What has Microsoft done for the Video Game industry?

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

No, that's Sony. At least as far as gaming goes.

ohthemanatee

"The problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have no taste and I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way"

and what has sony contributed to the gaming industry?

here sir...

oh boy, yet another one of THESE posts.

first off Microsoft changed the game and are STILL changing the game. they introduced Hard drives to home consoles back in 2002 and the First real Online service ( Xbox Live ) that WORKED.

they regained control of the gaming industry from japan and put it back in the hands of american developers like activision and EA.

they just reinvented the wheel by creating Kinect. instead of a direct copy of the Wii-mote ( Sony Move ) Kinect is a hands free peripheral that is changing the way we look at the stagnating genre of gaming. sure its loaded with crap now, but that will all change soon.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY THEY ended Sonys stranglehold on gaming here in the US and abroad and people whos first console was a PlayStation cant accept that.

i own BOTH a PS3 and a 360 like any smart gamer or journalist but the facts are that after 6 years of this current console race MS has beaten Sony at every turn. in fact its Sony who has stopped Innovating and are now in the odd position of playing catch up to both Wii and the 360.

HOW YOU SAY? How about the PSN Plus network years after MS charged for Xbox live and Sony after years of seeing MS make BILIONS off of live had to re-evaluate things. or mayby the Sony Move which BLANTANTLY rips off the Wii-Mote and countless other things. should i continue TC?

Microsoft has dominated PS3 in software and hardware sales and Kinect has totally outsold MOve nearly 13 to 1 and at this point i think '' What has MS done for gaming or MS sucks post arent doing anything to help Sony at this point who Genuinely deserves the fans ire for Royaly botching this Generation.

for all the hate posts you see hourly on this site nothing is changing the fact that the battle at this point stopped bieng about Xbox 360 vs PS3 or what has MS done for gaming a LONG time ago, but more less a battle of what can we the fans do to Fix Sony, IF thats even feasable at this point!

every year since 2006 its been Wii and 360 raking in the dough and PS3 on the outside looking in, its management too busy making Kevin Butler commercials and putting laughably low amounts of money into marketing while telling its fan base '' We know what were doing'' Kinect sold more than MOVE because MS put insane amounts of money into Advertising, were Sony, we dont have to Advertise!

this whole sidestepping is made all the worse by people like the TC and MS detractors who instead of questioning WHY Killzone 3, Infamous 2, LBP 2 and the rest of Sonys Exclusives ( Uncharted 3 not withstanding ) are largely going to go Unnoticed this year , ( just like last year judging by this holidays NPD results where not ONE Sony exclusive made the top 10 sellers list ) instead continue to make MS hate posts and ''This is the year of the PS3'' posts for the 6th year in a row, all while Burrying thier heads in the sand to the state that Sony is Really in.

until Sony can turn a Significant profit with PS3 i dont see this scenario changing any and most of you know it By now.

Microsoft used their 1 year head start on Sony to one up them and people just cant ( or wont ) digest this.

i think that is the prime reason why we still see all this childish MS hate this far into the seventh generation of gaming.

peeps need to just accept that Sony isnt number one anymore and move on.

the rest of us have already.

oh boy, yet another one of THESE posts.

first off Microsoft changed the game and are STILL changing the game. they introduced Hard drives to home consoles back in 2002 and the First real Online service ( Xbox Live ) that WORKED.

they regained control of the gaming industry from japan and put it back in the hands of american developers like activision and EA.

they just reinvented the wheel by creating Kinect. instead of a direct copy of the Wii-mote ( Sony Move ) Kinect is a hands free peripheral that is changing the way we look at the stagnating genre of gaming. sure its loaded with crap now, but that will all change soon.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY THEY ended Sonys stranglehold on gaming here in the US and abroad and people whos first console was a PlayStation cant accept that.

i own BOTH a PS3 and a 360 like any smart gamer or journalist but the facts are that after 6 years of this current console race MS has beaten Sony at every turn. in fact its Sony who has stopped Innovating and are now in the odd position of playing catch up to both Wii and the 360.

