To people who complain about ads 'cluttering' the dashboard on 360..............

dude please. Zombies pay for this medicore service and shouldnt be bombared with crap like the life story of some random avatar. The ads are crap just like the lag-filled mp experience.

kobedaGOAT

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video tab/playstation store whats this? ads?
Game tab/playstaiton store what this ad's?

playstation store it self whats this? ad's random ads to boot, sunday ticket for the nfl.


99% of ad's on the 360 like the xmb ad's and playstation store ad's have to do with content found on xbox live, xbla, games appearing on xbox 360, videos on the zune marketplace...etc
the ad's can be completely bypassed you aren't forecd to watch them.

Seems like pretty weak sauce to complain about ad's when it doesn't hinder your gaming enjoyment...

It's the principle of the matter.

We PAY MONEY right into Microsoft's wallet for the right to use Xbox Live.

Having any kind of ads...even if relatively unobtrusive, is just an unjust business practice.

Either they rise the costs of subscription, or they offer tiered prices: a "Cheaper with ads," and an "Ad-free" model.

peterw007

I guess you should stop paying for television becasue you pay for it and yet there are ads interrupting your show. DERP.

I pay 60 a year for this service. I shouldn't see any ads on XBL. AAllxxjjnn

people pay 60 dollars a month for TV, get the **** over the price, its not that expensive. People complaining about paying a fee to use a good service is out of their minds. Besides PAy to play has been around since 2003/2004 people (whenever Xbox live launched) this isnt news. People will **** and complain about pay to play but then they nerdgasm over TOR or the Next WoW expansion. fail logic is fail.

XMB

video tab/playstation store whats this? ads?
Game tab/playstaiton store what this ad's?

playstation store it self whats this? ad's random ads to boot, sunday ticket for the nfl.


99% of ad's on the 360 like the xmb ad's and playstation store ad's have to do with content found on xbox live, xbla, games appearing on xbox 360, videos on the zune marketplace...etc
the ad's can be completely bypassed you aren't forecd to watch them.

Seems like pretty weak sauce to complain about ad's when it doesn't hinder your gaming enjoyment...

WilliamRLBaker

I know xmb is the PSN dash but what does it stand for? I have always wondered.

when you turn on the xbox you see 3 ads.

when you turn on the ps3 you see it scroll through 12 ads plus the scroll in the top right corner.

i actually like all the ads because they are one click tabs to the new content.

i remember when i put vudu on my ps3 i had seen the ad for it a million times and never clicked it then the day i actually wanted to put it on there it was not on the xmb like normal and i had to search for it in the media section in the psn store to install it.

it took forever to find the damn thing.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

XMB

video tab/playstation store whats this? ads?
Game tab/playstaiton store what this ad's?

playstation store it self whats this? ad's random ads to boot, sunday ticket for the nfl.


99% of ad's on the 360 like the xmb ad's and playstation store ad's have to do with content found on xbox live, xbla, games appearing on xbox 360, videos on the zune marketplace...etc
the ad's can be completely bypassed you aren't forecd to watch them.

Seems like pretty weak sauce to complain about ad's when it doesn't hinder your gaming enjoyment...

AlphaJC

I know xmb is the PSN dash but what does it stand for? I have always wondered.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

It's the principle of the matter.

We PAY MONEY right into Microsoft's wallet for the right to use Xbox Live.

Having any kind of ads...even if relatively unobtrusive, is just an unjust business practice.

Either they rise the costs of subscription, or they offer tiered prices: a "Cheaper with ads," and an "Ad-free" model.

AlphaJC

I guess you should stop paying for television becasue you pay for it and yet there are ads interrupting your show. DERP.

a recent new york times article claims the average city dweller sees five thousand ads per day.

if ads tick you off prepare to be ticked off every second for the rest of your life.

Wait... hold on! There are ads?

Seriously though... as you've shown in your pictures, the ads aren't even "in your face" like a popup window on the PC. It's odd that people have problems with ads anyways. I've said in another thread, advertisements are everywhere - PS3 users are choosing to point out that they are on the 360, for some reason. They are literally EVERYWHERE. Internet, TV, bus stops, buses, billboards, radio, Xbox, PS3, Hulu, Youtube, Gamespot..... you can't go a day without seeing an advertisement for something - if you did, there wouldn't be a company left that was making a profit. They spend the money on ads because people buy their stuff when they see it.

