VALVE says most PC gamers' rigs can't touch next gen consoles, OH NO!

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#201 Wasdie  Moderator
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I think DICE is more interested in showing off and licensing the Frostbite 3 engine than actually selling BF4 on consoles.

DICE is competeing with Crytech and Unreal 3, in addition to wanting to have ports on all the major systems.

They got lots of competition to deal with. And I'm sure Source 3 is right around the corner too.

Netherscourge

DICE isn't competeing with those engines. They have an exclusive deal with EA. EA uses the engine and DICE never licenses it out to anybody else. 

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#202 Mystery_Writer
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The GTX Titan I have has more TFlops then the 3 next gen consoles + 3 current gen consoles "combined".

This survey probably counting casual notebook users with Intel HD graphics

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#203 Wasdie  Moderator
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If you have been a long time PC gamer you cant deny the amount of PC devs pushing hardware is nothing like it used to be.

 

PC gaming as a whole is moving away from high specced rigs.

BeardMaster

What are you talking about? It's higher than it's ever been. Gaming hardware sells more and more each year. The PC market exploded in the early 2000s. Then in the middle of the 2000s laptops took over. Everybody was buying a laptop. The PC market was 100x the size it was so those laptop sales were vastly outpacing gaming PC hardware sales. However gaming hardware sales continued to increase.

There are more PC gamers now than ever before. The PC market may be dying out but custom built PCs are doing just fine. They have always been a faction of the market. Custom built PCs and gaming rigs are their own market. What happens to the PC market as a whole usually doesn't affect the power users.

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#204 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Not really surprising considering the most played games on Steam (Dota 2, TF2, CS, L4D, etc) all run on Source and only require a laptop to run at good settings. People that play those games don't need a $300+ GPU

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Actully Laptops can run better games then that, PC gamers simply does refuse understand that it's POSSIBLE play games on other then max settings. PC gamers also refuse to understand that PC machines does not evolve by themselves and not everyone upgrading PC in regular matter. And they saying that consoles holding back gaming..... look on yourself first :p Thank you Valve to finally enlight those people, since same as by complaing about Xbox Live internet locking, it 2nd thing that im only one saying this here :p

I know that I don't need to play games at max settings. After I bought my 1440p monitor last year, there are several games that I can't max out, even though my computer is way stronger than next gen consoles.
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#205 lamprey263
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they're probably right though, while PCs offer best performance edge if you have best hardware, many people don't have the best hardware and their hardware can be pretty dated but that probably doesn't stop some hermits on here from pretending their PCs run like the best of them just to boast their hermit pride
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#206 CaseyWegner
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pc gamer doesn't necessarily mean hermit.

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#207 caseypayne69
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If they are pulling data from Stream user PC's then I am hurting the PC ratio because I have a Piece of S PC with no graphics card running small games like Portal with the graphics on low.
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#208 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Mine is better than next gen consoles and that's all that matters

clyde46
This. I don't care what others are using as long as mine is out-performing the consoles.

Lol I feel the same. U don't cafe what PC gamers have , my console setups are superior
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#209 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

 

If you have been a long time PC gamer you cant deny the amount of PC devs pushing hardware is nothing like it used to be.

 

PC gaming as a whole is moving away from high specced rigs.

Wasdie

What are you talking about? It's higher than it's ever been. Gaming hardware sells more and more each year. The PC market exploded in the early 2000s. Then in the middle of the 2000s laptops took over. Everybody was buying a laptop. The PC market was 100x the size it was so those laptop sales were vastly outpacing gaming PC hardware sales. However gaming hardware sales continued to increase.

