To people who complain about ads 'cluttering' the dashboard on 360..............

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#201 senses_fail_06
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Asa paying member of the service, I find it offensive. Usually its one or the other I can get free content with ads or I pay for no ads. I understand ads on youtube, I don't pay a nickel for it. Also, your argument about PS3 ads doesn't add up, considering the three things you mentioned (Music, Movies, and NFL Sunday ticket) are available to buy from the PS3. I don't think MS is selling Nissans or slim jims.

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#202 Dawq902
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I agree.The only way I would get mad over this if they start popping up in my games.

Lto_thaG
Same. They are not a problem. Often times the ads are something you would actually want to know about like good deals on arcade games/DLC or $1 XBL month renewal like TC said. None of the ads are obtrusive or obnoxious.
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#203 Led_poison
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Remember that one is free and the other is not

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#204 LOXO7
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They should be bothered. People pay for Live and yet they still see ads. The ads on these systems don't come free. Live is just like GS, if GS where to have a required subscription every year to activate this site. But GS doesn't. Why I wonder...
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#205 LustForSoul
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Never noticed one either.
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#206 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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The xbox 360 menu screen is too cluttered, they should of kept the blade system intact as it's main dashboard. It was simple and easy to access things, it appealed way more to gamers than this adfest.

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#207 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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They should be bothered. People pay for Live and yet they still see ads. The ads on these systems don't come free. Live is just like GS, if GS where to have a required subscription every year to activate this site. But GS doesn't. Why I wonder...LOXO7
Why should people be bothered for something that (this is gonna sound funny) doesn't bother them?
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#208 clone01
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They should be bothered. People pay for Live and yet they still see ads. The ads on these systems don't come free. Live is just like GS, if GS where to have a required subscription every year to activate this site. But GS doesn't. Why I wonder...LOXO7
People pay for sporting events, concerts, etc. and still see ads. I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
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#209 Cruxis27
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

Seriously. Ads before videos (on any site, including Gamespot :P) are much worse than ads I've encountered on any console.

gamer-adam1

Youtube is free. Gamespot is free. PSN is free. Xbox Live Gold isn't. Apparently you guys don't understand this concept.

no you are just not understanding what a ad is.

look at youtube pretty much everything you see on the front page is a advertisment to that video, it is also how people make money from youtube. and also websites get money from amount of traffic, more traffic, more money. everyone wants you to go to there website, think what would happen if no one went to gamespot, would it really be what it is now? now. Xbox Live can't work that way

Free websites make money from ads. Xbox Live makes money from you. Putting ads in a paid subscription is blasphemy, I don't understand why people are trying to say otherwise. Imagine if WoW suddenly had ingame ads, or Netflix.

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#210 CorpusDelecti
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I'm still trying to figure out why so many people are posting, "The only people complaining about the ads on XBL are those idiots who don't own an Xbox!" Does that make any sense? I own every console, and I'm not complaining about the XBL ads due to the fact that I don't use my Xbox... just collects dust. But ever since console gaming hit online capabilities there are always going to be ads somewhere. Back during the Coleco Vision and Atari days, there were no ads because well. Let's face it, there was no online, and scripting a companies ad into a game really wasn't all that huge at the time either. Back in the 80's people figured gaming was just a fad, like guys wearing hot pink and neon greens...
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#211 CorpusDelecti
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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Youtube is free. Gamespot is free. PSN is free. Xbox Live Gold isn't. Apparently you guys don't understand this concept.Cruxis27

no you are just not understanding what a ad is.

look at youtube pretty much everything you see on the front page is a advertisment to that video, it is also how people make money from youtube. and also websites get money from amount of traffic, more traffic, more money. everyone wants you to go to there website, think what would happen if no one went to gamespot, would it really be what it is now? now. Xbox Live can't work that way

Free websites make money from ads. Xbox Live makes money from you. Putting ads in a paid subscription is blasphemy, I don't understand why people are trying to say otherwise. Imagine if WoW suddenly had ingame ads, or Netflix.

