Time to call Sony out.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]PS3 = the only next gen hardware. Cell processor and Blu-ray, nuff said.wetspot96

The end result is is very average. And since BluRay is the cause of most of the PS3's problems, I'd say BR is far from next gen.

does it have an english teacher installed...because u need one, lol.

go the old "teh grammar" route when your logic have been defeated eh?

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] Everyone has things they could be doing better.
Microsoft? 2 years and still no fix to the RROD... What happened to X360 always having the lead graphically because it's easy to develop for? What happened to "choice" and Blu-ray if HD-DVD lost?
Nintendo? Where is that online they promised? Where is twice the power of Gamecube? Where are the unique innovative games?MortalDecay

The RROD could be fixed, and you would still say the problem exists. Why? Because desperate cows don't want the issue to go away. It's you're only ammunition.

Have fun trying to play sales, buddy.

It's a pretty good movie player.

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="majadamus"]Both lemmings and Cows know that the Wii is the closest thing to revolutionary we're going to get this gen. M$ and Sony have failed at trying to innovate. Yodas_Boy

/sarcasm

That's the problem with the 360 and PS3, they're little more than processor upgrades; the Wii actually does something different and innovative.

My PS3 delivers, I love it. I have 12 games on it, a bunch of Blu-Ray movies, music, movie trailers, downloadable games, browse the internet on it and its shiney :shock:

What am I looking forward to/playing this year?

Tekken 6

Resistance 2

Little Big planet

White Knight Story

Motorstorm 2

Metal Gear Solid 4

and a bunch of amazing multiplats. So yes, I am happy.

How do you guys feel about Sony's "revolutionary" console, now that it's been out for over a year, and we've seen what it can do?

I know Sony overhypes their consoles, but this is rediculous. Sony promised a console that would be able to deliver things we've never seen before in a video game. What do we really get? A bloated movie player. The 360 more than holds it's own against the PS3, considering the PS3 came out a year later. What's worse is devs are having to dumb down the resolution, and force players to install half of the game to their HDD to even keep up with the 360. Why are cows not upset about this?

Sony takes out features after the console has been out for 6 months, then adds features later in the game, making people pay $50+ for old technology. I would be highly upset if I were a cow. Sony cannot make up thier mind.

I don't even want to get into all of the vaporware that Sony has been promising.

Where's the revolution? Where's the innovation? I don't want to hear, "Devs haven't tapped into the hidden power yet, just wait!" That didn't work for the PS2, and it won't work here.

MortalDecay

I agree, there is nothing on the ps3 that would make me want one NOTHING.Immortal_Evil

so says the 2 mill sales on resistance, the 1 mill sales of motorstorm(by itself) and then the extra 2 mill bundled, the 1 mill sales of folklore, the 1 mill sales of uncharted, and the 1 mill+ sales of GT5p. Go figure
ermacness

I get pissed when people dismiss sales because it's a bundle. Yes, it's bundled, but there's always the option of going for it cheaper without the game... it means they're actually looking foward to the game WITH the bundle if they're going for the bundle.

seriously this gen is exactly the same as DS vs PSP

Wii changes things up, and about 40% of the games each year are worth picking up but sales-wise kicks the crap out of everything.

with ps3 and 360 (well more so ps3) everytime some game with a big name like god of war or MGS everyone goes nuts over it goes OMG THE PS3 IS LIEK SO AMAZZING and two weeks later the wii is still 12million units ahead and is able to produce with crappy hardware...

PS3 = the only next gen hardware. Cell processor and Blu-ray, nuff said.dream431ca

Agreed, and I own a 360 too.....

How do you guys feel about Sony's "revolutionary" console, now that it's been out for over a year, and we've seen what it can do?

I know Sony overhypes their consoles, but this is rediculous. Sony promised a console that would be able to deliver things we've never seen before in a video game. What do we really get? A bloated movie player. The 360 more than holds it's own against the PS3, considering the PS3 came out a year later. What's worse is devs are having to dumb down the resolution, and force players to install half of the game to their HDD to even keep up with the 360. Why are cows not upset about this?

Sony takes out features after the console has been out for 6 months, then adds features later in the game, making people pay $50+ for old technology. I would be highly upset if I were a cow. Sony cannot make up thier mind.

I don't even want to get into all of the vaporware that Sony has been promising.

Where's the revolution? Where's the innovation? I don't want to hear, "Devs haven't tapped into the hidden power yet, just wait!" That didn't work for the PS2, and it won't work here.

MortalDecay

Is it the most revolutionary thing ever? No, but then again the Xbox 360 isn't revolutionary either. Yes Sony hypes their consoles just like Microsoft does. If you buy completely into the hype of either console manufacturer you're blind.

The PS3 isn't bloated. Sure, it's much bigger than the Wii but so is the Xbox 360. The PS3 is smaller than the Xbox 360 when you consider the giant power supply it has.

I don't know what your problem with Blue Ray is. It can hold a huge amount of data.

As for resolution, the vast majority of the PS3's games run at 720p. Sure, a game developer or two has gone lower because they are putting in some pretty amazing graphical effects. The system isn't infinantly powerful true, but it certainly can dish out graphics just as well as the Xbox 360 can.

How do you guys feel about Sony's "revolutionary" console, now that it's been out for over a year, and we've seen what it can do?

I know Sony overhypes their consoles, but this is rediculous. Sony promised a console that would be able to deliver things we've never seen before in a video game. What do we really get? A bloated movie player. The 360 more than holds it's own against the PS3, considering the PS3 came out a year later. What's worse is devs are having to dumb down the resolution, and force players to install half of the game to their HDD to even keep up with the 360. Why are cows not upset about this?

