What consoles did to Dragon Age **56k**

[QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]So, just finished the demo. Consolization confirmed. Couldn't even turn the camera by moving the mouse to the sides. No panning the camera makes tactical play stupid too. At least they didn't get rid of the pause.... *cough* Witcher *cough* Skill trees, while interesting also look restrictive towards mods. Combat in general feels teh gimmicky. Not sure if there was an option to turn on combat text. Demo also had some bugs with leveling up and tactics. Bethany has a nice chest though :Dcain006

Why do people keep comparing the witcher and dragon age? Their combat is completely different.

I'm not... I was simply complaining about the lack of a pause button in Witcher 2. I still think DA2 is consolized though...

Face it DA2 still wouldn't be Baldur's Gate reincarnate even if it was PC exclusive. You can piss a moan about it being dumbed down for consoles, but the fact is NWN was pretty dumbed down from Baulder's Gate too and it didn't even have a console release.

Ilikemyname420

seriously the voice acting was laughablwe in that game. I know right, yup nerds will blame it on consoles when its the devs fault.

Dragon Age: Origins
- 1,000,000 Words
- 1,000 Cinematics
- 1,000 Characters
- 56,000 Spoken Lines
- 60 Hours of Gameplay


Dragon Age II
- 400,000 Words
- 2,500 Cinematics
- 500 Characters
- 38,000 Spoken Lines
- 40 Hours of Gameplay

[QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"]

Face it DA2 still wouldn't be Baldur's Gate reincarnate even if it was PC exclusive. You can piss a moan about it being dumbed down for consoles, but the fact is NWN was pretty dumbed down from Baulder's Gate too and it didn't even have a console release.

AiurProtoss

seriously the voice acting was laughablwe in that game. I know right, yup nerds will blame it on consoles when its the devs fault.

The A A A Awesome gif is great. Pretty much sums up the stupidity of DA2.

Well after Crysis 2 I am starting to like Dragon Age 2.

It could have been a lot worse, lol.

Well after Crysis 2 I am starting to like Dragon Age 2.

It could have been a lot worse, lol.

Masculus

LOL, I was just thinking the same thing; I might buy DA2 now instead. At least Bioware has proven to be incompetent PC devs so I won't get all sweaty about dumbing-down.

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

Well after Crysis 2 I am starting to like Dragon Age 2.

It could have been a lot worse, lol.

haberman13

LOL, I was just thinking the same thing; I might buy DA2 now instead. At least Bioware has proven to be incompetent PC devs so I won't get all sweaty about dumbing-down.

Yeah, i mean DA2 was expected. They even made videos showing how the PC version would play and all to give their fans some feedback. The demo was dumbed down but at least enjoyable, many people liked it. Crysis 2 on the other hand is a complete disaster, nobody in this forum liked the demo, norgt,not even incrysis liked it. But enough of Crysis, this is a DA thread.

/rant

The A A A Awesome gif is great. Pretty much sums up the stupidity of DA2.

haberman13

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

The A A A Awesome gif is great. Pretty much sums up the stupidity of DA2.

texasgoldrush

Pressing A over and over again is not fun, no matter how you put it. Plus DA isn't about this, it's about the freaking strategy. There are games out there that do a better job and make you look way cooler when you press A.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] when is more cinematics and less words bad?110million

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

The A A A Awesome gif is great. Pretty much sums up the stupidity of DA2.

edidili

Pressing A over and over again is not fun, no matter how you put it. Plus DA isn't about this, it's about the freaking strategy. There are games out there that do a better job and make you look way cooler when you press A.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

The A A A Awesome gif is great. Pretty much sums up the stupidity of DA2.

Pressing A over and over again is not fun, no matter how you put it. Plus DA isn't about this, it's about the freaking strategy. There are games out there that do a better job and make you look way cooler when you press A.

I won't buy it at full price purely because there's no ismoetric view. I used it so much in origins that it just seems weird to not have it.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

The A A A Awesome gif is great. Pretty much sums up the stupidity of DA2.

edidili

Pressing A over and over again is not fun, no matter how you put it. Plus DA isn't about this, it's about the freaking strategy. There are games out there that do a better job and make you look way cooler when you press A.

