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#201 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

yak yak yak, it never ends with these people. I loved DA: O and I really enjoyed the DA2 demo, if you don't like how DA2 is going to end up then go play that witcher game you PC guys are always yammerin' on about instead.

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I wish the Witcher series would go to consoles. Heard nothing but great things about it.

It most likely will :) That and Diablo 3
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#202 110million
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i'm sure this same thread is going to be made when the witcher 2 comes out. "if it goes to consoles". peaceChris_Williams
Witcher 2 looks amazing, I don't care if it goes to consoles at some point, it looks like it was built for PC considering the graphics, and the moral choices, grey options, etc seem to be in full swing. CD Projeckt isn't like Bioware, the type of dev who sells out their integrity. Witcher 2 can come to consoles eventually, but I will not make false claims towards it.
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#203 timmy00
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

I love DA2 combat. The original was just so boring!

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:lol: Timmy you crazy console gamer. That dialogue tree saddens me. Everything else in the game is fine but I need more options.

I barely bothered with the dialogue tree. I only leveled myself up. :P

Crazy console gamer? :cry: You're so mean. :P I play TF2 and Alien Swarm. :(

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#204 topsemag55
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I wish the Witcher series would go to consoles. Heard nothing but great things about it. Ragnarok1051

Given that the developer used nVidia graphics commands in the game, it could look good on the PS3 since it has a nVidia chip.

But with only 256 MB memory, the disc would never stop spinning - on the PC, the main folder is 13.3 GB in size.:P

The intro cinematic alone is almost half a gigabyte, and runs > 500 fps on the PC.

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#205 Ravensmash
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http://www.1up.com/news/game-night-dragon-age-2 In around 2 and a half hours.... (I think?) 1up are carrying on from where the demo left off. I suggest we all watch it ;)
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#206 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]http://www.1up.com/news/game-night-dragon-age-2 In around 2 and a half hours.... (I think?) 1up are carrying on from where the demo left off. I suggest we all watch it ;)

Or don't, since If you already are buying the game, to avoid spoilers if possible.
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#207 edidili
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http://www.1up.com/news/game-night-dragon-age-2 In around 2 and a half hours.... (I think?) 1up are carrying on from where the demo left off. I suggest we all watch it ;)Ravensmash

No thanks. I still plan on getting the game. Spoilers is the last thing I want.

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#208 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]http://www.1up.com/news/game-night-dragon-age-2 In around 2 and a half hours.... (I think?) 1up are carrying on from where the demo left off. I suggest we all watch it ;)

Or don't, since If you already are buying the game, to avoid spoilers if possible.

Very good point... :( Still no harm in just taking a quick peek to see how the combat/dialogue works in areas away from the demo.
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#209 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]http://www.1up.com/news/game-night-dragon-age-2 In around 2 and a half hours.... (I think?) 1up are carrying on from where the demo left off. I suggest we all watch it ;)

Or don't, since If you already are buying the game, to avoid spoilers if possible.

Very good point... :( Still no harm in just taking a quick peek to see how the combat/dialogue works in areas away from the demo.

Oh no, there's a thread on Bioware's site that has a TON of spoilers. Apparently Bioware left a considerably large amount of info in the demo, and people are able to use the console to access the info. I think I've had enough spoilers.
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#210 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] Or don't, since If you already are buying the game, to avoid spoilers if possible.

Very good point... :( Still no harm in just taking a quick peek to see how the combat/dialogue works in areas away from the demo.

Oh no, there's a thread on Bioware's site that has a TON of spoilers. Apparently Bioware left a considerably large amount of info in the demo, and people are able to use the console to access the info. I think I've had enough spoilers.

Well thanks for the heads up, was going to go over there and see what they're saying but definitely not now... *gets tempted :P* I hate spoilers though, I remember Halo Reach got ruined for me.
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#211 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Very good point... :( Still no harm in just taking a quick peek to see how the combat/dialogue works in areas away from the demo.

