What is a worse release travesty? Street Fighter V vs. The Master Chief Collection

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Poll What is a worse release travesty? Street Fighter V vs. The Master Chief Collection (121 votes)

Street Fighter V 32%
The Master Chief Collection 68%

One game releasing in a clearly incomplete state with multiple rudimentary fighting modes missing plus the lack of its touted story mode, or the other releasing with unforeseen open network bugs which mostly collapsed its match making functionality?

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#101 mark1974
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@ellos said:
@mark1974 said:
@spicymeatball27 said:

It doesnt even have a Arcade mode or 1 vs 1 against the computer lmao.

I cant be bothered to read this whole thread but that bit caught my eye. Seriously! That can't possibly be right? If it is then holy shit!

Holy shit that's missing too? Now that I think about it, I take back what I said about this post @nyadc. It is a release travesty and the question is legitimate. My vote still goes to Halo though. They should be more anger towards this especially on ps4. 60$ for this shit.

I'm dying over here! There is going to be a patch? Free right? I'm going to have a stroke if someone doesn't fill me in.

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@nyadc said:
@Dire_Weasel said:

Is Street Fighter V a broken, unplayable mess? No?

Then Halo: MCC is the worst release travesty. Glad we could clear that up for you.

Another baby brain discounting the entire other side of the game while acting like things gutted from Street Fighter V are not a big deal, hypocritical bunch of apes.

Halo: The Master Chief Collection

Things that worked.

  • Four full single player campaigns
  • Cooperative play
  • Local multiplayer
  • Lobby based multiplayer

Things that didn't work.

  • Match Making

Street Fighter V

Things missing from the game.

  • Combo trials
  • Multi-person lobbies
  • Live spectating
  • Arcade mode
  • CPU play
  • Main story mode
  • Difficulty settings

Things in the game.

  • Online multiplayer
  • Survival mode
  • Single round player prologues fights

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Do you want to know some synonyms for broken in the Oxford Dictionary?

  • Divided
  • Fractured
  • Split
  • In bits
  • In pieces
  • Fragmented

Do you want to know an antonym for broken in the Oxford Dictionary?

  • Whole

What is Street Fighter V? It's definitely not whole, oh I know what it is, it's....

  • Divided
  • Fractured
  • Split
  • In bits
  • In pieces
  • Fragmented

It's Broken.

All that stuff that comes out within the next 2 weeks, good lord this guy is a clown.

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#103 deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@naughtyottsel: They should have waited 2 weeks to release the full game then.

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#104 mark1974
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@mesome713: Yeah no shit! Whats really going on?

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@lamprey263 said:

SFV. From the Review In Progress...

There are no difficulty settings. It has a laughably easy and short story campaign for each character. And by short, I mean they can last anywhere between two and four fights from beginning to end... based on my experience, you can complete everything in the story mode, for all characters, in less than an hour total, by doing nothing more than repeatedly sweeping the legs of your opponents.

Wow, that's embarrassing. lol

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@mesome713 said:

@naughtyottsel: They should have waited 2 weeks to release the full game then.

They should have yes but how can a fully functional game be remotely compared to a broken travesty?

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#107  Edited By mark1974
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@naughtyottsel: I don't want to play online! I want to learn the game against the computer and then invite friends over to play. That's pretty fucking broken to me. Not to mention the other 90% of the time I don't have friends over.

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@naughtyottsel: Im guessing cause both games have missing content. Although the remasters almost everyone owns, nobody owns SF5.

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@mesome713: I regretted buying Splatoon. It was fun during the test but I saw that it would get old very fast for me and like a weak after buying the game I was already bored with it.

The single player campaign was also very lacking, easy to finish and lacked some kind of theme, it didn't felt like you progressed as everything looked the same and sadly only the last boss was interesting.

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@Coco_pierrot: Im still loving it. The single player campaign has been praise as having one of the best boss fights of the year. It was awesome fun innovative platforming. My favorite is how you progress online and buy new stuff in the game, its amazing.

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#111 deactivated-58bd60b980002
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If it is true about SFV ... then it is the worst thing ever, worst than Halo

It sounds like Capcom doesn't have that much money to complet the game and so when people pay for it, it gave them enough to complet the rest of the crappy fighter.