There are more PC gamers now than ever before. The PC market may be dying out but custom built PCs are doing just fine. They have always been a faction of the market. Custom built PCs and gaming rigs are their own market. What happens to the PC market as a whole usually doesn't affect the power users.

and the price of affordable hardware i think is proof of that . Back in 2000 to get a decent gaming GPU you would have to spend close if not more than $300 in todays value. Nowdays affordable and capable Gpu's in the $100-250 segment are plenty and the competition their is quite fierce between Nvidia and AMD with gpus like AMD 77xx,78xx and Nvidia gtx 65x series And the price drop it happened to all components Ram,psu ( back in the day there wasnt even a talk about psu's since anything could be fine ), cpu's
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#210 BeardMaster
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

This is why the Next-Gen consoles are so appealing.

Only a fraction of the PC gaming base actually has high-end PCs that surpass the Next-Gen consoles performance.

You need to spend upwards around $800 for high-end PC gaming. 

The new consoles are $400 and $500 and never need to be upgraded.

Pretty easy choice there.

donalbane

Your calculus is shortsighted. Over the course of a console generation, how many games do you think you might buy? Let's say you buy one new game a month and every year for 5 years... hypothetically of course. At $60 per game, you would spend $3600 on software alone. Total cost $400 + $3600 = $4000. Now let's say you buy a new game every month on PC over the same time period. Estimating that 10 of these 12 games you buy each year cost $50 while two you buy each year are from publishers that charge $60 for their PC titles (Ubisoft etc.) then you get a net savings of $100 per year. The final calculus has the PC gamer saving $100 after 5 years, offsetting the cost of the $800 hardware. And I'm not even figuring in the relatively huge savings you can generate if you are a patient consumer... Steam sales offer deals the likes of which one never sees in the console ecology. For instance, how much would you expect to pay for a box set of all the GTA games and DLC if it were to come out on consoles? $100? $80? I recently picked up all the GTA games and DLC for $12 on a Steam sale. So as you can see, PC gaming costs more up front, but less over time. Plus, PCs are modular, allowing you to upgrade if you want your hardware to remain relevant.

 

I dont buy a tons of new releases these days but when i do i usually get some sort of game credit of $10-25 for preordering, and then after i beat the game if its something i dont forsee myself playing again i can usually ebay it and get at least $35 back.

 

PC gamers seem to greatly exaggerate the cost of console games. Whether or not you save money on software for PC greatly depends on your purchasing habbits.

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#211 tagyhag
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Heh. I figured someone would make a thread about this.

Only have one thing to say: Romans were mostly plebs. Only a few could be patricians. :cool: 

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and the price of affordable hardware i think is proof of that . Back in 2000 to get a decent gaming GPU you would have to spend close if not more than $300 in todays value. Nowdays affordable and capable Gpu's in the $100-250 segment are plenty and the competition their is quite fierce between Nvidia and AMD with gpus like AMD 77xx,78xx and Nvidia gtx 65x series And the price drop it happened to all components Ram,psu ( back in the day there wasnt even a talk about psu's since anything could be fine ), cpu's adamosmaki

Good PC hardware was actually more than that and you had to upgrade far more frequently. The whole stereotype of the $2000 PC did come from somewhere.

Today your GPU will last you 2-3 years without a problem. Even longer if you don't mind turning settings down. Back in the late 90s and early 2000s you would be lucky to get 2 years until your hardware was not even supported. Once DX9 hit that changed a bit.

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#213 jhonMalcovich
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they're probably right though, while PCs offer best performance edge if you have best hardware, many people don't have the best hardware and their hardware can be pretty dated but that probably doesn't stop some hermits on here from pretending their PCs run like the best of them just to boast their hermit pridelamprey263

Most of Steam gamers PCs beat current gen consoles, so they were/are right. You are just jealous..

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#214 shellcase86
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Not surprising. The only reason PC gaming has such vast support and is so popular is because everyone has a PC and a lot of the machines are older, no one bothers to update. A majority of PC gamers aren't enthusiasts that bother to keep up to date.