Oh no, there's a thread on Bioware's site that has a TON of spoilers. Apparently Bioware left a considerably large amount of info in the demo, and people are able to use the console to access the info. I think I've had enough spoilers.

Well thanks for the heads up, was going to go over there and see what they're saying but definitely not now... *gets tempted :P* I hate spoilers though, I remember Halo Reach got ruined for me.

Its just the one thread really. Its labelled something like HUGE SPOILERS IN OP or something like that in its title too.
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#212 Avian005
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I think the changes are for the best, but I wish there was a way to play the game like DA:O.

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#213 DeckardLee2010
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All real gamers know that consoles are killing the industry.

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#214 Avian005
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All real gamers know that consoles are killing the industry.

DeckardLee2010

How are they killing exaclty? All I have seen over the years is the growth of the industry. And there are a lot of great games on consoles worth owning, even if they don't match up to PC standards.

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#215 lx_theo
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All real gamers know that consoles are killing the industry.

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Sounds like PC elitism to me.
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#216 Ravensmash
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All real gamers know that consoles are killing the industry.

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Oh you... :P But yeah the stream is up for the 1up gameplay - not really spoiling things as they're talking over and stuff - love the combat.
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#217 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="timmy00"]

I love DA2 combat. The original was just so boring!

timmy00

:lol: Timmy you crazy console gamer. That dialogue tree saddens me. Everything else in the game is fine but I need more options.

I barely bothered with the dialogue tree. I only leveled myself up. :P

Crazy console gamer? :cry: You're so mean. :P I play TF2 and Alien Swarm. :(

But that's the whole point of Bioware games man :|. The dialogue is the best part, combat is always solid but nothing revolutionary, it's the writing that makes them amazing games (on the PC anyway :P).
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#218 emperorzhang66
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The simpleton console players are to blame.:P

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every time i see that gif i can help but think gears 3 is coming to pc :D We can hope right :)
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#219 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="DeckardLee2010"]

All real gamers know that consoles are killing the industry.

Ravensmash
Oh you... :P But yeah the stream is up for the 1up gameplay - not really spoiling things as they're talking over and stuff - love the combat.

One thing you can take from it... Your family (Bethany, Carver, and your mother) change based on what preset face you pick in character creation. The bethany in the stream is A LOT different than the default you see in the demo.
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#221 haberman13
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Consoles ruin games/gaming/franchises/RPG/FPS

This is an established fact, but we should stop posting about it, at some point we have to stop iterating this point and move on.

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#223 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="haberman13"]

Consoles ruin games/gaming/franchises/RPG/FPS

This is an established fact, but we should stop posting about it, at some point we have to stop iterating this point and move on.

AncientDozer

Because they believe repeating it will make it true even though it's not.

@Haberman13

As much as I respect your avatar I have to disagree. There are plenty of great games on consoles.

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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"] :lol: Timmy you crazy console gamer. That dialogue tree saddens me. Everything else in the game is fine but I need more options.oldkingallant

I barely bothered with the dialogue tree. I only leveled myself up. :P

Crazy console gamer? :cry: You're so mean. :P I play TF2 and Alien Swarm. :(

But that's the whole point of Bioware games man :|. The dialogue is the best part, combat is always solid but nothing revolutionary, it's the writing that makes them amazing games (on the PC anyway :P).

I must be high or something! :lol: (I'm not :P)

I read your post oh so wrong. I'm fine with the dialogue tree. I though you meant like the way you get skills or whatever. I'm dumb today king. :(

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#225 skrat_01
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CoolfaceHawke will give me nightmares
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#226 LookAnDrolL
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[QUOTE="rolo107"]Dragon Age 2 is almost exactly the same as Dragon Age: Origins... I don't see the humor, it's just perpetuated by the false perception people had before and are unwilling to let go of now. The dialogue being more simple is a bad thing? That Baldur's Gate stuff is no better than the stuff below, and it's false depth anyway when you talk about practicality. Chris_Williams
i know man, i'm trying to remember was dragon age combat as deep and complex pc gamers are making it out to be? i mean i could have sworn your just clicking really fast and there was strategy involve when it came to bosses or alot of enemies surrounding you but it was still a mouse masher/button masher. oh well, dragon age 2 is coming out and i shall buy it.