Sony takes out features after the console has been out for 6 months, then adds features later in the game, making people pay $50+ for old technology. I would be highly upset if I were a cow. Sony cannot make up thier mind.

I don't even want to get into all of the vaporware that Sony has been promising.

Where's the revolution? Where's the innovation? I don't want to hear, "Devs haven't tapped into the hidden power yet, just wait!" That didn't work for the PS2, and it won't work here.

MortalDecay

Level 30 and this ignorant and fanboyish...shame...

Like Microsoft never overhyped things, HD-DVD, upgraded HD sizes, critisized nintendo for motion control but now there in talks of it, brag about HD-DVD but now in talks about taking blu-ray...

How are lems not mad...tell me this please...

$230 for an overpriced dumbed down pc rip off....

PC does everything the 360 does, for free, has all of 360's best games out on pc

PC does mods, gets some of the 360 games add-on content for free included in the game...

360 can't do mods, has no standardized hard drive, has overpriced hard drives acessible...

60 dollars a year for xbl, but pc offers videos, tv shows, mods, millions of gamers, and everything the 360 has on live for 0 dollars a year, you don't have to pay for Microsoft to host a server of YOUR connection, on pc its free...

Paying 60 JUST TO SEE THIS STUFF, doesn't mean every single person will buy the stuff on the marketplace, some people just play online everyday for fun, and don't buy anything...

Not to mention paying for lag, and if you disagree teamxbox.com even said xbox lives a rip off...

Can't even do real hd, pc has higher resolution and all 360's best games, mods, free online play included...

Why are cows not upset about this?

MortalDecay

because im having too much fun playing awesome games, using free online, and enjoying blu-ray movies - in that order.

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

How do you guys feel about Sony's "revolutionary" console, now that it's been out for over a year, and we've seen what it can do?

I know Sony overhypes their consoles, but this is rediculous. Sony promised a console that would be able to deliver things we've never seen before in a video game. What do we really get? A bloated movie player. The 360 more than holds it's own against the PS3, considering the PS3 came out a year later. What's worse is devs are having to dumb down the resolution, and force players to install half of the game to their HDD to even keep up with the 360. Why are cows not upset about this?

Sony takes out features after the console has been out for 6 months, then adds features later in the game, making people pay $50+ for old technology. I would be highly upset if I were a cow. Sony cannot make up thier mind.

I don't even want to get into all of the vaporware that Sony has been promising.

Where's the revolution? Where's the innovation? I don't want to hear, "Devs haven't tapped into the hidden power yet, just wait!" That didn't work for the PS2, and it won't work here.

Muzzle_Flashes

Level 30 and this ignorant and fanboyish...shame...

Like Microsoft never overhyped things, HD-DVD, upgraded HD sizes, critisized nintendo for motion control but now there in talks of it, brag about HD-DVD but now in talks about taking blu-ray...

How are lems not mad...tell me this please...

$230 for an overpriced dumbed down pc rip off....

PC does everything the 360 does, for free, has all of 360's best games out on pc

PC does mods, gets some of the 360 games add-on content for free included in the game...

360 can't do mods, has no standardized hard drive, has overpriced hard drives acessible...

60 dollars a year for xbl, but pc offers videos, tv shows, mods, millions of gamers, and everything the 360 has on live for 0 dollars a year, you don't have to pay for Microsoft to host a server of YOUR connection, on pc its free...

Paying 60 JUST TO SEE THIS STUFF, doesn't mean every single person will buy the stuff on the marketplace, some people just play online everyday for fun, and don't buy anything...

Not to mention paying for lag, and if you disagree teamxbox.com even said xbox lives a rip off...

Can't even do real hd, pc has higher resolution and all 360's best games, mods, free online play included...

i completely agree with you this guy should be embarrassed..it is so biased the 360 has had just as many problems

- the addition of the HDMI output which should of been there from the start and the elite which just adds a bigger hard drive which also should of been on the first one

- the RROD has been a problem for most 360 owners since the launch if it hasnt happened to you it will soon enough

- the 360 plus a wireless adapter $100 plus $60 for live plus about $40 for batteris equals $550 which is a $100 more than the 80GB ps3 and still has no blu-ray

- you said the ps3 isnt revolutionary...its done more than the 360 has...blu-ray is the new standard format for movies and games what has 360 done so revolutionary

Sony .....where...is.....HOME and In-game XMB? Where is it? That's what I want. I have my hands full with games right now. Where in the world are these two features. WHY ARE THEY NOT HERE YET!

That's what makes me mad.

[QUOTE="majadamus"]Both lemmings and Cows know that the Wii is the closest thing to revolutionary we're going to get this gen. M$ and Sony have failed at trying to innovate. thegame1980

same old spamware titles and last gen graphics.

Sounds ALOT like the ps3/360

Sony .....where...is.....HOME and In-game XMB? Where is it? That's what I want. I have my hands full with games right now. Where in the world are these two features. WHY ARE THEY NOT HERE YET!

That's what makes me mad.

MikeE21286

I would much rather wait for them to get them perfect than for them to rush out a really crappy version of them.

To many people live in a "must have" mentality. More times than not waiting for something will end up turning great in the long run.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

Sony .....where...is.....HOME and In-game XMB? Where is it? That's what I want. I have my hands full with games right now. Where in the world are these two features. WHY ARE THEY NOT HERE YET!

That's what makes me mad.

CajunShooter

I would much rather wait for them to get them perfect than for them to rush out a really crappy version of them.

To many people live in a "must have" mentality. More times than not waiting for something will end up turning great in the long run.

I agree. But c'mon. How long does it take.

Like Killzone 2 for example (and this has been brought up several times). The game was shown in 2005 and now Gears of War 1 and 2 are gonna come out before Killzone 2 even comes out.

