what has better technical graphics

Always keep in mind, Crysis is a final optimised game, Fable 2 pic will get 9 more months of work until release

But Fable 2 light beams, shadows and detail is definatly way ahead IMO, and is a given, Crysis is old now, Fable 2 is coming later, so was a given that would look far better

saolin323

I hope your don't take yourself seriously.

pc rulzs... period i play @1920/1200 and 360/ps3 play @what res? rest my case tionmedon

well depends on the game of it supports 1080p then they play at 1900/1080

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

The only Crysis pics that look better, are the FAKE editor exported pics

Nice try, but noone has STILL been able to provide even a passable looking IN GAME pic, in true 720p resolution

saolin323

Here's the Natural Mod: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/169185.html

I've tried it and it makes Crysis look better then even on Very High settings with no framerate decrease. My stock un-modded pics of crysis looked better then your Fable 2 pics. Why do you deny that?

Well, this is just a sea, i want a forest pic, with sun rays to compare, the natural mod seems great though, and Crysis does look impressive there i agree, but frankly i sill do not see anything mid blowing comparing to that Fable 2 forest pic TBH

The only thing that is eye catching is the lighting, I'll give you that. Also, do you really expect a console with 3 year old hardware to compete graphically with a game designed for todays cutting edge computers? Your logic has a hole there ;)

The draw distance is big in Fable 2, it is time of day that makes it seems that way

I will agree about textures though, Crusis rocks are much more detailed, at least for now, but i still think Fable 2 will not get that kind of textures in any way TBH, still the textures ARE good in the latest pics, and the forest pics is not lit in a way that would make textures look good, if you know what i mean

The trees are far from low polygon IMO, you just can't see them properly in that pic, here is a better one

And i agree that textures, visibility, and stuff around is more in Crysis, due to huge draw distance that is, but still in close by stuff Fable 2 looks amazing, and i still can't tell hw they handle LOD, it may have areas with great visibility too

why are you even trying to argue this anymore. time of day is no excuse. at least you finally admitted crysis is better. but to say not by much is almost as bad as saying fable was ebtter in the first place uncharted has way better textures and well graphics then fable from what i've seen and uncharted doesn't even come close to crysis. either way as it stands crysis is graphics king, uncharted is console graphics king(at the moment).

also one more thing i seen you say earlier that killzone 2 has bad lighting??lol i need some of the crack that your smokin. if anything lighting is all that killzone has going for it

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Always keep in mind, Crysis is a final optimised game, Fable 2 pic will get 9 more months of work until release

But Fable 2 light beams, shadows and detail is definatly way ahead IMO, and is a given, Crysis is old now, Fable 2 is coming later, so was a given that would look far better

Duo75

I hope your don't take yourself seriously.

THE GAME WILL NOT GET NINE MORE MONTHS OF OPTIMIZATION!!!!!!!!!!!!if its getting released in 9 months you'll prob be getting 6 months of optimization and even then its not graphics they'll be worrying about, it'll be smoothing out animations and bugs/glitches. do you not understand how long it take to mass produce millions of copies of a game then to ship it out to warehouses around the world. even in the same country it still take some of that 9 months. and lighting in fable better then lighting in crysis???man you really need to tell me what you're smokin right now

I didn't feel like spedning an hour finding a forest pic (not a jungle pic) comparable to Fable 2 in lighting. However I took some snapshots showing the lighting in Crysis and how good it looks. Also, while the "God Rays" are not as pronounced as in Fable 2 by default, you can easily make them look like that through the console. I just chose not to and tried to show off the stock Crysis, which looks better IMO.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc26/cheshire03/Proof%20that%20Crysis%20looks%20vastly%20better%20then%20Fable%202/ScreenShot0051.jpg

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc26/cheshire03/Proof%20that%20Crysis%20looks%20vastly%20better%20then%20Fable%202/ScreenShot0049.jpg

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc26/cheshire03/Proof%20that%20Crysis%20looks%20vastly%20better%20then%20Fable%202/ScreenShot0053.jpg

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc26/cheshire03/Proof%20that%20Crysis%20looks%20vastly%20better%20then%20Fable%202/ScreenShot0054.jpg

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

The only Crysis pics that look better, are the FAKE editor exported pics

Nice try, but noone has STILL been able to provide even a passable looking IN GAME pic, in true 720p resolution

enygma500

Here's the Natural Mod: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/169185.html

I've tried it and it makes Crysis look better then even on Very High settings with no framerate decrease. My stock un-modded pics of crysis looked better then your Fable 2 pics. Why do you deny that?