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#215 bobbetybob
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Yet another thread where people think that "anybody who's every played a single game on Steam" and "people who play primarily on PC" are the same thing.
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#216 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]THHBO :lol: Lumpy311

Didn't even bother to read the posts on the thread :lol: peasants always make me laugh.

i actually did... ps4 is without a doubt stronger then 80% of people's pc's in their homes.. maybe even higher then 80%
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#217 BeardMaster
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[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

 

If you have been a long time PC gamer you cant deny the amount of PC devs pushing hardware is nothing like it used to be.

 

PC gaming as a whole is moving away from high specced rigs.

Wasdie

What are you talking about? It's higher than it's ever been. Gaming hardware sells more and more each year. The PC market exploded in the early 2000s. Then in the middle of the 2000s laptops took over. Everybody was buying a laptop. The PC market was 100x the size it was so those laptop sales were vastly outpacing gaming PC hardware sales. However gaming hardware sales continued to increase.

There are more PC gamers now than ever before. The PC market may be dying out but custom built PCs are doing just fine. They have always been a faction of the market. Custom built PCs and gaming rigs are their own market. What happens to the PC market as a whole usually doesn't affect the power users.

 

im talking about software devs pushing hardware minimum requirements, and how they no longer do that. Mainly because they want to court the exploding userbase of low spec users and gain access to the wider market.

 

For instance when warcraft 3 was released in 2002, if your PC was more than 3 years old... you were boned. When diablo 3 was released nin 2012, got a 7 year old PC? no problem.

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#218 moistsandwich
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I knew this already... which is why I'm buying some early multiplats this new gen. for PS4 instead of my gaming PC. My PC will no doubt play any game out this fall... but the benefit I get from the power of my PC will be severly reduced when the PS4 launches.... in 2 years though, I'll have upgraded again and it'll be back to PC multiplats for the rest of the generation.

current PC specs - i7 950 @ 3.05 Ghz - 12 GB DDR3 1600Mhz RAM - 2 GB GTX 660ti GPU

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

 

If you have been a long time PC gamer you cant deny the amount of PC devs pushing hardware is nothing like it used to be.

 

PC gaming as a whole is moving away from high specced rigs.

BeardMaster

What are you talking about? It's higher than it's ever been. Gaming hardware sells more and more each year. The PC market exploded in the early 2000s. Then in the middle of the 2000s laptops took over. Everybody was buying a laptop. The PC market was 100x the size it was so those laptop sales were vastly outpacing gaming PC hardware sales. However gaming hardware sales continued to increase.

There are more PC gamers now than ever before. The PC market may be dying out but custom built PCs are doing just fine. They have always been a faction of the market. Custom built PCs and gaming rigs are their own market. What happens to the PC market as a whole usually doesn't affect the power users.

 

im talking about software devs pushing hardware minimum requirements, and how they no longer do that. Mainly because they want to court the exploding userbase of low spec users and gain access to the wider market.

 

For instance when warcraft 3 was released in 2002, if your PC was more than 3 years old... you were boned. When diablo 3 was released nin 2012, got a 7 year old PC? no problem.

No. They just release the games with high scalable visuals setups which are usually low, medium, high, very high, ultra and extreme. I would say game optimiation and scalability improved hugely this gen. You can run Crysis 3 on a 6-year old PC, and low setting are still better than Crysis on consoles. Or you can run it on ultra and it blows away anything next gen consoles show.

 

PS. Diablo was never a benchmarker. Diablo 2 was made to run on Pentium 200s. I ran it maxxed on my Pentium 266 mmx ;)

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#220 dream431ca
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I guess I'm one of the few who have a PC more powerful than next gen consoles. :P

Also, 47% still rocking core 2 duo's???? These people need help.