LOLWUT, DA:O a button masher?
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#227 savagetwinkie
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The simpleton console players are to blame.:P

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maybe dev's realized fun games sold better
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#228 Everiez
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I can understand complaint on dialog tree and camera but I don't see any problem with battle system. Some games out there have manual attacking with strategy element. Your party can be wiped out if all you do is button mashing without strategy. Take it as multi-tasking. If console players can handle that then so do PC players. You can turn on auto-attack and set difficulty setting. Plus it's a demo.

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#229 ChubbyGuy40
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Why did Bioware decide to consolize/ME2 my Dragon Age?! WHHHYYY :cry:

The game looks horrible, plays horrible, dialogue is Bioware trash. This game will flop. All flash no substance. Its very boring.

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#230 rpgs_shall_rule
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So, just finished the demo. Consolization confirmed. Couldn't even turn the camera by moving the mouse to the sides. No panning the camera makes tactical play stupid too. At least they didn't get rid of the pause.... *cough* Witcher *cough* Skill trees, while interesting also look restrictive towards mods. Combat in general feels teh gimmicky. Not sure if there was an option to turn on combat text. Demo also had some bugs with leveling up and tactics. Bethany has a nice chest though :D
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#231 AAllxxjjnn
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The original Dragon Age wasn't even that good to begin with.
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#232 Jankarcop
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The original Dragon Age wasn't even that good to begin with. AAllxxjjnn

It was amazing.

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#233 rpgs_shall_rule
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]The original Dragon Age wasn't even that good to begin with. Jankarcop

It was amazing.

It was pretty good. Pretty sure I'll like NWN2 better once I get to replaying it. At least NWN (hopefully) won't have the horrible facial expressions. AND IT HAS COOP!!

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#234 ManicAce
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That's an epic u mad pic. :lol: And yeah I'm mad with what they did to the dialogue system, it's crap now. But the combat was fine on PC, though it has to be backed up by proper enemies, loot, items etc. to stay that way through the whole game.
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#235 texasgoldrush  Online
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Why did Bioware decide to consolize/ME2 my Dragon Age?! WHHHYYY :cry:

The game looks horrible, plays horrible, dialogue is Bioware trash. This game will flop. All flash no substance. Its very boring.

lol blind Bioware hater I presume..... Judging by the spolierific demo files, this is NOT a typical Bioware game.
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#236 texasgoldrush  Online
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That's an epic u mad pic. :lol: And yeah I'm mad with what they did to the dialogue system, it's crap now. But the combat was fine on PC, though it has to be backed up by proper enemies, loot, items etc. to stay that way through the whole game.ManicAce
the dialogue feels way more natural with the wheel than it did the first game....the older games always talked AT the player instead of WITH the player. The PC feels more like a natural character than just a lazy avatar. Instead of whole dialogue, you get Ultima style keywords, which is fine if done properly.
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#237 ManicAce
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[QUOTE="ManicAce"]That's an epic u mad pic. :lol: And yeah I'm mad with what they did to the dialogue system, it's crap now. But the combat was fine on PC, though it has to be backed up by proper enemies, loot, items etc. to stay that way through the whole game.texasgoldrush
the dialogue feels way more natural with the wheel than it did the first game....the older games always talked AT the player instead of WITH the player. The PC feels more like a natural character than just a lazy avatar. Instead of whole dialogue, you get Ultima style keywords, which is fine if done properly.

