Two Worlds 2's developer: PC and PS3 have a little bit more power

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#1 dragonboot
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Often times, it is not in the interests of 3rd party developers to say the PS3 is a more poweful console because they don't want to offend the larger 360 install base. That would be like biting the hands that feed you. Times may have changed now as the PS3 keeps producing graphics kings after graphics kings. I applaud Two Worlds 2's develolper Reality Pump Studios for stating what is obvious for most but the passionate few:

"You can see the game itself is a little tailored towards each platform, obviously," he said. "For example, the PC and the PS3, just based on the nature of the machines, have a little bit more power when it comes to graphical fidelity and things like that. So we're able to ramp it up a little higher."


I think we should end the graphics/console power debate already. The PS3 has won. Those of you who still think the 360 is equal to the PS3, please consider, as I had written in another thread, the following:

We can all have our own opinions and reasons. The facts, however, favor those who believe the PS3 is a more powerful console. The professionals who say the PS3 is more powerful have given us Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, and God of War 3, etc., with more to come. The professionals who claim the 360 is equal to the PS3, have produced nothing--NOTHING in 5 years!--that equals to the PS3's best.

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The PC has a little more power?

Doesn't he mean alot more power?

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" the PC and the PS3, just based on the nature of the machines, have a little bit more power" Maybe a little for the PS3, but for the PC? HA. :P
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#4 dragonboot
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The PC has a little more power?

Doesn't he mean alot more power?

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Well, according to Michael Pachter who analyzes the video game industry for a living, says the PS3 is more powerful than 90% of the PCs while the 360 is only more powerful than 85% of the PCs.
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#5 SaltyMeatballs
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The link you said also states 360 version will run smoother.
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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

The PC has a little more power?

Doesn't he mean alot more power?

dragonboot

Well, according to Michael Pachter who analyzes the video game industry for a living, says the PS3 is more powerful than 90% of the PCs while the 360 is only more powerful than 85% of the PCs.

Was he taking the whole PC userbase into consideration, or just the gaming section?

There's estimated to be over 1 billion PC's in use around the world.

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#7 SolidTy
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This claim is simply unpossible...

I was going to buy their game (Two Worlds 2 : For Real) for 360, but now I might not also.

You don't talk crap about my family or my consoles...or I won't give you money.

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#8 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

The PC has a little more power?

Doesn't he mean alot more power?

dragonboot
Well, according to Michael Pachter who analyzes the video game industry for a living, says the PS3 is more powerful than 90% of the PCs while the 360 is only more powerful than 85% of the PCs.

Michael Pachter has also said: "I have long been baffled as to why RTS games don't work on consoles. I think it is partly because of the nature of the gameplay, it's single-player and it's turn-based." "EA will buy Take Two" "PS3 will outsell Xbox 360 by the end of 2008" "There is a Wii HD in 2010, it's just called PS3 with Move." Sorry if I don't take anything that Pachter says seriously anymore. :P
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#9 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="dragonboot"][QUOTE="Snagal123"]

The PC has a little more power?

Doesn't he mean alot more power?

lundy86_4

Well, according to Michael Pachter who analyzes the video game industry for a living, says the PS3 is more powerful than 90% of the PCs while the 360 is only more powerful than 85% of the PCs.

Was he taking the whole PC userbase into consideration, or just the gaming section?

There's estimated to be over 1 billion PC's in use around the world.

Hopefully he meant the whole population. But being the ignorant person he is (Michael Pachter), he probably meant 90% of gaming rigs.
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The link you said also states 360 version will run smoother.SaltyMeatballs
I will probably run a little smoother. I can agree. However, the most important point in Systems Wars is what the link states: PS3 is a bit more powerful than the 360.
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Hopefully he meant the whole population. But being the ignorant person he is (Michael Pachter), he probably meant 90% of gaming rigs.SaltyMeatballs

Cool. I wouldn't be surprised with that guy.

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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

The PC has a little more power?

Doesn't he mean alot more power?

dragonboot

Well, according to Michael Pachter who analyzes the video game industry for a living, says the PS3 is more powerful than 90% of the PCs while the 360 is only more powerful than 85% of the PCs.

system wars doesnt really care what patcher says most of the time.

and the graphics won't mean anything to me if the game play isn't good.

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PC only has a little more power? wat?
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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

The PC has a little more power?