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#221 deactivated-5c8ff6a32bb23
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The ignorance is strong in this thread.
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#222 clyde46
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I guess I'm one of the few who have a PC more powerful than next gen consoles. :P

Also, 47% still rocking core 2 duo's???? These people need help.

dream431ca
I bet most are laptops.
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#223 m3Boarder32
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I guess I'm one of the few who have a PC more powerful than next gen consoles. :P

Also, 47% still rocking core 2 duo's???? These people need help.

dream431ca
Who cares, my console setup is better
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#225 TransvormerSCol
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Also, 47% still rocking core 2 duo's???? These people need help.

dream431ca

They were talking about people who still uses dual core processors while using Steam, but did they mention what games those people play on steam? ;D

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#226 MK-Professor
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Steam statistics are saying that about 10 million PC gamers already have an equivalent or better PC than next gen consoles, and 0 console gamers have next gen consoles.

console peasants have been owned once more.

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#227 Jankarcop
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So everyone with a steam account is a hermit now?

 

lmao

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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Also, 47% still rocking core 2 duo's???? These people need help.

TransvormerSCol

They were talking about people who still uses dual core processors while using Steam, but did they mention what games these people play on steam? ;D

They didn't. I used to run Steam on a 1.6GHz Atom.
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#229 donalbane
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

This is why the Next-Gen consoles are so appealing.

Only a fraction of the PC gaming base actually has high-end PCs that surpass the Next-Gen consoles performance.

You need to spend upwards around $800 for high-end PC gaming. 

The new consoles are $400 and $500 and never need to be upgraded.

Pretty easy choice there.

BeardMaster

Your calculus is shortsighted. Over the course of a console generation, how many games do you think you might buy? Let's say you buy one new game a month and every year for 5 years... hypothetically of course. At $60 per game, you would spend $3600 on software alone. Total cost $400 + $3600 = $4000. Now let's say you buy a new game every month on PC over the same time period. Estimating that 10 of these 12 games you buy each year cost $50 while two you buy each year are from publishers that charge $60 for their PC titles (Ubisoft etc.) then you get a net savings of $100 per year. The final calculus has the PC gamer saving $100 after 5 years, offsetting the cost of the $800 hardware. And I'm not even figuring in the relatively huge savings you can generate if you are a patient consumer... Steam sales offer deals the likes of which one never sees in the console ecology. For instance, how much would you expect to pay for a box set of all the GTA games and DLC if it were to come out on consoles? $100? $80? I recently picked up all the GTA games and DLC for $12 on a Steam sale. So as you can see, PC gaming costs more up front, but less over time. Plus, PCs are modular, allowing you to upgrade if you want your hardware to remain relevant.

 

I dont buy a tons of new releases these days but when i do i usually get some sort of game credit of $10-25 for preordering, and then after i beat the game if its something i dont forsee myself playing again i can usually ebay it and get at least $35 back.

 

PC gamers seem to greatly exaggerate the cost of console games. Whether or not you save money on software for PC greatly depends on your purchasing habbits.

Not really... I described the best case scenario for your argument. PC game values depreciate significantly faster than console games any which way you slice it. You can't sell them, but you don't need to because a person looking for a deal can simply enjoy the reduced PC prices themselves.
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im talking about software devs pushing hardware minimum requirements, and how they no longer do that. Mainly because they want to court the exploding userbase of low spec users and gain access to the wider market.

For instance when warcraft 3 was released in 2002, if your PC was more than 3 years old... you were boned. When diablo 3 was released nin 2012, got a 7 year old PC? no problem.

BeardMaster

They don't need to raise minimum specs anymore. CPUs have gotten to a point they are mostly irrelevant. A dual core CPU from 2008 can still run games without many problems. Game engines have also been developed to scale far better than ever before. It's a different time than it was. Our software has finally caught up to our hardware. 

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#231 bobbetybob
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[QUOTE="TransvormerSCol"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Also, 47% still rocking core 2 duo's???? These people need help.

clyde46

They were talking about people who still uses dual core processors while using Steam, but did they mention what games these people play on steam? ;D

They didn't. I used to run Steam on a 1.6GHz Atom.