I much prefer silent character, but that's just personal preference. What isn't subjective though is that you have less control over what your characters says, there are less options and often the tiny describtion isn't all that precise.
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#238 Remmib
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Consoles ruin games/gaming/franchises/RPG/FPS

This is an established fact, but we should stop posting about it, at some point we have to stop iterating this point and move on.

haberman13
Unfortunately, this is a true story bro.
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="ManicAce"]That's an epic u mad pic. :lol: And yeah I'm mad with what they did to the dialogue system, it's crap now. But the combat was fine on PC, though it has to be backed up by proper enemies, loot, items etc. to stay that way through the whole game.ManicAce
the dialogue feels way more natural with the wheel than it did the first game....the older games always talked AT the player instead of WITH the player. The PC feels more like a natural character than just a lazy avatar. Instead of whole dialogue, you get Ultima style keywords, which is fine if done properly.

I much prefer silent character, but that's just personal preference. What isn't subjective though is that you have less control over what your characters says, there are less options and often the tiny describtion isn't all that precise.

my personal preference is the Mass Effect style, with the main character being able to speak. If not that do it like Fallout where the player chooses dialog but it's all first person. either one seems to really have nice immersion and more natural if you will. but having a Mass Effect style dialog scene, then the main character never speaks breaks it for me. personally speaking of course.
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#243 DragonfireXZ95
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Wow, I can't believe how much better the writing quality was in Baldur's Gate compared to DA:O and especially compared to DA2. Why has writing gotten so bad now-a-days? I'm playing through Alan Wake now and the writing is just god awful.
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#245 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Wow, I can't believe how much better the writing quality was in Baldur's Gate compared to DA:O and especially compared to DA2. Why has writing gotten so bad now-a-days? I'm playing through Alan Wake now and the writing is just god awful.

i loved alan wake, what chapter are you at, if its first couple, it will get better. dont bother with the DLC !

Yeah, it's the first chapter. We'll see, I have pretty high standards for writing as I love to write myself. So I'll be the judge of that. :P
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Wow, I can't believe how much better the writing quality was in Baldur's Gate compared to DA:O and especially compared to DA2. Why has writing gotten so bad now-a-days? I'm playing through Alan Wake now and the writing is just god awful.DragonfireXZ95
Just because a game is less verbose doesn't mean the writing is worse. I do think BGII is better written, but not because how verbose the dialogue options are.
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#248 texasgoldrush  Online
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] i loved alan wake, what chapter are you at, if its first couple, it will get better. dont bother with the DLC !sts106mat
Yeah, it's the first chapter. We'll see, I have pretty high standards for writing as I love to write myself. So I'll be the judge of that. :P

i am pretty confident you'll really enjoy it, its a great game IMO. some people i have seen on here said they thought it went into a bit of a slump around chapter 3... well press on. i played through the story 3 times and dont think i ever once skipped a cutscene. also when i said dont bother with the DLC, that was probably a bit un-fair. the first one "the signal" i actually enjoyed, it was the second "the writer" that left a bad taste in my mouth.

the writer is essential and its better than the signal...both should be played together. the writer has Alan Wake's craziest moment.
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#249 texasgoldrush  Online
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="ManicAce"]That's an epic u mad pic. :lol: And yeah I'm mad with what they did to the dialogue system, it's crap now. But the combat was fine on PC, though it has to be backed up by proper enemies, loot, items etc. to stay that way through the whole game.ManicAce
the dialogue feels way more natural with the wheel than it did the first game....the older games always talked AT the player instead of WITH the player. The PC feels more like a natural character than just a lazy avatar. Instead of whole dialogue, you get Ultima style keywords, which is fine if done properly.

I much prefer silent character, but that's just personal preference. What isn't subjective though is that you have less control over what your characters says, there are less options and often the tiny describtion isn't all that precise.

more dialogue options =/= better sure the keywords aren't always precise, especially if done improperly, but lines of text fail to pick up emotion because a line of dialogue can mean different things based on the tone its used in. Both systems have their strengths and weaknesses.