Doesn't he mean alot more power?

dragonboot

Well, according to Michael Pachter who analyzes the video game industry for a living, says the PS3 is more powerful than 90% of the PCs while the 360 is only more powerful than 85% of the PCs.

The words he used in the Bonus Round was "no one owns a PC thats more powerful than a PS3"

The guy hasn't a clue what hes talking about.

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] Hopefully he meant the whole population. But being the ignorant person he is (Michael Pachter), he probably meant 90% of gaming rigs.lundy86_4

Cool. I wouldn't be surprised with that guy.

If it doesn't pack more power than the PS3 it's not a gaming rig anymore, it's a relic.
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]The link you said also states 360 version will run smoother.dragonboot
I will probably run a little smoother. I can agree. However, the most important point in Systems Wars is what the link states: PS3 is a bit more powerful than the 360.

Well if it was, couldn't it run AS smooth whilst looking better? Sounds like excuse for PS3 owners when they get some crappy framerates.
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If it doesn't pack more power than the PS3 it's not a gaming rig anymore, it's a relic.GeneralShowzer

Well it could be a gaming rig for really old games :P

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Yeah, they really showed their programming prowess when they showcased the first Two Worlds! I'll take an opinion of a well established developer over theirs anyday.

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Hey, they can use that extra power to ensure their games aren't a complete mess!

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Be hilarious if it ends up looking better on 360 over PS3 :P
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Hey, they can use that extra power to ensure their games aren't a complete mess!

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Yeah, they really showed their programming prowess when they showcased the first Two Worlds! I'll take an opinion of a well established developer over theirs anyday.

godzillavskong
The problem for Xbox 360 is that none of the established developers have created anything on Xbox 360 that can compete with Killzone 2 in graphics, released more than a year ago on the PS3.
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Be hilarious if it ends up looking better on 360 over PS3 :PRavensmash

really? itd be hilarious if the ps3 version looks better than on a machine thats "smoother' and "easier to work with" - whatever smoother means

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:cry: "bu...but, they are equal" screamed the 360 fanboys in desperation citing random unrealed multiplatform games using PC shots and gifs as proof.

*grabs the popcorn and wait's for the impending 20 plus page carnage to unfold*

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Often times, it is not in the interests of 3rd party developers to say the PS3 is a more poweful console because they don't want to offend the larger 360 install base. That would be like biting the hands that feed you. Times may have changed now as the PS3 keeps producing graphics kings after graphics kings. I applaud Two Worlds 2's develolper Reality Pump Studios for stating what is obvious for most but the passionate few:

"You can see the game itself is a little tailored towards each platform, obviously," he said. "For example, the PC and the PS3, just based on the nature of the machines, have a little bit more power when it comes to graphical fidelity and things like that. So we're able to ramp it up a little higher."


I think we should end the graphics/console power debate already. The PS3 has won. Those of you who still think the 360 is equal to the PS3, please consider, as I had written in another thread, the following:

We can all have our own opinions and reasons. The facts, however, favor those who believe the PS3 is a more powerful console. The professionals who say the PS3 is more powerful have given us Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, and God of War 3, etc., with more to come. The professionals who claim the 360 is equal to the PS3, have produced nothing--NOTHING in 5 years!--that equals to the PS3's best.

dragonboot

The 360 is now equal to the PS3. Now that it changed its color to black, and had Wi Fi built in, they're basically identical!

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[QUOTE="dragonboot"][QUOTE="Snagal123"]

The PC has a little more power?

Doesn't he mean alot more power?

lundy86_4

Well, according to Michael Pachter who analyzes the video game industry for a living, says the PS3 is more powerful than 90% of the PCs while the 360 is only more powerful than 85% of the PCs.

Was he taking the whole PC userbase into consideration, or just the gaming section?

There's estimated to be over 1 billion PC's in use around the world.