I mean I just hate waiting, but I would rather have the thing perfect rather than rushed. The thing about the PS3 is that it is starting to feel "souless". Whatever that means, I can't define it, but I mean I want that XBL-type experience on my PS3 also. I just don't feel as connected.

So, after Gears 2 confirmed 10x bigger and better than Gears 1, after Fable 2 confirmed 20-30 times more huge, innovative and interesting than Fable 1, and stunning looking on top, and Banjo 3 confirmed as one of the most innovative games ever, and amazing looking too, all with the added perk of co-op, and adding Viva Pinata 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human and a host of JRPG's ....

... who is just leaving PS3 for good and grabs a 360 ?

So, after Gears 2 confirmed 10x bigger and better than Gears 1, after Fable 2 confirmed 20-30 times more huge, innovative and interesting than Fable 1, and stunning looking on top, and Banjo 3 confirmed as one of the most innovative games ever, and amazing looking too, all with the added perk of co-op, and adding Viva Pinata 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human and a host of JRPG's ....

... who is just leaving PS3 for good and grabs a 360 ?

kostmpekir

nah.... PS3 and 360 have enough great exclusives to warrant owning both of them.

[QUOTE="Muzzle_Flashes"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

How do you guys feel about Sony's "revolutionary" console, now that it's been out for over a year, and we've seen what it can do?

I know Sony overhypes their consoles, but this is rediculous. Sony promised a console that would be able to deliver things we've never seen before in a video game. What do we really get? A bloated movie player. The 360 more than holds it's own against the PS3, considering the PS3 came out a year later. What's worse is devs are having to dumb down the resolution, and force players to install half of the game to their HDD to even keep up with the 360. Why are cows not upset about this?

Sony takes out features after the console has been out for 6 months, then adds features later in the game, making people pay $50+ for old technology. I would be highly upset if I were a cow. Sony cannot make up thier mind.

I don't even want to get into all of the vaporware that Sony has been promising.

Where's the revolution? Where's the innovation? I don't want to hear, "Devs haven't tapped into the hidden power yet, just wait!" That didn't work for the PS2, and it won't work here.

caligamer

Level 30 and this ignorant and fanboyish...shame...

Like Microsoft never overhyped things, HD-DVD, upgraded HD sizes, critisized nintendo for motion control but now there in talks of it, brag about HD-DVD but now in talks about taking blu-ray...

How are lems not mad...tell me this please...

$230 for an overpriced dumbed down pc rip off....

PC does everything the 360 does, for free, has all of 360's best games out on pc

PC does mods, gets some of the 360 games add-on content for free included in the game...

360 can't do mods, has no standardized hard drive, has overpriced hard drives acessible...

60 dollars a year for xbl, but pc offers videos, tv shows, mods, millions of gamers, and everything the 360 has on live for 0 dollars a year, you don't have to pay for Microsoft to host a server of YOUR connection, on pc its free...

Paying 60 JUST TO SEE THIS STUFF, doesn't mean every single person will buy the stuff on the marketplace, some people just play online everyday for fun, and don't buy anything...

Not to mention paying for lag, and if you disagree teamxbox.com even said xbox lives a rip off...

Can't even do real hd, pc has higher resolution and all 360's best games, mods, free online play included...

i completely agree with you this guy should be embarrassed..it is so biased the 360 has had just as many problems

- the addition of the HDMI output which should of been there from the start and the elite which just adds a bigger hard drive which also should of been on the first one

- the RROD has been a problem for most 360 owners since the launch if it hasnt happened to you it will soon enough

- the 360 plus a wireless adapter $100 plus $60 for live plus about $40 for batteris equals $550 which is a $100 more than the 80GB ps3 and still has no blu-ray

- you said the ps3 isnt revolutionary...its done more than the 360 has...blu-ray is the new standard format for movies and games what has 360 done so revolutionary

Thats the damn truth, Both are worth owning but both also have problems that negate the other.

[QUOTE="majadamus"]Both lemmings and Cows know that the Wii is the closest thing to revolutionary we're going to get this gen. M$ and Sony have failed at trying to innovate. ermacness

/sarcasm

Not to mention they don't play that great when using the Wii remote, the one thing that pretty much separates it from being a GameCube v2.0.

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

How do you guys feel about Sony's "revolutionary" console, now that it's been out for over a year, and we've seen what it can do?

I know Sony overhypes their consoles, but this is rediculous. Sony promised a console that would be able to deliver things we've never seen before in a video game. What do we really get? A bloated movie player. The 360 more than holds it's own against the PS3, considering the PS3 came out a year later. What's worse is devs are having to dumb down the resolution, and force players to install half of the game to their HDD to even keep up with the 360. Why are cows not upset about this?

Sony takes out features after the console has been out for 6 months, then adds features later in the game, making people pay $50+ for old technology. I would be highly upset if I were a cow. Sony cannot make up thier mind.

I don't even want to get into all of the vaporware that Sony has been promising.

Where's the revolution? Where's the innovation? I don't want to hear, "Devs haven't tapped into the hidden power yet, just wait!" That didn't work for the PS2, and it won't work here.

Muzzle_Flashes

Level 30 and this ignorant and fanboyish...shame...

Like Microsoft never overhyped things, HD-DVD, upgraded HD sizes, critisized nintendo for motion control but now there in talks of it, brag about HD-DVD but now in talks about taking blu-ray...

How are lems not mad...tell me this please...

$230 for an overpriced dumbed down pc rip off....

PC does everything the 360 does, for free, has all of 360's best games out on pc

PC does mods, gets some of the 360 games add-on content for free included in the game...

360 can't do mods, has no standardized hard drive, has overpriced hard drives acessible...