I wonder what is on the disc ... if the whole game is already there and they will unlock the stuff ... then s*** Capcom will make the list of crappy developper/publisher

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#112  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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Take your pick. Would you rather have a lack of playable content or a wealth of unplayable content?

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I was not expecting a Nyadc meltdown regarding SFV. I gave him too much credit.

And no matter how much you criticize this game's launch we are going to be enjoying ourselves playing it while you pour salt.

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@mesome713: I clearly don't share your feelings toward this game

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@Coco_pierrot: True, but dont feel bad being in the minority, its just how it is.

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@lamprey263 said:

SFV. From the Review In Progress...

There are no difficulty settings. It has a laughably easy and short story campaign for each character. And by short, I mean they can last anywhere between two and four fights from beginning to end... based on my experience, you can complete everything in the story mode, for all characters, in less than an hour total, by doing nothing more than repeatedly sweeping the legs of your opponents.

You've gotta be joking me. clearly capcom aren't taking things as seriously as they used to

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#117  Edited By Bigboi500
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@lawlessx said:
@lamprey263 said:

SFV. From the Review In Progress...

There are no difficulty settings. It has a laughably easy and short story campaign for each character. And by short, I mean they can last anywhere between two and four fights from beginning to end... based on my experience, you can complete everything in the story mode, for all characters, in less than an hour total, by doing nothing more than repeatedly sweeping the legs of your opponents.

You've gotta be joking me. clearly capcom aren't taking things as seriously as they used to

Capcom is just pushing the envelope with what the consumer will buy. Last gen they'd release the basic SF game, then the SSF game, then the SSF Ultimate etc. and now they're releasing the barest of products and believe people will buy an unfinished product. The worst part is they're right. By next gen they'll just release fractured code in dlc segments.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

I was not expecting a Nyadc meltdown regarding SFV. I gave him too much credit.

And no matter how much you criticize this game's launch we are going to be enjoying ourselves playing it while you pour salt.

StrongBlackVine, I respect you and enjoy your posts. But it's pretty hard to gloat at the moment. We should probably figure out what the hell is really going on with this game before we delve deep into the systems wars. I think that stuff is funny as the next guy and I enjoy making Xbots feel dumb on occasion but this game is looking screwed up at the moment! Rise above the Lem damage control type thing, you are better, no?

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@mark1974 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

I was not expecting a Nyadc meltdown regarding SFV. I gave him too much credit.

And no matter how much you criticize this game's launch we are going to be enjoying ourselves playing it while you pour salt.

StrongBlackVine, I respect you and enjoy your posts. But it's pretty hard to gloat at the moment. We should probably figure out what the hell is really going on with this game before we delve deep into the systems wars. I think that stuff is funny as the next guy and I enjoy making Xbots feel dumb on occasion but this game is looking screwed up at the moment! Rise above the Lem damage control type thing, you are better, no?

This isn't even damage control, I want people to understand their own hypocrisy, the way they create exemptions for the things they like, the way they downplay the severity of things taking place because it serves their interests yet violently attack things that serve the interests of others.

This is a big fucking deal, big enough to the point that people should be outright refusing to buy the game, instead they're irrationally defending it.

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@aigis said:

I find it really weird that SFV is doing what Splatoon did, but everyone praises Splatoon... Probably cause SFV is more in the System wars conflict between xbone and ps4

Or because Splatoon added that shit for free later while Capcom is obviously going to milk a few iterations for cash.

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#121  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@mark1974 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

I was not expecting a Nyadc meltdown regarding SFV. I gave him too much credit.

And no matter how much you criticize this game's launch we are going to be enjoying ourselves playing it while you pour salt.

StrongBlackVine, I respect you and enjoy your posts. But it's pretty hard to gloat at the moment. We should probably figure out what the hell is really going on with this game before we delve deep into the systems wars. I think that stuff is funny as the next guy and I enjoy making Xbots feel dumb on occasion but this game is looking screwed up at the moment! Rise above the Lem damage control type thing, you are better, no?

How is the game looking screwed up? I've been participating in the beta since the first one so unless they went backwards I don't see it. Yeah it's lacking content, but we knew that already and if that is problem for any just wait a few months and you will get the full package. I only care about online play so I'm fine with the current offerings to start.