Well, this is just a sea, i want a forest pic, with sun rays to compare, the natural mod seems great though, and Crysis does look impressive there i agree, but frankly i sill do not see anything mid blowing comparing to that Fable 2 forest pic TBH

The only thing that is eye catching is the lighting, I'll give you that. Also, do you really expect a console with 3 year old hardware to compete graphically with a game designed for todays cutting edge computers? Your logic has a hole there ;)

The draw distance is big in Fable 2, it is time of day that makes it seems that way

I will agree about textures though, Crusis rocks are much more detailed, at least for now, but i still think Fable 2 will not get that kind of textures in any way TBH, still the textures ARE good in the latest pics, and the forest pics is not lit in a way that would make textures look good, if you know what i mean

The trees are far from low polygon IMO, you just can't see them properly in that pic, here is a better one

And i agree that textures, visibility, and stuff around is more in Crysis, due to huge draw distance that is, but still in close by stuff Fable 2 looks amazing, and i still can't tell hw they handle LOD, it may have areas with great visibility too

why are you even trying to argue this anymore. time of day is no excuse. at least you finally admitted crysis is better. but to say not by much is almost as bad as saying fable was ebtter in the first place uncharted has way better textures and well graphics then fable from what i've seen and uncharted doesn't even come close to crysis. either way as it stands crysis is graphics king, uncharted is console graphics king(at the moment).

also one more thing i seen you say earlier that killzone 2 has bad lighting??lol i need some of the crack that your smokin. if anything lighting is all that killzone has going for it

Uncharted only has more detailed textures, NOTHING more, it is generations behind in lighitng, detail, scale, stuff around, dynamic world etc

Do not compare last gen looking games to Fable 2, all Uncharted has is good looking textures in some WALLS around a path, that is laughable comparing to the huge, free romaing Fable 2 world, with the dynamic lighting and shadows, etc

No contest there, comparing Fable 2 to Drake, is like comparing Crysis to Doom 3

Dear Lemmings, just enjoy your games on Xbox360 and when one day Fable2 gets released play it and then decide if its good or not... Don't judge by a couple of screenshots being shown over and over again...

Dear Lemmings, just enjoy your games on Xbox360 and when one day Fable2 gets released play it and then decide if its good or not... Don't judge by a couple of screenshots being shown over and over again...

Maltese_Guy

From my comp:

2 of mine:

Uncharted only has more detailed textures, NOTHING more, it is generations behind in lighitng, detail, scale, stuff around, dynamic world etc

Do not compare last gen looking games to Fable 2, all Uncharted has is good looking textures in some WALLS around a path, that is laughable comparing to the huge, free romaing Fable 2 world, with the dynamic lighting and shadows, etc

No contest there, comparing Fable 2 to Drake, is like comparing Crysis to Doom 3

saolin323

Uncharted does not look like a last gen game nor is it generations behind Fable 2. Saying Uncharted looks like a last gen game is like saying all of this gen's library looks last gen which is a ridiculous idea.

Plus, if you are going to say things like "Fable 2 is miles ahead of X game" or "[Uncharted] is generations behind in lighting...," please give definitive numbers instead of your own broad range of comparing graphics.

Looks like I scared you off saolin323. You ignore my posts because you've been proven wrong. The pictures I've provided look waaay better then anything you've shown. And to the post where you think those other Crysis pics are fake, they're not. That's just a different lighting configuration that anyone can upload. I think it's called the Ultra Quality config file, it just tweaks the HDR and post processing. There is also the Natural Mod that makes Crysis look similar to that.karasill

Unmistakably. When will he intend to realize that Fable 2, if it's going to look like this, won't be a video game with more strikingly impressive graphics than Crysis? It apparently won't. Not if we're discussing about technical graphics. It just doesn't represent things as they really are. I sincerely want to see another screen shot. Fable 2 doesn't even look as realistic as Gears of War.

I wonder why noone posts the REAL resolution of those Crysis pics, just to see how they really are in their not tiny downscaled formsaolin323

THEY are real res from my comp.

