Top 10 Most Revolutionary First-person Shooters

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And really..what's the point of that question anyway? It will only lead to yet another silly Valve vs Bungie flamewar. People like both because they like their games, that's it, nothing more.

AdrianWerner

Quoting fail? I don't know what you are taking about.. ;)

So if it just comes down to personal preference, whats' the point of even discussing whether or not games are influential? Or, do you just not know how to explain the influence Valve and their Half-Life series has had on the industry?

But since you've asked

And how did Valve influence things? You can see their influences in pretty much every FPS right now, they've pioneered the FPS storytelling, scripted interactive sequences, made modding what it is today, spearheaded the Digital downloads revolution etc.

I also see Bungie's influences on the genre, except unlike Valve's they're all bad and just made the genre worse (I'm confident that for the genre it would be far better if Halo never was made in the first place). I consider Halo to be the most overrated game of last generation personaly and that Bungie didn't make enjoyable game in decade. Well, that's my personal feelings about them only though.

AdrianWerner

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your quoting failed :)

And really..what's the point of that question anyway? It will only lead to yet another silly Valve vs Bungie flamewar. People like both because they like their games, that's it, nothing more.

musicalmac

Quoting fail? I don't know what you are taking about.. ;)

So if it just comes down to personal preference, whats' the point of even discussing whether or not games are influential? Or, do you just not know how to explain the influence Valve and their Half-Life series has had on the industry?

I was too slow with editing my previous post, so I will just repost the part about influence :)

How did Valve influence things? You can see their influences in pretty much every FPS right now, they've pioneered the FPS storytelling, scripted interactive sequences, physics puzzles, made modding what it is today, spearheaded the Digital downloads revolution etc.

I also see Bungie's influences on the genre, except unlike Valve's they're all bad and just made the genre worse (I'm confident that for the genre it would be far better if Halo never was made in the first place). I consider Halo to be the most overrated game of last generation personaly and that Bungie didn't make enjoyable game in decade. Well, that's my personal feelings about them only though.

I was hoping for specific examples. And storytelling? I laughed out loud... :lol:musicalmac

List (no order) - Halo 1, Half-Life 2, COD4, Quake, Deus Ex, Counter-Strike , GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Wolfenstein 3D, and Doom.

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But since you've asked

And how did Valve influence things? You can see their influences in pretty much every FPS right now, they've pioneered the FPS storytelling, scripted interactive sequences, made modding what it is today, spearheaded the Digital downloads revolution etc.

I also see Bungie's influences on the genre, except unlike Valve's they're all bad and just made the genre worse (I'm confident that for the genre it would be far better if Halo never was made in the first place). I consider Halo to be the most overrated game of last generation personaly and that Bungie didn't make enjoyable game in decade. Well, that's my personal feelings about them only though.

musicalmac

I'm not a fan of the Half-Life series, but I have to agree with AdrianWerner on this one. The way Half-Life engrossed the player in 1998 was revolutionary for the first-person shooter genre. :?

I'm not a fan of the Half-Life series, but I have to agree with AdrianWerner on this one. The way Half-Life engrossed the player in 1998 was revolutionary for the first-person shooter genre. :?

Propaganda_

That's fair, I just don't feel the same way. I never felt particularly engrossed, because I never felt a sense of purpose when playing any of the Half-Life games. I always felt that with games like Halo. If you want engrossing, I think Unreal is nearly as good as it gets (the original). Even now it's engrossing.musicalmac

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]That's fair, I just don't feel the same way. I never felt particularly engrossed, because I never felt a sense of purpose when playing any of the Half-Life games. I always felt that with games like Halo. If you want engrossing, I think Unreal is nearly as good as it gets (the original). Even now it's engrossing.AdrianWerner

What's wrong with that? :lol: It's more epic than Half-Life's.

What's wrong with that? :lol: It's more epic than Half-Life's.

Propaganda_

Plus not only it had weak story (that's not so bad, majority of FPSes, including orignal Half-life have weak storylines), but unlike HL1 the storytelling was also very bad.

I could aprecieate the MP, but SP was just plain bad to me

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]That's fair, I just don't feel the same way. I never felt particularly engrossed, because I never felt a sense of purpose when playing any of the Half-Life games. I always felt that with games like Halo. If you want engrossing, I think Unreal is nearly as good as it gets (the original). Even now it's engrossing.AdrianWerner