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@Big_Pecks said:
@aigis said:

I find it really weird that SFV is doing what Splatoon did, but everyone praises Splatoon... Probably cause SFV is more in the System wars conflict between xbone and ps4

Or because Splatoon added that shit for free later while Capcom is obviously going to milk a few iterations for cash.

Capcom is adding the additional modes as free updates. Basically the same thing Splatoon did.

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#123  Edited By mark1974
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@StrongBlackVine said:
@mark1974 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

I was not expecting a Nyadc meltdown regarding SFV. I gave him too much credit.

And no matter how much you criticize this game's launch we are going to be enjoying ourselves playing it while you pour salt.

StrongBlackVine, I respect you and enjoy your posts. But it's pretty hard to gloat at the moment. We should probably figure out what the hell is really going on with this game before we delve deep into the systems wars. I think that stuff is funny as the next guy and I enjoy making Xbots feel dumb on occasion but this game is looking screwed up at the moment! Rise above the Lem damage control type thing, you are better, no?

How is the game looking screwed up? I've been participating in the beta since the first one so unless they went backwards I don't see it. Yeah it's lacking content, but we knew that already and if that is problem for any just wait a few months and you will get the full package. I only care about online play so I'm fine with the current offerings to start.

No single player against cpu is pretty damn screwed up! It's really the FIRST thing that should have been added! A few months!

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#124  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@nyadc said:
@mark1974 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

I was not expecting a Nyadc meltdown regarding SFV. I gave him too much credit.

And no matter how much you criticize this game's launch we are going to be enjoying ourselves playing it while you pour salt.

StrongBlackVine, I respect you and enjoy your posts. But it's pretty hard to gloat at the moment. We should probably figure out what the hell is really going on with this game before we delve deep into the systems wars. I think that stuff is funny as the next guy and I enjoy making Xbots feel dumb on occasion but this game is looking screwed up at the moment! Rise above the Lem damage control type thing, you are better, no?

This isn't even damage control, I want people to understand their own hypocrisy, the way they create exemptions for the things they like, the way they downplay the severity of things taking place because it serves their interests yet violently attack things that serve the interests of others.

This is a big fucking deal, big enough to the point that people should be outright refusing to buy the game, instead they're irrationally defending it.

There is no way in Hell you would be calling for a boycott if this was not a PlayStation console exclusive. Did you call for boycotts on Splatoon or Evolve?

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@StrongBlackVine said:
@nyadc said:
@mark1974 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

I was not expecting a Nyadc meltdown regarding SFV. I gave him too much credit.

And no matter how much you criticize this game's launch we are going to be enjoying ourselves playing it while you pour salt.

StrongBlackVine, I respect you and enjoy your posts. But it's pretty hard to gloat at the moment. We should probably figure out what the hell is really going on with this game before we delve deep into the systems wars. I think that stuff is funny as the next guy and I enjoy making Xbots feel dumb on occasion but this game is looking screwed up at the moment! Rise above the Lem damage control type thing, you are better, no?

This isn't even damage control, I want people to understand their own hypocrisy, the way they create exemptions for the things they like, the way they downplay the severity of things taking place because it serves their interests yet violently attack things that serve the interests of others.

This is a big fucking deal, big enough to the point that people should be outright refusing to buy the game, instead they're irrationally defending it.

There is no way in Hell you would be calling for a boycott if this was not a PlayStation console exclusive. Did you call for boycotts on Splatoon or Evolve?

+Killer Instinct...

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#126  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@mark1974 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@mark1974 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

I was not expecting a Nyadc meltdown regarding SFV. I gave him too much credit.

And no matter how much you criticize this game's launch we are going to be enjoying ourselves playing it while you pour salt.

StrongBlackVine, I respect you and enjoy your posts. But it's pretty hard to gloat at the moment. We should probably figure out what the hell is really going on with this game before we delve deep into the systems wars. I think that stuff is funny as the next guy and I enjoy making Xbots feel dumb on occasion but this game is looking screwed up at the moment! Rise above the Lem damage control type thing, you are better, no?

How is the game looking screwed up? I've been participating in the beta since the first one so unless they went backwards I don't see it. Yeah it's lacking content, but we knew that already and if that is problem for any just wait a few months and you will get the full package. I only care about online play so I'm fine with the current offerings to start.