HOW YOU SAY? How about the PSN Plus network years after MS charged for Xbox live and Sony after years of seeing MS make BILIONS off of live had to re-evaluate things. or mayby the Sony Move which BLANTANTLY rips off the Wii-Mote and countless other things. should i continue TC?

Microsoft has dominated PS3 in software and hardware sales and Kinect has totally outsold MOve nearly 13 to 1 and at this point i think '' What has MS done for gaming or MS sucks post arent doing anything to help Sony at this point who Genuinely deserves the fans ire for Royaly botching this Generation.

for all the hate posts you see hourly on this site nothing is changing the fact that the battle at this point stopped bieng about Xbox 360 vs PS3 or what has MS done for gaming a LONG time ago, but more less a battle of what can we the fans do to Fix Sony, IF thats even feasable at this point!

every year since 2006 its been Wii and 360 raking in the dough and PS3 on the outside looking in, its management too busy making Kevin Butler commercials and putting laughably low amounts of money into marketing while telling its fan base '' We know what were doing'' Kinect sold more than MOVE because MS put insane amounts of money into Advertising, were Sony, we dont have to Advertise!

this whole sidestepping is made all the worse by people like the TC and MS detractors who instead of questioning WHY Killzone 3, Infamous 2, LBP 2 and the rest of Sonys Exclusives ( Uncharted 3 not withstanding ) are largely going to go Unnoticed this year , ( just like last year judging by this holidays NPD results where not ONE Sony exclusive made the top 10 sellers list ) instead continue to make MS hate posts and ''This is the year of the PS3'' posts for the 6th year in a row, all while Burrying thier heads in the sand to the state that Sony is Really in.

until Sony can turn a Significant profit with PS3 i dont see this scenario changing any and most of you know it By now.

Microsoft used their 1 year head start on Sony to one up them and people just cant ( or wont ) digest this.

i think that is the prime reason why we still see all this childish MS hate this far into the seventh generation of gaming.

peeps need to just accept that Sony isnt number one anymore and move on.

the rest of us have already.

bryn8150

I'd say standardizing things on consoles like HDDs, Online Gaming, Broadband Accessibility, Wireless controllers, Achievements. None of those things are new, but MS was the first one to include those as a standard package and change the expectation such that it is a requirement. One thing they also helped do is refocus the console industry towards more traditionally PC like genres/titles like WRPGs and FPS. Whether that is a good thing, or is resulting in a reduction in the diversity of game offerings is arguable, but there it is.

1. Awesome online service on consoles still unmatched by competitors. I say gaming industry would be almost dead today if Xbox didnt promote online gaming to consoles
2. Introduced HDDs to consoles
3. Introduced the greatest controller ever
4. Standard Wireless Controllers
5. Achievements, another + for gaming industry.

Harisemo

1. That holds P2P ransom. Most people pay for "the excellent service" for the P2P.

2. PS2 did.

3. That runs on AA batteries with a headset port that sucks juice from batteries.

4. Wii and PS3 made wireless controllers a standard. Not all 360 controllers are wireless.

5. Derp.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]You know being good for 'the industry' or whatever doesn't simply come down to a check-box list of who did what first. I think Microsoft have been pretty decent in so far as they've released a good console with good games. Gaming is definitely better with the xbox. They aint perfect (by a long shot) but they're no worse than Sony or Nintendo. HaloinventedFPS

good console? Xbox 360 is garbage, so many errors, 60% failure rate

good games? Halo and Gears? Gears is 3rd party and Bungie left Microsoft, Forza? GT clone, Fable? 3 was mediocre, exclusive dlc? PS3 has more exclusive DLC

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 60% failure rate.