Name a good hosting site and i'll post the originals :) 1680x1050burntout_83

http://imageshack.us

Uncharted does not look like a last gen game nor is it generations behind Fable 2. Saying Uncharted looks like a last gen game is like saying all of this gen's library looks last gen which is a ridiculous idea. Plus, if you are going to say things like "Fable 2 is miles ahead of X game" or "[Uncharted] is generations behind in lighting please give definitive numbers instead of your own broad range of comparing graphics. Zassimick

It is the scale, last gen lighting, and empty levels that make Uncharted just another good looking title, and MILES behind Fable 2

Uncharted: 5-6 blades of grass per 10 square meters --- Fable 2: vast landscapes filled with grass

Uncharted: 4-5 trees stack in the level edges/walls, a few polygons for leaves --- Fable 2: A real 3D forest, with trees everywhere, 120.000 leaves per tree, amazigly detailed and textured trunks

Uncharted: Pre-defined shadow maps that move --- Fable 2: Real 3D shadows from each tree leaf, stretching and moving as the sun does, and as the wind moves leaves, claculated real time for the day/night cycle

Uncharted: Fake light beams, that do not move with the sun, or are really filtered through geometry/leaves --- Fable 2: volumetric light beams, that move with the sun, and are filtered through geometry/leaves as the sun moves, an effect found ONLY in Crysis, Fra Cry 2, Alan Wake and Fable 2 so far

Unchrated: Small, tiny, room sized levels, empty inside, detailed in walls around --- Fable 2: Vast detail, flowers, grass, trees all over like in Crysis, thicker forests than Far Cry 2, and free roaming huge forests, with real 3D trees in the levels, and no emptyness, but full of grasses, trees, rocks etc

So, Fable 2 in lighting, scale, detail is just about 1-2 generations ahead of Uncharted old gen comparing graphics and tiny levels

A few of my ingame genuine screenshots

And

I'd like there to be competition for the game Crysis as there are large parts of it I don't like to be frank. Just got too sci fi for my liking. However, the graphics cannot be touched or compared at present and I suspect this will continue for a long time when it comes to technical excellence whether we like it or not.

Sorry gotta do it again. WABLAM

This here is the greatest shot in crysis IMO

This is me climbing a ladder

Me modifying my weapon

Looking at some trees

Crysis probably has the best characters models in gaming

Looking at dead people

Crysis dugh!!!!!!!

[QUOTE="Zassimick"]Uncharted does not look like a last gen game nor is it generations behind Fable 2. Saying Uncharted looks like a last gen game is like saying all of this gen's library looks last gen which is a ridiculous idea. Plus, if you are going to say things like "Fable 2 is miles ahead of X game" or "[Uncharted] is generations behind in lighting please give definitive numbers instead of your own broad range of comparing graphics. saolin323

It is the scale, last gen lighting, and empty levels that make Uncharted just another good looking title, and MILES behind Fable 2

Uncharted: 5-6 blades of grass per 10 square meters --- Fable 2: vast landscapes filled with grass

Uncharted: 4-5 trees stack in the level edges/walls, a few polygons for leaves --- Fable 2: A real 3D forest, with trees everywhere, 120.000 leaves per tree, amazigly detailed and textured trunks

Uncharted: Pre-defined shadow maps that move --- Fable 2: Real 3D shadows from each tree leaf, stretching and moving as the sun does, and as the wind moves leaves, claculated real time for the day/night cycle

Uncharted: Fake light beams, that do not move with the sun, or are really filtered through geometry/leaves --- Fable 2: volumetric light beams, that move with the sun, and are filtered through geometry/leaves as the sun moves, an effect found ONLY in Crysis, Fra Cry 2, Alan Wake and Fable 2 so far

Unchrated: Small, tiny, room sized levels, empty inside, detailed in walls around --- Fable 2: Vast detail, flowers, grass, trees all over like in Crysis, thicker forests than Far Cry 2, and free roaming huge forests, with real 3D trees in the levels, and no emptyness, but full of grasses, trees, rocks etc

So, Fable 2 in lighting, scale, detail is just about 1-2 generations ahead of Uncharted old gen comparing graphics and tiny levels

Ugh this is not uncharted vs. Fable 2.