Wait... hold on! There are ads?

Seriously though... as you've shown in your pictures, the ads aren't even "in your face" like a popup window on the PC. It's odd that people have problems with ads anyways. I've said in another thread, advertisements are everywhere - PS3 users are choosing to point out that they are on the 360, for some reason. They are literally EVERYWHERE. Internet, TV, bus stops, buses, billboards, radio, Xbox, PS3, Hulu, Youtube, Gamespot..... you can't go a day without seeing an advertisement for something - if you did, there wouldn't be a company left that was making a profit. They spend the money on ads because people buy their stuff when they see it.

Thuganomic05

With Adblock for Chrome, I haven't seen an ad on the Internet in a very, very long time.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]I pay 60 a year for this service. I shouldn't see any ads on XBL. AlphaJC

people pay 60 dollars a month for TV, get the **** over the price, its not that expensive. People complaining about paying a fee to use a good service is out of their minds. Besides PAy to play has been around since 2003/2004 people (whenever Xbox live launched) this isnt news. People will **** and complain about pay to play but then they nerdgasm over TOR or the Next WoW expansion. fail logic is fail.

[QUOTE="AlphaJC"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

It's the principle of the matter.

We PAY MONEY right into Microsoft's wallet for the right to use Xbox Live.

Having any kind of ads...even if relatively unobtrusive, is just an unjust business practice.

Either they rise the costs of subscription, or they offer tiered prices: a "Cheaper with ads," and an "Ad-free" model.

Riverwolf007

I guess you should stop paying for television becasue you pay for it and yet there are ads interrupting your show. DERP.

a recent new york times article claims the average city dweller sees five thousand ads per day.

if ads tick you off prepare to be ticked off every second for the rest of your life.

Ummm what? im not ticked off the guy above me is asshurt.

Think of it this way. You pay for a service and they bombard you with ads. How does that make me want to give them money?

[QUOTE="AlphaJC"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]I pay 60 a year for this service. I shouldn't see any ads on XBL. exiledsnake

people pay 60 dollars a month for TV, get the **** over the price, its not that expensive. People complaining about paying a fee to use a good service is out of their minds. Besides PAy to play has been around since 2003/2004 people (whenever Xbox live launched) this isnt news. People will **** and complain about pay to play but then they nerdgasm over TOR or the Next WoW expansion. fail logic is fail.

so what does taht have to do with it? Its a game that people praise, and they pay to play it online, and the same people will criticize XBL for having to pay to play. I mean paying for a service that works is not outlandish by any means. There is a difference between that and than paying TOO MUCH, yeah I would be up in arms if XBL was like 100+ dollars or something that would warrant a big BS hammer.

when you turn on the xbox you see 3 ads.

when you turn on the ps3 you see it scroll through 12 ads plus the scroll in the top right corner.

i actually like all the ads because they are one click tabs to the new content.

i remember when i put vudu on my ps3 i had seen the ad for it a million times and never clicked it then the day i actually wanted to put it on there it was not on the xmb like normal and i had to search for it in the media section in the psn store to install it.

it took forever to find the damn thing.

Riverwolf007

They've fixed that in a new update. There's a new section on the XMB titled TV/Video services that has all the different video services apps comviently available to download.

Think of it this way. You pay for a service and they bombard you with ads. How does that make me want to give them money?

Whiteblade999

you watch TV right? you read newspapers right? you Pay for internet right? and guess what... there are ads everywhere. You watch youtube right? ads/ There are ads everywhere. In this capitalist global economy we are never going to be without ads. FOR GODS SAKES BOOKS HAVE ADS IN THEM, look at the beggining and the end of the books jacket, an ad for another book. And guess what, they have never made me stop wanting to play, read, watch or eat what they are advertising. People not expecting ads in their gaming dashboard need to wake up its 2011 people, it sucks but that is the reality. The only way I see ads hurting peoples gaming experience is if you were playing and then all of a sudden a **** ad comes up, now that is legit for some ownage.

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

Think of it this way. You pay for a service and they bombard you with ads. How does that make me want to give them money?