Well technically WoW does have ingame ads.... Stupid gold sellers....
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#212 BPoole96
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The ads would bother me because I can barely go 5 minutes throughout the day without ads shoved in my face for things that I don't want to buy. I think having game/movie/music ads since those are primarily used on the system
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#213 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]They should be bothered. People pay for Live and yet they still see ads. The ads on these systems don't come free. Live is just like GS, if GS where to have a required subscription every year to activate this site. But GS doesn't. Why I wonder...IronBass
Why should people be bothered for something that (this is gonna sound funny) doesn't bother them?

Hmm. I guess I'm talking to people that don't bother about money. Write a book. I'd buy it.

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#214 Thuganomic05
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Lol, ads in a subscription plan.

Even more funny is people defending the ads, everyone should be on the same side here.

No what's funny is that people have a problem with ads hidden in the dashboard. The dashboard isn't plastered with ads like everyone makes it out to be - they're deep in the spotlight section and are hardly a problem.
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#215 ccagracing
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I found an ad for Guiness on my xbox tonight, I actually had to scroll over a couple to see it. This was the only add not related to anything not availableon the 360. If Sony would redesign the PSN store layout (UK) I would gladly take a few ads!

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#216 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Lol, ads in a subscription plan.

Even more funny is people defending the ads, everyone should be on the same side here.

No what's funny is that people have a problem with ads hidden in the dashboard. The dashboard isn't plastered with ads like everyone makes it out to be - they're deep in the spotlight section and are hardly a problem.

There are ads for movies and tv shows and phones everywhere.
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#217 skrat_01
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>Pay to play your games online >Get ads anyway There's tons of things wrong with XBLA and how Microsoft manage things on their network, and this is one of them.
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#218 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]>Pay to play your games online >Get ads anyway There's tons of things wrong with XBLA and how Microsoft manage things on their network, and this is one of them.

you're not paying for ad free service. you're paying for a better online experience which they offer. and the ads aren't even noticeable. i couldn't even tell you what ads are on there now because i dont even notice them. its not a big deal, its just a weak argument people want to throw out against live because they have an inferior service.
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#219 YoshiYogurt
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The ads are the first thing that appear when I turn on my xbox. I honestly shouldn't have to see ads when I am paying for a service. When the ps3 is turned on you don't see ads.
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#220 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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You have to actively go out of your way to not view the Spotlight bar, and you'll still fail.

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#221 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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Dashboard 2011 has no Spotlight, but a big rotating ad in the center of every tab.

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#222 godzillavskong
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I agree.The only way I would get mad over this if they start popping up in my games.

Lto_thaG
This is true. I really don't care for them all over the dashboard, but that doesn't seem to happen that often. Once in a while I'll see 2 or three on the dashboard at the same time, but usually it is only one, and they offer something like a free theme, or pic for viewing the ad.
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#223 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Lol, ads in a subscription plan.

Even more funny is people defending the ads, everyone should be on the same side here.

No what's funny is that people have a problem with ads hidden in the dashboard. The dashboard isn't plastered with ads like everyone makes it out to be - they're deep in the spotlight section and are hardly a problem.

I've seen them in the second slot before on the spotlight page. That doesn't sound very deep to me.
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#224 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]>Pay to play your games online >Get ads anyway There's tons of things wrong with XBLA and how Microsoft manage things on their network, and this is one of them.

you're not paying for ad free service. you're paying for a better online experience which they offer. and the ads aren't even noticeable. i couldn't even tell you what ads are on there now because i dont even notice them. its not a big deal, its just a weak argument people want to throw out against live because they have an inferior service.

Is that why the PC has the best online you can get and it's still free?
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#225 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]>Pay to play your games online >Get ads anyway There's tons of things wrong with XBLA and how Microsoft manage things on their network, and this is one of them.

you're not paying for ad free service. you're paying for a better online experience which they offer. and the ads aren't even noticeable. i couldn't even tell you what ads are on there now because i dont even notice them. its not a big deal, its just a weak argument people want to throw out against live because they have an inferior service.

Is that why the PC has the best online you can get and it's still free?

no one cares about PC dude. Im talking about consoles
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#226 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] you're not paying for ad free service. you're paying for a better online experience which they offer. and the ads aren't even noticeable. i couldn't even tell you what ads are on there now because i dont even notice them. its not a big deal, its just a weak argument people want to throw out against live because they have an inferior service.

