Uncharted 2 WON'T get a 10 on Gamespot...

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#1 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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If it does, then I shall leave these forums and never return.

Seriously, I'm not saying it won't be a good game. It will be. Hell, it's on the the top of my Most Anticipated List right now. But my problem is with the fanboys who make it out to be like the second coming of Christ. Thos people who seriously believe that Uncharted 2 is the Next Big Thing in gaming. Come on, people, wake up, get real. Uncharted 2 is an evolution, not a revolution. It refines and smoothes out age old concepts, but it does ABSOLUTELY nothing to warrant a 10.

I still think it'll get a 9.0- 9.5. I have no doubt that it'll be a great game, possibly one of the highlights of this generation. However, this is just a reminder for those blinded by their fanboyism that Uncharted 2 really does not, and will not ever, deserve a 10.

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It would be a epic battle.

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#3 Cherokee_Jack
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If it gets a 10 I will eat my hat.

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#4 salxis
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Really depends on who's gonna review it I think. If it's Tom McShea doing it, probably get a 10, but if Justin, Kevin reviewed it probably 8.5~9.5 (But then again, Justin gave GTA4 a 10) Kevin would probably complain about the "enemy AI" "battle too hard" "plentiful of enemies made firefight hard" etc... I hope he doesn't though
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I don't know how it will score but if it scores less than AAA it shall be considered a massive flop.

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If it gets a 10 I will eat my hat.

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You might just have to. If it gets a 10, then, so long people, it was nice knowing ya all!
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...I will eat my hat.Cherokee_Jack
A editor from gs already did that. :P But on topic, I think it will be in the 9.0 or higher range, just as you mentioned in the OP.
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#8 Floppy_Jim
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No one is really saying 10/10 or next coming of Christ though, you're the one saying that. The hype was established as 9-9.5 long ago.
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#9 zarshack
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GS will give it a 10 now just to smite you.

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GTAIV and MGS4 thought me to keep my mouth shout.
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GTAIV and MGS4 thought me to keep my mouth shout.IronBass
3 10s in 2 years is pushing it.
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No one is really saying 10/10 or next coming of Christ though, you're the one saying that. The hype was established as 9-9.5 long ago.Floppy_Jim
There are fanboys who are. Seriously, it's sickening.

GS will give it a 10 now just to smite you.

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No... they can't be so spiteful... can they? :|
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]No one is really saying 10/10 or next coming of Christ though, you're the one saying that. The hype was established as 9-9.5 long ago.charizard1605
There are fanboys who are.

Around here, we call those "trolls".
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3 10s in 2 years is pushing it.Cherokee_Jack
2 10's in one month was pushing it. >_>
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The thing that's bugging me about the immense hype surrounding this game is: the original Uncharted only got an 8.0 here. Is the addition of multiplayer and a couple of tweaks to the formula really going to improve the sequel THAT much? I somehow doubt it.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]No one is really saying 10/10 or next coming of Christ though, you're the one saying that. The hype was established as 9-9.5 long ago.Cherokee_Jack
There are fanboys who are.

Around here, we call those "trolls".

Trolls, then. They've almost managed to tarnish my personal anticipation for the game.
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]3 10s in 2 years is pushing it.IronBass
2 10's in one month was pushing it. >_>

Those were 2 pretty serious games from series that had scored close to 10 here before.
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]No one is really saying 10/10 or next coming of Christ though, you're the one saying that. The hype was established as 9-9.5 long ago.charizard1605
There are fanboys who are. Seriously, it's sickening.

There are people saying it will score 10 and be the second coming of Christ? How many? Do you have any links?

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The thing that's bugging me about the immense hype surrounding this game is: the original Uncharted only got an 8.0 here. Is the addition of multiplayer and a couple of tweaks to the formula really going to improve the sequel THAT much? I somehow doubt it.

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Uncharted is almost AAA in GR (89%), which means that GS scored it lower than the average. But that rating shows that a lot of reviewers thought the first one was AAA material. Chances are, that a different reviewer will give the superior sequel an AAA score.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]No one is really saying 10/10 or next coming of Christ though, you're the one saying that. The hype was established as 9-9.5 long ago.Floppy_Jim

There are fanboys who are. Seriously, it's sickening.

There are people saying it will score 10 and be the second coming of Christ? How many? Do you have any links?

