What has Microsoft done for the Video Game industry?

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#1 HaloinventedFPS
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When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

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#2 Ninja-Hippo
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You know being good for 'the industry' or whatever doesn't simply come down to a check-box list of who did what first. I think Microsoft have been pretty decent in so far as they've released a good console with good games. Gaming is definitely better with the xbox. They aint perfect (by a long shot) but they're no worse than Sony or Nintendo.
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When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

HaloinventedFPS
Funny that your username is "haloinventedFPS" and yet it's MS that made halo.
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As for something positive? I believe they did wonders for online console gaming. Though XBL may not be worth spending money on, it is a great service and PSN would not be what it is today had it not been for XBL.... thats about all I can think of.

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#5 BIacckAce
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they made sony step up their game.

high launch price,no games and sucky online service. what was sony thinking?

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Online gaming man
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#7 HeavyMetalKirby
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I don't know for sure, but I was pretty sure micro$oft came out with the online voice chat thing. Even though dreamcast and PC had the online match making service. and now all three systems use online voice chat.

Oh and halo of course. :|

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You know being good for 'the industry' or whatever doesn't simply come down to a check-box list of who did what first. I think Microsoft have been pretty decent in so far as they've released a good console with good games. Gaming is definitely better with the xbox. They aint perfect (by a long shot) but they're no worse than Sony or Nintendo. Ninja-Hippo

good console? Xbox 360 is garbage, so many errors, 60% failure rate

good games? Halo and Gears? Gears is 3rd party and Bungie left Microsoft, Forza? GT clone, Fable? 3 was mediocre, exclusive dlc? PS3 has more exclusive DLC

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Positive? I can't really think of anything.

Negative? They charge for P2P online, DLC that used to be free, and completely f****g killed Rare.

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i can't think of anything other than releasing some quality titles like Gears and Halo.

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Who invented Achievements (I'm curious)? You have an answer for all except that.
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#12 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

alexside1

Funny that your username is "haloinventedFPS" and yet it's MS that made halo.

Microsoft made Halo?

Halo was made by bungie, it was also going to be PC exclusive, before Microsoft bought bungie out

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]You know being good for 'the industry' or whatever doesn't simply come down to a check-box list of who did what first. I think Microsoft have been pretty decent in so far as they've released a good console with good games. Gaming is definitely better with the xbox. They aint perfect (by a long shot) but they're no worse than Sony or Nintendo. HaloinventedFPS

good console? Xbox 360 is garbage, so many errors, 60% failure rate

good games? Halo and Gears? Gears is 3rd party and Bungie left Microsoft, Forza? GT clone, Fable? 3 was mediocre, exclusive dlc? PS3 has more exclusive DLC

Well i've somehow managed to greatly enjoy my xbox 360 over the last five years or so, and play it more or less daily with my friends (Reach ftw). Of course i play the PS3 too, and the PC (and well.. not the wii... ) and i enjoy all those. I'm pretty sure you would indeed not like the xbox if you irrationally dismiss everything good it has to offer as garbage.
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Who invented Achievements (I'm curious)? You have an answer for all except that.SaltyMeatballs

Highscores and ranks etc have been in gaming since the late 70's

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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

alexside1
Funny that your username is "haloinventedFPS" and yet it's MS that made halo.

most likely a troll acount of such were people believe he is a lem
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

HaloinventedFPS

Funny that your username is "haloinventedFPS" and yet it's MS that made halo.

Microsoft made Halo?

Halo was made by bungie, it was also going to be PC exclusive, before Microsoft bought bungie out

Mac and PC ;)
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#17 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]You know being good for 'the industry' or whatever doesn't simply come down to a check-box list of who did what first. I think Microsoft have been pretty decent in so far as they've released a good console with good games. Gaming is definitely better with the xbox. They aint perfect (by a long shot) but they're no worse than Sony or Nintendo. Ninja-Hippo

good console? Xbox 360 is garbage, so many errors, 60% failure rate

good games? Halo and Gears? Gears is 3rd party and Bungie left Microsoft, Forza? GT clone, Fable? 3 was mediocre, exclusive dlc? PS3 has more exclusive DLC

Well i've somehow managed to greatly enjoy my xbox 360 over the last five years or so, and play it more or less daily with my friends (Reach ftw). Of course i play the PS3 too, and the PC (and well.. not the wii... ) and i enjoy all those. I'm pretty sure you would indeed not like the xbox if you irrationally dismiss everything good it has to offer as garbage.

because it is garbage, Xbox 360 got lucky this gen because Sony stuffed up, so everyone went to the Xbox 360, next gen Microsoft are going to get destroyed if Sony dont stuff up again

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#18 Silverbond
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When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

HaloinventedFPS

I guess you should rethink about it.