I remember reading that and I believe it was just PC's in general, not necessarily ones optimized for gaming

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Even if the PS3 did have a little more power, whey can't most third party devs make their games on par with the 360? Why are the exclusives so much better on the 360? You can keep your "little bit of power" and I'll keep my better games.
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Didn't John Carmack say they were equal? And didn't Crytek say 360 was better in some areas and PS3 in others ? Yeah, this kind of reaffirms my belief that they are pretty equal/close overall.
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He's just doing pre-damage control of the fact that the 360 version runs better. ;)
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[QUOTE="dragonboot"]

Often times, it is not in the interests of 3rd party developers to say the PS3 is a more poweful console because they don't want to offend the larger 360 install base. That would be like biting the hands that feed you. Times may have changed now as the PS3 keeps producing graphics kings after graphics kings. I applaud Two Worlds 2's develolper Reality Pump Studios for stating what is obvious for most but the passionate few:

"You can see the game itself is a little tailored towards each platform, obviously," he said. "For example, the PC and the PS3, just based on the nature of the machines, have a little bit more power when it comes to graphical fidelity and things like that. So we're able to ramp it up a little higher."


I think we should end the graphics/console power debate already. The PS3 has won. Those of you who still think the 360 is equal to the PS3, please consider, as I had written in another thread, the following:

We can all have our own opinions and reasons. The facts, however, favor those who believe the PS3 is a more powerful console. The professionals who say the PS3 is more powerful have given us Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, and God of War 3, etc., with more to come. The professionals who claim the 360 is equal to the PS3, have produced nothing--NOTHING in 5 years!--that equals to the PS3's best.

godzillavskong

The 360 is now equal to the PS3. Now that it changed its color to black, and had Wi Fi built in, they're basically identical!

With your ability to find loop holes, you could be a good lawyer.

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The game will probably suck.
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No PC has more than a little bit more power. As for the PS3 part I always thought PS3 had a bit more power myself, but they're are such conflicting claims over the internet I don't know who to believe.
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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

The PC has a little more power?

Doesn't he mean alot more power?

dragonboot

Well, according to Michael Pachter who analyzes the video game industry for a living, says the PS3 is more powerful than 90% of the PCs while the 360 is only more powerful than 85% of the PCs.

10 percent of PC's ~300 million annual(yearly) unit sales is ~30 million.

15 percent of PC's ~300 million annual(yearly) unit sales is ~45 million.

The percentage would be higher with arrival AMD's Llano in 2011i.e. forced bundling high clockrate 480 stream processors ATI Radeon HD 57X0** type GPU with the CPU. **+1 TFlops programmable not including it's fix functions.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Didn't John Carmack say they were equal? And didn't Crytek say 360 was better in some areas and PS3 in others ? Yeah, this kind of reaffirms my belief that they are pretty equal/close overall.

But if they are equal, that means early PS3 owners bought a box of hyped graphics. :o Can't have that now, can we? Even with all the investment into graphics, PS3 exclusives have NOT looked like they were not possible on the 360, even 360 exclusives in the future match them.
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Didn't John Carmack say they were equal? And didn't Crytek say 360 was better in some areas and PS3 in others ? Yeah, this kind of reaffirms my belief that they are pretty equal/close overall.

LOL. "pretty equal/close overall"? Is it so hard for you to just admit that the PS3 is only a little bit more powerful? Has John Carmack and Crytek released any game on Xbox 360 that can match the PS3's best?
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So now SouthPeak/Reality Pump are credible devs? :P
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No PC has more than a little bit more power. As for the PS3 part I always thought PS3 had a bit more power myself, but they're are such conflicting claims over the internet I don't know who to believe.FIipMode

Believe me....forget everyone else.

The answer is quite simple.

I like Turtles.

Real answer? Who can say, lol.

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He's just doing pre-damage control of the fact that the 360 version runs better. ;)The_RedLion

You mean like Dragon Age Origons?

PS3 version 9.0> xbox360 version 8.5 confirmed???

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Its almost like Nfusion, the devs behind Hour of Victory, saying that the PS3 is more powerful. I'd take the criticism better from a well established 3rd party dev. Does anyone know what other titles these guys behind Two Worlds produced? Just curious.

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[QUOTE="dragonboot"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Didn't John Carmack say they were equal? And didn't Crytek say 360 was better in some areas and PS3 in others ? Yeah, this kind of reaffirms my belief that they are pretty equal/close overall.

LOL. "pretty equal/close overall"? Is it so hard for you to just admit that the PS3 is only a little bit more powerful? Has John Carmack and Crytek released any game on Xbox 360 that can match the PS3's best?