No single player against cpu is pretty damn screwed up! It's really the FIRST thing that should have been added! A few months!

Don't buy it until the single player update is released then. Messed up implies that content that is currently in the game is not functioning properly.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@nyadc said:

This isn't even damage control, I want people to understand their own hypocrisy, the way they create exemptions for the things they like, the way they downplay the severity of things taking place because it serves their interests yet violently attack things that serve the interests of others.

This is a big fucking deal, big enough to the point that people should be outright refusing to buy the game, instead they're irrationally defending it.

There is no way in Hell you would be calling for a boycott if this was not a PlayStation console exclusive. Did you call for boycotts on Splatoon or Evolve?

+Killer Instinct...

I paid zero attention to Splatoon, it's actually the only Wii U exclusive I do not own because it interests me in zero capacity, and as far as Evolve is concerned, absolutely, just not here, I slanted that game into oblivion on the Steam forums.

P.S. Killer Instinct, free to play micro-transaction based expanding fighter =/= a $60 paid fighter that is incomplete no matter how you try to spin it.

P.P.S. This is all irrelevant to the discussion at hand, you're attempting to scapegoat what has taken place here.

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#128 mark1974
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@StrongBlackVine said:
@mark1974 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@mark1974 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

I was not expecting a Nyadc meltdown regarding SFV. I gave him too much credit.

And no matter how much you criticize this game's launch we are going to be enjoying ourselves playing it while you pour salt.

StrongBlackVine, I respect you and enjoy your posts. But it's pretty hard to gloat at the moment. We should probably figure out what the hell is really going on with this game before we delve deep into the systems wars. I think that stuff is funny as the next guy and I enjoy making Xbots feel dumb on occasion but this game is looking screwed up at the moment! Rise above the Lem damage control type thing, you are better, no?

How is the game looking screwed up? I've been participating in the beta since the first one so unless they went backwards I don't see it. Yeah it's lacking content, but we knew that already and if that is problem for any just wait a few months and you will get the full package. I only care about online play so I'm fine with the current offerings to start.

No single player against cpu is pretty damn screwed up! It's really the FIRST thing that should have been added! A few months!

Don't buy it until the single player update is released then. Messed up implies that content that is currently in the game is not functioning properly.

I'm not at all a fan of this releasing a game totally unfinished for full price and hoping for the best down the line. I will definitely wait. This practice needs to stop! Why do we support it? I guess I'm just old fashioned?

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#129  Edited By deactivated-58bd60b980002
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@Bigboi500: you know they did exactly that with SFII back in the SNES days

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@Coco_pierrot said:

@Bigboi500: you know they did exactly that with SFII back in the SNES days

They never released a Street Fighter on Snes without single player. I can assure you of that!

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#131  Edited By JangoWuzHere
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I'll say Street Fighter V. That game is clearly being released unfinished. They're trying to rush it out for Capcom Pro Tour and EVO.

It's sad, I think fighting games could be waaay bigger. Shit like this just turns off newcomers completely.

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#132  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@mark1974 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@mark1974 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

How is the game looking screwed up? I've been participating in the beta since the first one so unless they went backwards I don't see it. Yeah it's lacking content, but we knew that already and if that is problem for any just wait a few months and you will get the full package. I only care about online play so I'm fine with the current offerings to start.

No single player against cpu is pretty damn screwed up! It's really the FIRST thing that should have been added! A few months!

Don't buy it until the single player update is released then. Messed up implies that content that is currently in the game is not functioning properly.

I'm not at all a fan of this releasing a game totally unfinished for full price and hoping for the best down the line. I will definitely wait. This practice needs to stop! Why do we support it? I guess I'm just old fashioned?

I'm buying it now because I don't play fighting games for the single player or story. I want to train and play against people online. Would it be ideal if they had waited for full package to be complete before releasing the game? Yes, but I'm getting what I want right now and all missing content will be updated for free. I also got the game for $37 and I doubt it will cost less than that in June.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

I'm buying it now because I don't play fighting games for the single player or story. I want to train and play against people online. Would it be ideal if they had waited for full package to be complete before releasing the game? Yes, but I'm getting what I want right now and all missing content will be updated for free. I also got the game for $37 and I doubt it will cost less than that in June.