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You know being good for 'the industry' or whatever doesn't simply come down to a check-box list of who did what first. I think Microsoft have been pretty decent in so far as they've released a good console with good games. Gaming is definitely better with the xbox. They aint perfect (by a long shot) but they're no worse than Sony or Nintendo. Ninja-Hippo
I agree with you, there's always a check list in sw for everything, but it's the whole package that matters. Ms has delivered that,. Even if I don't pay for live(which is one of their biggest contributions), I still have aot of great quality games for it and in the end that's all that ,matters.
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

HaloinventedFPS

Funny that your username is "haloinventedFPS" and yet it's MS that made halo.

Microsoft made Halo?

Halo was made by bungie, it was also going to be PC exclusive, before Microsoft bought bungie out

Microsoft owned halo when it firstly made. than later port it to pc.
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Who invented Achievements (I'm curious)? You have an answer for all except that.HaloinventedFPS

Highscores and ranks etc have been in gaming since the late 70's

That's not Achievements.
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because it is garbage, Xbox 360 got lucky this gen because Sony stuffed up, so everyone went to the Xbox 360, next gen Microsoft are going to get destroyed if Sony dont stuff up again

HaloinventedFPS

Like i said, despite everything and anything associated with it being complete garbage (apparently) i've somehow managed to buy a **** load of games and enjoy the crap out of it these last five years, just as much as i have any other console.

That's the problem with vague hate threads; there's nothing here to discuss. "I like the Xbox... i love Forza" "NO forza is just a GT clone". Oh ok. I like the xbox because playing Halo is lots of fun online. "NO! Bungie left microsoft so that doesn't count! Halo is casual!"

Oh ok then. You hate the Xbox. And?

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]You know being good for 'the industry' or whatever doesn't simply come down to a check-box list of who did what first. I think Microsoft have been pretty decent in so far as they've released a good console with good games. Gaming is definitely better with the xbox. They aint perfect (by a long shot) but they're no worse than Sony or Nintendo. HaloinventedFPS

good console? Xbox 360 is garbage, so many errors, 60% failure rate

good games? Halo and Gears? Gears is 3rd party and Bungie left Microsoft, Forza? GT clone, Fable? 3 was mediocre, exclusive dlc? PS3 has more exclusive DLC

Y mad? Seems like it.
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#24 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] Funny that your username is "haloinventedFPS" and yet it's MS that made halo.alexside1

Microsoft made Halo?

Halo was made by bungie, it was also going to be PC exclusive, before Microsoft bought bungie out

Microsoft owned halo when it firstly made. than later port it to pc.

In 1999, Bungie announced its next product, Halo, as a first-person action game for Windows and Macintosh.[15]Halo's public unveiling occurred at the Macworld Expo 1999 keynote address by Apple's then-interim-CEO Steve Jobs (after a closed-door screening at E3 in 1999).[15]

On June 19, 2000, soon after Halo's preview at Electronic Entertainment Expo 2000, Microsoft announced that it had acquired Bungie Software

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When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

HaloinventedFPS

the same could be said for sony, what have they done for the industry?

Disc based games? nope, the NEC did it first

hard drive in consoles? Amiga did it first (yes they made a console)

a console that plays movies? the CD-I did it first

a console with an OS for non gaming? The amiga did first again

3D gaming? nope, not them

eyetoy? an advanced dreameye, nothing more

the analog controller? nope, that was atari

rumble? Nintendo

Memory cards? Sega

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#26 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

ohthemanatee

the same could be said for sony, what have they done for the industry?

Disc based games? nope, the NEC did it first

hard drive in consoles? Amiga did it first (yes they made a console)

a console that plays movies? the CD-I did it first

a console with an OS for non gaming? The amiga did first again

3D gaming? nope, not them

Nintendo and Sega was always marketing towards the kiddy crowd, everyone had the idea that gaming was for children, Sony marketed the Playstation towards all ages, hence why it was such a succes

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

HaloinventedFPS

the same could be said for sony, what have they done for the industry?