AlphaJC

you watch TV right? you read newspapers right? you Pay for internet right? and guess what... there are ads everywhere. You watch youtube right? ads/ There are ads everywhere. In this capitalist global economy we are never going to be without ads. FOR GODS SAKES BOOKS HAVE ADS IN THEM, look at the beggining and the end of the books jacket, an ad for another book. And guess what, they have never made me stop wanting to play, read, watch or eat what they are advertising. People not expecting ads in their gaming dashboard need to wake up its 2011 people, it sucks but that is the reality. The only way I see ads hurting peoples gaming experience is if you were playing and then all of a sudden a **** ad comes up, now that is legit for some ownage.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]doesn't matter, you're still paying to see adsAncientDozer

No, you pay for the cable service and the hardware.

With premium channels like HBO, you get ad-free content because you pay them a subscription.

The same should be true with Microsoft.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]doesn't matter, you're still paying to see adsAncientDozer

No, you pay for the cable service and the hardware.

With premium channels like HBO, you get ad-free content because you pay them a subscription.

The same should be true with Microsoft.

The fact is: we're just not used to advertisements in video games.

I know the overwhelming majority of this board embraces it as a "fact of life" but I still disagree.

Nintendo isn't doing it.

Sony does it as well, but Sony DOESN'T CHARGE for PSN.

Therefore, Microsoft shouldn't do it when people pay for Live. It's as simple as that.

lol, i remember the last time this came up there was an axe body spray commercial that you could not turn off scrolling across the top right of the xmb and the ps3 guys were all.

"but that's different cuz it's just words!"

you may as well save your breath because when it comes to sony doing the same thing it never counts because of reason "X".

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"]

Wait... hold on! There are ads?

Seriously though... as you've shown in your pictures, the ads aren't even "in your face" like a popup window on the PC. It's odd that people have problems with ads anyways. I've said in another thread, advertisements are everywhere - PS3 users are choosing to point out that they are on the 360, for some reason. They are literally EVERYWHERE. Internet, TV, bus stops, buses, billboards, radio, Xbox, PS3, Hulu, Youtube, Gamespot..... you can't go a day without seeing an advertisement for something - if you did, there wouldn't be a company left that was making a profit. They spend the money on ads because people buy their stuff when they see it.

With Adblock for Chrome, I haven't seen an ad on the Internet in a very, very long time.

Maybe not a popup ad, but I guarantee you still see ads along the borders of pages/banners, whether you're going to admit it or not - they're there.Thuganomic05

I encourage anyone who uses Firefox / Chrome to immediately install adblock.

Not only does it block all popup ads, it blocks any kind of within-the-webpage ad, whether along the borders of pages, or as the background of the page.

It even blocks every YouTube ad!

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="AncientDozer"] YOU. ARE. STILL. PAYING. AND. YOU. ARE. STILL. SEEING. ADS. God. It doesn't MATTER where the money goes; it's still happening. You are still giving up money to see an event/show/whatever and you're still seeing advertisement. At THEATRES I pay an absurd amount of money and the little pamphlets they pass out are riddled with advertisements.AncientDozer

oh, this was my point! The consumer does pay a price, this is given. But with xbox live, it's literally pure proffit on what they're alrelady making mony on. A movie theater isn't like that. They make money on the ads and food. That's it.

[QUOTE="AncientDozer"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

No, you pay for the cable service and the hardware.

With premium channels like HBO, you get ad-free content because you pay them a subscription.

The same should be true with Microsoft.

The fact is: we're just not used to advertisements in video games.

I know the overwhelming majority of this board embraces it as a "fact of life" but I still disagree.

Nintendo isn't doing it.

Sony does it as well, but Sony DOESN'T CHARGE for PSN.

Therefore, Microsoft shouldn't do it when people pay for Live. It's as simple as that.

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

With Adblock for Chrome, I haven't seen an ad on the Internet in a very, very long time.

AncientDozer

Yep! I don't see any such thing!

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"]Maybe not a popup ad, but I guarantee you still see ads along the borders of pages/banners, whether you're going to admit it or not - they're there.peterw007

I encourage anyone who uses Firefox / Chrome to immediately install adblock.

