Time to call Sony out.

I do not agree

360 does not just hold its own against PS3

Mass Effect and Gears IMO is enough to make PS3 lineup for 2007-2008 look totally boring

Imagine if i add Gears 2, Fable 2, Banjo 3 to the mix

Sony HAS to be kidding us, where are the amazing shooters, where are the RPG's and the above normal for this gen games ? They simply lost ALL little credibility they had, nothing seems even great on their system anymore for me, PS3 is the synonym to boredom offcially from now on

FF13 nowhere, Killzone 2 delayed and looks not even on par with Gears 2 etc etc

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

We had a 30 page thread on this the other day, after that Aaron Greenburg guy had his little rant. We're really beating a dead horse here, this is no better than a thread about RROD.

For the record: I do agree with some of what you said though. But I think people should put their energy into directly telling Sony how they should improve (An e-mail perhaps?), instead of making the same bland, boring, over-used thread in System wars over and over again.

MortalDecay

I must have missed that thread. Not everyone is able to read every thread that comes across here.

And I do not believe Sony would listen to any emails. They're too into themselves to listen to such things.

Worth a try though, isn't it? This thread won't really accomplish anything either. I doubt Sony are actually reading this thread, despite the title you gave it.

PS3 = the only next gen hardware. Cell processor and Blu-ray, nuff said.dream431ca

I agree and the thing is it's going to take time for developers to really start using this new technology that's put before them. Once this happens these boards are going to go crazy with people saying that this is still not needed while the developers are praiseing this technology.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

We had a 30 page thread on this the other day, after that Aaron Greenburg guy had his little rant. We're really beating a dead horse here, this is no better than a thread about RROD.

For the record: I do agree with some of what you said though. But I think people should put their energy into directly telling Sony how they should improve (An e-mail perhaps?), instead of making the same bland, boring, over-used thread in System wars over and over again.

MortalDecay

I must have missed that thread. Not everyone is able to read every thread that comes across here.

And I do not believe Sony would listen to any emails. They're too into themselves to listen to such things.

I dont think Microsoft does either. And dont say they listened to the consumer when they extended the RROD warranty. That was a lawsuit waiting to happen.

I admit, Sony got extremely cocky, and they tooted their horn more than most - but the PS3 has offered me nothing but entertainment - which is what I bought it for.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

How do you guys feel about Sony's "revolutionary" console, now that it's been out for over a year, and we've seen what it can do?

I know Sony overhypes their consoles, but this is rediculous. Sony promised a console that would be able to deliver things we've never seen before in a video game. What do we really get? A bloated movie player. The 360 more than holds it's own against the PS3, considering the PS3 came out a year later. What's worse is devs are having to dumb down the resolution, and force players to install half of the game to their HDD to even keep up with the 360. Why are cows not upset about this?

Sony takes out features after the console has been out for 6 months, then adds features later in the game, making people pay $50+ for old technology. I would be highly upset if I were a cow. Sony cannot make up thier mind.

I don't even want to get into all of the vaporware that Sony has been promising.

Where's the revolution? Where's the innovation? I don't want to hear, "Devs haven't tapped into the hidden power yet, just wait!" That didn't work for the PS2, and it won't work here.

MortalDecay

My 360 works, thank you. You're still stuck with a box full of empty pomises. :lol:

So how is MS milking me?

MortalDecay

You didn't seriously just ask that did you?? :lol: Between the ridiculously overpriced proprietary accessories and extra service and online fees Lemmings by far are the most milked bunch this generation.

Everyone has things they could be doing better.
Microsoft? 2 years and still no fix to the RROD... What happened to X360 always having the lead graphically because it's easy to develop for? What happened to "choice" and Blu-ray if HD-DVD lost?
Nintendo? Where is that online they promised? Where is twice the power of Gamecube? Where are the unique innovative games?EmperorSupreme

The RROD could be fixed, and you would still say the problem exists. Why? Because desperate cows don't want the issue to go away. It's you're only ammunition.

[QUOTE="majadamus"]Both lemmings and Cows know that the Wii is the closest thing to revolutionary we're going to get this gen. M$ and Sony have failed at trying to innovate. MortalDecay

I like the Wii. I have nothing bad to say about it, except it doesn't have many games that appeal to me. I eventually want to get one, because my wife loves that kind of stuff.