Yeah I played Max Payne 2 on a netbook, it was hell.
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#232 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

im talking about software devs pushing hardware minimum requirements, and how they no longer do that. Mainly because they want to court the exploding userbase of low spec users and gain access to the wider market.

For instance when warcraft 3 was released in 2002, if your PC was more than 3 years old... you were boned. When diablo 3 was released nin 2012, got a 7 year old PC? no problem.

Wasdie

They don't need to raise minimum specs anymore. CPUs have gotten to a point they are mostly irrelevant. A dual core CPU from 2008 can still run games without many problems. Game engines have also been developed to scale far better than ever before. It's a different time than it was. Our software has finally caught up to our hardware. 

It depends on what game you are trying to run. Good luck trying to get Shogun 2 or Rome 2 to run smoothly with a dual core CPU. That CPU would be fine for most shooters, though.
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#233 NationProtector
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lol valve flip flops more than a seel.
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#234 BeardMaster
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[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

What are you talking about? It's higher than it's ever been. Gaming hardware sells more and more each year. The PC market exploded in the early 2000s. Then in the middle of the 2000s laptops took over. Everybody was buying a laptop. The PC market was 100x the size it was so those laptop sales were vastly outpacing gaming PC hardware sales. However gaming hardware sales continued to increase.

There are more PC gamers now than ever before. The PC market may be dying out but custom built PCs are doing just fine. They have always been a faction of the market. Custom built PCs and gaming rigs are their own market. What happens to the PC market as a whole usually doesn't affect the power users.

jhonMalcovich

 

im talking about software devs pushing hardware minimum requirements, and how they no longer do that. Mainly because they want to court the exploding userbase of low spec users and gain access to the wider market.

 

For instance when warcraft 3 was released in 2002, if your PC was more than 3 years old... you were boned. When diablo 3 was released nin 2012, got a 7 year old PC? no problem.

No. They just release the games with high scalable visuals setups which are usually low, medium, high, very high, ultra and extreme. I would say game optimiation and scalability improved hugely this gen. You can run Crysis 3 on a 6-year old PC, and low setting are still better than Crysis on consoles. Or you can run it on ultra and it blows away anything next gen consoles show.

 

PS. Diablo was never a benchmarker. Diablo 2 was made to run on Pentium 200s. I ran it maxxed on my Pentium 266 mmx ;)

well diablo 2 was only a 2d game, and hey that pentium 2 was still fairly new at the time.

 

and actually you cant run crysis 3 on a 6 year old PC, it requires DX11 and the very first DX11 cards came out at the tail end of 2009 so at release it only supported cards a little over 3 years old. Which is precisely my point, what is now reserved for benchmarking software used to be the norm.

 

scalability certainly has a role, but is also the reason quad cores are underutilized as well DX11, the tradeoff is you design the game around the older standards then add some bells and whistles in for the enthusiasts, but for the most part games arent designed/optimized around newer hardware standards as part of the tradeoff.

 

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#235 TransvormerSCol
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[QUOTE="TransvormerSCol"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Also, 47% still rocking core 2 duo's???? These people need help.

clyde46

They were talking about people who still uses dual core processors while using Steam, but did they mention what games these people play on steam? ;D

They didn't. I used to run Steam on a 1.6GHz Atom.

So how can people think, that the most of the dual core processor users are also playing games with more powerful hardware requerements? On the wiki, they're writing about 54 million registred steam accounts, but the most of the currrent players were seen with something about 6.6million.

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#236 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

I guess I'm one of the few who have a PC more powerful than next gen consoles. :P

Also, 47% still rocking core 2 duo's???? These people need help.

clyde46

I bet most are laptops.

That would make a lot of sense.

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#237 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Not many PC gamers have 670's or 780's, most of them have lower end cards or even integrated cards.