Not only does it block all popup ads, it blocks any kind of within-the-webpage ad, whether along the borders of pages, or as the background of the page.

It even blocks every YouTube ad!

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"]Maybe not a popup ad, but I guarantee you still see ads along the borders of pages/banners, whether you're going to admit it or not - they're there.Thuganomic05

I encourage anyone who uses Firefox / Chrome to immediately install adblock.

Not only does it block all popup ads, it blocks any kind of within-the-webpage ad, whether along the borders of pages, or as the background of the page.

It even blocks every YouTube ad!

You don't pay to drive on a road or listen to a radio. If you pay for radio, there is no commercials (unless this has been changed?)

Again, television is completely different as the shows themselves need the ads in order to strive. No ads, no shows. Simple.

You're not paying for the shows.

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

With Adblock for Chrome, I haven't seen an ad on the Internet in a very, very long time.

AncientDozer

when you think about how Ads work, than probably very little of money is made from the ads on Xbox live

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

I encourage anyone who uses Firefox / Chrome to immediately install adblock.

Not only does it block all popup ads, it blocks any kind of within-the-webpage ad, whether along the borders of pages, or as the background of the page.

It even blocks every YouTube ad!

Chutebox

You don't pay to drive on a road or listen to a radio. If you pay for radio, there is no commercials (unless this has been changed?)

Again, television is completely different as the shows themselves need the ads in order to strive. No ads, no shows. Simple.

You're not paying for the shows.

Youtube has ads? omg...

thank god for adblock plus :shock:

Youtube has ads? omg...

thank god for adblock plus :shock:

FashionFreak

if you took away the ads, you wouldn't be able to access youtube

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

I encourage anyone who uses Firefox / Chrome to immediately install adblock.

Not only does it block all popup ads, it blocks any kind of within-the-webpage ad, whether along the borders of pages, or as the background of the page.

It even blocks every YouTube ad!

You don't pay to drive on a road or listen to a radio. If you pay for radio, there is no commercials (unless this has been changed?)

Again, television is completely different as the shows themselves need the ads in order to strive. No ads, no shows. Simple.

You're not paying for the shows.

You know, usually when I pay for some sort of "Premium" service, I get the option to you know....Remove the Ads.

Xbox no I don't, I still get them.

If they're relevent like say "Thor is now avalible on the Zune Marketplace" I could be like "Oh cool, I can buy it now and watch it!" and I would. But to see something like "AXE SUPER SECENTED BODY WASH FOR MEN IS AMAZING!" doesn't protain to my Xbox. I can I buy a bottle of Axe though my Xbox? No. Oh wait! Niassan has a New Car out! Awesome! Can I buy the Car through the Xbox? No? Dang.

It's stuff like that that makes no darn sense and really has no business being on my Video Game Systems.

Youtube has ads? omg...

thank god for adblock plus :shock:

FashionFreak

Ads before videos are the worst. I just want to pause the video and let it buffer, but no, I have to let a stupid ad buffer and play before watching.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"] Okay, so you don't see ads on the Internet. Do you watch television? Commericials. Do you drive on a road? Billboards. Do you listen to the radio? Commercials. Do you read the newspaper/magazines? Ads.Thuganomic05

You don't pay to drive on a road or listen to a radio. If you pay for radio, there is no commercials (unless this has been changed?)

Again, television is completely different as the shows themselves need the ads in order to strive. No ads, no shows. Simple.

You're not paying for the shows.

[QUOTE="FashionFreak"]

Youtube has ads? omg...

thank god for adblock plus :shock:

catfishmoon23

Ads before videos are the worst. I just want to pause the video and let it buffer, but no, I have to let a stupid ad buffer and play before watching.

its funny how people complain about having 3 ads on xbox live, yet they don't complain about the billzion of ads on youtube

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"] Okay, so you don't see ads on the Internet. Do you watch television? Commericials. Do you drive on a road? Billboards. Do you listen to the radio? Commercials. Do you read the newspaper/magazines? Ads.AncientDozer

You don't pay to drive on a road or listen to a radio. If you pay for radio, there is no commercials (unless this has been changed?)

Again, television is completely different as the shows themselves need the ads in order to strive. No ads, no shows. Simple.

You're not paying for the shows.