MS has given a few innovations with the Xbox, however. While Sony has just copied off everyone else.

You need to explain this statment, I need to see if you know what you're talking about because I dont think you do.

I think all three companies have their major faults this generation, some more than others. Microsoft messed up big time with questionable hardware and having the RROD on their hands, however that might not be an issue soon, what with word going around of the new Xbox 360 2.5 coming out, which some more than take care of the issue of RROD and forever put that mess to rest. Nintendo had its mess up by not including some things that should be standard on a console, namely a hard drive and better online, however I forgive them with the online play simply because it hasn't been their focus and they've done so well in other departments. I do believe graphics should have been abit more of a focus but thus far I can't really complain about them since I'm not one to freak out if I see a pixel or a jaggy or something like that.

Sony has had the biggest list of mistakes this generation simply because Sony has a nasty habit of opening their mouth and shouting from the rooftops about the second coming of Christ which can only be found on whatever the next Playstation is. They alone over hyped their console and they alone are failing to keep up with what they promised. It isn't the developers fault for not tapping into the system, its Sony's fault for making such a complicated and unfriendly console for developers. Sony set the price point too high and is still suffering from a bad drought of exclusives. They took things out that should have stayed (mainly rumble feature) and once again Sony wasn't focusing on games, but rather mass market appeal of having hte cheapest BluRay player on the market because they had to have known the PS3 wouldn't stand alone by itself as solely a gaming machine. they talk the talk yet fail to walk the walk and fall back on the "just wait" which seems to be all Sony fans can do this generation. Yes all three companies made mistakes but when you run around sounding the feasting horn before your console is even ready, it just makes your mistakes stand out even more.

well i play quality games on my ps3 and just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean that it doesn't exists. Why do lemming think that "Only America and gamespot matters so the ps3 is destined to fail" or "Well my 360 has been working fine for 2 years so the RROD problem isn't that big of a deal" or "MGS4 will flop because MGS3 flopped but too human (a game that have been pushed back more times than the # of RRODed 360) will receive AAA scores?
ermacness

Since when is games like Lair, HS, Uncharted ... quality games ? Short 7 hour games are not console defining, they are jokes

Try real game like Halo 3, Gears, Mass Effect, Lost odyssey etc on 360 for quality, PS3 is only fillers for 2007-2008

I do not agree

360 does not just hold its own against PS3

Mass Effect and Gears IMO is enough to make PS3 lineup for 2007-2008 look totally boring

Imagine if i add Gears 2, Fable 2, Banjo 3 to the mix

Sony HAS to be kidding us, where are the amazing shooters, where are the RPG's and the above normal for this gen games ? They simply lost ALL little credibility they had, nothing seems even great on their system anymore for me, PS3 is the synonym to boredom offcially from now on

FF13 nowhere, Killzone 2 delayed and looks not even on par with Gears 2 etc etc

kostmpekir

Warhawk and Uncharted IMO is enough to make the entire X360 lineup for 2007-2008 look totally boring

Imagine if I add Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Resistance 2 or Motorstorm 2 to the mix.

Microsoft has to be kidding us, where are the amazing JRPGs or stealth games? They've simply lost all the minute credibility they have. Xbox 360 is the synonym for overhyped macho games from now on.

Where's Alan Wake? And Too Human has been in development for so long...

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

So how is MS milking me?

EmperorSupreme

You didn't seriously just ask that did you?? :lol: Between the ridiculously overpriced proprietary accessories and extra service and online fees Lemmings by far are the most milked bunch this generation.

The overpriced accessories that I didn't buy? Again, how is that miking when I chose not to buy them? I am being milked just by their existance? I know cows suck at logic, but that doesn't make any sense.

Paying for Live is different, because Live is better than PSN by leaps and bounds.

How do you guys feel about Sony's "revolutionary" console, now that it's been out for over a year, and we've seen what it can do?

I know Sony overhypes their consoles, but this is rediculous. Sony promised a console that would be able to deliver things we've never seen before in a video game. What do we really get? A bloated movie player. The 360 more than holds it's own against the PS3, considering the PS3 came out a year later. What's worse is devs are having to dumb down the resolution, and force players to install half of the game to their HDD to even keep up with the 360. Why are cows not upset about this?