I'm happy for you and hope you enjoy it. It's still a real boneheaded move and will turn people away. It just doesn't make any sense.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

I'm getting what I want right now and all missing content will be updated for free.

If only you people had this attitude in a mirrored reality with The Master Chief Collection for the people who were more in it for the single player, co-op &couch multiplayer...

NOPE, WHOLE GAME IS FUCKED!

#JokesTime

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@nyadc: That whole game was fucked at the time, and so is this one. What you gonna do?

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#136  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@nyadc said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

I'm getting what I want right now and all missing content will be updated for free.

If only you people had this attitude in a mirrored reality with The Master Chief Collection for the people who were more in it for the single player, co-op &couch multiplayer...

NOPE, WHOLE GAME IS FUCKED!

#JokesTime

Halo MCC got really good reviews and sold a ton despite its problems. The same thing will likely happen for SFV. Why are you acting as if MCC flopped?

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@mark1974 said:

@nyadc: That whole game was fucked at the time, and so is this one. What you gonna do?

Neither one is/was fucked, that is the point, they're both just missing out on huge parts of their content for reasons that lead to the same end.

Partially broken? Partially missing content? It doesn't matter, they both fucked up big time.

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#138 FireEmblem_Man
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So this is the paid exclusive Sony bought? LOL! At least MS gave Crystal Dynamics and Square Enix to perfect Rise of the Tomb Raider!

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#139  Edited By NyaDC
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@StrongBlackVine said:

Halo MCC got really good reviews and sold a ton despite its problems. The same thing will likely happen for SFV. Why are you acting as if MCC flopped?

I'm not, I would just appreciate to see more out of this community, hold everything to the same standards objectively, and it just doesn't happen.

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#140 mark1974
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@nyadc "Neither one is/was fucked, that is the point, they're both just missing out on huge parts of their content for reasons"

If it's all the same to you I'm going to define that as "fucked".

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#141 silversix_
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nya tried to down SF because its on ps4 *omfg i know!!! teh ps4* but failed miserably. Better luck next time. Please try harder and improve your skills.

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@silversix_ said:

nya tried to down SF because its on ps4 *omfg i know!!! teh ps4* but failed miserably. Better luck next time. Please try harder and improve your skills.

He's probably been sitting on this thread for a year to get "payback" for everyone making fun of the most broken release in gaming history the MCC.

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#143 NyaDC
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@silversix_ said:

nya tried to down SF because its on ps4 *omfg i know!!! teh ps4* but failed miserably. Better luck next time. Please try harder and improve your skills.

He's probably been sitting on this thread for a year to get "payback" for everyone making fun of the most broken release in gaming history the MCC.

Literally came to me today, and at its core it has nothing to do with the games themselves, it's the double standards and hypocrisy which has given this topic life.

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#144  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@nyadc said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@nyadc said:

This isn't even damage control, I want people to understand their own hypocrisy, the way they create exemptions for the things they like, the way they downplay the severity of things taking place because it serves their interests yet violently attack things that serve the interests of others.

This is a big fucking deal, big enough to the point that people should be outright refusing to buy the game, instead they're irrationally defending it.

There is no way in Hell you would be calling for a boycott if this was not a PlayStation console exclusive. Did you call for boycotts on Splatoon or Evolve?

+Killer Instinct...

I paid zero attention to Splatoon, it's actually the only Wii U exclusive I do not own because it interests me in zero capacity, and as far as Evolve is concerned, absolutely, just not here, I slanted that game into oblivion on the Steam forums.

P.S. Killer Instinct, free to play micro-transaction based expanding fighter =/= a $60 paid fighter that is incomplete no matter how you try to spin it.

P.P.S. This is all irrelevant to the discussion at hand, you're attempting to scapegoat what has taken place here.

Isn't a f2p game by definition an incomplete game until you pay to unlock it all? KI launched for free but with one scrub character. Each character was $5 per, which if you compare the SF, would have cost $80, since SF comes with 16 fighters already. So how are you mad at Capcom, when they've been upfront about content that would be added for free later when they are ready, and not mad at MS for breaking up a game and selling it piece by piece?

Nothing has "taken place" here. It's all in your head because you want to be mad at Sony and this is the only thing you can do. The only one spinning here is you. Take a seat before you get dizzy and hurt yourself.