[QUOTE="Zassimick"]Uncharted does not look like a last gen game nor is it generations behind Fable 2. Saying Uncharted looks like a last gen game is like saying all of this gen's library looks last gen which is a ridiculous idea. Plus, if you are going to say things like "Fable 2 is miles ahead of X game" or "[Uncharted] is generations behind in lighting please give definitive numbers instead of your own broad range of comparing graphics. saolin323

It is the scale, last gen lighting, and empty levels that make Uncharted just another good looking title, and MILES behind Fable 2

Uncharted: 5-6 blades of grass per 10 square meters --- Fable 2: vast landscapes filled with grass

Uncharted: 4-5 trees stack in the level edges/walls, a few polygons for leaves --- Fable 2: A real 3D forest, with trees everywhere, 120.000 leaves per tree, amazigly detailed and textured trunks

Uncharted: Pre-defined shadow maps that move --- Fable 2: Real 3D shadows from each tree leaf, stretching and moving as the sun does, and as the wind moves leaves, claculated real time for the day/night cycle

Uncharted: Fake light beams, that do not move with the sun, or are really filtered through geometry/leaves --- Fable 2: volumetric light beams, that move with the sun, and are filtered through geometry/leaves as the sun moves, an effect found ONLY in Crysis, Fra Cry 2, Alan Wake and Fable 2 so far

Unchrated: Small, tiny, room sized levels, empty inside, detailed in walls around --- Fable 2: Vast detail, flowers, grass, trees all over like in Crysis, thicker forests than Far Cry 2, and free roaming huge forests, with real 3D trees in the levels, and no emptyness, but full of grasses, trees, rocks etc

So, Fable 2 in lighting, scale, detail is just about 1-2 generations ahead of Uncharted old gen comparing graphics and tiny levels

Seriously, I have seen nothing of what you say about fable 2 in your pictures.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Zassimick"]Uncharted does not look like a last gen game nor is it generations behind Fable 2. Saying Uncharted looks like a last gen game is like saying all of this gen's library looks last gen which is a ridiculous idea. Plus, if you are going to say things like "Fable 2 is miles ahead of X game" or "[Uncharted] is generations behind in lighting please give definitive numbers instead of your own broad range of comparing graphics. Bebi_vegeta

It is the scale, last gen lighting, and empty levels that make Uncharted just another good looking title, and MILES behind Fable 2

Uncharted: 5-6 blades of grass per 10 square meters --- Fable 2: vast landscapes filled with grass

Uncharted: 4-5 trees stack in the level edges/walls, a few polygons for leaves --- Fable 2: A real 3D forest, with trees everywhere, 120.000 leaves per tree, amazigly detailed and textured trunks

Uncharted: Pre-defined shadow maps that move --- Fable 2: Real 3D shadows from each tree leaf, stretching and moving as the sun does, and as the wind moves leaves, claculated real time for the day/night cycle

Uncharted: Fake light beams, that do not move with the sun, or are really filtered through geometry/leaves --- Fable 2: volumetric light beams, that move with the sun, and are filtered through geometry/leaves as the sun moves, an effect found ONLY in Crysis, Fra Cry 2, Alan Wake and Fable 2 so far

Unchrated: Small, tiny, room sized levels, empty inside, detailed in walls around --- Fable 2: Vast detail, flowers, grass, trees all over like in Crysis, thicker forests than Far Cry 2, and free roaming huge forests, with real 3D trees in the levels, and no emptyness, but full of grasses, trees, rocks etc

So, Fable 2 in lighting, scale, detail is just about 1-2 generations ahead of Uncharted old gen comparing graphics and tiny levels

Seriously, I have seen nothing of what you say about fable 2 in your pictures.

Like what, all you need is the forest pic, all is there

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Zassimick"]Uncharted does not look like a last gen game nor is it generations behind Fable 2. Saying Uncharted looks like a last gen game is like saying all of this gen's library looks last gen which is a ridiculous idea. Plus, if you are going to say things like "Fable 2 is miles ahead of X game" or "[Uncharted] is generations behind in lighting please give definitive numbers instead of your own broad range of comparing graphics. saolin323

It is the scale, last gen lighting, and empty levels that make Uncharted just another good looking title, and MILES behind Fable 2

Uncharted: 5-6 blades of grass per 10 square meters --- Fable 2: vast landscapes filled with grass

Uncharted: 4-5 trees stack in the level edges/walls, a few polygons for leaves --- Fable 2: A real 3D forest, with trees everywhere, 120.000 leaves per tree, amazigly detailed and textured trunks