60 dollars a year for xbl, but pc offers videos, tv shows, mods, millions of gamers, and everything the 360 has on live for 0 dollars a year, you don't have to pay for Microsoft to host a server of YOUR connection, on pc its free...

Paying 60 JUST TO SEE THIS STUFF, doesn't mean every single person will buy the stuff on the marketplace, some people just play online everyday for fun, and don't buy anything...

Not to mention paying for lag, and if you disagree teamxbox.com even said xbox lives a rip off...

Can't even do real hd, pc has higher resolution and all 360's best games, mods, free online play included...

You call me ignorant, yet you bring up the PC? :| When did this become a 360 Vs. PC thread? You can't come up with any reasonable arguement for the PS3, so you need to bring up the PC in it's defense?

There is not one single company out there without their own flaws. I never once said MS was perfect, in any way. Yet, in typical cow fashion, I am labeled a fanboy. Why? Because I pointed out the numerous flaws on Sony, and the PS3. This is system wars. This is were these kind of things are discussed. It's not my fault the cows can't handle the truth.

So, instead of wondering why Sony has such a long history of false promises, and why they released such a weak console compared to what they originally hyped, all cows know how to do is throw in the words "RROD", and "OMG FANBOY!" when someone brings up a valid arguement.

I wouldn't mind owning a PS3, if Sony got their crap together.

If anything this thread has proven how rabid cows can get when they defend a company that has lied to them way too many times.

[QUOTE="Muzzle_Flashes"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

How do you guys feel about Sony's "revolutionary" console, now that it's been out for over a year, and we've seen what it can do?

I know Sony overhypes their consoles, but this is rediculous. Sony promised a console that would be able to deliver things we've never seen before in a video game. What do we really get? A bloated movie player. The 360 more than holds it's own against the PS3, considering the PS3 came out a year later. What's worse is devs are having to dumb down the resolution, and force players to install half of the game to their HDD to even keep up with the 360. Why are cows not upset about this?

Sony takes out features after the console has been out for 6 months, then adds features later in the game, making people pay $50+ for old technology. I would be highly upset if I were a cow. Sony cannot make up thier mind.

I don't even want to get into all of the vaporware that Sony has been promising.

Where's the revolution? Where's the innovation? I don't want to hear, "Devs haven't tapped into the hidden power yet, just wait!" That didn't work for the PS2, and it won't work here.

caligamer

Level 30 and this ignorant and fanboyish...shame...

Like Microsoft never overhyped things, HD-DVD, upgraded HD sizes, critisized nintendo for motion control but now there in talks of it, brag about HD-DVD but now in talks about taking blu-ray...

How are lems not mad...tell me this please...

$230 for an overpriced dumbed down pc rip off....

PC does everything the 360 does, for free, has all of 360's best games out on pc

PC does mods, gets some of the 360 games add-on content for free included in the game...

360 can't do mods, has no standardized hard drive, has overpriced hard drives acessible...

60 dollars a year for xbl, but pc offers videos, tv shows, mods, millions of gamers, and everything the 360 has on live for 0 dollars a year, you don't have to pay for Microsoft to host a server of YOUR connection, on pc its free...

Paying 60 JUST TO SEE THIS STUFF, doesn't mean every single person will buy the stuff on the marketplace, some people just play online everyday for fun, and don't buy anything...

Not to mention paying for lag, and if you disagree teamxbox.com even said xbox lives a rip off...

Can't even do real hd, pc has higher resolution and all 360's best games, mods, free online play included...

i completely agree with you this guy should be embarrassed..it is so biased the 360 has had just as many problems

- the addition of the HDMI output which should of been there from the start and the elite which just adds a bigger hard drive which also should of been on the first one

- the RROD has been a problem for most 360 owners since the launch if it hasnt happened to you it will soon enough

- the 360 plus a wireless adapter $100 plus $60 for live plus about $40 for batteris equals $550 which is a $100 more than the 80GB ps3 and still has no blu-ray

- you said the ps3 isnt revolutionary...its done more than the 360 has...blu-ray is the new standard format for movies and games what has 360 done so revolutionary

:lol: On the games side of the PS3, BluRay is more of a problem, than a revolution. Wait a minute...The PS3 is the first video game console to ever require most of it's games to be installed on the HDD, (with the obvious exception to Final Fantasy XI) in order to keep the load times low, and the frame rates up. That sure is a revolutionary!

Sony .....where...is.....HOME and In-game XMB? Where is it? That's what I want. I have my hands full with games right now. Where in the world are these two features. WHY ARE THEY NOT HERE YET!

That's what makes me mad.

MikeE21286

[QUOTE="Muzzle_Flashes"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

How do you guys feel about Sony's "revolutionary" console, now that it's been out for over a year, and we've seen what it can do?

I know Sony overhypes their consoles, but this is rediculous. Sony promised a console that would be able to deliver things we've never seen before in a video game. What do we really get? A bloated movie player. The 360 more than holds it's own against the PS3, considering the PS3 came out a year later. What's worse is devs are having to dumb down the resolution, and force players to install half of the game to their HDD to even keep up with the 360. Why are cows not upset about this?

Sony takes out features after the console has been out for 6 months, then adds features later in the game, making people pay $50+ for old technology. I would be highly upset if I were a cow. Sony cannot make up thier mind.

I don't even want to get into all of the vaporware that Sony has been promising.

Where's the revolution? Where's the innovation? I don't want to hear, "Devs haven't tapped into the hidden power yet, just wait!" That didn't work for the PS2, and it won't work here.

MortalDecay

Level 30 and this ignorant and fanboyish...shame...

Like Microsoft never overhyped things, HD-DVD, upgraded HD sizes, critisized nintendo for motion control but now there in talks of it, brag about HD-DVD but now in talks about taking blu-ray...