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#145 NathanDrakeSwag
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@nyadc said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@silversix_ said:

nya tried to down SF because its on ps4 *omfg i know!!! teh ps4* but failed miserably. Better luck next time. Please try harder and improve your skills.

He's probably been sitting on this thread for a year to get "payback" for everyone making fun of the most broken release in gaming history the MCC.

Literally came to me today, and at its core it has nothing to do with the games themselves, it's the double standards and hypocrisy which has given this topic life.

What double standards? The content SFV does have is all perfectly playable. Can't say the same for MCC.

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#146  Edited By NyaDC
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@Zero_epyon said:
@nyadc said:

I paid zero attention to Splatoon, it's actually the only Wii U exclusive I do not own because it interests me in zero capacity, and as far as Evolve is concerned, absolutely, just not here, I slanted that game into oblivion on the Steam forums.

P.S. Killer Instinct, free to play micro-transaction based expanding fighter =/= a $60 paid fighter that is incomplete no matter how you try to spin it.

P.P.S. This is all irrelevant to the discussion at hand, you're attempting to scapegoat what has taken place here.

Isn't a f2p game by definition an incomplete game until you pay to unlock it all? KI launched for free but with one scrub character. Each character was $5 per, which if you compare the SF, would have cost $80, since SF comes with 16 fighters already. So how are you mad at Capcom, when they've been upfront about content that would be added for free later when they are ready, and not mad at MS for breaking up a game and selling it piece by piece?

No, it's structured to bring in money, that's why it has no cost to bring in players, everything is there it's just behind a paywall, there's nothing incomplete. It was $5 for individual characters so people could just buy one or two that they would actually want to use, or you just spend $20 and get them all... You forgot about that didn't you. Also it's a game that was structured to be added to and developed over time, and like season one, for two and three you can pick and choose who you want or buy them all for a heavily discounted price.

I don't think you understand that business model, you spend more in bulk and you get more, you spend less on individual things and it will cost you more per item.

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

What double standards? The content SFV does have is all perfectly playable. Can't say the same for MCC.

How do you not see the collapse and contradiction in logic here? One game is missing content because it's incomplete, one game has the content which is broken making that portion of the game unplayable thus making the game incomplete.

It's a means to literally the same end, content that cannot be played... Stop rationalizing illogicality and blatant idiocy.

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@nyadc said:

No, it's structured to bring in money, that's why it has no cost to bring in players, everything is there it's just behind a paywall, there's nothing incomplete. It was $5 for individual characters so people could just buy one or two that they would actually want to use, or you just spend $20 and get them all... You forgot about that didn't you. Also it's a game that was structured to be added to and developed over time, and like season one, for two and three you can pick and choose who you want or buy them all for a heavily discounted price.

I don't think you understand that business model, you spend more in bulk and you get more, you spend less on individual things and it will cost you more per item.

I can't believe you defend that.....

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@Big_Pecks said:
@aigis said:

I find it really weird that SFV is doing what Splatoon did, but everyone praises Splatoon... Probably cause SFV is more in the System wars conflict between xbone and ps4

Or because Splatoon added that shit for free later while Capcom is obviously going to milk a few iterations for cash.

They said they werent doing the extra iterations with 5 and that the dlc could be obtained by in-game currency

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#149  Edited By NyaDC
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@nyadc said:

No, it's structured to bring in money, that's why it has no cost to bring in players, everything is there it's just behind a paywall, there's nothing incomplete. It was $5 for individual characters so people could just buy one or two that they would actually want to use, or you just spend $20 and get them all... You forgot about that didn't you. Also it's a game that was structured to be added to and developed over time, and like season one, for two and three you can pick and choose who you want or buy them all for a heavily discounted price.

I don't think you understand that business model, you spend more in bulk and you get more, you spend less on individual things and it will cost you more per item.

I can't believe you defend that.....

And what exactly is wrong with that aside from your implication that there is something wrong with absolutely no explanation attached to it?

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#150 naughtyottsel
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I can't believe this thread is still running.

Anyway tried out my first cross play match and it worked amazingly, gonna be spending hours online tomorrow.

Hell I've gonna just confirm it, this will be one of my top 5 games of this year easily.