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#238 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="TransvormerSCol"]

They were talking about people who still uses dual core processors while using Steam, but did they mention what games these people play on steam? ;D

TransvormerSCol

They didn't. I used to run Steam on a 1.6GHz Atom.

So how can people think, that the most of the dual core processor users are also playing games with more powerful hardware requerements? On the wiki, they're writing about 54 million registred steam accounts, but the most of the currrent players were seen with something about 6.6million.

The processor listed under Crysis 3's recommended requirements is just a dual core.
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#239 jhonMalcovich
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Not many PC gamers have 670's or 780's, most of them have lower end cards or even integrated cards.

XVision84

But nobody has a next gen console yet. Doh.

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#240 TransvormerSCol
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But nobody has a next gen console yet. Doh.

jhonMalcovich

Are you talking about PS4 and/or XBone?

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#241 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Not many PC gamers have 670's or 780's, most of them have lower end cards or even integrated cards.

jhonMalcovich

But nobody has a next gen console yet. Doh.

Yeah, they're not out yet.

But comparing power, most PC gamers will find that games on next gen consoles look better.

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#242 jhonMalcovich
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[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

But nobody has a next gen console yet. Doh.

TransvormerSCol

Are you talking about PS4 and/or XBone?

Both.

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#243 jhonMalcovich
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[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Not many PC gamers have 670's or 780's, most of them have lower end cards or even integrated cards.

XVision84

But nobody has a next gen console yet. Doh.

Yeah, they're not out yet.

But comparing power, most PC gamers will find that games on next gen consoles look better.

No, if they upgrade. Or do you think that every PC gamer will stay with their 5 year old PC forever and ever ? According to Steam stats, there are already some 5M gamers who own PCs that beat next gen consoles hardware. While next gen consoles will barely sell 3M units al launch. In the end, there will be more Pc gamers with high end PC than next gen consolites at the start of next gen. 

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#244 Rattlesnake_8
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Thats because most PC games don't keep upgrading their rig. They buy a new PC every 10-15 years.
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#245 AmazonTreeBoa
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Threads like this crack me up. How does most PC gamers having weaker specs have any effect on me and my specs? I couldn't care less what other PC gamers are gaming on.
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#246 m3Boarder32
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Threads like this crack me up. How does most PC gamers having weaker specs have any effect on me and my specs? I couldn't care less what other PC gamers are gaming on.AmazonTreeBoa
True. But my console setup is wayyy better than your PC setup. So Consoles > PC
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#247 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Threads like this crack me up. How does most PC gamers having weaker specs have any effect on me and my specs? I couldn't care less what other PC gamers are gaming on.m3Boarder32
True. But my console setup is wayyy better than your PC setup. So Consoles > PC

Yes, i love your plasma, it ups the resolution, graphics and everything!

 

God m3boarder, you are a joke.

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#248 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] Anyone can have a steam account :|

Would a non-gamer have a Steam account?

Yes. They could have children or grand children that come over. Or nieces and nephews or little brothers or sisters. There are many reasons for a non gamer to have steam. Steam also doesn't just sell games you know...Oh wait, you probably wouldn't know that.
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#249 glez13
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Thats because most PC games don't keep upgrading their rig. They buy a new PC every 10-15 years.Rattlesnake_8

This. While 10-15 years is a lot, probably it's more like 5-7 years, most people use their hardware until it basically dies or develops a quirk that limits it's use or performance.

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#250 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="TransvormerSCol"]

They were talking about people who still uses dual core processors while using Steam, but did they mention what games these people play on steam? ;D

TransvormerSCol

They didn't. I used to run Steam on a 1.6GHz Atom.

So how can people think, that the most of the dual core processor users are also playing games with more powerful hardware requerements? On the wiki, they're writing about 54 million registred steam accounts, but the most of the currrent players were seen with something about 6.6million.

Thats because Steam fills the survey with separate entries for hardware when it should be done per user. I run Steam on 4 different machines and everyone has completed the survey.