Honestly, DA:Origins combat sucked as well. Many don't find auto-attack much fun. You could walk away from most fights end-game fully confident that you're party could easily take on white/yellow mobs with your input. I felt more or less unneeded toward the endgame of DA:O. Although DA2's system of just hitting A over and over again isn't much better. Yeah it looks smooth, but honestly it adds very little to the game.

Auto-attacking makes combat feel uninvolved and disconnected, whereas pushing a is oversimplified and tedious. Bioware could have done much more, but as it stands they traded one average battle system for another.

[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] whats stupid is characters and enemies taking turns beating eachother in a real time system.....clunky and stupid.GeneralShowzer

Pressing A over and over again is not fun, no matter how you put it. Plus DA isn't about this, it's about the freaking strategy. There are games out there that do a better job and make you look way cooler when you press A.

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]So, just finished the demo. Consolization confirmed. Couldn't even turn the camera by moving the mouse to the sides. No panning the camera makes tactical play stupid too. At least they didn't get rid of the pause.... *cough* Witcher *cough* Skill trees, while interesting also look restrictive towards mods. Combat in general feels teh gimmicky. Not sure if there was an option to turn on combat text. Demo also had some bugs with leveling up and tactics. Bethany has a nice chest though :Drpgs_shall_rule

Why do people keep comparing the witcher and dragon age? Their combat is completely different.

I'm not... I was simply complaining about the lack of a pause button in Witcher 2. I still think DA2 is consolized though...

Sorry, it's just there were some people doing it earlier and for some reason I didn't post then.

I wouldn't blame consoles, but Dragon Age 2 looks like crap.

I wouldn't blame consoles, but Dragon Age 2 looks like crap.

NeonNinja

Fine, the console casual crowd. Consolized is shorter though.

[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] whats stupid is characters and enemies taking turns beating eachother in a real time system.....clunky and stupid.Kickinurass

Pressing A over and over again is not fun, no matter how you put it. Plus DA isn't about this, it's about the freaking strategy. There are games out there that do a better job and make you look way cooler when you press A.

Honestly, DA:Origins combat sucked as well. Many don't find auto-attack much fun. You could walk away from most fights end-game fully confident that you're party could easily take on white/yellow mobs with your input. I felt more or less unneeded toward the endgame of DA:O. Although DA2's system of just hitting A over and over again isn't much better. Yeah it looks smooth, but honestly it adds very little to the game.

Auto-attacking makes combat feel uninvolved and disconnected, whereas pushing a is oversimplified and tedious. Bioware could have done much more, but as it stands they traded one average battle system for another.

I won't buy it at full price purely because there's no ismoetric view. I used it so much in origins that it just seems weird to not have it.

cain006

DA1 was more like an offline MMORPG, which was boring at times. DA2 is just crap.

Special gamepad designed just for Dragon Age II:

Special gamepad designed just for Dragon Age II:

RyuRanVII

There are to many buttons.

I started playing Dragon Age 2 on PS3 earlier. Graphics are pretty darn bad. Some places they are REALLY bad. I was standing next to a small crowd of people and some of them looked like they came from an N64 game. I've been playing a Rogue and I've found most of the time I'm running around just pressing X with the occasional other symbol buttons but there's just a lack of strategy compared to Origins on PC.

I wouldn't blame consoles, but Dragon Age 2 looks like crap.

NeonNinja

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

I wouldn't blame consoles, but Dragon Age 2 looks like crap.

lockjaw333

I started playing Dragon Age 2 on PS3 earlier. Graphics are pretty darn bad. Some places they are REALLY bad. I was standing next to a small crowd of people and some of them looked like they came from an N64 game. I've been playing a Rogue and I've found most of the time I'm running around just pressing X with the occasional other symbol buttons but there's just a lack of strategy compared to Origins on PC.

-Unreal-

What?

Maybe I WANT to press just any button and have something ****ing ball bustingly awesome happen.

And Dragon Age was a really boring game. A boring game with enormous stretches of really, really lame gameplay segments. The Fade parts were horrible.