Uncharted: Pre-defined shadow maps that move --- Fable 2: Real 3D shadows from each tree leaf, stretching and moving as the sun does, and as the wind moves leaves, claculated real time for the day/night cycle

Uncharted: Fake light beams, that do not move with the sun, or are really filtered through geometry/leaves --- Fable 2: volumetric light beams, that move with the sun, and are filtered through geometry/leaves as the sun moves, an effect found ONLY in Crysis, Fra Cry 2, Alan Wake and Fable 2 so far

Unchrated: Small, tiny, room sized levels, empty inside, detailed in walls around --- Fable 2: Vast detail, flowers, grass, trees all over like in Crysis, thicker forests than Far Cry 2, and free roaming huge forests, with real 3D trees in the levels, and no emptyness, but full of grasses, trees, rocks etc

So, Fable 2 in lighting, scale, detail is just about 1-2 generations ahead of Uncharted old gen comparing graphics and tiny levels

Seriously, I have seen nothing of what you say about fable 2 in your pictures.

Like what, all you need is the forest pic, all is there

Seriously why are you doing this? Anyone can see that Fable 2 is an average current gen looking game ...

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Zassimick"]Uncharted does not look like a last gen game nor is it generations behind Fable 2. Saying Uncharted looks like a last gen game is like saying all of this gen's library looks last gen which is a ridiculous idea. Plus, if you are going to say things like "Fable 2 is miles ahead of X game" or "[Uncharted] is generations behind in lighting please give definitive numbers instead of your own broad range of comparing graphics. Meu2k7

It is the scale, last gen lighting, and empty levels that make Uncharted just another good looking title, and MILES behind Fable 2

Uncharted: 5-6 blades of grass per 10 square meters --- Fable 2: vast landscapes filled with grass

Uncharted: 4-5 trees stack in the level edges/walls, a few polygons for leaves --- Fable 2: A real 3D forest, with trees everywhere, 120.000 leaves per tree, amazigly detailed and textured trunks

Uncharted: Pre-defined shadow maps that move --- Fable 2: Real 3D shadows from each tree leaf, stretching and moving as the sun does, and as the wind moves leaves, claculated real time for the day/night cycle

Uncharted: Fake light beams, that do not move with the sun, or are really filtered through geometry/leaves --- Fable 2: volumetric light beams, that move with the sun, and are filtered through geometry/leaves as the sun moves, an effect found ONLY in Crysis, Fra Cry 2, Alan Wake and Fable 2 so far

Unchrated: Small, tiny, room sized levels, empty inside, detailed in walls around --- Fable 2: Vast detail, flowers, grass, trees all over like in Crysis, thicker forests than Far Cry 2, and free roaming huge forests, with real 3D trees in the levels, and no emptyness, but full of grasses, trees, rocks etc

So, Fable 2 in lighting, scale, detail is just about 1-2 generations ahead of Uncharted old gen comparing graphics and tiny levels

Seriously, I have seen nothing of what you say about fable 2 in your pictures.

Like what, all you need is the forest pic, all is there

Seriously why are you doing this? Anyone can see that Fable 2 is an average current gen looking game ...

But NOONE so far is in position to post a pic with a better looking forest than this Fable 2 one, right ? You know that what you say seems more like a joke to me so far

But NOONE so far is in position to post a pic with a better looking forest than this Fable 2 one, right ? You know that what you say seems more like a joke to me so far

saolin323

Lol You do know that you're even spoiling Fable 2 for the people who were actually interested in it.

Saolin does not have a PS3, Xbox 360, or gaming PC.

He's been asked for a XBL/PSN ID several times. His official stance is that he's never connected to PSN. Yeah, sure.

It's so obvious he's never played Uncharted or Crysis. As almost every GAMER knows who has actually, you know, PLAYED THESE GAMES and is ENTITLED TO COMMENT ON THEM, Fable 2 does not look anywhere close to Uncharted let alone Crysis.

Saolin's opinions do not matter because he has no idea what he is talking about. He has never seen these games in motion. He has never played through these games and spent any actual time with them. Who cares what he thinks, with no reference, none of his opinions matter at all.

So I just wanted to save all of you guys the trouble of arguing with this troll. He probably doesn't know what next gen games actually look like.

Saolin does not have a PS3, Xbox 360, or gaming PC.

