending it are just dumb, pirating games in my country isnt illegal, I dont do it because the devs get nothing for it... buying used game is the same result in the end, I played a game and didnt pay the devs. This is why publishers ar going to move towards gaming being a service.

Why is it only the game industry getting mad at used games? You don't see the movie industry attacking Blockbuster or the book industry attacking libraries -__-.

nintendoman562

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

I see their point, and actually, i'm not against the solution of buying the multiplayer feature online if you have a used game, hopefully, will make used games cheaper and it will gave some profits to developers, profits that they actually deserve to beging with.

Ryder123

I don't understand this concept of entitlement peopel and devs think they have to games. Why exactly is used games not legitimate when virtually used everything else is considered fine?

Because you don't have to patch a used chair, or keep servers running up for a used painting do you?

Until now I was definitely leaning on the side of the initial argument, but you, kind sir, have just made an extremely valid point to the contrary!

You cheat us when you expect us to pay $60 for a 10-30 hour game.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

I see their point, and actually, i'm not against the solution of buying the multiplayer feature online if you have a used game, hopefully, will make used games cheaper and it will gave some profits to developers, profits that they actually deserve to beging with.

madsnakehhh

I don't understand this concept of entitlement peopel and devs think they have to games. Why exactly is used games not legitimate when virtually used everything else is considered fine?

I never say is not legitimate or something, but as with any, they made the product, so they deserve the profit, as easy as that.

They already got profit from the used game; someone bought it in the first place.

"bad games" are completely subjective. Darn them for trying to make a living, darn them all! They should spent 1 billions of dollars for every game they make!alexside1

because you must spend that much to make a good game...

and it's up to each person to decide if they make bad games. looking at review scores and user scores is an indicator that consumers aren't likin many THQ games.