Is that why the PC has the best online you can get and it's still free?

no one cares about PC dude. Im talking about consoles

So much for your better online experience that costs money. :roll:
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#227 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Is that why the PC has the best online you can get and it's still free?

no one cares about PC dude. Im talking about consoles

So much for your better online experience that costs money. :roll:

the thread is talking about ads on the ps3 and xbox dashboard. no one is talking about PC. we get it, it does everything better, fact of the matter is most people dont care
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#228 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] no one cares about PC dude. Im talking about consoles

So much for your better online experience that costs money. :roll:

the thread is talking about ads on the ps3 and xbox dashboard. no one is talking about PC. we get it, it does everything better, fact of the matter is most people dont care

Most people don't care about the online functions of the 360/PS3 either. This is a gaming forum, get over it.
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#229 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] So much for your better online experience that costs money. :roll:

the thread is talking about ads on the ps3 and xbox dashboard. no one is talking about PC. we get it, it does everything better, fact of the matter is most people dont care

Most people don't care about the online functions of the 360/PS3 either. This is a gaming forum, get over it.

yup and this is a thread about ps3 and 360, no one cares about PC
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#230 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] the thread is talking about ads on the ps3 and xbox dashboard. no one is talking about PC. we get it, it does everything better, fact of the matter is most people dont care

Most people don't care about the online functions of the 360/PS3 either. This is a gaming forum, get over it.

yup and this is a thread about ps3 and 360, no one cares about PC

This is system wars, deal with it. PC is included in all discussion. If you don't like it, go to the 360/PS3 boards.
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#233 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] This is system wars, deal with it. PC is included in all discussion. If you don't like it, go to the 360/PS3 boards.

its just funny how pc gamers always try to force PC into any discussion around here. its like yall are insecure because no one cares about you :lol:

Yeah, we are so insecure because we're on a better platform. :roll: Trolling is against the TOU, you know.

not trolling, just an observation. but if reporting me and getting your little GS points makes you feel better then by all means, report me. i could honestly care less
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#234 Click_Clock
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] This is system wars, deal with it. PC is included in all discussion. If you don't like it, go to the 360/PS3 boards.DragonfireXZ95
its just funny how pc gamers always try to force PC into any discussion around here. its like yall are insecure because no one cares about you :lol:

Yeah, we are so insecure because we're on a better platform. :roll: Trolling is against the TOU, you know.

There are many topics that involve the personal computers/Macs but this particular topic isn't one of them so your comment is irrelevent to the original post. The topic is clearly comparing Xbox 360's and PS3's advertisment and if you don't believe so, go to Page 1.

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#235 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]>Pay to play your games online >Get ads anyway There's tons of things wrong with XBLA and how Microsoft manage things on their network, and this is one of them.

you're not paying for ad free service. you're paying for a better online experience which they offer. and the ads aren't even noticeable. i couldn't even tell you what ads are on there now because i dont even notice them. its not a big deal, its just a weak argument people want to throw out against live because they have an inferior service.

I know you're not and it's still a joke regardless considering you're paying a premium to unlock content in your games you already paid for. Otherwise that's lovely, I still find the ads horribly obtrusive and dislike how an entire bar on the dashboard is filled with ads and promotions; for a service getting heavy revenue the locking out of games features is still inexcusable as far as I'm concerned.
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#236 clone01
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This is system wars, deal with it. PC is included in all discussion. If you don't like it, go to the 360/PS3 boards.DragonfireXZ95
Absolutely, but don't you think its a bit off-topic to bring something into the discussion that wasn't really a part of the TC's argument?
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#237 deactivated-59d151f079814
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It's the principle of the matter.

We PAY MONEY right into Microsoft's wallet for the right to use Xbox Live.

Having any kind of ads...even if relatively unobtrusive, is just an unjust business practice.

Either they rise the costs of subscription, or they offer tiered prices: a "Cheaper with ads," and an "Ad-free" model.

peterw007

:| See I never understood this. The ads are placed in places you would want them to be.. They are in the MARKETplace, music, and videos.. This is like crying about there being too many ads when looking at a Bestbuy paper..