He's been asked for a XBL/PSN ID several times. His official stance is that he's never connected to PSN. Yeah, sure.

It's so obvious he's never played Uncharted or Crysis. As almost every GAMER knows who has actually, you know, PLAYED THESE GAMES and is ENTITLED TO COMMENT ON THEM, Fable 2 does not look anywhere close to Uncharted let alone Crysis.

Saolin's opinions do not matter because he has no idea what he is talking about. He has never seen these games in motion. He has never played through these games and spent any actual time with them. Who cares what he thinks, with no reference, none of his opinions matter at all.

So I just wanted to save all of you guys the trouble of arguing with this troll. He probably doesn't know what next gen games actually look like.

sts9kid

Ok, post ONE in game Uncharted pic that

1. has ground FULLY covered in grass, and flowers and rocks

2. that grass receives shadows from the near trees as in Fable 2 pic i posted

3. has real time moving with the sun, filtered through vegetation in real time, light volumetric beams, emulating dust and moisture in forest atmosphere

4. a HOST of trees around, with 120.000 leaves each, and that you can freely move around all of them, with as good textures in the truck as the pic i posted before

5. all trees casting a proper shadow from each leaf to everything else, that also move with the sun motion

If you are serious about me loosing it, then go ahead and post such a Drake pic, be my guest

The pic must have a HUD

Can you provide a bigger town that the below too ?

Hey Saolin, how about you post your XBL or PSN ID instead?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Zassimick"]Uncharted does not look like a last gen game nor is it generations behind Fable 2. Saying Uncharted looks like a last gen game is like saying all of this gen's library looks last gen which is a ridiculous idea. Plus, if you are going to say things like "Fable 2 is miles ahead of X game" or "[Uncharted] is generations behind in lighting please give definitive numbers instead of your own broad range of comparing graphics. saolin323

It is the scale, last gen lighting, and empty levels that make Uncharted just another good looking title, and MILES behind Fable 2

Uncharted: 5-6 blades of grass per 10 square meters --- Fable 2: vast landscapes filled with grass

Uncharted: 4-5 trees stack in the level edges/walls, a few polygons for leaves --- Fable 2: A real 3D forest, with trees everywhere, 120.000 leaves per tree, amazigly detailed and textured trunks

Uncharted: Pre-defined shadow maps that move --- Fable 2: Real 3D shadows from each tree leaf, stretching and moving as the sun does, and as the wind moves leaves, claculated real time for the day/night cycle

Uncharted: Fake light beams, that do not move with the sun, or are really filtered through geometry/leaves --- Fable 2: volumetric light beams, that move with the sun, and are filtered through geometry/leaves as the sun moves, an effect found ONLY in Crysis, Fra Cry 2, Alan Wake and Fable 2 so far

Unchrated: Small, tiny, room sized levels, empty inside, detailed in walls around --- Fable 2: Vast detail, flowers, grass, trees all over like in Crysis, thicker forests than Far Cry 2, and free roaming huge forests, with real 3D trees in the levels, and no emptyness, but full of grasses, trees, rocks etc

So, Fable 2 in lighting, scale, detail is just about 1-2 generations ahead of Uncharted old gen comparing graphics and tiny levels

Seriously, I have seen nothing of what you say about fable 2 in your pictures.

Like what, all you need is the forest pic, all is there

But its nothing of what your describing.

Saolin does not have a PS3, Xbox 360, or gaming PC.

He's been asked for a XBL/PSN ID several times. His official stance is that he's never connected to PSN. Yeah, sure.

It's so obvious he's never played Uncharted or Crysis. As almost every GAMER knows who has actually, you know, PLAYED THESE GAMES and is ENTITLED TO COMMENT ON THEM, Fable 2 does not look anywhere close to Uncharted let alone Crysis.

Saolin's opinions do not matter because he has no idea what he is talking about. He has never seen these games in motion. He has never played through these games and spent any actual time with them. Who cares what he thinks, with no reference, none of his opinions matter at all.