How are lems not mad...tell me this please...

$230 for an overpriced dumbed down pc rip off....

PC does everything the 360 does, for free, has all of 360's best games out on pc

PC does mods, gets some of the 360 games add-on content for free included in the game...

360 can't do mods, has no standardized hard drive, has overpriced hard drives acessible...

60 dollars a year for xbl, but pc offers videos, tv shows, mods, millions of gamers, and everything the 360 has on live for 0 dollars a year, you don't have to pay for Microsoft to host a server of YOUR connection, on pc its free...

Paying 60 JUST TO SEE THIS STUFF, doesn't mean every single person will buy the stuff on the marketplace, some people just play online everyday for fun, and don't buy anything...

Not to mention paying for lag, and if you disagree teamxbox.com even said xbox lives a rip off...

Can't even do real hd, pc has higher resolution and all 360's best games, mods, free online play included...

You call me ignorant, yet you bring up the PC? :| When did this become a 360 Vs. PC thread? You can't come up with any reasonable arguement for the PS3, so you need to bring up the PC in it's defense?

There is not one single company out there without their own flaws. I never once said MS was perfect, in any way. Yet, in typical cow fashion, I am labeled a fanboy. Why? Because I pointed out the numerous flaws on Sony, and the PS3. This is system wars. This is were these kind of things are discussed. It's not my fault the cows can't handle the truth.

So, instead of wondering why Sony has such a long history of false promises, and why they released such a weak console compared to what they originally hyped, all cows know how to do is throw in the words "RROD", and "OMG FANBOY!" when someone brings up a valid arguement.

I wouldn't mind owning a PS3, if Sony got their crap together.

If anything this thread has proven how rabid cows can get when they defend a company that has lied to them way too many times.

what he's trying to say is, obviously cows here own pc's otherwise they wouldn't be able to come on here. therefore if we really wanted to play ALL of the 360's AAA games all we;d have to do is buy them for pc. not only that but pc games are cheaper, run at higher resolution, free online, free mods, and all the extra content that you had to pay for on the 360. and yes that is almost ALL of the 360's AAA games. they aren't exclusive if they're on another platform. i mean EVERY SINGLE lemming here has said that NGS is not exclusive...whats so different about GeOW(among others) being on the pc then??? therefore the 360 is pretty much AAAEless just like the PS3.

and saying things like cows always revert to the RROD, so what, its a valid arguement. plus lemming always revert to the, we have the choice, or the no AAAE's argument, or even more recently the DRE in the PS2 last gen(which at least sony fixed). the FACT is lemmings get milked with the 360. wifi should be standard, HDD should be standard, wireless rechargeable controllers should be standard, HDMI should be standard, no power brick should be standard. the list goes on and on. just as with ps3 though, custom soundtracks should be standard, in game XMB should be standard. however i find the 360s list to be far worse then the ps3's as the ps3 is mostly all a simply software update, whereas the 360 is mostly hardware.

also i've seen ALOT of sale arguements...uhhh the 360 was something like 11 million ahead of the ps3 a year ago and nows its less then 5 million ahead. ps3 seems to be closing the gap pretty quickly if you ask me. and multiplat games these days have ALL been superior on the PS3. thats not to say that in the beginning they were, but even gamespot these days is saying the ps3 versions are loading faster, have better framerates, less pop in, basically just overall slightly better. how can lems even try to argue this anymore

edit:just realized i said we instead of they when referring to the cows. i myself am a manticore. i go where the games that interest me are. BTW everyone bashing on the wii seriously needs to play its AAAE's. but beyond that i cant recommend anything else for it

lol i forgot in my last post.

you want innovation???wheres the innovation in the 360????achievments have been done for years now. maybe not as clean but it has been done. custom soundtracks???also been done. theres NOTHING special about the 360. its all been done before. oh wait there is ONE thing thats unique and innovative. GETTING CHARGED FOR P2P GAMING. lol

I do not see how games from 360 coming to PC, help PS3 users, unless they have a super pc to run them, and they do come to pc

For now the below will not come to PC, unless announced otherwise

Gears 2 !!!! (co-op)

Fable 2 (co-op)

Banjo 3 (co-op)

Viva pinata 2 (co-op)

Too Human (co-op)

Cry On

Tales of Vepseria (co-op)

Infinite Undisocvery

Lost odyssey

Halo Wars (co-op)

etc etc

So, i do not see how PC helps PC at all TBH, the very best 360 games are NOT on PC

As for real innovation, try Banjo 3, Viva Pinata 2 and Fable 2 IMO, what i have read from yesterday is beyond words for both games, i never knew those two were that big in gameplay TBH

Also try co-op for most of the above games !!!! (nearly for all)

So, after Gears 2 confirmed 10x bigger and better than Gears 1, after Fable 2 confirmed 20-30 times more huge, innovative and interesting than Fable 1, and stunning looking on top, and Banjo 3 confirmed as one of the most innovative games ever, and amazing looking too, all with the added perk of co-op, and adding Viva Pinata 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human and a host of JRPG's ....

... who is just leaving PS3 for good and grabs a 360 ?

kostmpekir

the above are not facts, just a wishlist lemmings have.... play the games first before idolising them....

PS3 has a great lineup this year even with all the delays... many just mention MGSIV but there is so much more..

Shooters :- Haze, Resistance2, SOCOM, MGSIV

RPGS - Valkyria Chronicles, Disgea3, White Knight Chronicles (not sure if its 2008)

Racing titles :- Motorstorm2, Wipeout HD

Other :- LBP , Home

So games will be out this year... and i just listed the exclusives, did not include the Multi-plats.... Xbox360 owners should do the same since we all know that eventually GeOW2, Bioshock2, Mass effect2 and other '360' exlusives end up on PC which is a gaming systems...