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#238 paradigm68
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Actually, Microsoft likes to consider that stuff "offers" not ads, yet they are always just offers for some crappy gamer-pic or dashboard theme that no-one wants, so they are just ads. :P Also, one can turn off the "What's New" section on the PS3, one can not do that on the 360 EVEN if they are paying for the service.
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#239 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]>Pay to play your games online >Get ads anyway There's tons of things wrong with XBLA and how Microsoft manage things on their network, and this is one of them.DragonfireXZ95
you're not paying for ad free service. you're paying for a better online experience which they offer. and the ads aren't even noticeable. i couldn't even tell you what ads are on there now because i dont even notice them. its not a big deal, its just a weak argument people want to throw out against live because they have an inferior service.

Is that why the PC has the best online you can get and it's still free?

PC gets it free because gamers are willing to spend $1000's each month to keep there games online, and also even games like WoW have had ads on it that have nothing to do with ads, like the mountain dew robots

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#240 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Hmm. I guess I'm talking to people that don't bother about money. Write a book. I'd buy it.LOXO7
What has money to do with anything?
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#241 blabbyboy
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Theres ads everywhere
[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]This is system wars, deal with it. PC is included in all discussion. If you don't like it, go to the 360/PS3 boards.clone01
Absolutely, but don't you think its a bit off-topic to bring something into the discussion that wasn't really a part of the TC's argument?

I agree. Its just like if someone made a thread about which is better Xbox 360 or Ps3? And then someone says the PC is.
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#242 -TheSecondSign-
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All you have to do is not look at them since they're in tiny boxes you have to select to look at and hear.

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#243 Overlord93
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There are ads on the dashboard??? :|

*runs to confirm*

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I myself didn't actually notice until someone pointed it out on here
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#244 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]This is system wars, deal with it. PC is included in all discussion. If you don't like it, go to the 360/PS3 boards.clone01
Absolutely, but don't you think its a bit off-topic to bring something into the discussion that wasn't really a part of the TC's argument?

It's all part of the TC's argument. The PC has an online interface(albeit many) just like the PS3 and 360. It's relevant to the discussion.
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#245 dk00111
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

I agree.The only way I would get mad over this if they start popping up in my games.

StrongDeadlift
This. You have to go out of your way to even see the ad.

This is a totally off topic question, but what's the flying game in OT's sig?
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#246 blabbyboy
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[QUOTE="dk00111"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

I agree.The only way I would get mad over this if they start popping up in my games.

This. You have to go out of your way to even see the ad.

This is a totally off topic question, but what's the flying game in OT's sig?

I believe it is Battlefield 3.
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#247 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="dk00111"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] This. You have to go out of your way to even see the ad. blabbyboy
This is a totally off topic question, but what's the flying game in OT's sig?

I believe it is Battlefield 3.

This. I think I am going to put this in my sig because this is the third person to ask me what game this is.
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#248 peterw007
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[QUOTE="blabbyboy"][QUOTE="dk00111"] This is a totally off topic question, but what's the flying game in OT's sig?StrongDeadlift
I believe it is Battlefield 3.

This. I think I am going to put this in my sig because this is the third person to ask me what game this is.

BF3 looks so realistic that most people mistake that video for being a flight combat sim.

Even I thought it was Ace Combat when I looked at it.

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#249 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="blabbyboy"] I believe it is Battlefield 3.peterw007

This. I think I am going to put this in my sig because this is the third person to ask me what game this is.

BF3 looks so realistic that most people mistake that video for being a flight combat sim.

Even I thought it was Ace Combat when I looked at it.

I think its more, people are use to seeing jets fly 1 feet from the ground >< I know I am, seeing them fit in the sky just looks odd lol

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#250 dk00111
Member since 2007 • 3123 Posts

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="blabbyboy"] I believe it is Battlefield 3.peterw007

This. I think I am going to put this in my sig because this is the third person to ask me what game this is.

BF3 looks so realistic that most people mistake that video for being a flight combat sim.

Even I thought it was Ace Combat when I looked at it.

Wow, I thought it was a flight combat sim too... I can safely say that my hype for B3 has doubled after seeing this...