Valve Shuts out Ps3 too complicated

[QUOTE="Odrec"]Their games suck anyway. I have a good enough computer but I wouldn't waste my time on their games.Racer_XLR

Bah! We know you're only kidding. :o

Half-Life? Portal? Come on...

Lazy dev piss me off.........but then really do i want a expansion of a expansion.....left 4 dead and left 4 dead 2. And i find it funny people are trying to defend them.......just about everyone else can make a game on the ps3.........they just a bunch of b***** that let other people make there games and call it their own. Counter strike and Team Fortress anyone..........they are not the greatest or even close to it. If they were the greatest they would put games on the 360. Basically your telling me the greatest devs in the world can't make a game on the ps3 because its too hard..........cry me a ****** river.......or is it because they dont want too.......that means they're being just plain arrogant......most of the people in here defending them sound arrogant.

truly hilarious how defensive people get over this.... i can see Gabe smirking when i read a lot of these replies.

3picuri3

I always thought that the workers at Valve we're very smart at making games, if PS3 is too complicated for them then... wow, they are primitive developers.

But this decision helps me out on what console I'll be getting in the long run *cough 360 cough*

[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"][QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Thats funny, other developers are doing just fine:?Dead-Memories

Well, all the PS3 guys have high end PCs, so this really isn't a problem.

AAllxxjjnn

Seriously, they mention how they would get the superior pc version when it is pc/360 multiplat. Would not make sense why they would rather get the ps3 version if there was one.

Well, the PS3 architecture is a total unecessarily bloated mess. And considering how badly coded is the Source engine. It doesn't surprise me that a mediocre developer can't figure out the disaster the PS3 is.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

Well, all the PS3 guys have high end PCs, so this really isn't a problem.

istreakforfood

Seriously, they mention how they would get the superior pc version when it is pc/360 multiplat. Would not make sense why they would rather get the ps3 version if there was one.

Looks like someone hasn't bothered to read the thread.

Well, the PS3 architecture is a total unecessarily bloated mess. And considering how badly coded is the Source engine. It doesn't surprise me that a mediocre developer can't figure out the disaster the PS3 is.

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Well, the PS3 architecture is a total unecessarily bloated mess. And considering how badly coded is the Source engine. It doesn't surprise me that a mediocre developer can't figure out the disaster the PS3 is.

adamosmaki

Looks like someone hasn't bothered to read the thread.

Calling some a troll is trolling.

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Well, the PS3 architecture is a total unecessarily bloated mess. And considering how badly coded is the Source engine. It doesn't surprise me that a mediocre developer can't figure out the disaster the PS3 is.

adamosmaki

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="404-not-found"]

Well, the PS3 architecture is a total unecessarily bloated mess. And considering how badly coded is the Source engine. It doesn't surprise me that a mediocre developer can't figure out the disaster the PS3 is.

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I like how everyone thinks they jsut don't learn how to do it.

Honestly, do you know how to develop games?

Multiplatform developers have two different teams for the Ps3 and 360, Valve has no team dedicated to the Ps3.

God, reading this thread made me want to choke about 15 people at least.

I like how everyone thinks they jsut don't learn how to do it.

Honestly, do you know how to develop games?

Multiplatform developers have two different teams for the Ps3 and 360, Valve has no team dedicated to the Ps3.

God, reading this thread made me want to choke about 15 people at least.

Ambli

It's official Valve just doesnt have the resources, knowledge or money it takes to be a true developer.

whitetiger3521

The commentors on the site make me want to cry.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

Static Lighting :P

OWNESDFSDFDSFSD

[QUOTE="whitetiger3521"]

It's official Valve just doesnt have the resources, knowledge or money it takes to be a true developer.

Bumzur

This is great news for Xbox 360/PC owners. Half Life 3 only on Xbox and PC. Oh yeah!!

Good. Now they should shut out the 360 and stick to PC, where they belong.

http://loot-ninja.com/2009/06/09/valve-shuts-out-too-complicated-ps3/

Tssk Tssk.. lazy devs confirmed :evil:

AdoringFan_

Well, if everyone thought like Valve we'd all still be living in the dark ages by candle light.

sure. like i buy that excuse.

Well, if everyone thought like Valve we'd all still be living in the dark ages by candle light.

MassacreMonk

.... valve has made some of the most amazing, technology-pushing games.

they just don't like ps3.

Valve and their excuses...

Valve and their excuses...

PSdual_wielder

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Valve and their excuses...