[QUOTE="kostmpekir"]

So, after Gears 2 confirmed 10x bigger and better than Gears 1, after Fable 2 confirmed 20-30 times more huge, innovative and interesting than Fable 1, and stunning looking on top, and Banjo 3 confirmed as one of the most innovative games ever, and amazing looking too, all with the added perk of co-op, and adding Viva Pinata 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human and a host of JRPG's ....

... who is just leaving PS3 for good and grabs a 360 ?

Malta_1980

the above are not facts, just a wishlist lemmings have.... play the games first before idolising them....

PS3 has a great lineup this year even with all the delays... many just mention MGSIV but there is so much more..

Shooters :- Haze, Resistance2, SOCOM, MGSIV

RPGS - Valkyria Chronicles, Disgea3, White Knight Chronicles (not sure if its 2008)

Racing titles :- Motorstorm2, Wipeout HD

Other :- LBP , Home

So games will be out this year... and i just listed the exclusives, did not include the Multi-plats.... Xbox360 owners should do the same since we all know that eventually GeOW2, Bioshock2, Mass effect2 and other '360' exlusives end up on PC which is a gaming systems...

Sorry, but those PS3 games make me only sleepy after seeing what Fable 2 and Banjo 3 is all about yesterday, i have to admit i NEVER expected anything like that, this is real gaming for me

Anything on PS3 seems so standard, been there, done that, especially all those shooters

I will not even comment on .. .Disgea 3 !!! or Valkyrie, that is Strategy RPG, boring stuff

Frankly, if i just wanted to feel old game nostalgia, i could play some old titles on my PS2, and save me a PS3 money or buying games like Disgea 3 and Valkyria

I do not see how games from 360 coming to PC, help PS3 users, unless they have a super pc to run them, and they do come to pc

For now the below will not come to PC, unless announced otherwise

Gears 2 !!!! (co-op)

Fable 2 (co-op)

Banjo 3 (co-op)

Viva pinata 2 (co-op)

Too Human (co-op)

Cry On

Tales of Vepseria (co-op)

Infinite Undisocvery

Lost odyssey

Halo Wars (co-op)

etc etc

So, i do not see how PC helps PC at all TBH, the very best 360 games are NOT on PC

As for real innovation, try Banjo 3, Viva Pinata 2 and Fable 2 IMO, what i have read from yesterday is beyond words for both games, i never knew those two were that big in gameplay TBH

Also try co-op for most of the above games !!!! (nearly for all)

kostmpekir

lol you did not just say the best 360 games are not on pc...ALMOST EVERY SINGLY GAME YOU LEMMINGS HOLD DEAR IS ON THE PC, BUT BETTER IN EVERY WAY ON THE PC. and no you dont need some uber pc to play them either. my pc is nothing more then average and can run them. im sure banjo 3 wont be comming pc way however gears 2, fable2 and a couple other WILL hit the pc at a later date with more content. just as their predessors did. also who's to say those are even guaranteed AAA's????alot of people these days will agree gears wasn't even anything special, it was just incredibly pretty for its time. but once the shinyness wears off you're not left with a whole lot. maybe you should lower you expectations for gears 2, specially since they're putting it out soooo fast. seriously its just being rushed to make money, but we all know good games take longer to develop then 1.5 years.

and fable 2 innovative????sure they talk BIG just like fable 1 but fable 1 failed to deliver on just about every promise they made(kinda like PS3...lol), but once again i wouldn't get your hopes up. viva pinata. honestly i haven't played that one so i cant really comment too much on it. but as the first never interested me im sure the second will be no different. banjo 3 is just about the only one on that list that has any hopes. and im sorry but even saying halo wars is kind of insulting. just trying to capitalize on the halo name.

I do not see how games from 360 coming to PC, help PS3 users, unless they have a super pc to run them, and they do come to pc

For now the below will not come to PC, unless announced otherwise

Gears 2 !!!! (co-op)

Fable 2 (co-op)

Banjo 3 (co-op)

Viva pinata 2 (co-op)

Too Human (co-op)

Cry On

Tales of Vepseria (co-op)

Infinite Undisocvery

Lost odyssey

Halo Wars (co-op)

etc etc

So, i do not see how PC helps PC at all TBH, the very best 360 games are NOT on PC

As for real innovation, try Banjo 3, Viva Pinata 2 and Fable 2 IMO, what i have read from yesterday is beyond words for both games, i never knew those two were that big in gameplay TBH

Also try co-op for most of the above games !!!! (nearly for all)

kostmpekir

Bioshock, Mass Effect, and Gears of War would like to say hi. And you're right, Tales of Vesperia won't be coming to the PC, its coming to the PS3. As for the others, I could definitely see GeOW 2, Halo Wars, and Too Human going PC.

PS3 = the only next gen hardware. Cell processor and Blu-ray, nuff said.dream431ca

[QUOTE="kostmpekir"]

So, after Gears 2 confirmed 10x bigger and better than Gears 1, after Fable 2 confirmed 20-30 times more huge, innovative and interesting than Fable 1, and stunning looking on top, and Banjo 3 confirmed as one of the most innovative games ever, and amazing looking too, all with the added perk of co-op, and adding Viva Pinata 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human and a host of JRPG's ....

... who is just leaving PS3 for good and grabs a 360 ?

Malta_1980

the above are not facts, just a wishlist lemmings have.... play the games first before idolising them....

PS3 has a great lineup this year even with all the delays... many just mention MGSIV but there is so much more..