Sony takes out features after the console has been out for 6 months, then adds features later in the game, making people pay $50+ for old technology. I would be highly upset if I were a cow. Sony cannot make up thier mind.

I don't even want to get into all of the vaporware that Sony has been promising.

Where's the revolution? Where's the innovation? I don't want to hear, "Devs haven't tapped into the hidden power yet, just wait!" That didn't work for the PS2, and it won't work here.

MortalDecay

That phrase made me LOL.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] Everyone has things they could be doing better.
Microsoft? 2 years and still no fix to the RROD... What happened to X360 always having the lead graphically because it's easy to develop for? What happened to "choice" and Blu-ray if HD-DVD lost?
Nintendo? Where is that online they promised? Where is twice the power of Gamecube? Where are the unique innovative games?MortalDecay

The RROD could be fixed, and you would still say the problem exists. Why? Because desperate cows don't want the issue to go away. It's you're only ammunition.

It still exists because it hasn't been fixed. Plenty of people are having the issue still even with brand new machines. Go read any user review site for yourself. Just goto Amazon.com and read the reviews. Why would you believe it is fixed. Not a single reputable website has said fixed, nor has Microsoft. The only ones saying fixed are lemmings. The same ones who said it was fixed with Xclamps, the bigger heatsink, then elite fixed it, then the HDMI mobo, then halo edition, now they are saying Falcon.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] Everyone has things they could be doing better.
Microsoft? 2 years and still no fix to the RROD... What happened to X360 always having the lead graphically because it's easy to develop for? What happened to "choice" and Blu-ray if HD-DVD lost?
Nintendo? Where is that online they promised? Where is twice the power of Gamecube? Where are the unique innovative games?MortalDecay

The RROD could be fixed, and you would still say the problem exists. Why? Because desperate cows don't want the issue to go away. It's you're only ammunition.

The irony of the statement you just made is you said, "The RROD could be fixed..." - but it's not. So it's still valid isnt it? Yes.

As long as it's around, it's always valid for argument.

Not to mention the ridiculous hidden/extra costs of owning a 360... and the repairs, etc. I own one. I know. :D

PS3 = the only next gen hardware. Cell processor and Blu-ray, nuff said.dream431ca

Correct. PS3 contains nextgen hardware. Xbox360 plays next gen games.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="thrones"]Same way HDMI isn't needed? :|MortalDecay

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]PS3 = the only next gen hardware. Cell processor and Blu-ray, nuff said.ermacness

The end result is is very average. And since BluRay is the cause of most of the PS3's problems, I'd say BR is far from next gen.

Which made it a lot more expensive. At least we got the choice.

My point is, you DON'T have to buy the accessories. If you're not going to use them, why have them? Why drive the price of the console up, when some people might not use them?

So how is MS milking me?

So why diss the PS3 for not coming with a HDMI cable that most people wont use? Regardless of what Sony said.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

So how is MS milking me?

MortalDecay

You didn't seriously just ask that did you?? :lol: Between the ridiculously overpriced proprietary accessories and extra service and online fees Lemmings by far are the most milked bunch this generation.

The overpriced accessories that I didn't buy? Again, how is that miking when I chose not to buy them? I am being milked just by their existance? I know cows suck at logic, but that doesn't make any sense.

Paying for Live is different, because Live is better than PSN by leaps and bounds.

That doesnt justify a $50 a year fee. You're paying for P2P gaming... and extra features.

When the in-game XMB comes, the services will be much more equal... only one will be free.

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="majadamus"]Both lemmings and Cows know that the Wii is the closest thing to revolutionary we're going to get this gen. M$ and Sony have failed at trying to innovate. CubanBlunt

I like the Wii. I have nothing bad to say about it, except it doesn't have many games that appeal to me. I eventually want to get one, because my wife loves that kind of stuff.

MS has given a few innovations with the Xbox, however. While Sony has just copied off everyone else.

You need to explain this statment, I need to see if you know what you're talking about because I dont think you do.

What has Sony given us that no other console has?

MS gave us Achievements. Which must be a good idea, because Sony is copying that. Custom soundtracks, which is a genius idea.