The first, and the most susceptible to failures, had a 17% failure rate -- which is ridiculously high, but not even close to 60%.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]You know being good for 'the industry' or whatever doesn't simply come down to a check-box list of who did what first. I think Microsoft have been pretty decent in so far as they've released a good console with good games. Gaming is definitely better with the xbox. They aint perfect (by a long shot) but they're no worse than Sony or Nintendo. iAtrocious

good console? Xbox 360 is garbage, so many errors, 60% failure rate

good games? Halo and Gears? Gears is 3rd party and Bungie left Microsoft, Forza? GT clone, Fable? 3 was mediocre, exclusive dlc? PS3 has more exclusive DLC

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 60% failure rate.

The first, and the most susceptible to failures, had a 17% failure rate -- which is ridiculously high, but not even close to 60%.

Nice propaganda. The first 360 I ever dealt with magically had its DVD drive crap out on me. According to the owner, he had it serviced for RROD twice already.

microsoft popularized online gaming for consoles, and they release a lot of quality games that i have been enjoying for years. obvious fanboy thread is obvious.

The reason I favor the PS3 is because of its exclusives. I like the games more on PlayStation than Xbox. Without the Xbox, there wouldn't be competition and the PS3 wouldn't be where it's at today. Although MS didn't bring online to consoles first, but they revolutionized it. Without the 360, PSN wouldn't be like it is now. Companies need competition to be better in their technology and this is why.

Popularize online gaming on consoles, Dreamcast may have done online gaming before it but not much to make it where it is today thanks to Xbox.

What Microsoft contributed? Hmm...

1. Online subscription.
2. Microtransactions up the ass.
3. Made Halo from an open world game to a copy paste corridor shooter.
4. Made people exercise by making them get off their fat asses and send their ROD 360's to the repair shop.
5. Sleeping-in-an-airplane simulator with your 360 console on while trying to sleep.
6. Scratched DVD's
7. Splitting the userbase with arcade bundle (they can't play mmorpg's)

What Microsoft contributed? Hmm...


3. Made Halo from an open world game to a copy paste corridor shooter.

Shiroibwoy

that game was never open world to begin with.

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]

"The problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have no taste and I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way"

killzonexbox

I said Sony, not Apple. :| Here.

What Microsoft contributed? Hmm...

1. Online subscription.
2. Microtransactions up the ass.
3. Made Halo from an open world game to a copy paste corridor shooter.
4. Made people exercise by making them get off their fat asses and send their ROD 360's to the repair shop.
5. Sleeping-in-an-airplane simulator with your 360 console on while trying to sleep.
6. Scratched DVD's
7. Splitting the userbase with arcade bundle (they can't play mmorpg's)

Shiroibwoy

I approve this post.

What has MS done for the gaming industry you ask?

They ruined it and made it all about milking the gamers for as much as possible.

the same could be said for sony, what have they done for the industry?ohthemanatee

they just reinvented the wheel by creating Kinect. instead of a direct copy of the Wii-mote ( Sony Move ) Kinect is a hands free peripheral that is changing the way we look at the stagnating genre of gaming. sure its loaded with crap now, but that will all change soon.bryn8150

What has MS done for the gaming industry you ask?

They ruined it and made it all about milking the gamers for as much as possible.

USS_Data

Dude.. why do you think they're called cows?

The list, it be a long one so suffice to say; they brought arguably the finest most complete FPS and sim racing game to consoles along with a boat load of cash and prestige to the VG Ind.

Oh and don't forget the best new this gen franchise.... Mass Effect. :P

Singlehandedly moved the gaming industry from MS-DOS to Windows by developing the Direct-X APIs.

topsemag55

this.

and xboxes.

Oh and don't forget the best new this gen franchise.... Mass Effect. :P

SecretPolice

developed by BioWare (currently subsidiary of EA), not Microsoft. they only have a meaningful role as a game publisher. their 1st party devs are meh...