Pfft man, the Second coming of Christ is an expression I'm using to convey how much it's being hypoed. But yes, there ARE fanboys hyping it AAAAE. Just check ANY Uncharted 2 thread, barring this one.
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It will get a 9.5 that's certain.

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Those were 2 pretty serious games from series that had scored close to 10 here before.Cherokee_Jack
Still it was very unlikely. I don't think U2 will get a 10, I'm just saying it's not that unlikely.
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It will get a 9.5 that's certain.

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I have no problems with that. Seriously, a 9.5 would be perfect. A 10 would be the concession that graphics matter over gameplay.
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#24 Cherokee_Jack
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It will get a 9.5 that's certain.

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No, it will probably get a 9.0
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] There are fanboys who are. Seriously, it's sickening.charizard1605

There are people saying it will score 10 and be the second coming of Christ? How many? Do you have any links?

Pfft man, the Second coming of Christ is an expression I'm using to convey how much it's being hypoed. But yes, there ARE fanboys hyping it AAAAE. Just check ANY Uncharted 2 thread, barring this one.

Oh, so you were exaggerating. My bad, I do that a lot too. In the hype threads I usually see the same 2-3 well known PS3 fanboys hyping 10, everyone else says 9. So was this thread just made for the sake of a very small handful of fanboys? The majority of posters here still say 9-9.5.

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won't get a ten for the simple fact of GS throwing out enough tens to begin with. Even tho it might deserve it.

The thing that's bugging me about the immense hype surrounding this game is: the original Uncharted only got an 8.0 here. Is the addition of multiplayer and a couple of tweaks to the formula really going to improve the sequel THAT much? I somehow doubt it.

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Its considered AAA by many. The story/characters/animations and sheer fun the game offers is what gets many talking about it..its pure fun. U2 is U1 on steriods apparently. More than just little tweaks. Doesn't STORY count these days?
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

There are people saying it will score 10 and be the second coming of Christ? How many? Do you have any links?

Pfft man, the Second coming of Christ is an expression I'm using to convey how much it's being hypoed. But yes, there ARE fanboys hyping it AAAAE. Just check ANY Uncharted 2 thread, barring this one.

Oh, so you were exaggerating. My bad, I do that a lot too. In the hype threads I usually see the same 2-3 well known PS3 fanboys hyping 10, everyone else says 9. So was this thread just made for the sake of a very small handful of fanboys? The majority of posters here still say 9-9.5.

Basically, I was hyperventilating. I mean, ok, there are a couple of people hyping this to the moon. You know what gets to me...? They may be right... what if GS DOES score it a 10? They've done that before. Their review system has been fundamentally broken since 2007. What if it does get a 10? What do we have then? A concession to the fact that graphics matter more than gameplay?
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Pfft man, the Second coming of Christ is an expression I'm using to convey how much it's being hypoed. But yes, there ARE fanboys hyping it AAAAE. Just check ANY Uncharted 2 thread, barring this one.charizard1605

Oh, so you were exaggerating. My bad, I do that a lot too. In the hype threads I usually see the same 2-3 well known PS3 fanboys hyping 10, everyone else says 9. So was this thread just made for the sake of a very small handful of fanboys? The majority of posters here still say 9-9.5.

Basically, I was hyperventilating. I mean, ok, there are a couple of people hyping this to the moon. You know what gets to me...? They may be right... what if GS DOES score it a 10? They've done that before. Their review system has been fundamentally broken since 2007. What if it does get a 10? What do we have then? A concession to the fact that graphics matter more than gameplay?

U 2 looks to kick ass in both areas though. It's not going to happen but I think it would be more deserving of the score than GTA 4 was.
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[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]

The thing that's bugging me about the immense hype surrounding this game is: the original Uncharted only got an 8.0 here. Is the addition of multiplayer and a couple of tweaks to the formula really going to improve the sequel THAT much? I somehow doubt it.

Sniper-PIG

Its considered AAA by many. The story/characters/animations and sheer fun the game offers is what gets many talking about it..its pure fun. U2 is U1 on steriods apparently. More than just little tweaks. Doesn't STORY count these days?