So I just wanted to save all of you guys the trouble of arguing with this troll. He probably doesn't know what next gen games actually look like.

sts9kid

You win.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Zassimick"]Uncharted does not look like a last gen game nor is it generations behind Fable 2. Saying Uncharted looks like a last gen game is like saying all of this gen's library looks last gen which is a ridiculous idea. Plus, if you are going to say things like "Fable 2 is miles ahead of X game" or "[Uncharted] is generations behind in lighting please give definitive numbers instead of your own broad range of comparing graphics. Bebi_vegeta

It is the scale, last gen lighting, and empty levels that make Uncharted just another good looking title, and MILES behind Fable 2

Uncharted: 5-6 blades of grass per 10 square meters --- Fable 2: vast landscapes filled with grass

Uncharted: 4-5 trees stack in the level edges/walls, a few polygons for leaves --- Fable 2: A real 3D forest, with trees everywhere, 120.000 leaves per tree, amazigly detailed and textured trunks

Uncharted: Pre-defined shadow maps that move --- Fable 2: Real 3D shadows from each tree leaf, stretching and moving as the sun does, and as the wind moves leaves, claculated real time for the day/night cycle

Uncharted: Fake light beams, that do not move with the sun, or are really filtered through geometry/leaves --- Fable 2: volumetric light beams, that move with the sun, and are filtered through geometry/leaves as the sun moves, an effect found ONLY in Crysis, Fra Cry 2, Alan Wake and Fable 2 so far

Unchrated: Small, tiny, room sized levels, empty inside, detailed in walls around --- Fable 2: Vast detail, flowers, grass, trees all over like in Crysis, thicker forests than Far Cry 2, and free roaming huge forests, with real 3D trees in the levels, and no emptyness, but full of grasses, trees, rocks etc

So, Fable 2 in lighting, scale, detail is just about 1-2 generations ahead of Uncharted old gen comparing graphics and tiny levels

Seriously, I have seen nothing of what you say about fable 2 in your pictures.

Like what, all you need is the forest pic, all is there

But its nothing of what your describing.

What do you think is NOT like i describe ?

Get over it man you've lost this battle a hundred times and its only your blind fanboyism (or more correctly your blind fakeboyism) thats even keeping these threads going. We all know your full of it, we all know your faking all your debates and your threads and you keep going thinking the majority of us actually care.

Stop digging up old threads that have no purpose mate, grow up, see reality and get a life fakeboy.

Always keep in mind, Crysis is a final optimised game, Fable 2 pic will get 9 more months of work until release

But Fable 2 light beams, shadows and detail is definatly way ahead IMO, and is a given, Crysis is old now, Fable 2 is coming later, so was a given that would look far better

saolin323

^ This is a classic example of someone lying to themselves.

You honestly need to play Crysis for yourself on an 8 series or 38** series card before you make further posts. Take a look at the poll!

See Crysis forest ? Not even as good IMO

See Crysis forest ? Not even as good IMO

saolin323

Yes, it is.

See Crysis forest ? Not even as good IMO

saolin323

What i see, is more bloom in Crysis forest, that makes it look strange, and far less detail, no grass ??? at all, not much more detail in trees too, and they look worst to me because they are confusing and bad in their art possibly

I give Crysis the bigger scale, the ground texture is a bit better, and the low vegetation very nice indeed, but they are 100% comparabel from those pics, if not an edge to Fable 2 because its trees can be SEEN, each leaf, there is grass and light beams behave much better IMO

What i see, is more bloom in Crysis forest, that makes it look strange, and far less detail, no grass ??? at all, not much more detail in trees too, and they look worst to me because they are confusing and bad in their art possibly

I give Crysis the bigger scale, the ground texture is a bit better, and the low vegetation very nice indeed, but they are 100% comparabel from those pics, if not an edge to Fable 2 because its trees can be SEEN, each leaf, there is grass and light beams behave much better IMO

saolin323

Nevertheless, the trees in Crysis look far more realistic than the trees in Fable 2. Moreover, in a general sense, Crysis looks far more realistic.

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What i see, is more bloom in Crysis forest, that makes it look strange, and far less detail, no grass ??? at all, not much more detail in trees too, and they look worst to me because they are confusing and bad in their art possibly

I give Crysis the bigger scale, the ground texture is a bit better, and the low vegetation very nice indeed, but they are 100% comparabel from those pics, if not an edge to Fable 2 because its trees can be SEEN, each leaf, there is grass and light beams behave much better IMO

02152008

Nevertheless, the trees in Crysis look far more realistic than the trees in Fable 2. Moreover, in a general sense, Crysis looks far more realistic.

But that is debating art, and personally the realistic looking style is something i hate in games, i like games to look like games, not like a washed out reality, but that is just me