[QUOTE="bryn8150"]they just reinvented the wheel by creating Kinect. instead of a direct copy of the Wii-mote ( Sony Move ) Kinect is a hands free peripheral that is changing the way we look at the stagnating genre of gaming. sure its loaded with crap now, but that will all change soon.Kane04

developed by BioWare (currently subsidiary of EA), not Microsoft. they only have a meaningful role as a game publisher. their 1st party devs are meh...

groowagon

Turn 10 is meh?

[QUOTE="groowagon"]

developed by BioWare (currently subsidiary of EA), not Microsoft. they only have a meaningful role as a game publisher. their 1st party devs are meh...

waltefmoney

Turn 10 is meh?

i had to google that, since it didn't say anyhting to me, but yeah. i don't own xbox, so i've never played a single Forza-game.

propably good games, but they don't mean anything to me.

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

Singlehandedly moved the gaming industry from MS-DOS to Windows by developing the Direct-X APIs.

groowagon

this.

and xboxes.

Oh and don't forget the best new this gen franchise.... Mass Effect. :P

SecretPolice

developed by BioWare (currently subsidiary of EA), not Microsoft. they only have a meaningful role as a game publisher. their 1st party devs are meh...

i had to google that, since it didn't say anyhting to me, but yeah. i don't own xbox, so i've never played a single Forza-game.

propably good games, but they don't mean anything to me.

groowagon

So it's meh even though you've never played it?

[QUOTE="groowagon"]

i had to google that, since it didn't say anyhting to me, but yeah. i don't own xbox, so i've never played a single Forza-game.

propably good games, but they don't mean anything to me.

waltefmoney

So it's meh even though you've never played it?

i mean i don't give a *dirty word* about that series. i don't care if Turn 10 exists or not.

[QUOTE="Shiroibwoy"]

What Microsoft contributed? Hmm...

1. Online subscription.
2. Microtransactions up the ass.
3. Made Halo from an open world game to a copy paste corridor shooter.
4. Made people exercise by making them get off their fat asses and send their ROD 360's to the repair shop.
5. Sleeping-in-an-airplane simulator with your 360 console on while trying to sleep.
6. Scratched DVD's
7. Splitting the userbase with arcade bundle (they can't play mmorpg's)

kuraimen

I approve this post.

1) Granted, but they are not the only company in gaming to charge for subscription - take mmo's

2) Would've occurred anyway as the emphasis shifted to digital downloads.

3) No, just no. Halo CE was an FPS and as one in it's genre, was fairly open anyway for 2001.

4) Just phone them up and they deliver a box and pick it up - silly complaint though.

5) Turn off your 360 whilst you're sleeping? Why do you need an electrical device like a games console on 24/7? Probably contributes to RROD.

6) Only occured once with me, and that was due to me tipping the console. My fault.

7) Granted, but they did make the difference between them very clear.

They've made an army of fanchildren think that paying $60/year to unlock the online play in the games they've bought is really cool.

When you think about it, they havent done anything, at least Sony have done some things

Online gaming service - Blizzard did it first, Blizzard also did it better and for free

Achievements - Microsoft didnt invent this at all

Matchmaking - Bungie/Microsoft invented it ammirite? no Starcraft invented it, Bungie did revolutionize it for consoles, ill give them that

DLC - Pretty sure EA invented this with The Sims, Microsoft isnt too blame for DLC, either way DLC is cancer

Bro gamers - lol, that was Playstation, Bro gamers moved to Xbox 360 this gen since it was cheaper than 599 US DOLLARS

Hardcore gamers - playing COD/Halo doesnt make you Hardcore, infact both those games are very casual

Kinect - advanced eyetoy, nothing more, nothing less

So have Microsoft done anything? they just seem to be leeching

HaloinventedFPS

1. Achievements

2. Pioneered Console DLC/Console Downloadable Games/Console Multiplayer Gaming (XBL)

3. Ushered in the HD era

4. Halo/Gears of War

...that is all

XBL and every thing it offers.

Isn't it great to know the mods will lock the anti-Sony post yet do nomthing about the Anti-MS post?