The first Uncharted's story was fairly cliché and by-the-numbers. I'm really doubting Uncharted 2's story is it's main selling point. Uncharted certainly was a fun game, but it didn't do anything to stand out. I'm getting pretty sick of gaming journalists giving high scores out like candy to games that do nothing to break the mould.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

Oh, so you were exaggerating. My bad, I do that a lot too. In the hype threads I usually see the same 2-3 well known PS3 fanboys hyping 10, everyone else says 9. So was this thread just made for the sake of a very small handful of fanboys? The majority of posters here still say 9-9.5.

Floppy_Jim

Basically, I was hyperventilating. I mean, ok, there are a couple of people hyping this to the moon. You know what gets to me...? They may be right... what if GS DOES score it a 10? They've done that before. Their review system has been fundamentally broken since 2007. What if it does get a 10? What do we have then? A concession to the fact that graphics matter more than gameplay?

U 2 looks to kick ass in both areas though. It's not going to happen but I think it would be more deserving of the score than GTA 4 was.

Yes. like I said, it looks great. But it definitely does not warrant a 10 at all. In fact, no game this generation has actually warranted a 10. Uncharted 2 would be as undeserving as GTA IV and MGS 4 were. All three of them great games. Just not 'Perfect,' which is what a game needs to be to get a '10.'

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i dunno what all the hype is about. this game really doesn't catch my interest and i love shooter/adventure games. maybe i just gotta play the first? i don't really get hyped about super hyped games like mgs4 or gta4. i got gta4, it was fun, i'd give it an 8 but it's not my type of game really. mgs4 i haven't tried yet which stuns me cause i loved the other ones.

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Basically, I was hyperventilating. I mean, ok, there are a couple of people hyping this to the moon. You know what gets to me...? They may be right... what if GS DOES score it a 10? They've done that before. Their review system has been fundamentally broken since 2007. What if it does get a 10? What do we have then? A concession to the fact that graphics matter more than gameplay?charizard1605

U 2 looks to kick ass in both areas though. It's not going to happen but I think it would be more deserving of the score than GTA 4 was.

Yes. like I said, it looks great. But it definitely does not warrant a 10 at all. In fact, no game this generation has actually warranted a 10. Uncharted 2 would be as undeserving as GTA IV and MGS 4 were. All three of them great games. Just not 'Perfect,' which is what a game needs to be to get a '10.'

Isn't the new 10 subbed as "prime" ? Not perfect? People really need to read the letters below the score
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] There are fanboys who are. Seriously, it's sickening.charizard1605

There are people saying it will score 10 and be the second coming of Christ? How many? Do you have any links?

Pfft man, the Second coming of Christ is an expression I'm using to convey how much it's being hypoed. But yes, there ARE fanboys hyping it AAAAE. Just check ANY Uncharted 2 thread, barring this one.

there's always fanbois hyping games like this to heaven. Sounds to me like you're annoyed it's apparently really good.

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Just not 'Perfect,' which is what a game needs to be to get a '10.'charizard1605
Well, 10 isn't "Perfect". But it's not surprising that you wouldn't know that after being here for only 3 years.
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[QUOTE="salxis"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]

U 2 looks to kick ass in both areas though. It's not going to happen but I think it would be more deserving of the score than GTA 4 was.Floppy_Jim

Yes. like I said, it looks great. But it definitely does not warrant a 10 at all. In fact, no game this generation has actually warranted a 10. Uncharted 2 would be as undeserving as GTA IV and MGS 4 were. All three of them great games. Just not 'Perfect,' which is what a game needs to be to get a '10.'

Isn't the new 10 subbed as "prime" ? Not perfect? People really need to read the letters below the score

I never referred to the subtitle. I was talking about what a game NEEDS TO BE. Ocarina was perfect when it was released. So it got its rating. But after that, by and large, GS have largely botched up their rating system, except for maybe Soul Calibur.
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Just not 'Perfect,' which is what a game needs to be to get a '10.'charizard1605
That's not why GS gives 10 for.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Just not 'Perfect,' which is what a game needs to be to get a '10.'Cherokee_Jack
Well, 10 isn't "Perfect". But it's not surprising that you wouldn't know that after being here for only 3 years.

My account is 3 years old. i was here since before the GCN.
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I never referred to the subtitle. I was talking about what a game NEEDS TO BE. Ocarina was perfect when it was released. So it got its rating. But after that, by and large, GS have largely botched up their rating system, except for maybe Soul Calibur.charizard1605
What it "needs to be"? So GS should give scores based on what you think a game needs to be? That's not how it works.
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i dunno what all the hype is about. this game really doesn't catch my interest and i love shooter/adventure games. maybe i just gotta play the first? i don't really get hyped about super hyped games like mgs4 or gta4. i got gta4, it was fun, i'd give it an 8 but it's not my type of game really. mgs4 i haven't tried yet which stuns me cause i loved the other ones.