Special gamepad designed just for Dragon Age II:

RyuRanVII

At first I thought it was just a special edition controller, than I noticed the single A button. :lol:

I started playing Dragon Age 2 on PS3 earlier. Graphics are pretty darn bad. Some places they are REALLY bad. I was standing next to a small crowd of people and some of them looked like they came from an N64 game. I've been playing a Rogue and I've found most of the time I'm running around just pressing X with the occasional other symbol buttons but there's just a lack of strategy compared to Origins on PC.

-Unreal-

I don't understand why they made all these changes, I thought the whole point of dragon age was to be like baulders gate.

topgunmv

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

also its not like dragon age orgin had the most deepest combat system ever either, wasn't it just clicking/button mashing and hot keys? i fail to see how them just taking that forumula and making it look cool in action is a bad thing

110million

[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

also its not like dragon age orgin had the most deepest combat system ever either, wasn't it just clicking/button mashing and hot keys? i fail to see how them just taking that forumula and making it look cool in action is a bad thing

GeneralShowzer

You are wrong when you say DA:O didn't had a deep combat system, probably didn't play it on pc. It was no button masher.

Ok forget about the combat, what about the dialog tree and the choices? That's ridiculous. ME was a light rpg with very black/white choices. Peoples would decide to play a renegade Shepard and would only choose the bottom choice. DA:O was different. It offered a lot of choices and had a lot of grey areas, not as simplified as ME. With this new system you have no idea what your character will say. There is only a word or 2 as a preview and you just hope the character says what you wanted for him to say. So much for roleplaying.

cool thread

What?

Maybe I WANT to press just any button and have something ****ing ball bustingly awesome happen.

-TheSecondSign-

Then play Bayonetta or GoW.

And Dragon Age was a really boring game. A boring game with enormous stretches of really, really lame gameplay segments. The Fade parts were horrible.

-TheSecondSign-

Are you kidding me? It had an amazing gameplay. Maybe you played as a warrior, on normal in a console then yeah I agree with you. As for the fade, I just installed a mod and skipped it in my other playthroughs.

What?

Maybe I WANT to press just any button and have something ****ing ball bustingly awesome happen.

And Dragon Age was a really boring game. A boring game with enormous stretches of really, really lame gameplay segments. The Fade parts were horrible.

-TheSecondSign-

[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"]

Special gamepad designed just for Dragon Age II:

tenaka2

There are to many buttons.

Oh please. Bioware has gone out and said a bunch of times, you choose to play. They've refined the battle system where what you did is an option, but if you want to play it tactically, play it tactically. None of the stuff that was removed from the gameplay.lx_theo

Playing demo on hard... and haven't paused once in combat yet, nor have I touched tactics. :D

Got my PC killed once though, but still finished the fight with no real trouble. That was the only time I took control of another character.

[QUOTE="15strong"]

The original was on consoles, so.....No. Can't blame the consoles this time. Sorry PC fanboys.

lawlessx

I think it's pretty ridiculous to just ASSUME only console gamers didn't like the combat to DA:O. Heck, I know a PC Elitist in the real who hated DA:O because of the combat, but is in love with DA2.

PC Elitists need to get their heads out of their rears and stop acting like they are better than console owners. It's seriously just nerdy and pathetic.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

The original was on consoles, so.....No. Can't blame the consoles this time. Sorry PC fanboys.

xYamatox

I think it's pretty ridiculous to just ASSUME only console gamers didn't like the combat to DA:O. Heck, I know a PC Elitist in the real who hated DA:O because of the combat, but is in love with DA2.

PC Elitists need to get their heads out of their rears and stop acting like they are better than console owners. It's seriously just nerdy and pathetic.

You got baited by the lolfest TC so badly. Infact, i'm amazed moderators have even allowed this thread to continue.. It just invites flaming against a group of gamers lol.

Why does the dialogue wheel have to be in every BioWare game? Its not even that great of an addition to Dragon Age. From what I saw most of the time you're in a discussion you have three options and that it is it. That is even more simplistic than the Mass Effect 2 dialogue wheel.