It's not hard for me to admit at all, I'm not insecure about a material object : \ However, there hasn't been anything really on PS3 that couldn't technically be matched on 360 - just because it hasn't, doesn't mean it can't. I tend to take experienced developers (e.g. Carmack and his understanding of hardware) as valid people to believe claims/opinions from as well. Besides, 360 games in the future (Crysis 2, Gears 3, Rage) do potentially match the PS3's best.
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You mean like Dragon Age Origons?

PS3 version 9.0> xbox360 version 8.5 confirmed???

hard_body79

No, I mean like Bayonetta :D

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Didn't John Carmack say they were equal? And didn't Crytek say 360 was better in some areas and PS3 in others ? Yeah, this kind of reaffirms my belief that they are pretty equal/close overall.Ravensmash

:lol: No he didn't

he said PS3 had more peak power as well but he liked xbox360 because it was simular to PC and had tools that made it easier for him to work with.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Didn't John Carmack say they were equal? And didn't Crytek say 360 was better in some areas and PS3 in others ? Yeah, this kind of reaffirms my belief that they are pretty equal/close overall.SaltyMeatballs
But if they are equal, that means early PS3 owners bought a box of hyped graphics. :o Can't have that now, can we? Even with all the investment into graphics, PS3 exclusives have NOT looked like they were not possible on the 360, even 360 exclusives in the future match them.

wow, imagine that, 3rd parties actually making an effort to make both games look equal instead of giving us these lame outsourced ps3 ports from korea

and future game matching current games that have been out for anywhere from half a year to 2 years once they release? imagine that

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Didn't John Carmack say they were equal? And didn't Crytek say 360 was better in some areas and PS3 in others ? Yeah, this kind of reaffirms my belief that they are pretty equal/close overall.

But if they are equal, that means early PS3 owners bought a box of hyped graphics. :o Can't have that now, can we? Even with all the investment into graphics, PS3 exclusives have NOT looked like they were not possible on the 360, even 360 exclusives in the future match them.

I bought the PS3 because it I believed it was the more powerful console that would be more future proof than the 360. I am not disappointed at all. I get to play the console graphics kings, watch Blu-ray Movies, and soon experience 3D games and 3D movies. If I were to buy the 360, I would be disappointed in its reliability and its failure to keep up with the times (Blu-ray movies and 3D games and 3D movies).
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Didn't John Carmack say they were equal? And didn't Crytek say 360 was better in some areas and PS3 in others ? Yeah, this kind of reaffirms my belief that they are pretty equal/close overall.

But if they are equal, that means early PS3 owners bought a box of hyped graphics. :o Can't have that now, can we? Even with all the investment into graphics, PS3 exclusives have NOT looked like they were not possible on the 360, even 360 exclusives in the future match them.

Agreed. While the PS3 may have a couple of titles that look a bit better than anything I've seen on the 360, with UC2 and Killzone 2, they don't really blow me away, or make me feel that the 360 couldn't produce the same. I will admit, that the PS3 is starting to stretch it's processing legs, but until there are games released for it that make feel my Xbox is outdated, then I may put down my 360 controller, and pick up my PS3s.
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]No PC has more than a little bit more power. As for the PS3 part I always thought PS3 had a bit more power myself, but they're are such conflicting claims over the internet I don't know who to believe.SolidTy

Believe me....forget everyone else.

The answer is quite simple.

I like Turtles.

Real answer? Who can say, lol.

http://www.salon.com/entertainment/movies/review/2002/08/02/master_disguise/story.jpg

I do too, but sea turtles > land turtles.

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#47 ronvalencia
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No PC has more than a little bit more power. As for the PS3 part I always thought PS3 had a bit more power myself, but they're are such conflicting claims over the internet I don't know who to believe.FIipMode
On Xbox 360 vs PS3, it depends on the workload.

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#48 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Didn't John Carmack say they were equal? And didn't Crytek say 360 was better in some areas and PS3 in others ? Yeah, this kind of reaffirms my belief that they are pretty equal/close overall.hard_body79

:lol: No he didn't

he said PS3 had more peak power as well but he liked xbox360 because it was simular to PC and had tools that made it easier for him to work with.

I don't know why you're laughing at me. http://beyond3d.com/content/news/751 Seems like both have advantages and disadvantages.
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i guess that settles it lems said they needed someone not on sonys payroll and exclusive to sony to say it and they do wonder what the excuse is now
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That's an interesting claim. I wonder how it will traduce in the actual game. The 360 version running smoother while the PS3 looking better does not say much about a difference of power.