Shooters :- Resistance2, SOCOM, MGSIV(not really a shooter but oh well), KZ2(only delayed in europe so far)

RPGS - Valkyria Chronicles, Disgea3, White Knight Chronicles (not sure if its 2008)

Racing titles :Wipeout HD

Other :- LBP , Home

So games will be out this year... and i just listed the exclusives, did not include the Multi-plats.... Xbox360 owners should do the same since we all know that eventually GeOW2, Bioshock2, Mass effect2 and other '360' exlusives end up on PC which is a gaming systems...

i fixed that list a little bit. motorstorm 1 sucked, ill expect no better for motorstorm 2 and the haze demo wasn't really that good

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]PS3 = the only next gen hardware. Cell processor and Blu-ray, nuff said.DrinkDuff

how is it delusional???what is wrong about the statment???just because it is in fact the only one with true next gen hardware doesn't make it the best console. he never said the console was the best because of the hardware, only that it has it. maybe you need a little better reading comprehension

[QUOTE="kostmpekir"]

I do not see how games from 360 coming to PC, help PS3 users, unless they have a super pc to run them, and they do come to pc

For now the below will not come to PC, unless announced otherwise

Gears 2 !!!! (co-op)

Fable 2 (co-op)

Banjo 3 (co-op)

Viva pinata 2 (co-op)

Too Human (co-op)

Cry On

Tales of Vepseria (co-op)

Infinite Undisocvery

Lost odyssey

Halo Wars (co-op)

etc etc

So, i do not see how PC helps PC at all TBH, the very best 360 games are NOT on PC

As for real innovation, try Banjo 3, Viva Pinata 2 and Fable 2 IMO, what i have read from yesterday is beyond words for both games, i never knew those two were that big in gameplay TBH

Also try co-op for most of the above games !!!! (nearly for all)

LuckyLy

Bioshock, Mass Effect, and Gears of War would like to say hi. And you're right, Tales of Vesperia won't be coming to the PC, its coming to the PS3. As for the others, I could definitely see GeOW 2, Halo Wars, and Too Human going PC.

Frankly, gaming for me is about playing day on the most incredible games, it is not about playing those ordinary PS3 titles or gambling my gaming, waiting to see IF some of those 360 titles will come to ... PC years after !!!! (not PS3 even) and spend 1500$ to buy a good PC to play them on top

Funny how the main argument defending the garbage for me PS3 lineup in 2008 is .... that some of the 360 games MAY come to PC years later !!!!

HAHAHAHA, can't get more pathetic than that

BTW i still don't see how Bioshock, Mass Effect beeing on PC, helps PS3 at all

how is it delusional???what is wrong about the statment???just because it is in fact the only one with true next gen hardware doesn't make it the best console. he never said the console was the best because of the hardware, only that it has it. maybe you need a little better reading comprehension

enygma500

PS3 has both less RAM and a last gen GPU comparing to 360, now THAT is a 100% proven fact

Xbox360 is the only next gen hardware, PS3 is last gen graphics with a Blue Ray drive

[QUOTE="LuckyLy"][QUOTE="kostmpekir"]

I do not see how games from 360 coming to PC, help PS3 users, unless they have a super pc to run them, and they do come to pc

For now the below will not come to PC, unless announced otherwise

Gears 2 !!!! (co-op)

Fable 2 (co-op)

Banjo 3 (co-op)

Viva pinata 2 (co-op)

Too Human (co-op)

Cry On

Tales of Vepseria (co-op)

Infinite Undisocvery

Lost odyssey

Halo Wars (co-op)

etc etc

So, i do not see how PC helps PC at all TBH, the very best 360 games are NOT on PC

As for real innovation, try Banjo 3, Viva Pinata 2 and Fable 2 IMO, what i have read from yesterday is beyond words for both games, i never knew those two were that big in gameplay TBH

Also try co-op for most of the above games !!!! (nearly for all)

kostmpekir

Bioshock, Mass Effect, and Gears of War would like to say hi. And you're right, Tales of Vesperia won't be coming to the PC, its coming to the PS3. As for the others, I could definitely see GeOW 2, Halo Wars, and Too Human going PC.

Frankly, gaming for me is about playing day on the most incredible games, it is not about playing those ordinary PS3 titles or gambling my gaming, waiting to see IF some of those 360 titles will come to ... PC years after !!!! (not PS3 even) and spend 1500$ to buy a good PC to play them on top

Funny how the main argument defending the garbage for me PS3 lineup in 2008 is .... that some of the 360 games MAY come to PC years later !!!!

HAHAHAHA, can't get more pathetic than that

BTW i still don't see how Bioshock, Mass Effect beeing on PC, helps PS3 at all

how is it delusional???what is wrong about the statment???just because it is in fact the only one with true next gen hardware doesn't make it the best console. he never said the console was the best because of the hardware, only that it has it. maybe you need a little better reading comprehension

enygma500

PS3 has both less RAM and a last gen GPU comparing to 360, now THAT is a 100% proven fact

Xbox360 is the only next gen hardware, PS3 is last gen graphics with a Blue Ray drive

ps3 and the 360 have the same amount of ram...and the gpu's are comparable each has its pro's and con's. so maybe get your facts straight. and you're bashing the graphics, yet atm ps3 is the graphics king, and all the current multiplats are running better and faster on the ps3. you lemmings crack me up

and there is no gamble in whether or not the game will go to pc...all the best have and all the best will, same happened with the xbox games. they've been doing it religously for both their generations in console gaming...why stop now?. and most games aren't years later, maybe a year later, with upgrades to EVERY aspect of the game imaginable. graphics, online, extra episodes, weapons, framerate to list a few. theres no argueing this i dont even understand why you're trying. and no it doesn't take a $1500 pc to run them....haven't you seen all the hermits budget pcs threads?$500 can run all those games.