Disc based games? nope, the NEC did it first

hard drive in consoles? Amiga did it first (yes they made a console)

a console that plays movies? the CD-I did it first

a console with an OS for non gaming? The amiga did first again

3D gaming? nope, not them

Nintendo and Sega was always marketing towards the kiddy crowd, everyone had the idea that gaming was for children, Sony marketed the Playstation towards all ages, hence why it was such a succes

is that why over 50% of owners of a sega genesis in the UK back in the day were over 18 years old?

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once again the term "hardcore" is misused. sigh.

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imho nothing really. if ms quit gaming right this minute, everything will still be fine or even better

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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

ohthemanatee

the same could be said for sony, what have they done for the industry?

Disc based games? nope, the NEC did it first

hard drive in consoles? Amiga did it first (yes they made a console)

a console that plays movies? the CD-I did it first

a console with an OS for non gaming? The amiga did first again

3D gaming? nope, not them

eyetoy? an advanced dreameye, nothing more

the analog controller? nope, that was atari

rumble? Nintendo

Memory cards? Sega

Blu-Ray? Sony. ;)

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

HaloinventedFPS

the same could be said for sony, what have they done for the industry?

Disc based games? nope, the NEC did it first

hard drive in consoles? Amiga did it first (yes they made a console)

a console that plays movies? the CD-I did it first

a console with an OS for non gaming? The amiga did first again

3D gaming? nope, not them

Nintendo and Sega was always marketing towards the kiddy crowd, everyone had the idea that gaming was for children, Sony marketed the Playstation towards all ages, hence why it was such a succes

You sound like one of these kids that picked up his gaming history from a message board. Ninty made some big mistakes with the N64. Thats why the PS brand did so well. Similar to how Sony dropped the ball at the start of this gen and gave MS some room to grow.

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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

the same could be said for sony, what have they done for the industry?

Disc based games? nope, the NEC did it first

hard drive in consoles? Amiga did it first (yes they made a console)

a console that plays movies? the CD-I did it first

a console with an OS for non gaming? The amiga did first again

3D gaming? nope, not them

Nintendo and Sega was always marketing towards the kiddy crowd, everyone had the idea that gaming was for children, Sony marketed the Playstation towards all ages, hence why it was such a succes

You're not helping sony with this comment lol.
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Gonna pull this one out because of maximum appropriateness :P

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]You know being good for 'the industry' or whatever doesn't simply come down to a check-box list of who did what first. I think Microsoft have been pretty decent in so far as they've released a good console with good games. Gaming is definitely better with the xbox. They aint perfect (by a long shot) but they're no worse than Sony or Nintendo. HaloinventedFPS

good console? Xbox 360 is garbage, so many errors, 60% failure rate

good games? Halo and Gears? Gears is 3rd party and Bungie left Microsoft, Forza? GT clone, Fable? 3 was mediocre, exclusive dlc? PS3 has more exclusive DLC

LOL. 9.5 > 8.0. That's all I have to say.

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#35 spinecaton
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You heard it here on system wars first guys, reinventing things the make things 100x better then they were before does not count for doing anything for the industry.

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#36 Merex760
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i can't think of anything other than releasing some quality titles like Gears and Halo.

UnrealLegend
Microsoft had no involvement in the process of creating Halo. They purchased it, like everything else.
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imho nothing really. if ms quit gaming right this minute, everything will still be fine or even better

_SWAG_

R U serious? That would have an awful impact on gaming :? (although it would probably be a dream come true for Nintendo and Sony)

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#38 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

UnrealLegend

the same could be said for sony, what have they done for the industry?

Disc based games? nope, the NEC did it first

hard drive in consoles? Amiga did it first (yes they made a console)

a console that plays movies? the CD-I did it first

a console with an OS for non gaming? The amiga did first again

3D gaming? nope, not them

eyetoy? an advanced dreameye, nothing more

the analog controller? nope, that was atari

rumble? Nintendo

Memory cards? Sega

Blu-Ray? Sony. ;)

so now blu-ray counts as a contribution to gaming? :lol:

oh and in case you didn't notice the first time:

Disc based games? nope, the NEC did it first

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You heard it here on system wars first guys, reinventing things the make things 100x better then they were before does not count for doing anything for the industry.

spinecaton
Exactly. I don't really give a crap that Henry Ford invented the car because my great great great grand poppy invented the unicycle long before that, and the car is merely an advancement of that. What has the car done for the world? NOTHING.
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Gonna pull this one out because of maximum appropriateness :P

Ninja-Hippo

:lol: never gets old.