3picuri3

claiming its 'too complicated' isn't an implying the 'i cant do it' portion?

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Valve and their excuses...

PSdual_wielder

claiming its 'too complicated' isn't an implying the 'i cant do it' portion?

no, not at all. it's not an excuse whatsoever. an excuse is something used when put to a task and refusing under false pretense. valve is their own entity, given the prospect of making a multiplat for PS3. not obliged. it's a refusal, with a reason. it would be like you working in design and turning down a job on the side to do something you'd have to be trained to do - obviously you're not making an excuse if you turn it down, you're giving a reason as to why it doesn't make sense for you to do it on a reward vs effort scale. excuse requires obligation. without obligation the term means nothing. simple english stuff :P

another example would be a contractor turning down a contract because he would have to train up to take it. if he has enough work without it, and doesn't want / need to train up, he isn't making an excuse, he is turning down work.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]It's no secret that Valve has no love for it.AdoringFan_

Seriously; they should just tell the media that they dislike the PS3.

I think they just did. Again.

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"] it's not an excuse. its a thumbs down to sony. and excuse would be making up reasons why they can't or wont do it. valve flat out said they're not supporting Sony due to their arrogance and unnecessarily complicated hardware :) that's called a reason, a dis, an insult, not an excuse. 'im sick, i cant do it' is an excuse. 3picuri3

claiming its 'too complicated' isn't an implying the 'i cant do it' portion?

wow, I'm not even going to debate that. You can have this one lol.

I like how everyone thinks they jsut don't learn how to do it.

Honestly, do you know how to develop games?

Multiplatform developers have two different teams for the Ps3 and 360, Valve has no team dedicated to the Ps3.

God, reading this thread made me want to choke about 15 people at least.

Ambli

I share the exact same feeling. People who have no idea about porting or developing games bashing one of the best companies for not putting games on their system exist only on System Wars.

Why would a PC dev want to develop for the PS3 anyways? Every PS3 owner owns a high end gaming PC, so they can get all of Valve's games there.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]It's no secret that Valve has no love for it.AdoringFan_

Seriously; they should just tell the media that they dislike the PS3.

Well, all the PS3 guys have high end PCs, so this really isn't a problem.

AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

claiming its 'too complicated' isn't an implying the 'i cant do it' portion?

PSdual_wielder

wow, I'm not even going to debate that. You can have this one lol.

well do you disagree? an excuse by definition is a reason given for non-participation when under obligation or request. this isn't that sort of situation. valve is a business that can decide to make games for PS3 or not. just like a tire company can make tires for one car or another, or both. the only difference is this is system wars. where people like to ignore some of the facts that exist in the real world :)

this isn't an attack on you at all. i just don't like this lazy dev / excuse myth that is perpetuated in SW and some other forums.

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[QUOTE="3picuri3"] no, not at all. it's not an excuse whatsoever. an excuse is something used when put to a task and refusing under false pretense. valve is their own entity, given the prospect of making a multiplat for PS3. not obliged. it's a refusal, with a reason. it would be like you working in design and turning down a job on the side to do something you'd have to be trained to do - obviously you're not making an excuse if you turn it down, you're giving a reason as to why it doesn't make sense for you to do it on a reward vs effort scale. excuse requires obligation. without obligation the term means nothing. simple english stuff :P

3picuri3

wow, I'm not even going to debate that. You can have this one lol.

Hope you're not referring to me on the last part. I have a rebuttal, but likely it won't come out as strong as yours. As I said you won this one.

And yet other devs seem to be doing just fine. *shakes head* :|

Tssk Tssk.. lazy devs confirmed :evil:AdoringFan_

Dont really care, its no news that Valve dont like the PS3... i'll probably pick L4D 2 when it hits a lower price for my 360..

[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]Tssk Tssk.. lazy devs confirmed :evil:VitunLehmat

So honestly do you really think PS3 owners should worry just because Valve wont release L4D 2 on PS3??? with all the games both exclusive & multiplats coming out, i'm sure Ps3 'only' owners wont miss much Valve's title(s)... if Valve dont have enough resources to work also on PS3 its their internal problem and not something all devs face otherwise we wouldnt see 1 single multiplat on PS3..

http://loot-ninja.com/2009/06/09/valve-shuts-out-too-complicated-ps3/

Tssk Tssk.. lazy devs confirmed :evil:

Are they really lazy? Or is it rather that they don't have the time nor the resources to go on about researching and learning the hardware?ToScA-