you say the ps3 games are mediocre and lame but have you even tried them???heavenly sword was amazing, uncharted also great, warhawk(tho i personally didn't like it)has a huge fanbase.

ps3 and the 360 have the same amount of ram...and the gpu's are comparable each has its pro's and con's. so maybe get your facts straight. and you're bashing the graphics, yet atm ps3 is the graphics king, and all the current multiplats are running better and faster on the ps3. you lemmings crack me up

and there is no gamble in whether or not the game will go to pc...all the best have and all the best will, same happened with the xbox games. they've been doing it religously for both their generations in console gaming...why stop now?. and most games aren't years later, maybe a year later, with upgrades to EVERY aspect of the game imaginable. graphics, online, extra episodes, weapons, framerate to list a few. theres no argueing this i dont even understand why you're trying. and no it doesn't take a $1500 pc to run them....haven't you seen all the hermits budget pcs threads?$500 can run all those games.

you say the ps3 games are mediocre and lame but have you even tried them???heavenly sword was amazing, uncharted also great, warhawk(tho i personally didn't like it)has a huge fanbase.

enygma500

Gears 2 is the best looking game ever, so PS3 is not more powerfull

Has less ram, because 360 uses only 32MB for the OS, while PS3 uses 64MB, and 360 has extra 10MB EDRAM, for a total of 42 MB more for games

Also the GPU in PS3 is DX9, 360 is DX10 prototype, like DX9.5 with Shader Model 3.5 and not 3.0, that is why has so much superior effects and shading

Last but not least all multiplatform games run better on 360, last was GTA4, that is true 720p, unlike PS3 640p and had 4x AA while PS3 had no AA !!!

Finally any games goingto PC, do not help PS3 at all

:lol:

i guess from TC's "truthful" logic:

DVD9 >>> Blu-ray

$50 Live >>> free PSN + Folding@Home

AA batteries >>> bluetooth

RROD >>> 0.02%

[QUOTE="enygma500"]ps3 and the 360 have the same amount of ram...and the gpu's are comparable each has its pro's and con's. so maybe get your facts straight. and you're bashing the graphics, yet atm ps3 is the graphics king, and all the current multiplats are running better and faster on the ps3. you lemmings crack me up

and there is no gamble in whether or not the game will go to pc...all the best have and all the best will, same happened with the xbox games. they've been doing it religously for both their generations in console gaming...why stop now?. and most games aren't years later, maybe a year later, with upgrades to EVERY aspect of the game imaginable. graphics, online, extra episodes, weapons, framerate to list a few. theres no argueing this i dont even understand why you're trying. and no it doesn't take a $1500 pc to run them....haven't you seen all the hermits budget pcs threads?$500 can run all those games.

you say the ps3 games are mediocre and lame but have you even tried them???heavenly sword was amazing, uncharted also great, warhawk(tho i personally didn't like it)has a huge fanbase.

kostmpekir

Gears 2 is the best looking game ever, so PS3 is not more powerfull

Has less ram, because 360 uses only 32MB for the OS, while PS3 uses 64MB, and 360 has extra 10MB EDRAM, for a total of 42 MB more for games

Also the GPU in PS3 is DX9, 360 is DX10 prototype, like DX9.5 with Shader Model 3.5 and not 3.0, that is why has so much superior effects and shading

Last but not least all multiplatform games run better on 360, last was GTA4, that is true 720p, unlike PS3 640p and had 4x AA while PS3 had no AA !!!

Finally any games goingto PC, do not help PS3 at all

i never once said games going to pc helps the ps3. not once. and *gasp* 42 whole more ram. my god!!!!!you can do a whole lotta nothing with that. and alot of hermit say dx 10 is a waste so far, so im gonna pretend you didn't even say that.

as for 4X AA and all that other BS. IGN and gamespot both say GTA looks better on ps3. just because the numbers are bigger for the 360 doesn't instantly make it better....also if the 360 version needed AA to look almost as good as the ps3 without AA doesn't that kinda prove the ps3's superiority??you're kinda just starting to make a fool outta yourself now.

and dont make me laugh with that gears comment. seriously its not even the best looking game on the 360 anymore let alone between the 2 consoles. really makes me thinnk your just being a fakeboy right now, cause i dont think anybodys said anything like that in a loooooooooong time. and if you think your annoying me. your not, i love proving fanboys of all kinds wrong.

if your not just kidding then well, all your arguement are getting shallow and well fanboyish to say the least. in other words. you fail

edit:also seeing as how you compeltely avoided the question on whether or not you've even played the ps3 exclusives just shows that you haven't.

:lol:

i guess from TC's "truthful" logic:

DVD9 >>> Blu-ray

$50 Live >>> free PSN + Folding@Home

AA batteries >>> bluetooth

RROD >>> 0.02%

SHuN_G0Ku

you shoulda put built in lithium ion battery instead of bluetooth...

[QUOTE="SHuN_G0Ku"]

:lol:

i guess from TC's "truthful" logic:

DVD9 >>> Blu-ray

$50 Live >>> free PSN + Folding@Home

AA batteries >>> bluetooth

RROD >>> 0.02%

enygma500

you shoulda put built in lithium ion battery instead of bluetooth...

or better yet...

>>>

[QUOTE="enygma500"][QUOTE="SHuN_G0Ku"]

:lol:

i guess from TC's "truthful" logic:

DVD9 >>> Blu-ray

$50 Live >>> free PSN + Folding@Home

AA batteries >>> bluetooth

RROD >>> 0.02%

SHuN_G0Ku

you shoulda put built in lithium ion battery instead of bluetooth...

or better yet...

>>>

lol nice

i dont really care...

both systems are great.

only fanboys disagree