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#41 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]You know being good for 'the industry' or whatever doesn't simply come down to a check-box list of who did what first. I think Microsoft have been pretty decent in so far as they've released a good console with good games. Gaming is definitely better with the xbox. They aint perfect (by a long shot) but they're no worse than Sony or Nintendo. xXCombatWombat

good console? Xbox 360 is garbage, so many errors, 60% failure rate

good games? Halo and Gears? Gears is 3rd party and Bungie left Microsoft, Forza? GT clone, Fable? 3 was mediocre, exclusive dlc? PS3 has more exclusive DLC

LOL. 9.5 > 8.0. That's all I have to say.

reviews and sales mean nothing, patch 1.5 of GT5 improved anything, more patches to come aswell, all for free

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[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

i can't think of anything other than releasing some quality titles like Gears and Halo.

Merex760

Microsoft had no involvement in the process of creating Halo. They purchased it, like everything else.

I guess so, but it probably wouldn't have been as successful if Microsoft didn't purchase it.

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[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

i can't think of anything other than releasing some quality titles like Gears and Halo.

Merex760

Microsoft had no involvement in the process of creating Halo. They purchased it, like everything else.

they didn't purchase turn 10

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[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

i can't think of anything other than releasing some quality titles like Gears and Halo.

Merex760
Microsoft had no involvement in the process of creating Halo. They purchased it, like everything else.

Well actually they tasked bungie with making it a console game which is what made it change from an RTS to an FPS. :o
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[QUOTE="xXCombatWombat"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

good console? Xbox 360 is garbage, so many errors, 60% failure rate

good games? Halo and Gears? Gears is 3rd party and Bungie left Microsoft, Forza? GT clone, Fable? 3 was mediocre, exclusive dlc? PS3 has more exclusive DLC

HaloinventedFPS

LOL. 9.5 > 8.0. That's all I have to say.

reviews and sales mean nothing, patch 1.5 of GT5 improved anything, more patches to come aswell, all for free

reviews and sales mean nothing, a random person on the internet means everything :lol:

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reviews and sales mean nothing, patch 1.5 of GT5 improved anything, more patches to come aswell, all for free

HaloinventedFPS
Yeah Patch 1 for Halo made it the best game ever made. Of course there's no objective way of proving that, so just take my word for it. Also, assume every sub-AAA game to ever be released on the xbox received a day-one patch which made it a GOTY contender.
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imho nothing really. if ms quit gaming right this minute, everything will still be fine or even better

_SWAG_

Your right, nothing would change because Sony wouldn't have any real competition forcing them to innovate and improve. :roll:

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[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

imho nothing really. if ms quit gaming right this minute, everything will still be fine or even better

UnrealLegend

R U serious? That would have an awful impact on gaming :? (although it would probably be a dream come true for Nintendo and Sony)

Indeed, imagine how PS3 would be for consumers if 360 didn't exist. Probably $400+ with still crappy online.
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#49 fastr
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Doesn't matter if they didn't do it first, they stepped up console online gaming. Again, even if they didn't do achievements first (um, who did it before tho) they still made it better and popular, they made all their devs do it to put a game on the system, and really made it part of the gaming community, so much so that Sony copied them (as usual). They also brought more competition, made sony step up big time. So yeah, those are just some of the positive things they've done.
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#50 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="xXCombatWombat"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

good console? Xbox 360 is garbage, so many errors, 60% failure rate

good games? Halo and Gears? Gears is 3rd party and Bungie left Microsoft, Forza? GT clone, Fable? 3 was mediocre, exclusive dlc? PS3 has more exclusive DLC

HaloinventedFPS

LOL. 9.5 > 8.0. That's all I have to say.

reviews and sales mean nothing, patch 1.5 of GT5 improved anything, more patches to come aswell, all for free

Outrun is better then GT because it came out first and so Gran Turismo brought nothing to the table even when it was first launched.