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If you've played the first one then you'll probably understand the hype surrounding U2. The first one is easily one of my fave games so far this generation, and the second has co-op, online competitive, better graphics and supposedly even better single player mode. (according to reviews) I was expecting nothing less than utter brilliance even before I found out about the online modes.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I never referred to the subtitle. I was talking about what a game NEEDS TO BE. Ocarina was perfect when it was released. So it got its rating. But after that, by and large, GS have largely botched up their rating system, except for maybe Soul Calibur.IronBass
What it "needs to be"? So GS should give scores based on what you think a game needs to be? That's not how it works.

From the GS Explanation on their rating system:

What the Numbers Mean:

Here's how the overall rating ranges break down.

10.0: Prime

This exceedingly rare score refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release. Obviously, the constantly changing standards for technology and gameplay will probably make this game obsolete some day, but at its time of release, a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way.

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From the GS Explanation on their rating system: What the Numbers Mean: Here's how the overall rating ranges break down. 10.0: Prime This exceedingly rare score refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release. Obviously, the constantly changing standards for technology and gameplay will probably make this game obsolete some day, but at its time of release, a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way.charizard1605
Yup. That's why they give 10 for. Sounds fair to me.
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If it gets a 10 I will eat my hat.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] From the GS Explanation on their rating system: What the Numbers Mean: Here's how the overall rating ranges break down. 10.0: Prime This exceedingly rare score refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release. Obviously, the constantly changing standards for technology and gameplay will probably make this game obsolete some day, but at its time of release, a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way.IronBass
Yup. That's why they give 10 for. Sounds fair to me.

Which is what I said. a 10 game means a perfect game. But people were nitpicking at that, so I gave them this explanation
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why does it matter anyway... Does it make you a lot more successful in life if it does or does not score a 10? Well... while the graphic looks great, I'm still not sold on the main character, he just looks so plain and blah, not even memorable. I'm def not getting a PS3 for this game... however, I might get a PS3 when God of War comes out, now THAT is a game with some good main character imo.
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Which is what I said. a 10 game means a perfect game. But people were nitpicking at that, so I gave them this explanationcharizard1605
GS explanation does not say the game's perfect. :?
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why does it matter anyway... Does it make you a lot more successful in life if it does or does not score a 10? Well... while the graphic looks great, I'm still not sold on the main character, he just looks so plain and blah, not even memorable. I'm def not getting a PS3 for this game... however, I might get a PS3 when God of War comes out, now THAT is a game with some good main character imo.Bear_in_Action
No, it doesn't. It doesn't matter a tupence to me. I was hyperventiliating, which is something I made clear in the OP itself.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Which is what I said. a 10 game means a perfect game. But people were nitpicking at that, so I gave them this explanationIronBass
GS explanation does not say the game's perfect. :?

From the GS Explanation on their rating system:

What the Numbers Mean:

Here's how the overall rating ranges break down.

10.0: Prime

This exceedingly rare score refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release. Obviously, the constantly changing standards for technology and gameplay will probably make this game obsolete some day, but at its time of release, a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way.

See the bold parts.

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I agree. While I'm pretty pumped for the game, I doubt it would get a 10, especially on this site :P. I'm expecting an 8-9 range, though ;).
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refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of releasecharizard1605
Again, that does not equal perfection.
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#50 salxis
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] From the GS Explanation on their rating system: What the Numbers Mean: Here's how the overall rating ranges break down. 10.0: Prime This exceedingly rare score refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release. Obviously, the constantly changing standards for technology and gameplay will probably make this game obsolete some day, but at its time of release, a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way.charizard1605
Yup. That's why they give 10 for. Sounds fair to me.

Which is what I said. a 10 game means a perfect game. But people were nitpicking at that, so I gave them this explanation

I think this part of the statement s the most important "a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way" So far, from the sound of several reviews, UC2 got great SP,graphic, sound, story, MP etc. , so it's possible for it to get a 10 here if the reviewer thinks that you can't add anything significant to it anymore.